Thanks George,

 

I think it is always fun to ride with you. I think that you can testify to the fact that we DO NOT drop new riders and that we do NOT make new riders feel bad about the fact that they may be a bit inexperienced.

 

Having said that, I also make sure that a new rider does NOT attempt a ride that may be above his level because that is really a turn off. I'd say that Leisure/Moderate rides are the place to be if one is new to biking or simply prefers an easier pace.

 

BTW, stay tuned for details about NEXT Saturday's Leisure AND Intermediate ride!!!

 

Jose

 

In a message dated 7/31/2005 1:51:39 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, ngquinn@... writes:

Jose,

    If I lived down there I would be at every ride possible. I have been in other clubs and always wondered why nobody, but a few folks, had the enthusium I had...so be it. WE don't have enough time to even begin to try to contemplate this Phenom. I get alotta miles in around here but get bored with it. This spurns me think about longer rides, like a week or so. I feel I hafta come down there and ride with y'all in the near future. I love it down there.

Say hey all.

You're a credit to your gender,

Fla George

--- In SouthFloridaRecumbentRiders@yahoogroups.com, "David K"
<davidk@m...> wrote:
> Jose, Mike and all,
> Jose, I know you mean well and are just trying to drum up
> participation, but you might want to try to lighten up a bit on the
> berating and guilt trips. You might just get a better response. Just
> a suggestion.
>
I agree with David on this one. For example today Hose berated and  and
intemedated me when I did not climb a hill fast enough for his taste.
The man is out of control I say. <G>
I may show up to the next leisure ride if we ride to Mcdonald.s and
Hose buys me lunch.
Sergio (looking for free food)

>I liked David's comments, too.

In fairness to Jose, I volunteered very late in the game to lead a leisure
ride this past Saturday and he suggested we do it the following weekend
given the short notice.  I told Jose that I was going to ride solo and that
if anyone showed up that would be fine; I'd enjoy the company.  We have
since discussed that the time of day might have been too early and decided
to push it back to 7:30 for next weekend.

If anyone wants to do a 'slow and sweaty' ride this Saturday, feel free to
join in.   We'll be on the streets and back roads of Parkland, looking at
the cows and horses, with no place to go and no hurry to get there!  It'll
be less than 20 miles and we'll probably average 10.5 miles per hour and
stop a couple of times to stretch our legs.  No one will be dropped nor
made to feel that they are bogging us down.  This ride is not about speed
it's just about getting out there.  Plus, I know this great bagel joint...

Feel free to call or drop me a note if you're thinking about joining.  I'll
give you directions.

Mike McKnight
954-755-4300 days
954-650-8022 cell
mike@...

Jose, Nan, Gene and Kathy, I bet you say this to all the newbies!
All joking aside, THANK YOU very much for the kind words and
positive support. You have rendered me nearly speechless.
Sincerely,
Mike B.


--- In SouthFloridaRecumbentRiders@yahoogroups.com, BentWheeler@A...
wrote:
> OK Guys,
>

>
> =================================================================
>
> On the Intermediate ride, five folks did 44 SOLID Intermediate
miles  (final
> speed average was 14.2 MPH) The folks who did show up (Gene, Nan,
Mike B,
> Kathy M and me) appeared to have a pretty darn good time (I may be
wrong though
> - if so, please correct me if my perception of today's ride is a
bit messed
> up).  After the ride we had brunch at Lester's, congratulated each
other on a
> wonderful ride and recognized Mike Brown as the MOST IMPROVED
RIDER I've ever
> seen and promised ourselves that we're going to turn into bike
maniacs.  Mike
> Brown has a mere 500 (in the last few months) miles in his bent
legs  and in
> this short time has achieved more than many of us ever do in 1-2
years.
> ================================================================
> Tomorrow's ride is an advanced level metric in rolling hill
country (Frost
> Proof to Lake Wales). So far it seems that only Sergio and I are
the only
> riders  but anyone who would like to experience a very DIFFERENT
ride, is welcome
> to  join us. The catch is to be at Lester's diner by 5:30 AM so
that we can get
>  to the ride start before 8 AM. Two hours of driving is needed to
climb
> little  hills but every time I did this, I thought it was worth
it! The plan is to
> ride  31 miles one way (towards Lake Wales on Alt 27) and then
ride back. The
> speed  will be about 18-19 MPH on the flats, as fast as possible
on the little
> climbs  (9-15 MPH?).
>
> Oh... and.... RICHARD VANES.... in case you're reading this, If
GOD had
> wanted to keep Bents out of the hills, he would NOT have created
SERGIO. But in
> all seriousness, I would love for you to join us and TEACH Sergio
a lesson.
> Somebody ought to and I'm not powerful enough to do just that.
>
> ==================================================================
> As far as next week is concerned, we're already planning to have
two level
> rides: A leisure and an Intermediate ride. Please stay tuned for
details and
> THANK YOU MIKE K for offering to lead another leisure ride and not
giving up on
>  our group.
>
> =================================================================
> Oh..... and I almost forgot? Would some of you like to do a late
afternoon
> 25 mile ride around Weston? If so, you may join Mike Brown and me
next
> Thursday.  We're been meeting at Lester's diner on Thursdays at 6
PM and completing
> about  25 miles in 1 1/2 hours. If this sounds like something
you'd like to do,
> give me  a call or drop us a quick email.
>
> Jose
>
>
>
>
>
> Jose A. Hernandez
>
> "Bent Cycling Means NEVER  Having To Say You're Sore"
> GetBent.Org
> Click HERE to View SFRR's  Ride Schedule

"David K" wrote:
...At this point, I would be very concerned about being dropped on
a 20 mile leisure ride....

Hi David,
    As a ride guide of many Leisure rides (can't lead from the back)
I can assure you you will not be dropped. The reason we ride a trike
is we are so slow, cannot stay up on two wheels :-)
Our ride speed is always set by the most "Leisure" rider that day.
All the "Jawing" here is well ment.

Gail and Willie

Lanterne Rouge...

Jose, Mike and all,

I'm sorry you're all so disappointed at the low turnouts for some
rides. Allow me to attempt a possible explanation for the poor
turnouts of late. Last minute announcements don't help. Neither does
calling people lazy and otherwise berating people for not showing
up. That kind of talk is more of a turn-off than a motivational
inspiration, at least for me. Scheduling is always a bitch for some
people who may have other committments, responsibilities, jobs,
families, classes, etc. Some people are just not early birds like
some others.

Before my injury and this heat, I was up to 10 miles per ride. The
last time I got sick was after a ride and I was sick on and off for
more than a month with an intestinal bug that left me dehydrated,
which wasn't a good condition to be in for riding. My doctor warned
me about heat stroke on my rides and I don't do well in heat and
humidity. Between that and my heel spur, I was sidelined for most of
three months. I was trying to build up my engine too so I'd feel
confident in joining a group ride and was looking forward to that
day. At this point, I would be very concerned about being dropped on
a 20 mile leisure ride or getting negative feedback for finally
showing up for one.

Jose, I know you mean well and are just trying to drum up
participation, but you might want to try to lighten up a bit on the
berating and guilt trips. You might just get a better response. Just
a suggestion.

Take care,
David K

Mike K.  just told me that NOBODY showed up for his Leisure ride. That is really disappointing to me because I often hear complaints about our not having slow rides. But,   when we do schedule SLOW rides, these rides are often ignored.  I'm at a lost trying to understand why anyone would join a bike club and NOT want to bike? 

     Could it only be for the prestige?

This really makes no sense to me. Perhaps someone wiser and smarter can explain this phenomenon to me.

    I guess 'bent riding is a lot like sex. Those who talk about it the most, do it the least???

At any rate, it is possible that we posted this leisure ride at the last minute and you all needed time to plan. So if you need to plan, please start planing to do a leisure ride NEXT week!   I know that in your heart YOU REALLY want to bike. You just need to figure out what  keeps you from doing what you know you ought to be doing. Is it possible that some of you are a little bit intimidated by the more experienced riders? 

     That big black Corsaero sure imtimated me! I remember when I was on my humble V-Rex and I got dropped like a bad habbit...

If so, please don't worry about them, and give our group a chance. When we say that NOBODY gets dropped, we MEAN JUST THAT. New riders should consider the slow rides first so they can get used to riding in a group and give themselves a chance to condition their bent muscles. When if comes to cycling, we all have to start somewhere and our next leisure ride can show you that YOU CAN DO IT!

 

=================================================================

 

On the Intermediate ride, five folks did 44 SOLID Intermediate miles (final speed average was 14.2 MPH) The folks who did show up (Gene, Nan, Mike B, Kathy M and me) appeared to have a pretty darn good time (I may be wrong though - if so, please correct me if my perception of today's ride is a bit messed up).

    As Sergio would say, if they wern't on an Aero, they were only faking it...

After the ride we had brunch at Lester's, congratulated each other on a wonderful ride and recognized Mike Brown as the MOST IMPROVED RIDER I've ever seen and promised ourselves that we're going to turn into bike maniacs. Mike Brown has a mere 500 (in the last few months) miles in his bent legs and in this short time has achieved more than many of us ever do in 1-2 years.

================================================================

Tomorrow's ride is an advanced level metric in rolling hill country (Frost Proof to Lake Wales). So far it seems that only Sergio and I are the only riders but anyone who would like to experience a very DIFFERENT ride, is welcome to join us. The catch is to be at Lester's diner by 5:30 AM so that we can get to the ride start before 8 AM. Two hours of driving is needed to climb little hills but every time I did this, I thought it was worth it! The plan is to ride 31 miles one way (towards Lake Wales on Alt 27) and then ride back. The speed will be about 18-19 MPH on the flats, as fast as possible on the little climbs (9-15 MPH?).

 

Oh... and.... RICHARD VANES.... in case you're reading this, If GOD had wanted to keep Bents out of the hills, he would NOT have created SERGIO. But in all seriousness, I would love for you to join us and TEACH Sergio a lesson.

    In this case I'm afraid I'm a student, not a teacher.

Somebody ought to and I'm not powerful enough to do just that.

   I wonder if Jose on a new polished Corsa could show Sergio what a rear wheel looks like??

--- In SouthFloridaRecumbentRiders@yahoogroups.com, BentWheeler@A...
wrote:
> On the Intermediate ride, five folks did 44 SOLID Intermediate miles
  (final
> speed average was 14.2 MPH) The folks who did show up (Gene, Nan,
Mike B,
> Kathy M and me) appeared to have a pretty darn good time (I may be
wrong though
> - if so, please correct me if my perception of today's ride is a bit
messed
> up).  After the ride we had brunch at Lester's, congratulated each
other on a
> wonderful ride and recognized Mike Brown as the MOST IMPROVED RIDER
I've ever
> seen and promised ourselves that we're going to turn into bike
maniacs.  Mike
> Brown has a mere 500 (in the last few months) miles in his bent legs
  and in
> this short time has achieved more than many of us ever do in 1-2  years.

That was quite a recumbent pace line seen in Weston today !  It is
great to see the group braving the heat and having a good time.

Have fun in the hills, I am toast and need a day off.

Greg

----- Original Message -----

From: BentWheeler@...

To: SouthFloridaRecumbentRiders@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2005 4:18 PM

Subject: SFRR: Leisure and Intermediate Ride Report - Today, Tomorrow and NEXT WEEK

OK Guys,

 

Mike K.  just told me that NOBODY showed up for his Leisure ride. That is really disappointing to me because I often hear complaints about our not having slow rides. But,   when we do schedule SLOW rides, these rides are often ignored.  I'm at a lost trying to understand why anyone would join a bike club and NOT want to bike? This really makes no sense to me. Perhaps someone wiser and smarter can explain this phenomenon to me.

 

At any rate, it is possible that we posted this leisure ride at the last minute and you all needed time to plan. So if you need to plan, please start planing to do a leisure ride NEXT week!   I know that in your heart YOU REALLY want to bike. You just need to figure out what  keeps you from doing what you know you ought to be doing. Is it possible that some of you are a little bit intimidated by the more experienced riders? If so, please don't worry about them, and give our group a chance. When we say that NOBODY gets dropped, we MEAN JUST THAT. New riders should consider the slow rides first so they can get used to riding in a group and give themselves a chance to condition their bent muscles. When if comes to cycling, we all have to start somewhere and our next leisure ride can show you that YOU CAN DO IT!

 

=================================================================

 

On the Intermediate ride, five folks did 44 SOLID Intermediate miles (final speed average was 14.2 MPH) The folks who did show up (Gene, Nan, Mike B, Kathy M and me) appeared to have a pretty darn good time (I may be wrong though - if so, please correct me if my perception of today's ride is a bit messed up). After the ride we had brunch at Lester's, congratulated each other on a wonderful ride and recognized Mike Brown as the MOST IMPROVED RIDER I've ever seen and promised ourselves that we're going to turn into bike maniacs. Mike Brown has a mere 500 (in the last few months) miles in his bent legs and in this short time has achieved more than many of us ever do in 1-2 years.

================================================================

Tomorrow's ride is an advanced level metric in rolling hill country (Frost Proof to Lake Wales). So far it seems that only Sergio and I are the only riders but anyone who would like to experience a very DIFFERENT ride, is welcome to join us. The catch is to be at Lester's diner by 5:30 AM so that we can get to the ride start before 8 AM. Two hours of driving is needed to climb little hills but every time I did this, I thought it was worth it! The plan is to ride 31 miles one way (towards Lake Wales on Alt 27) and then ride back. The speed will be about 18-19 MPH on the flats, as fast as possible on the little climbs (9-15 MPH?).

 

Oh... and.... RICHARD VANES.... in case you're reading this, If GOD had wanted to keep Bents out of the hills, he would NOT have created SERGIO. But in all seriousness, I would love for you to join us and TEACH Sergio a lesson. Somebody ought to and I'm not powerful enough to do just that.

 

==================================================================

As far as next week is concerned, we're already planning to have two level rides: A leisure and an Intermediate ride. Please stay tuned for details and THANK YOU MIKE K for offering to lead another leisure ride and not giving up on our group.

 

=================================================================

Oh..... and I almost forgot? Would some of you like to do a late afternoon 25 mile ride around Weston? If so, you may join Mike Brown and me next Thursday. We're been meeting at Lester's diner on Thursdays at 6 PM and completing about 25 miles in 1 1/2 hours. If this sounds like something you'd like to do, give me a call or drop us a quick email.

 

Jose

 

 

 

 

Jose A. Hernandez
"Bent Cycling Means NEVER Having To Say You're Sore"
GetBent.Org
Click HERE to View SFRR's Ride Schedule

Sergio
      If God wanted recumbents to climb hills, he would have made the world
flat.....




> come with your Aero and show me how to climb hills? I hear that if it is
> not an
> Aero zzzzzzzzz
> Sergio
>
>
>
> Check Out SFRR's Ride Schedule at http://www.GetBent.org/events.htm
> Yahoo! Groups Links

come with your Aero and show me how to climb hills? I hear that if it is not an
Aero zzzzzzzzz
Sergio

Sunday's Metric who is comming???

I don't know Jose', my Giro is so comfortable, I feel like I could
sleep and ride! See you tomorrow, and if I snore, kick me.
Mike B.

--- In SouthFloridaRecumbentRiders@yahoogroups.com, BentWheeler@A...
wrote:
> Just curious. We do have TWO rides this Saturday ( Leisure &
Intermediate)
> and one metric advanced ride.
>
> Missed the details? Go to _http://www.Getbent.org/events.htm_
> (http://www.Getbent.org/events.htm)   ?
>
> Hey NAN, if your friend Gene is doing the Intermediate ride
tomorrow?  Please
> have him meet me at 7:30 AM so we can adjust the bike!!!
>
> So... WHO.. is riding? AND who is brave enough to say they're
gonna sleep  so
> we can PICK ON YOU!!!!
>
>
> Jose A. Hernandez
>
> "Bent Cycling Means NEVER  Having To Say You're Sore"
> GetBent.Org
> Click HERE to View SFRR's  Ride Schedule