On 4/1/06, skatfan@... <skatfan@...> wrote:
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>
> Frank,
>
> Wouldn't Brian Orser fall into this category as well?

No, Orser only won Worlds once.

--Frank



> Renee
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> In a message dated 3/31/2006 6:46:07 PM Pacific Standard Time,
> frank.downey@... writes:
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> Speaking  of abberations, that's on the ladies' side. On the men's
> side, there are  three skaters that have won more than two Worlds but
> never won the  Olympics--Emmerich Danzer, Kurt Browning, and Elvis
> Stojko. One can make  the case that the Olympics are more of an
> abberation on the men's  side.
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Frank,

Wouldn't Brian Orser fall into this category as well?

Renee

In a message dated 3/31/2006 6:46:07 PM Pacific Standard Time,
frank.downey@... writes:

Speaking  of abberations, that's on the ladies' side. On the men's
side, there are  three skaters that have won more than two Worlds but
never won the  Olympics--Emmerich Danzer, Kurt Browning, and Elvis
Stojko. One can make  the case that the Olympics are more of an
abberation on the men's  side.







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Fred Goss wrote:

  >I had a crush on Marina...I know you have read this sort of thing from
me before...after the draw ceremony at the Sorbonne in Paris at the 89
Worlds I walked into the open door of a bus because I was staring at
her...my wife still laughs about this.

Fred - you never cease to make me laugh!  Great story and thanks for
sharing!

I had a similar experience with one of my favorites after a COI.

I had a backstage pass and waited patiently for "my skater" to emerge
from the facilities.  He finally came out and I lurched to the front to
get a picture and an autograph.  I dropped my Sharpie and in bending
over to pick it up, he did too and we cracked heads!!!  Embarrassed
much?  Anyway all was cool and I got my photo and my autograph with a
note, "Thanks for the lump on my head"!

Barb

--- In SkateFans@yahoogroups.com, Bu Ar <gantaboy@...> wrote:
>
> I'm also wondering how the hell she saw him-at COI
> they were under pretty bright spotlights and the crowd
> was dark.
>
> Then again, at the cheesefests the crowds were lit up.
>
> BTW, selling food at atthleic events is a  BIG
> MONEYMAKER in the US, so I assume athletes who grew up
> competing here are used to it

Even skaters who are used to it probably don't like it much.  It
makes me think of a movie theatre audience chewing popcorn, which
they wouldn't do if seeing a live play.




>
>
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> --- privet__vsem@... wrote:
> > As for me I would never let myself chew anything at
> > the event. If I'm very hungry I can go out anytime
> > and eat as much
> > as I want to. But if it's OK in North America I just
> > take it as it is.
> >
> > Tanya.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > Bu Ar <gantaboy@...>:
> >
> > > A few years ago, at a cheesfest, the anouncer
> > quoted
> > > her as saying that she had more fans in America
> > than
> > > in Russia (which I found kind of hard to believe,
> > even
> > > as an American fan of her)
> > >
> > > I wonder if something has changed or if someone
> > just
> > > made that up for the American anouncer.
> > >
> > > --- nynormie <nynormie@...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > This portion of the interview is causing much
> > > > discussion at several
> > > > boards ...
> > > >" In my homeland I feel like a star and
> > > > I sense the support of my fans. But over
> > there...No
> > > > soul. I remember coming out on the ice in one
> > city
> > > > and seeing in front of of me a man chowing down
> > a
> > > > huge hamburger.  Performing in front of a person
> > > >like him is unpleasant. But in  America audience
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In a message dated 3/31/2006 10:02:25 PM Eastern Standard Time,
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"The
>>Typewriter" by Leroy Anderson and assumes that that is  Dinev's music -
>>deedle deedle deedle deedle deedle deedle deedle  dah, deedle deedle deedle
>>deedle deedle dah,  ping!)


An American novice skater, William Nottingham from Alaska, used this music
for his SP at Nationals this season. He's coached by Ralph and Rory  Burghart

Allen in Kentucky


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> Sharon
>
> A SkateFan Librarian
>
> Who believes the best hair in dance belonged to Marina Klimova

I had a crush on Marina...I know you have read this sort of thing from me
before...after the draw ceremony at the Sorbonne in Paris at the 89 Worlds I
walked into the open door of a bus because I was staring at her...my wife
still laughs about this.

But her hair wasnt, I thought, always her best feature. I remember at worlds
in Budapest the previous year a large swath of it was green.....and my wife
and I saying to each other, "that can't have been what they had in mind.."

Fred

>

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> On Mar 31, 2006, at 9:30 AM, Fred Goss wrote:
>
> >> I have no idea. I do know Peggy Fleming had her youngest boy in '88,
> >> but CBS held the Worlds contract that year, so Peggy would not have
> >> been on the job anyway and would not have needed a sub.
> >>
> >> Trudi
> >
> > I remember Denver Nationals in Jan 88 and Peggy showing baby pix to
> > anyone
> > who got within 20 ft of her...So her younger son must be 18 now, boy
> > time
> > goes by.
>
> Not that a year is a big deal but are you sure you aren't remembering
> Baltimore in '89? Maybe I'm misremembering but from what I recall, both
> Peggy and Dorothy Hamill gave birth on the same day in 1988: September
> 19.
>
> Trudi
>
> Someone with a better memory than you or I will have to solve this
mini-mystery..I would have said I was sure it was at a pairs practice in
Denver where I saw Peggy showing baby pix to all and sundry..but as I grow
older I have learned (and this group has helped me) that my memory, in which
I took some pride, can be unreliable...I was at pairs practices in Baltimore
so Trudi could certainly be right.

Fred
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On 3/31/06, Ben Currie <ncurrie40@...> wrote:
>
> Since 1972 the Ladies title at worlds has changed hands more times
> than the mens title. The singles titles have changed hands more than
> the Pair title, and the Pair title has changed hands more than the
> Dance title.
>
> Put another way, since 1972 there have been more ladies champs,
> fewer men have won worlds, fewer still Pairs have won it, and even
> less dance couples have captured it.
>
> Because it has been consistently  more likely that someone new would
> win ladies or that someone who wasn't last years' champ would win
> it, it has correspondingly always been more likely (compared to the
> other disciplines) that someone new would win the Olympics.
>
> More likely ... but it has not always proved true in the end:
>
> Men without a prior title who won Olympics: Curry, Cousins,
> Petrenko, Urmanov, Kulik .. 5 of 10 from '72 to '06
>
> Hamill, Witt (in '84), Hughes  ... 3 of 10

If you look at it another way, though, it makes lots of sense.

Think of it this way: how many three-year cycles between Olympics has
the ladies' title not been won by the same skater? Lots of 'em. In
fact, there's been a number of years that the ladies' title has been
won by *three* different skaters, including  the last three years:
Kwan-Arakawa-Slutskaya.  Leading up to 98 it was Chen-Kwan-Lipinski.
Leading up to 92 it was Ito-Trenary-Yamaguchi. And so on.

What that does, in effect, is increase the odds that a female Olympic
champion will have previously won a Worlds--because more of them in
the field *have*.

The abberation, really, is Kwan. Speaking only of ladies's singles
here--since figure skating became a regular part of the Olympics,
there have been a number of ladies that have won one or two Worlds
that never won the Olympics. Kwan's the *only* one to win *more* than
two Worlds and never win the Olympics.

Speaking of abberations, that's on the ladies' side. On the men's
side, there are three skaters that have won more than two Worlds but
never won the Olympics--Emmerich Danzer, Kurt Browning, and Elvis
Stojko. One can make the case that the Olympics are more of an
abberation on the men's side.

--Frank

I'm also wondering how the hell she saw him-at COI
they were under pretty bright spotlights and the crowd
was dark.

Then again, at the cheesefests the crowds were lit up.

BTW, selling food at atthleic events is a  BIG
MONEYMAKER in the US, so I assume athletes who grew up
competing here are used to it



--- privet__vsem@... wrote:
> As for me I would never let myself chew anything at
> the event. If I'm very hungry I can go out anytime
> and eat as much
> as I want to. But if it's OK in North America I just
> take it as it is.
>
> Tanya.
>
>
>
>
>
> > Bu Ar <gantaboy@...>:
>
> > A few years ago, at a cheesfest, the anouncer
> quoted
> > her as saying that she had more fans in America
> than
> > in Russia (which I found kind of hard to believe,
> even
> > as an American fan of her)
> >
> > I wonder if something has changed or if someone
> just
> > made that up for the American anouncer.
> >
> > --- nynormie <nynormie@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > This portion of the interview is causing much
> > > discussion at several
> > > boards ...
> > >" In my homeland I feel like a star and
> > > I sense the support of my fans. But over
> there...No
> > > soul. I remember coming out on the ice in one
> city
> > > and seeing in front of of me a man chowing down
> a
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I think she wasn't talking about where she is being loved more: in Russia or in
the US. She just stated that figure
skating lovers are different in different countries with different culture. And
I guess she surely didn't mean to
offend anyone.
I've attended different shows and competitions here in Moscow and - that's true
- I didn't see people eating something
while skaters' performances at shows and saw very few spectators eating while
competitions (which last longer).
As for me I would never let myself chew anything at the event. If I'm very
hungry I can go out anytime and eat as much
as I want to. But if it's OK in North America I just take it as it is. No
problem.
BTW there's something that I really HATE in my native Russian audience. It is
leaving the rink before the medal
ceremony. grrrrrr!



Tanya.





> Bu Ar <gantaboy@...>:

> A few years ago, at a cheesfest, the anouncer quoted
> her as saying that she had more fans in America than
> in Russia (which I found kind of hard to believe, even
> as an American fan of her)
>
> I wonder if something has changed or if someone just
> made that up for the American anouncer.
>
> --- nynormie <nynormie@...> wrote:
> >
> > This portion of the interview is causing much
> > discussion at several
> > boards ...
> >" In my homeland I feel like a star and
> > I sense the support of my fans. But over there...No
> > soul. I remember coming out on the ice in one city
> > and seeing in front of of me a man chowing down a
> > huge hamburger.  Performing in front of a person
> >like him is unpleasant. But in  America audience
> >members like that are not out the ordinary.
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I'm not sure Irina is the model for Kimmie; Kimmie seems to have a
cooler, less bubbly personality but already better stroking. [huge
snip] ... Kimmie has the goods for staying power. IMHO.
> Naomi


Kimberly has better stroking than irina ... ALREADY?!?  ... Honey,
there are 400 Intermediate ladies in North America who you can say
that about <GGGGG>

Heck, there are 65 year old women at adult nationals who do better
back cross-overs ...

Heck Naomi, it would take no more than 2-3 years of lessons, and
you'd be able to do back cross-overs sans the invisible tractor
dragging behind you.

Ben Currie

In a message dated 3/31/2006 7:59:54 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
sdunscombe@... writes:

As  Olympics and Worlds drift toward the record books in the leaky COP
rowboat,  how about one more mention of.

hair?



We've riffed  on Peggy and Kimmie's locks, so may I say a few words about
Albena &  Maxim's matching coiffures?

First I'd formally like to go on record as  a fan of Denkova and Staviyski,
they won me over a few years back with  their creative Baroque program.
Love, love, loved that  one.



But watching them this year, I found myself mumbling, not  unlike Ulysses
Everett McGill, "thare hair."  It's not enough that  their heights are so
close, and they both had scarf-like tendrils on their  costumes but the same
hair stylist too? Ick.  Thank goodness Albena  wore stockings or I would have
been hard pressed to determine who was  partnering whom what with their locks
covering their faces and intertwined  costuming.



I sure wish Maxim had been a "Dapper Dan Man," then  I could have paid more
attention to his  feet.



Sharon

A SkateFan Librarian

Who believes  the best hair in dance belonged to Marina Klimova



I think they're trying to show off their speed with the matching flowing
hair and the "scarf-like" pieces attached to their costumes, especially  his.
This is why I think Tracy Wilson said, "Dick, it's their costuming  that I have
a problem with."  Me too.  Their hair is actually  distracting, and their fast
enough that they don't need that junk.

oleg



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As Olympics and Worlds drift toward the record books in the leaky COP
rowboat, how about one more mention of.

hair?



We've riffed on Peggy and Kimmie's locks, so may I say a few words about
Albena & Maxim's matching coiffures?

First I'd formally like to go on record as a fan of Denkova and Staviyski,
they won me over a few years back with their creative Baroque program.
Love, love, loved that one.



But watching them this year, I found myself mumbling, not unlike Ulysses
Everett McGill, "thare hair."  It's not enough that their heights are so
close, and they both had scarf-like tendrils on their costumes but the same
hair stylist too? Ick.  Thank goodness Albena wore stockings or I would have
been hard pressed to determine who was partnering whom what with their locks
covering their faces and intertwined costuming.



I sure wish Maxim had been a "Dapper Dan Man," then I could have paid more
attention to his feet.



Sharon

A SkateFan Librarian

Who believes the best hair in dance belonged to Marina Klimova



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At 07:07 PM 3/31/2006, Bu Ar wrote:
>Did Yags do any December cheesefests?

He won the Japan Open in both 2000 and 2001;
both of those were in the first week of January.

  >>Kathy Godfrey
    kgodfrey@...

--- In SkateFans@yahoogroups.com, lbo3@... wrote:
>
> The fact that neither Kwan nor Slutskaya could pull off an Olympic
win, regardless of their many other accomplishments and joint
dominance of the sport for a decade, just serves to point out what
an aberrant competition the Olympics is.   Exciting to be sure.  But
aberrant ... which is probably in part why it IS exciting.
>      janet

Since 1972 the Ladies title at worlds has changed hands more times
than the mens title. The singles titles have changed hands more than
the Pair title, and the Pair title has changed hands more than the
Dance title.

Put another way, since 1972 there have been more ladies champs,
fewer men have won worlds, fewer still Pairs have won it, and even
less dance couples have captured it.

Because it has been consistently  more likely that someone new would
win ladies or that someone who wasn't last years' champ would win
it, it has correspondingly always been more likely (compared to the
other disciplines) that someone new would win the Olympics.

More likely ... but it has not always proved true in the end:

Men without a prior title who won Olympics: Curry, Cousins,
Petrenko, Urmanov, Kulik .. 5 of 10 from '72 to '06

Hamill, Witt (in '84), Hughes  ... 3 of 10

Kazakova ('98)   .... 1 of 10

Gritschuk ('94)  ... 1 of 9


I'd say that where 29 of the 39 Olympic Champions from '72 to '06
held at least one prior world title means that the Olympics are not
an aberrant event.

Ben Currie

A few years ago, at a cheesfest, the anouncer quoted
her as saying that she had more fans in America than
in Russia (which I found kind of hard to believe, even
as an American fan of her)

I wonder if something has changed or if someone just
made that up for the American anouncer.

--- nynormie <nynormie@...> wrote:
>
> This portion of the interview is causing much
> discussion at several
> boards ...
>" In my homeland I feel like a star and
> I sense the support of my fans. But over there...No
> soul. I remember coming out on the ice in one city
> and seeing in front of of me a man chowing down a
> huge hamburger.  Performing in front of a person
>like him is unpleasant. But in  America audience
>members like that are not out the ordinary.


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On Mar 31, 2006, at 9:43 AM, asolaw wrote:
>
> I believe the first live Broadcast of a Worlds in the US was in 1987
> when the Worlds were in Cincinnati.  CBC was the broadcaster, and
> they showed the Ladies free skate live on a Saturday night.  Every
> other discipline not shown until a week later.
>
> Bruce

Ah, yes. You are right. I unfortunately missed that, because I was
living in Rochester, New York at the time, and the local affiliate
decided to chack CBS's live coverage and show it that Sunday night
after the late news instead.

I was so angry.

Trudi

On Mar 31, 2006, at 9:30 AM, Fred Goss wrote:

>> I have no idea. I do know Peggy Fleming had her youngest boy in '88,
>> but CBS held the Worlds contract that year, so Peggy would not have
>> been on the job anyway and would not have needed a sub.
>>
>> Trudi
>
> I remember Denver Nationals in Jan 88 and Peggy showing baby pix to
> anyone
> who got within 20 ft of her...So her younger son must be 18 now, boy
> time
> goes by.

Not that a year is a big deal but are you sure you aren't remembering
Baltimore in '89? Maybe I'm misremembering but from what I recall, both
Peggy and Dorothy Hamill gave birth on the same day in 1988: September
19.

Trudi

Did Yags do any December cheesefests? At the World
Team Challenge his performance struck me as
underwhelming, though he still got charisma. OTOH he
wasn't looking as good as he used to; still pretty
damned handsome but...

--- skatfan@... wrote:
> Japanese Skating Federation announces  Pro-Am
> competition  2006 JAPAN OPEN
> Scheduled to appear are:...Alexi Yagudin  (RUS); and
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At 06:19 PM 3/31/2006, dfraser@... wrote:
>Something Pauwels?
>
>Dave

Yes, Katrien Pauwels, who finished 15th.

  >>Kathy Godfrey
    kgodfrey@...


>On 31 Mar 2006 at 18:09, Margaret Burwell wrote:
>
>
> > Talk about a memory for trivia.  I remember that in 1984, the Belgian
> > competitor in the Ladies event used [The Typewriter] for her short
> program.
> > She wore a navy blue dress with a white Peter Pan collar and white
> > gloves.  Now why can I remember that and not her name?
> >
> > Marg

http://select.nytimes.com/preview/2006/04/02/realestate/1125003172249.html

It'll be up free later in the week, I think.

>  As her business grew, she discovered that she had a talent for
>motivating others and eventually turned to coaching full time. "My
>gift is the ability to hear all that someone is not saying and bring
>that to them as a mirror - a caused epiphany," she said.
>
>Ms. Spatafora said she learned about the power of good coaching
>growing up as a competitive ice skater. "As talented as I was, a
>clear coach could make profound differences," she said.

dej


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--- In SkateFans@yahoogroups.com, "Margaret Burwell" <burwellm@...> wrote:
> Talk about a memory for trivia.  I remember that in 1984, the Belgian
> competitor in the Ladies event used this music for her short
program.  She > wore a navy blue dress with a white Peter Pan collar
and white gloves.  Now > why can I remember that and not her name?

According to Skatabase, the Belgian lady at 1984 Worlds was Katrien
Pauwels. Does that ring a (typewriter) bell?

Something Pauwels?

Dave

On 31 Mar 2006 at 18:09, Margaret Burwell wrote:

> >   Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 19:22:07 -0500
> >   From: Kathy Godfrey <kgodfrey@...>
> > Subject: Re: Random worlds thought (men's short)
> >
> > At 07:05 PM 3/21/2006, Bubbles wrote:
> >>Bubbles (who has to wait for the telecast, but who remembers "The
> >>Typewriter" by Leroy Anderson and assumes that that is Dinev's music
> >>- deedle deedle deedle deedle deedle deedle deedle dah, deedle
> >>deedle deedle deedle deedle dah, ping!)
> >
> > Yes, it's the Leroy Anderson piece, but not the orchestration I'm
> > familiar with.
> >
> > >>Kathy, who always thought this would make good short program
> > >>music, Godfrey
>
> Talk about a memory for trivia.  I remember that in 1984, the Belgian
> competitor in the Ladies event used this music for her short program.
> She wore a navy blue dress with a white Peter Pan collar and white
> gloves.  Now why can I remember that and not her name?
>
> Marg
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>   Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 19:22:07 -0500
>   From: Kathy Godfrey <kgodfrey@...>
> Subject: Re: Random worlds thought (men's short)
>
> At 07:05 PM 3/21/2006, Bubbles wrote:
>>Bubbles (who has to wait for the telecast, but who remembers "The
>>Typewriter" by Leroy Anderson and assumes that that is Dinev's music -
>>deedle deedle deedle deedle deedle deedle deedle dah, deedle deedle deedle
>>deedle deedle dah, ping!)
>
> Yes, it's the Leroy Anderson piece, but not the orchestration I'm
> familiar with.
>
> >>Kathy, who always thought this would make good short program music,
> >>Godfrey

Talk about a memory for trivia.  I remember that in 1984, the Belgian
competitor in the Ladies event used this music for her short program.  She
wore a navy blue dress with a white Peter Pan collar and white gloves.  Now
why can I remember that and not her name?

Marg

Good Grief!

That e-mail was posted shortly after the ladies event at the Olys.  I
have NO IDEA why it is just showing up now!

As to the question about eligibility - I had no idea then really and no
idea now.  Was just musing.

Sorry folks!!!

Barb
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olegbb@... wrote:

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>In a message dated 3/31/2006 2:54:40 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>golfisme@... writes:
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>Irina  especially who has been thru so much
>and and so many success.  I  truly hope that she can now move on to have
>a happy family life and be  content.
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>Has she made it clear that she's retiring from eligible comps.?
>
>oleg
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--- In SkateFans@yahoogroups.com, "Fred Goss" <ghgang@...> wrote:
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> >
> > Re: looks in skating. Kiira did finish top ten at Worlds, IIRC,
but
> > I suspect invitations to pro-ams might take her looks into
> > consideration.
> >
> > Naomi
> >
> You got it Naomi...I suspect there is a "Fred" hidden somewhere in
the
> JSF...I mean "OK, we've invited our own top lady skaters and the US
and Cdn
> Stars...now who from all the rest of the skaters in the world
should I
> pick... I know, Kiira K.& Sarah.. M."
>
> Works for me.


> Fred

Well Sarah could now be considered one of the top 6 skaters in the
world, and she did beat Joannie at Worlds on Joannie's home turf. No
one is questioning the Canadian's invite. Sarah has busted her butt
for every placement this year. I'd say she's more than earned her
invite based on her skating and not her looks. Korpi, on the other
hand...

On 31 Mar 2006 19:36:16 -0000 SkateFans@yahoogroups.com wrote:
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>    Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 11:57:13 EST
>    From: skatfan@...
> Subject: Kimmie puts it on the line in Japan
>
> Hi all,
>
> So, what do folks think about this?  I'm impressed that the young-uns  will
> be competing this spring, and amused that Arakawa is taking the exhibition
> route.

I wouldn't be surprised if Shizuka is skating an exhibition because she hasn't
had time to train for any kind of competition since the Olympics.

Meredith

"When in doubt grab your foot and pull it over your head." - Dick Button

> And Fred, there are Freds everywhere in the world helping pretty
> girls get ahead. :)
>
> Naomi
>
Well aimed, and I'll admit to it.  But, as I understand it, except for
events like swimming where the only thing that matters is if you get to the
wall .01 ahead of the girl in the next lane, there are sociological studies
up to my belly-button documenting that for women, being attractive is a
measureable advantage in just about every activity of life..although some
will apparently say, "but it doesnt count in figure skating."

Fred
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--- In SkateFans@yahoogroups.com, "naomipaiss" <Naomi@...> wrote:
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> --- In SkateFans@yahoogroups.com, Virginia Blalock <virginia@>
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> > She's throwing out the first pitch at the Phillies opener:
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> > http://www.noticias.info/asp/aspComunicados.asp?nid=160898&src=0
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> Now that gladdens my always-rooted-in-Philly heart. Hope the fans
> don't boo her if she misses; Philly fans once booed Santa Claus at
an
> Eagles game. :)
>
> Naomi
>
Note that this was posted yesterday! Another yahoogroups hiccup.

And Fred, there are Freds everywhere in the world helping pretty
girls get ahead. :)

Naomi

>>>Peggy sounds too cool.  I wonder if her son's marriage is still
going.  Most marriages that start out like that usually end.  His
wife's name was something different too.  Malibu?  Catalina?  I
forget.  --Liam <<<

Without having access to my copy of her autobiography, I think her
daughter-in-law's name is Jamaica.

Jocelyn