> C&S in 4th place???
> I'm in total shock!!!
> How could this happend?
> They must have had a major error to get 4.9 marks. It didn't happend
> to them in 3 years I guess.
> Or maybe it's the new system? when judges marks are hidden, they
> can't be bribed...
Or maybe it's that C&S will become the poster children of the new
scoring system to "prove" that the new system is perfect everything is
fair.... Meanwhile, teams like G&G and N&K will be pushed up the
ranks ahead of teams like B&K, and the ISU will be able to point to
C&S and claim fairness. I think ice dance, all of this secrecy, and
Cinquanta have driven me insane with paranoia, but it strikes me as
almost too convenient for the media's favorite punching bags to get
dumped all of a sudden by the new scoring system.
Btw, it looks like the "secret computer" has already had some
problems. When the final results were initially published,
Fraser/Lukanin were ahead of Gregory/Petukov. Now, the reverse is
true. It couldn't have been an OBO flip-flop because these were the
final results. Were the wrong judges selected or something?
Some space 1 Elena GRUSHINA / Ruslan GONCHAROV UKR 2 Tatiana NAVKA / Roman KOSTOMAROV RUS 3 Tanith BELBIN / Benjamin AGOSTO USA 4 Galit CHAIT / Sergei...
S P O I L E R S P A C E Viriginia post the link, but since things are so different than what we're used to, I pasted what we now get from IceCalc. . . We get 2...
... C&S in 4th place??? I'm in total shock!!! How could this happend? They must have had a major error to get 4.9 marks. It didn't happend to them in 3 years I...
... Or maybe it's that C&S will become the poster children of the new scoring system to "prove" that the new system is perfect everything is fair.......
... happend ... is ... I'll wait for reports on this section... it looks from the marks that there was division among the judges for 2-4 places... with the new...
... that ... You really believe that? I bet that Mr. Chait, and anyone with friends in ISU establishment, can get this inside knowledge if he wants to. Do you...
At the risk of looking/sounding like an idiot....and too lazy to try to find the answers elsewhere... If they have a panel of 14 judges, they use the scores of...
... Or will the skaters have all different 9 judges? ... component of the competition? (I know the panel of judges are probably different from the SP/LP, CD,...
... And some judges will probably figure out they are being used if they have given unusually low or high marks and see them on the scoreboard. If a judge sees...
... That will be problematic, won't it? Some skater with the best results overall may finish behind someone whose overall marks are lower but by the luck of...
... That can happen but how would we know? Since they aren't showing the presentation mark that goes with the tech mark but just all the tech marks in...
... Or will the skaters have all different 9 judges? ... component of the competition? (I know the panel of judges are probably different from the SP/LP, CD,...
... This is a pretty good example of the new system at work...looking at the strings of marks for G/G and N/K, it's pretty clear G/G will be #1 no matter how...
I enjoy seeing C/S dumped to 4th as much as anyone but if you look at the marks, this appears to be an anomaly of the "ignore half the panel" scoring system....
Susan
smc413@...
Oct 26, 2002 12:33 am
Susan <smc413@...> wrote: I think when they evaluate this system, one of the things the ISU should be doing is seeing how the outcome compares to the...
... ISU should ... old system ... Exactly. The ISU may claim the new system was a success following the completion of Skate America, but they have no way of...
... They also need to be comparing the result of the 7 selected judges with the result that would have been obtained using the marks of the entire panel. It...
Susan
smc413@...
Oct 26, 2002 1:05 am
In a message dated 10/24/02 09:38:40 PM Mountain Standard Time, ... Well, in the CD, I believe that Grushina/Goncharov deserved the first place ..... The...
In a message dated 10/24/02 08:06:26 PM Mountain Standard Time, ... Piche/Denis were slow and underpowered in the CD, and their pattern was noticeably smaller...
In a message dated 10/29/2002 8:08:14 AM Pacific Standard Time, lbo3@... ... Before they were introduced to skate (both the OD and the FD, we didn't see ...
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