http://www.trikeshoppe.com –  (Check them out for more info)

The good folks from the Trike Shoppe will be serving FREE soft drinks, beer & snacks. They will also be distributing free store redeemable gift certificates*

* Five to twenty percent of all store and Internet sales are donated  to charities that promote education and/or rehabilitation opportunities for persons with disabilities

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/breaking-news/story/1326095.html

Sorry Jose and everyone, but for personal reasons I will be unable to make the
trip. I've canceled my reservation at the Central Hotel so there's a room open
for anyone who needs it. Hope everyone enjoys themselves and take lots of
pictures!!

--- In SouthFloridaRecumbentRiders@yahoogroups.com, Shari Bernhard
<shari.bernhard@...> wrote:

>
> This was one helluva a ride, and it felt wonderful to be able to
> complete it with a decent average, 16.5 mph, considering the
> gale-force winds we had to fight.  Sorry more of you didn't turn out.
>
> Thanks, Teabone, Carl, Larry, John, Phil and Steve, for supporting our
> club and the charities we help.
>
> Shari B.
>
>Good job Shari I had my grandson Sunday so I was at church.
Sorry could not make it.
I did ride Saturday morning 22 mile 14 mph avg and a 15 miler in the afternoon
17 mph avg and had to work my as# off. Again job well done.
Sergio

I am happy to say that I finished the full metric century (I had 64.8
miles on my 'puter) with energy to spare despite 9 of the last 15
miles into the wind.  At various times I rode with fellow 'bent riders
Ted, Carl, Larry, Phil and John.  Everyone finished in great time.

The mass start was mercifully with a cross-wind heading north, and
wound through residential Jacaranda Lakes out to Pine Island Rd, then
SR 84 where we had a marvelous tailwind out to Flamingo Rd.  South on
Flamingo to Stirling, west to Dykes and south to the rest stop at the
Apple Tree Montessori.  At that point, most of the pack, including
Larry, continued on without stopping.  I needed a pit stop and to grab
some munchies, so I pulled in.  Shortly after, a group of SBW guys I
ride with all the time arrived.  I stuck around until they were ready
to leave, and I hung with them through to the next rest stop.  This
section went south on Dykes to Bass Creek Rd in Miramar, and then west
to 178th Ave.

One of the best parts was when the pack I was riding with caught up to
Carl at the light at 178th and Pines in Pembroke Pines.  As we headed
north, Carl, in front, pulled us up to about 21 mph and kept
accelerating.  Our group wanted to hold 20-21 mph, but the two guys
behind Carl took up the challenge and stuck with him.  As I watched
from my usual place ensconced in the comfort of the paceline, Carl
kept up the speed until one by one, the roadies fell back.  It was
awesome to see him open up a can o' whoop-ass on those guys, both of
whom were younger, skinny guys on featherweight road bikes.  Such fun!

The route continued up 186th Ave, across Griffin to Bonaventure Blvd,
then South Post Rd over to Weston Regional Park for the 2nd rest stop.
  Up till now, we had been riding mostly north/south and west, so we
had either a cross-wind or tailwind and could keep a really good pace.
  I had a 19 mph avg at this point.  From here on out, we would have
couple of easterly legs, some of them long, and we were not looking
forward to that.  Several of the SBW guys I came in with were doing
the full Century - the fools! - so we parted company as we left the
park. Phil, John, Larry and Ted joined the group I was in for the home
stretch.

We were working well as a team, and holding 14-16 mph on the shorter
eastward legs, 17-18 on the north-south sections.  At Boy Scout Rd and
Orange, many in the group wanted to take a breather.  We knew we had
about 7 miles from Boy Scout to Pine Island Rd dead into the wind.  My
friend Donna and I just wanted to get it over with, so we headed out
alone.  We actually did really well.  I pulled much of the way because
I just felt great.  I could hold 13-14, but Donna seemed to fall back
at that speed (I'm not much to draft), so I'd hold 12.  After a mile
or so, I'd have her pull for a half-mile or so, so I could regain my
strength, then I'd move in front again.  We were stopped at the light
at Griffin and Nob Hill when the rest of our group caught up.  Yay!
As we started out, one guy called out that Donna had a mechanical.
Boo!  He and I turned back to see what was up - she had a flat.  The
rest of the group waited in the shopping center for several minutes,
but when another pack went past, they assumed we were in there (Hey,
geniuses!  No recumbent!) and went with them.  We got the flat changed
in about 5 minutes, and the 3 of us completed the rest of the ride
together.  On the south leg from Pine Island to Sheridan, we caught up
with another guy and feeling great, kicked it up to 24 mph for the
last 2 miles!

This was one helluva a ride, and it felt wonderful to be able to
complete it with a decent average, 16.5 mph, considering the
gale-force winds we had to fight.  Sorry more of you didn't turn out.

Thanks, Teabone, Carl, Larry, John, Phil and Steve, for supporting our
club and the charities we help.

Shari B.

~0         Recumbents Rule!
  \\=^--%
  O--O

I'm just hoping my ankle is better by the weekend because it cost me a ride
today, one that I had been looking forward to since mid last week.  Between
the store and my full time job, we get very very little time to ride;
however, because we have put three people back on cycling wheels who thought
they would never ride again, the extra work is totally worth the effort.
Trikes are for everyone; however, they really can open up many opportunities
for folks who thought their cycling days were over when they had to give up
riding their two wheeler.

-----Original Message-----
From: SouthFloridaRecumbentRiders@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:SouthFloridaRecumbentRiders@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
soflakettwiesel
Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 9:06 PM
To: SouthFloridaRecumbentRiders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: SFRR: Kettwiesel with Brushless 600 watt motor




--- In SouthFloridaRecumbentRiders@yahoogroups.com, "Steve Doroghazi"
<srdinftl@...> wrote:
>
> While I like the mid chain drive, I will readily admit that the hub
> motor concept is sweet, particularly when you recognize that it will
> be virtually silent. Have you tried it yet on hills; and, if so, how
> does the battery hold up?
Hills???
What HILLS???
It climbs the TALL 21' rise in our neighborhood real fine!
> Also, are you using LI batteries or Lead Acid? About 23+ pounds of SLA
batteries.
> The guys we ride
> with on this board fully remember how often we were dead last on group
> rides when we road the Kettwiesel tandem setup. I used to refer to it
> as my five wheel torture chamber; actually, we were just joking about
> this with Josh last weekend, clipping along at 13 to 15 MPH on our
> Greenspeed. I've often wondered if the Greenspeed Anura set up as a
> tandem would be as inefficient as the Kettwiesels because the Anura just
seems to roll much better.
> Maybe your Ketts were not set up correctly?? Perhaps next weekend, I can
get some data (heart rate versus speed) on both the ketts and the 2x
Greenspeed???
> Hey, is there a particular page on http://www.trikeshoppe.com.html
> that presents a problem for you because this definitely alarmed Cynthia.
The page
> http://www.trikeshoppe.com/Hase-Kettwiesel-Ride-Review seems the text NOT
contrasting enough with the background, FOR ME.
We picked up Gail's trike from Power on Cycling Friday afternoon. The
Withlacoochee weekend will be the first REAL test of the system. Guess you
all will now first hand how it does
:)<http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/tsmileys2/01.gif>

Willie

Hi Shari,

It was nice seeing and riding with you today on the SBW century. It was a great
ride even thought the florida mountains (wind) was very strong.  Hope to ride
with you again soon.

Carl

While I like the mid chain drive, I will readily admit that the hub motor
concept is sweet, particularly when you recognize that it will be virtually
silent.  Have you tried it yet on hills; and, if so, how does the battery
hold up?  Also, are you using LI batteries or Lead Acid?  The guys we ride
with on this board fully remember how often we were dead last on group rides
when we road the Kettwiesel tandem setup.  I used to refer to it as my five
wheel torture chamber; actually, we were just joking about this with Josh
last weekend, clipping along at 13 to 15 MPH on our Greenspeed.  I've often
wondered if the Greenspeed Anura set up as a tandem would be as inefficient
as the Kettwiesels because the Anura just seems to roll much better.

	 Hey, is there a particular page on http://www.trikeshoppe.com.html
that presents a problem for you because this definitely alarmed Cynthia.
You've just stirred my juices (at 21 MPH), to put some juice on our next
tandem.  Just being able to flip that switch once in a while would be loads
of fun, especially when Jose wants to race the disabled couple.  (JUST
MAKING SURE YOU ARE AWAKE OVER THERE JOSE.)

-----Original Message-----
From: SouthFloridaRecumbentRiders@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:SouthFloridaRecumbentRiders@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
soflakettwiesel
Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 4:11 PM
To: SouthFloridaRecumbentRiders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: SFRR: Kettwiesel with Brushless 600 watt motor




--- In SouthFloridaRecumbentRiders@yahoogroups.com, "Steve Doroghazi"
<srdinftl@...> wrote:
>
> Hey Will:
>
> I gather you have already done the installation. Let me know how this
> works on the long term because our Trike Shoppe has begun to sell hub
> driven electric bikes. While I like the concept, I'm afraid that, for
> my own trike, I would be inclined to install a mid chain drive because
> of greater efficiency which translates to smaller motor requirements
> and less battery weight. From what I have learned, Chain drive motors
biggest advantage is climbing hills. The ability to MOVE the hub motor to my
Kett quickly was a major advantage. For rides with just Gail & I, we did
fine with the Ketts in tandem. The biggest problem was on group rides. On
MOST rides, we rode alone after the first mile or so, as 10-12mph just did
not make it. With a friend on Gail's kett, keeping up with most riders was
easy. Gail will now ride in our neighborhood ALONE, knowing she can always
"motor" home if needed.
>
> Actually, before we sold our Kettwiesels, I thoroughly researched the
> issue; however, now that we are riding the Greenspeed, I'm not that
> convinced that having one is all that necessary other than as an
> expensive toy.
>
> The funny twist to all of this is that I had ordered a mid-chain
> system; but, our second weekend opening resulted in a customer flying
> in from out of town who actually purchased our Greenspeed GTT. We are
> going to try out a new to be introduced tandem from Triton. It looks
> like a GS knock-off and is priced about $3,500.00 less; it is unique
> inasmuch as it can be broken down into a single seat trike as well.
>
> If you have time, check out our website at http://www.trikeshoppe.com
> as it has been fun to create. Actually, see if you agree with my
> assessment of Kettwiesels in the review section.
   I  think the Kettwiesels are the best delta trike out there.  I can keep
up with Catrike, Trice Q&T, TerraTrikes and Recumbents USA trikes. With 32
recumbent trikes in our subdivision, very easy to compare performance
between trikes. As a date driven nerd", I have so much data on trike tires.
From the old style high pressure "Comp Pools" to my bullet proof Marathons,
I did now see any MEASURABLE difference between the tires. TRUE, as a
tandem, 5 wheels on the ground is an 66% increase in rolling resistance.
Before we bought the ketts, we did think about the Greenspeed. Size and the
inability to pedal at different cadences was the deciding factor. Our
situation is far from your, I understand that.
I have offered my Ketts to our dealer for people to test ride, as well as
many of our neighbors. The Ketts work best, for us. Looking forward to ride
with you on the Withlacoochee tail next week.
Web site looks good, but with my Old Eyes, NOT easy to read some of the text
on a yellow background. IF your market is old folks like me, ...

   Last word,
       Gail's trike, with me almost fitting on it, will do 21.1mph on a level
road. Better than I can do...

Will