I'm sure they are.  The only problem with youtube is the things I really want to
see often aren't there!!!  But as for less-titled skaters, there is usually a
wealth of things to see that never made US TV.  Also, quite liked checking out
some old gymnastics videos...
   Maureen

Patricia <verte76@...> wrote:
           Hey, I think I'll check and see if Krylova and Obsennikov are on
Youtube. They're one of my all time favorite ice dance teams.

Patricia

----- Original Message -----
From: Maureen Diffley
To: SkateFans@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 11:45 AM
Subject: [SkateFans] Ovsiannikov returns to Russia

May 30th - Allsport reports that Piseev announced that Oleg Ovsiannikov, 1998-99
world ice dance champion, 37 years old has decided to return to Russia. He has
been named head coach of synchronized skating, a mostly administrative post,
which is not his experience - notes Piseev, "but we'll help him". He went on
about how synchro is so great, but only local clubs represent Russia
internationally, etc. They also count on his expertise and advice with regard to
ice dance development.

Additionally, another Allsport article notes cut in participants for GP events
because of limiting to 2 groups of skaters so that events will be shorter. 4+4 =
maximum of 8 pair teams, 5+5= maximum of 10 dance teams and 12 singles.

Maureen

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Just happened to catch a few scenes of the mushy Disney movie, "Ice
Princess" tonight.  Gee, don't they know anything about skating at
Disney, considering they had MK as their spokeswoman for years?  The
way the two main female leads are built, especially in the upper
shelf, they would be lucky if they can land a single axel.  They're
better off going to Harvard or whatever.

don


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Kathy Godfrey wrote:

> The World University Games are back in the rotation on
> the Fox College Sports digital channels, so check your cable box listings.
> Supposedly, the free dance coverage will repeat on Fox College
> Sports Atlantic June 12th at 9:30 a.m.-noon EDT, but I wouldn't
> bet on it.
>
> Thu  May  31  "Ice Princess" (2005 movie)          ABCFamily 8-10 p.m. EDT
>               (cast includes Kwan, Boitano, and Juliana Cannarozzo)
> Tue  Jun  12  Skate Canada [Victoria, BC, 11/2-5/06]      ESPN2 9 p.m.-mid EDT
>               [repeat from 11/12/07]

Showtime FE is re-airing Bud Greenspan's documentary on the Nagano Olympics
(Nagano 98 Olympics), which features Chen Lu.  First broadcast:  Tuesday,
June 5, 12:30 p.m. to 2:30 p.m.

Hey, I think I'll check and see if Krylova and Obsennikov are on Youtube.
They're one of my all time favorite ice dance teams.

Patricia


   ----- Original Message -----
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   To: SkateFans@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 11:45 AM
   Subject: [SkateFans] Ovsiannikov returns to Russia


   May 30th - Allsport reports that Piseev announced that Oleg Ovsiannikov,
1998-99 world ice dance champion, 37 years old has decided to return to Russia.
He has been named head coach of synchronized skating, a mostly administrative
post, which is not his experience - notes Piseev, "but we'll help him". He went
on about how synchro is so great, but only local clubs represent Russia
internationally, etc. They also count on his expertise and advice with regard to
ice dance development.

   Additionally, another Allsport article notes cut in participants for GP events
because of limiting to 2 groups of skaters so that events will be shorter. 4+4 =
maximum of 8 pair teams, 5+5= maximum of 10 dance teams and 12 singles.

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Taken from Yahoo! TV for the week of Sat. 6/2/07 through Fri. 6/7/07.
All times Eastern; please doublecheck your local listings.

The World University Games are back in the rotation on
the Fox College Sports digital channels, so check your cable box listings.
Supposedly, the free dance coverage will repeat on Fox College
Sports Atlantic June 12th at 9:30 a.m.-noon EDT, but I wouldn't
bet on it.

Thu  May  31  "Ice Princess" (2005 movie)          ABCFamily 8-10 p.m. EDT
               (cast includes Kwan, Boitano, and Juliana Cannarozzo)
Tue  Jun  12  Skate Canada [Victoria, BC, 11/2-5/06]      ESPN2 9 p.m.-mid EDT
               [repeat from 11/12/07]

>>Kathy Godfrey
   kgodfrey@...

I have two "All-Event: Gold tickets" for Skate America 2007 10/25-10/28
(in Reading) that I cannot use and would like to sell.  They include
practice tickets and all competition AND exhibition tickets.  They are
located in section 104, row B, seats 5 and 6.  They're great seats that
cost me $514.  I am willing to sell them for $450. Please email me if
interested!
Clori

May 30th - Allsport reports that Piseev announced that Oleg Ovsiannikov, 1998-99
world ice dance champion, 37 years old has decided to return to Russia. He has
been named head coach of synchronized skating, a mostly administrative post,
which is not his experience - notes Piseev, "but we'll help him".  He went on
about how synchro is so great, but only local clubs represent Russia
internationally, etc. They also count on his expertise and advice with regard to
ice dance development.

   Additionally, another Allsport article notes cut in participants for GP events
because of limiting to 2 groups of skaters so that events will be shorter.  4+4
= maximum of 8 pair teams, 5+5= maximum of 10 dance teams and 12 singles.

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I've heard Zhulin sing on New Year's special with his celebrity actress skating
partner Ingeborge Dapkanaute a ballad in romantic film style and on "Good Jokes"
- basically a deep joking thing, and a jokey folk song in style of heavy metal
(along with Navka, Dapkanaute).  But a nice, deep voice in romantic style...

Candace Miller <millercy@...> wrote:

Zhulin sings? Who knew? Though I do recall a long ago interview where
he mentioned that he plays the balalaika. What sort of songs have you
heard him sing?

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> Although Zhulin seems recommitted to coaching - he's recently teamed
> up 2 Russian junior skaters, he is the one I would most like to see
> try "his abilities in cinema". He has a great singing voice, excellent
> presence, good expression, and could probably learn. I also like to
> think that if he wasn't hacking it, he would realize it and not
> embarass himself. Just need some Russian cinema that isn't about
> gangsters or highly violent to try his skills out in... There are a
> few....
>
> Ok, it's the off-season,
> Maureen


Zhulin sings?  Who knew?  Though I do recall a long ago interview where
he mentioned that he plays the balalaika.  What sort of  songs have you
heard him sing?

Candie

So I'm watching the Shear Genius finale and one of the final
challenges is to recreate Vidal Sassoon's signature cut...

The Nancy Kwan.

Immediately, I thought of our favorite skater mashup.

Michele

I was thinking they have looked way too chummy the past few seasons. To
think they used to not get along.

--- In SkateFans@yahoogroups.com, "eaennis" <eaennis@...> wrote:
>
> http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/sports/2007-05/30/content_883102.htm
>
> "China's golden skating duo, Shenxue and Zhao Hongbo, were married in
> Beijing on Monday, May 28, the Beijing Star Daily reported on
Tuesday."
>
> Beth
>

Sounds like an official, regimented program of regular steroid
administration to me.  Of course I know it's not that, but sheesh,
that's the only thing that came to mind when I read something that
sounds as Big Brother-ish or is as reminiscent of athlete-as-lab-rat
as "Athlete Performance Enhancement and Tracking."

Just called out the phrase to DH, and his quick reply was, "sounds like
steroid use to me."

Maybe they should re-think the title.  Or not, if they like the
slightly sinister sound of it.

Donna

Sportkom also reported their marriage. The "signing of paperwork" is done and
the wedding party will be next year,

   Additional news from Sportkom
   Savchenko & Szolsky are working on throw 3 axel and quad salchow.

   Fumie Suguri will compete next season and programs will be done by Zhulin:
"I'm intending to remain in the Japanese national team and compete until at
least 2010 Olympics in Vancouver. In general, I would like to compete until 40
years of age, but I don't know if I'll manage it or not.  I feel great in
Moscow, My Japanese friend who lives in moscow helps me with the language
barrier. If Aleksander Zhulin and I don't finish all our work by June 8, then
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"Fred Goss" <fgoss@...> wrote:

> In 25 words or less (use more if you need to) what is a "Performance
> Enhancement Tracking Program?"

When I saw the job description listed on the USFSA web site a couple
months ago, I was imagining that it was a purely administrative
position, but I can't think that Casey would be interested in a job
like that.  Maybe they're planning a more formal program of COP
evaluation and general competition readiness monitoring for
international competitors, the same way that Skate Canada has had some
coaches on national team staff for a while now.  Up until now,
competitors have relied on getting critiques from judges at summer
competitions or informal monitoring sessions arranged by the coach
with a visiting judge, and the advice they've gotten that way has been
been uneven, to say the least.

-Sandra the cynic

In 25 words or less (use more if you need to) what is a "Performance
Enhancement Tracking Program?"

Fred

   ----- Original Message -----
   From: eaennis
   To: SkateFans@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 8:35 AM
   Subject: [SkateFans] Kathy Casey Hired as USFS Director of Athlete Performance
Enhancement and Tracki


   http://www.usfsa.org/event_story.asp?id=38674

   "Casey will head up this new position as part of U.S. Figure Skating's
   Athlete High Performance program directed by Mitch Moyer, senior
   director of athlete high performance. In her new position, Casey will
   manage the performance enhancement tracking program of U.S. Figure
   Skating's National Team A and Team B athletes."

   Beth






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http://www.usfsa.org/event_story.asp?id=38674

"Casey will head up this new position as part of U.S. Figure Skating's
Athlete High Performance program directed by Mitch Moyer, senior
director of athlete high performance. In her new position, Casey will
manage the performance enhancement tracking program of U.S. Figure
Skating's National Team A and Team B athletes."

Beth

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/sports/2007-05/30/content_883102.htm

"China's golden skating duo, Shenxue and Zhao Hongbo, were married in
Beijing on Monday, May 28, the Beijing Star Daily reported on Tuesday."

Beth

A couple of places I frequent pointed out that the last one or two
times the Miss Universe pageant was held in Mexico, Miss USA was
booed, and that the booers usually did so when USA made the final 5/10
and Mexico didn't.  They mentioned Kenya Moore being booed the year
she won.  So who knows exactly why this year's Miss USA was booed?

Meredith

--- In SkateFans@yahoogroups.com, "Fred Goss" <fgoss@...> wrote:
>
> The coverage I read said that the booing of Miss USA was founded
> in unhappiness in Mexico over the current immigration controversies..
> not anything to do with her individually or the competition.


Fred, I heard an alternate point of view which made more sense to
me than Trump's idea, which is what you noted.

And that is . . . USA fell, yet still made the cut for the top 5,
whereas Mexico, where the pageant was held, was cut from
the top 5.  It was an issue of, "How can this be fair?  Is it
rigged?"

Makes sense to me, especially sense the Mexican crowd had been
very supportive and warm towards USA when she recovered from
the fall.  They didn't boo her then, they didn't boo her dearing
swimsuit comp.  The booing only came when she made top 5
in spite of her fall, and Mexico didn't.

Just another view.

Christine

Sorry, Dave, I hadn't read your post when I wrote the same thing.

Christine

--- In SkateFans@yahoogroups.com, Dave Thornton <davesskatefanaddress@...>
wrote:
>
> I thought they booed because she made in the Top 5 after falling, this makes
more sense.
Thanks.
>

I was on a gymnastics forum during the 06 Olympics. People were criticizing
the American audience because they were too loud. A coupel of posters mention
that gymnastics events in China and Europe were ten times worse. *shrug*\


Some people find the bells that the Dutch have annoying. When speed skating
is in the Netherlands, they seemed cute.


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In a message dated 5/29/2007 7:36:46 PM Eastern Standard Time,
bagelpuss@... writes:

I was at the Olympics last year and remember several Americans being
booed (including Sasha Cohen).  I didn't think it had anything to do
with politics, but more with bad sportsmanship.  My impression was
that the Mexican audience was booing out of cattiness.  Pageants
kind of bring out the cattiness in people.

I thought she recovered very well.  It's what commentators would
call a "good fall," meaning that she got right back up.  I thought
it showed a lot of poise.

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Sasha Cohen was in Turin as one of the American medal favorites...to my
mind she has never done or said anything particularly objectionable..so if she
was booed
it pretty much had to be only because the audience didn't like Americans. You
can call that "politics" or "bad sportsmanship" as you choose.


Fred

   ----- Original Message -----
   From: bagelpuss
   To: SkateFans@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 8:09 PM
   Subject: [SkateFans] Re: Michelle Kwan as "Olympic figure skating champion"


   I was at the Olympics last year and remember several Americans being
   booed (including Sasha Cohen). I didn't think it had anything to do
   with politics, but more with bad sportsmanship. My impression was
   that the Mexican audience was booing out of cattiness. Pageants
   kind of bring out the cattiness in people.

   I thought she recovered very well. It's what commentators would
   call a "good fall," meaning that she got right back up. I thought
   it showed a lot of poise.

   --- In SkateFans@yahoogroups.com, Gymfig@... wrote:
   >
   >
   > In a message dated 5/29/2007 5:10:55 PM Eastern Standard Time,
   > fgoss@... writes:
   >
   > The coverage I read said that the booing of Miss USA was founded
   > in unhappiness in Mexico over the current immigration
   controversies..
   >
   > So because the USA is not letting in all of Mexico's poor they
   have the
   > right to boo us??? Because the USA is will not allow a country to
   get rid of the
   > peple they don't ant to help, they have the right to boo us at an
   > international competion. The fans were cordial to the United
   States at the World Cup other
   > Olympic Games. Wester Europeans are not welcoming in Estern
   Europeans but
   > they are not booing them because of that. Jeez.
   >
   > It is funny, they were showing all of these skyscrapers and saying
   that
   > Mexico City was a modern city/ Those people in the audience were
   not poor.
   >
   >
   > This is skating and i don't want to get off topic, but I thought
   it was rude
   > unsportsman like. I remember I was watching the Grand Prix in
   Russia and the
   > fans seem nice.
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I was at the Olympics last year and remember several Americans being
booed (including Sasha Cohen).  I didn't think it had anything to do
with politics, but more with bad sportsmanship.  My impression was
that the Mexican audience was booing out of cattiness.  Pageants
kind of bring out the cattiness in people.

I thought she recovered very well.  It's what commentators would
call a "good fall," meaning that she got right back up.  I thought
it showed a lot of poise.

--- In SkateFans@yahoogroups.com, Gymfig@... wrote:
>
>
> In a message dated 5/29/2007 5:10:55 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> fgoss@... writes:
>
> The coverage I read said that the booing of Miss USA was founded
> in unhappiness in Mexico over the current immigration
controversies..
>
> So because the USA is not letting in all of Mexico's poor  they
have the
> right to boo us???  Because the USA is will not allow a country to
get rid of the
> peple they don't ant to help, they have the right to boo us at an
> international competion. The fans were cordial to the United
States at the World Cup other
> Olympic Games. Wester Europeans are not welcoming in Estern
Europeans  but
> they are not booing them because of that.   Jeez.
>
> It is funny, they were showing all of these skyscrapers and saying
that
> Mexico City was a modern city/ Those people in the audience were
not poor.
>
>
> This is skating and i don't want to get off topic, but I thought
it was rude
> unsportsman like. I remember I was watching the Grand Prix in
Russia and the
> fans seem nice.
>
>
>
>
>
>
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In a message dated 5/29/2007 5:56:18 PM Eastern Standard Time,
davesskatefanaddress@... writes:

I'll add this reminds of the World Cup where it was reported only one team's
bus was unmarked, USA, for player safety, we're not very popular.

Well, the world needs to get over that. I read some comments on the BBC
website about visas and passports and non USA citizens. Some of them have a lot
of
nerve. I hope that Chicago gets the Olympics and the US gets the World Cup
next time around. It would be great.



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In a message dated 5/29/2007 5:58:15 PM Eastern Standard Time,
davesskatefanaddress@... writes:

I don't think Fred said he thought it was right.

He didn't I was just venting.



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I don't think Fred said he thought it was right.

Gymfig@... wrote:
In a message dated 5/29/2007 5:10:55 PM Eastern Standard Time,
fgoss@... writes:

The coverage I read said that the booing of Miss USA was founded
in unhappiness in Mexico over the current immigration controversies..

So because the USA is not letting in all of Mexico's poor they have the
right to boo us??? Because the USA is will not allow a country to get rid of the
peple they don't ant to help, they have the right to boo us at an
international competion. The fans were cordial to the United States at the World
Cup other
Olympic Games. Wester Europeans are not welcoming in Estern Europeans but
they are not booing them because of that. Jeez.

It is funny, they were showing all of these skyscrapers and saying that
Mexico City was a modern city/ Those people in the audience were not poor.


This is skating and i don't want to get off topic, but I thought it was rude
unsportsman like. I remember I was watching the Grand Prix in Russia and the
fans seem nice.




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I'll add this reminds of the World Cup where it was reported only one team's bus
was unmarked, USA, for player safety, we're not very popular.

Fred Goss <fgoss@...> wrote:          The coverage I read said that the
booing of Miss USA was founded
in unhappiness in Mexico over the current immigration controversies..
not anything to do with her individually or the competition.

We (Americans) have to appreciate that we aren't popular many
places in the world at present.

Fred

----- Original Message -----
From: Gymfig@...
To: SkateFans@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 4:51 PM
Subject: Re: [SkateFans] Re: Michelle Kwan as "Olympic figure skating champion"

In a message dated 5/29/2007 9:06:44 AM Eastern Standard Time,
cgpurvisfamily@... writes:

Wow, I thought she oozed personality in the 20 minute clip I saw!
Brazil looked wooden to me. Different strokes

What I really hated was when they Booed Miss USA. That was uncalled for. When
the pageant was held in the USA I don't remember that kind of booing when M
iss USA did not wake the top 5. I was sure Miss Angola or Miss Tanzania was
going to make it. Miss Japan should have won last year. I did not like the woman
they picked this year.

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I thought they booed because she made in the Top 5 after falling, this makes
more sense. Thanks.

Fred Goss <fgoss@...> wrote:          The coverage I read said that the
booing of Miss USA was founded
in unhappiness in Mexico over the current immigration controversies..
not anything to do with her individually or the competition.

We (Americans) have to appreciate that we aren't popular many
places in the world at present.

Fred

----- Original Message -----
From: Gymfig@...
To: SkateFans@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 4:51 PM
Subject: Re: [SkateFans] Re: Michelle Kwan as "Olympic figure skating champion"

In a message dated 5/29/2007 9:06:44 AM Eastern Standard Time,
cgpurvisfamily@... writes:

Wow, I thought she oozed personality in the 20 minute clip I saw!
Brazil looked wooden to me. Different strokes

What I really hated was when they Booed Miss USA. That was uncalled for. When
the pageant was held in the USA I don't remember that kind of booing when M
iss USA did not wake the top 5. I was sure Miss Angola or Miss Tanzania was
going to make it. Miss Japan should have won last year. I did not like the woman
they picked this year.

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In a message dated 5/29/2007 5:26:40 PM Eastern Standard Time,
scmoore@... writes:

I remember that Miss Japan from last year too and I also thought she should
have won.

She was the total package. She was smart, beautiful, confident, graceful. She
spoke different languages and was working at the UN. She had it all.



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