Thanks for the information.

  ghillie8@... wrote:Hi, Mark, this is another Mark from California. I
know the rules say the official will say "up" or "down" for the rep, but at all
the World Championships I've been in, as long as your reps are done properly at
a regular pace (all the way up,
all the way down) there shouldn't be any problem. With regard to videotapes, I
know a local Hawaii TV station did a segment on the first World Championships in
Honolulu in 1995. Perhaps Ed Bugarin has a copy of that tape. I may have one as
well, so I'll look around for it.

Have a STREND day,

Mark Lundin

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Hi, Mark, this is another Mark from California. I know the rules say the
official will say "up" or "down" for the rep, but at all the World Championships
I've been in, as long as your reps are done properly at a regular pace (all the
way up,
all the way down) there shouldn't be any problem. With regard to videotapes, I
know a local Hawaii TV station did a segment on the first World Championships in
Honolulu in 1995. Perhaps Ed Bugarin has a copy of that tape. I may have one as
well, so I'll look around for it.

Have a STREND day,

Mark Lundin

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Hey Matt,

All your points are right on.  Obviously, who is the "fittest" depends on the
context of what is being measured.  I know that even when I get in great shape
for STREND, if I, heaven forbid, get into a pool and start swimming laps, I am
in serious trouble after about  100 yards.  It is not that I am out of shape, I
am just out of shape for swimming.  I think for STREND you have to go back to
what Ed was originally trying to measure in designing STREND, and that was the
body type that graduated towards the special military operations groups with
which Ed served. The ability to be mobile (the run) and still have significant
upper body strength (the 5 lifts) in order to carry equipment, move up and down
ropes, and the other special maneuvers that us civilian types can only dream
about is an important part of these operations, and I think that Ed's intent was
to design a program that would measure that ability.  The real challenge was
design an event that was workable and would appeal to a variety of athletes. 
Like almost every other sport, some body types are better at it then others. 
Not very surprising.

The component of STREND that I really like is that it trains you mentally to go
and perform an exercise when you are really tired.  It is not that hard to do a
good set of dips, but to do a set of dips when your arms are worn out from the
other exercises is a different story.  Likewise to start the run when you are
drained from the lifts is hard for everyone, those who are natural runners and
those who are not.  But the important lesson for everyone is that if you keep at
it, your body will adjust and the run will get easier as you move along.  I am
convinced that anyone that consistently does a STREND workout will see
remarkable improvement in their strength and conditioning.  I was in good shape
when I started, but I saw good improvement in my overall strength and
conditioning after a year of consistent STREND workouts.  Tom Groves, my workout
buddy who is almost 54, saw the same improvement and, as we have noted, he will
be one of the top competitors at Arnold's Pump and Run on Sunday in Columbus. 
AS far as overall conditioning goes, I will point out that Tom G. and Tom Clark
(and you would too, Matt!) will perform at the top of their age groups as
compared to a lot of other good athletes.  That says a lot for STREND!

Have a good weekend.

JC



----- Original Message -----
From: Matt Bogdanowicz
Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 6:31 PM
To: STREND@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [STREND] Re: Digest Number 271

Thanks John,


This should certainly help.

It is still a decision of the individual on how much they can improve in
each area.
Remember if in theory you were able to do 3:00 at each station, with
basically no rest, cardiovascular-ly you are hurting, because you get
almost no rest before the run. Of course someone with 448 reps, would only
need to make the minimum run time to win.   What would happen I wonder if
you decided to really improve your rep total, I bet you would have less
time and energy to improve your 3 mile run time.  The mystery of STREND
remains how do I best improve my overall potential in the upper body
disciplines and the run-(cardio)?
That is why I believe someone from a running background will always have an
advantage, they should be light to begin with and have an ability to handle
higher reps, it is just a matter of working on overall muscular endurance.
Here is a question:  How do you come up with a formula to best determine
who had the best rep to run ratio/or highest totals in both.   Is someone
who completes 220 reps and runs 22:00 necessarily  fitter than someone
doing 175 and running 17:30?
STREND assumes one factor only, and that is run time divided into
reps.  Who is to say that 45 more reps is better than a 3 mile run time
that is superior by 4:30? (Those 45 reps were worth 6 seconds a piece when
comparing performances by the way)
   I guarantee that it probably is more impressive to have a superior run
time and pretty high reps.  But then we are back to the elusive question of
what it means to be the "fittest"
perspiring minds want to know!



At 03:01 PM 2/28/2003 -0800, you wrote:
>jc
>
>Your formula works perfectly!
>
>Thanks for sharing.
>
>
>--- JOHN R CARMONY <jcar75@...> wrote:
> >
> > Geeez Matt, You do have too much time on your hands!
> >
> > How about this for figuring the rep to run time
> > effect:
> >
> > Reps=RP
> > Run Time=RT
> > Run Time 2=RT2
> > Strend Score=ST (stays same for calculation)
> > Time equivalent of one rep=T
> >
> > RP/RT=ST , (RP+1)/ST=RT2 ,  RT2-RT=T
> >
> > Now anybody can figure it out.  I have found that
> > after a couple of years my reps and run times have
> > flattened out.  For me, I generally do about 130
> > reps and 18.5 minutes on the run.
> >
> > 130/18.5=7.027 ,  (130+1)/7.027=18.642 , 18.642-18.5
> > = .142 , (.142 min = 8.52 secs)
> >
> > So for me, one rep = about 8.5 secs.
> >
> > jc
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: skate_94538
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 7:50 PM
> > To: STREND@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [STREND] Re: Digest Number 271
> >
> > Larry, 140 sounds about right; I think I will shoot
> > for that as well,
> > we have similar builds.
> > Would you say that doing more reps might make one a
> > bit more tired
> > for the run?
> >
> > Comments regarding the lowering of run time or the
> > increase in rep
> > total:
> > (Some one feel free to explain it to me I just can't
> > figure it
> > out!
> > But I am trying.  This is more of a scratch sheet of
> > my notes, please
> > feel free to reply back, I am sure there is more to
> > it)
> >
> >
> > Now, it was said that a rep is equal to 4 seconds on
> > the run time.  I
> > thought about that for a while and did some
> > calculations, only to
> > find that is not always true, and it matters who you
> > are comparing
> > your total score to, and if it is just your own
> > score you are dealing
> > with.  It is complicated but a rep can be worth
> > different values.
> > Let's say you can really rack up the rep total and
> > you score:
> > 214
> > total, and run 21.4
> > Your STREND factor is 10.
> > Now, Competitor B does 175 reps, but runs 17.49 to
> > just beat you out
> > with a 10.0057  Now if competitor A did two more
> > reps, (216)  he
> > would end up with 10.093. Or he could run 9 seconds
> > faster
> > 214/21.25=  10.0705 and that would win to, so his
> > reps are worth 4.5
> > seconds a piece.
> > (turns out the more reps you do the less seconds on
> > the run time they
> > are worth)
> >
> >    Athlete A scores 84 reps and runs 25 minutes
> > =  3.36
> >
> > Athlete B scores 52 reps and runs 15.475+ 3.360259
> >
> >
> > Athlete A has to score 33 reps (85) to beat athlete
> > B.
> >
> >
> > If Athlete B scores 52 reps and runs  18 minutes he
> > scores- 2.8888
> > but by running 2 min and 31.5 seconds faster he
> > would of course win.
> > His reduction in run time was 151.5 seconds.    To
> > score 3.360259
> > with a run time of 18 minutes he would need to score
> > at least another
> > 8 repetitions.
> > I would agree it is much easier to increase rep
> > total.  But again it
> > depends on the total reps we are talking about.  The
> > more reps you
> > score the less room for improvement.
> > Each rep for Athlete B:   151.5/8  = 18.9375 seconds
> > for his own
> > score right?
> >
> > Example:
> >
> > A:  90 reps
> > B:  60 reps
> > A's run time is 30 minutes
> > B's run time is 20 minutes
> > Score= 3.0
> > 10:00 in run time separate A from B
> > and a 30 rep difference.
> > If Athlete A could run 10:00 faster he would score:
> >  4.5 ( or score
> > 45 more reps) 600/45= 13.33 seconds per rep (correct
> > me if I am wrong)
> > And if athlete B could attain 30 more reps he would
> > do the same.  30
> > reps saves him 10:00 of running, how do you
> > calculate the equivalent
> > rep to running time ratio on that?  Is it 20
> > seconds?
> > A:  By running 600 seconds faster he scores 50%
> > better
> > B :  By improving 50% in the rep category he equals
> > athlete A
> >
> >
> > Lets compare similar run times:
> > A: runs 20.5
> > B: runs 20.5
> > C: runs 20.5
> >
> > REP totals:
> > A:  240
> > B:  300
> > C:  180
> > Factors:
> > A:  11.7073
> > B:  14.63414
> > C:  8.7804
> >
> > IF A wants to beat B he/she has to perform at least
> > 61 more reps
> > If C wants to beat  A he/she has to perform at least
> > 61 more reps
> > And if C wants to beat B he/she has to perform at
> > least 121 more reps.
> >
> > Or A can run 4:06 Faster
> > C can run 8:12 seconds faster (not Possible)
> > And for C to beat A he would have to run 5:08
> > seconds faster. (Pretty
> > tough to do)
> >
> > A's  reps are worth 246/61 = 4.032787 seconds
> > C to Beat A 492/61= 8.0655 seconds
> > And for C to beat A 308/61=   5.049181 seconds per
> >
> > I think it is easier just to look at your own score
> > and make
> > improvements there.
> > If someone is consistently at 7 on the STREND
> > FACTOR, I could look at
> > a hundred different combinations to get that 7, but
> > lets take two I
> > guess.
> >
> > 190/7  = 27.14285 run time.
> > 120/7  = 17.1428 run time.
> >
> > Is it easier for the first to increase his rep total
> > or decrease his
> > run time?  I would say the run time but just the
> > opposite for the guy
> > running 17 minutes
> >
> > Now how would they go about scoring a 7.5?
> > The first guy needs to run 1:48 faster
> > And the second guy needs to improve by only 9 reps.
> >
> > The first guy would have to increase by over 13 reps
> > if he did not
> > want to increase his run time, again the more reps
> > you do the less
> > room for improvement, and I think you would be more
> > cardiovascularly
> > tired.
> >
> > So who is to say exactly what is easier?
> > I think it depends on the individual, their rep
> > total and overall
> > score, their run time and who they are competing
> > against.   I
> > don't
> > know maybe I am wrong. It is a bit confusing can
> > anyone come up with
> > an Excel spread sheet or something?
> >
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Thanks John,


This should certainly help.

It is still a decision of the individual on how much they can improve in
each area.
Remember if in theory you were able to do 3:00 at each station, with
basically no rest, cardiovascular-ly you are hurting, because you get
almost no rest before the run. Of course someone with 448 reps, would only
need to make the minimum run time to win.   What would happen I wonder if
you decided to really improve your rep total, I bet you would have less
time and energy to improve your 3 mile run time.  The mystery of STREND
remains how do I best improve my overall potential in the upper body
disciplines and the run-(cardio)?
That is why I believe someone from a running background will always have an
advantage, they should be light to begin with and have an ability to handle
higher reps, it is just a matter of working on overall muscular endurance.
Here is a question:  How do you come up with a formula to best determine
who had the best rep to run ratio/or highest totals in both.   Is someone
who completes 220 reps and runs 22:00 necessarily  fitter than someone
doing 175 and running 17:30?
STREND assumes one factor only, and that is run time divided into
reps.  Who is to say that 45 more reps is better than a 3 mile run time
that is superior by 4:30? (Those 45 reps were worth 6 seconds a piece when
comparing performances by the way)
   I guarantee that it probably is more impressive to have a superior run
time and pretty high reps.  But then we are back to the elusive question of
what it means to be the "fittest"
perspiring minds want to know!



At 03:01 PM 2/28/2003 -0800, you wrote:
>jc
>
>Your formula works perfectly!
>
>Thanks for sharing.
>
>
>--- JOHN R CARMONY <jcar75@...> wrote:
> >
> > Geeez Matt, You do have too much time on your hands!
> >
> > How about this for figuring the rep to run time
> > effect:
> >
> > Reps=RP
> > Run Time=RT
> > Run Time 2=RT2
> > Strend Score=ST (stays same for calculation)
> > Time equivalent of one rep=T
> >
> > RP/RT=ST , (RP+1)/ST=RT2 ,  RT2-RT=T
> >
> > Now anybody can figure it out.  I have found that
> > after a couple of years my reps and run times have
> > flattened out.  For me, I generally do about 130
> > reps and 18.5 minutes on the run.
> >
> > 130/18.5=7.027 ,  (130+1)/7.027=18.642 , 18.642-18.5
> > = .142 , (.142 min = 8.52 secs)
> >
> > So for me, one rep = about 8.5 secs.
> >
> > jc
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: skate_94538
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 7:50 PM
> > To: STREND@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [STREND] Re: Digest Number 271
> >
> > Larry, 140 sounds about right; I think I will shoot
> > for that as well,
> > we have similar builds.
> > Would you say that doing more reps might make one a
> > bit more tired
> > for the run?
> >
> > Comments regarding the lowering of run time or the
> > increase in rep
> > total:
> > (Some one feel free to explain it to me I just can't
> > figure it
> > out!
> > But I am trying.  This is more of a scratch sheet of
> > my notes, please
> > feel free to reply back, I am sure there is more to
> > it)
> >
> >
> > Now, it was said that a rep is equal to 4 seconds on
> > the run time.  I
> > thought about that for a while and did some
> > calculations, only to
> > find that is not always true, and it matters who you
> > are comparing
> > your total score to, and if it is just your own
> > score you are dealing
> > with.  It is complicated but a rep can be worth
> > different values.
> > Let's say you can really rack up the rep total and
> > you score:
> > 214
> > total, and run 21.4
> > Your STREND factor is 10.
> > Now, Competitor B does 175 reps, but runs 17.49 to
> > just beat you out
> > with a 10.0057  Now if competitor A did two more
> > reps, (216)  he
> > would end up with 10.093. Or he could run 9 seconds
> > faster
> > 214/21.25=  10.0705 and that would win to, so his
> > reps are worth 4.5
> > seconds a piece.
> > (turns out the more reps you do the less seconds on
> > the run time they
> > are worth)
> >
> >    Athlete A scores 84 reps and runs 25 minutes
> > =  3.36
> >
> > Athlete B scores 52 reps and runs 15.475+ 3.360259
> >
> >
> > Athlete A has to score 33 reps (85) to beat athlete
> > B.
> >
> >
> > If Athlete B scores 52 reps and runs  18 minutes he
> > scores- 2.8888
> > but by running 2 min and 31.5 seconds faster he
> > would of course win.
> > His reduction in run time was 151.5 seconds.    To
> > score 3.360259
> > with a run time of 18 minutes he would need to score
> > at least another
> > 8 repetitions.
> > I would agree it is much easier to increase rep
> > total.  But again it
> > depends on the total reps we are talking about.  The
> > more reps you
> > score the less room for improvement.
> > Each rep for Athlete B:   151.5/8  = 18.9375 seconds
> > for his own
> > score right?
> >
> > Example:
> >
> > A:  90 reps
> > B:  60 reps
> > A's run time is 30 minutes
> > B's run time is 20 minutes
> > Score= 3.0
> > 10:00 in run time separate A from B
> > and a 30 rep difference.
> > If Athlete A could run 10:00 faster he would score:
> >  4.5 ( or score
> > 45 more reps) 600/45= 13.33 seconds per rep (correct
> > me if I am wrong)
> > And if athlete B could attain 30 more reps he would
> > do the same.  30
> > reps saves him 10:00 of running, how do you
> > calculate the equivalent
> > rep to running time ratio on that?  Is it 20
> > seconds?
> > A:  By running 600 seconds faster he scores 50%
> > better
> > B :  By improving 50% in the rep category he equals
> > athlete A
> >
> >
> > Lets compare similar run times:
> > A: runs 20.5
> > B: runs 20.5
> > C: runs 20.5
> >
> > REP totals:
> > A:  240
> > B:  300
> > C:  180
> > Factors:
> > A:  11.7073
> > B:  14.63414
> > C:  8.7804
> >
> > IF A wants to beat B he/she has to perform at least
> > 61 more reps
> > If C wants to beat  A he/she has to perform at least
> > 61 more reps
> > And if C wants to beat B he/she has to perform at
> > least 121 more reps.
> >
> > Or A can run 4:06 Faster
> > C can run 8:12 seconds faster (not Possible)
> > And for C to beat A he would have to run 5:08
> > seconds faster. (Pretty
> > tough to do)
> >
> > A's  reps are worth 246/61 = 4.032787 seconds
> > C to Beat A 492/61= 8.0655 seconds
> > And for C to beat A 308/61=   5.049181 seconds per
> >
> > I think it is easier just to look at your own score
> > and make
> > improvements there.
> > If someone is consistently at 7 on the STREND
> > FACTOR, I could look at
> > a hundred different combinations to get that 7, but
> > lets take two I
> > guess.
> >
> > 190/7  = 27.14285 run time.
> > 120/7  = 17.1428 run time.
> >
> > Is it easier for the first to increase his rep total
> > or decrease his
> > run time?  I would say the run time but just the
> > opposite for the guy
> > running 17 minutes
> >
> > Now how would they go about scoring a 7.5?
> > The first guy needs to run 1:48 faster
> > And the second guy needs to improve by only 9 reps.
> >
> > The first guy would have to increase by over 13 reps
> > if he did not
> > want to increase his run time, again the more reps
> > you do the less
> > room for improvement, and I think you would be more
> > cardiovascularly
> > tired.
> >
> > So who is to say exactly what is easier?
> > I think it depends on the individual, their rep
> > total and overall
> > score, their run time and who they are competing
> > against.   I
> > don't
> > know maybe I am wrong. It is a bit confusing can
> > anyone come up with
> > an Excel spread sheet or something?
> >
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Your formula works perfectly!

Thanks for sharing.


--- JOHN R CARMONY <jcar75@...> wrote:
>
> Geeez Matt, You do have too much time on your hands!
>
> How about this for figuring the rep to run time
> effect:
>
> Reps=RP
> Run Time=RT
> Run Time 2=RT2
> Strend Score=ST (stays same for calculation)
> Time equivalent of one rep=T
>
> RP/RT=ST , (RP+1)/ST=RT2 ,  RT2-RT=T
>
> Now anybody can figure it out.  I have found that
> after a couple of years my reps and run times have
> flattened out.  For me, I generally do about 130
> reps and 18.5 minutes on the run.
>
> 130/18.5=7.027 ,  (130+1)/7.027=18.642 , 18.642-18.5
> = .142 , (.142 min = 8.52 secs)
>
> So for me, one rep = about 8.5 secs.
>
> jc
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: skate_94538
> Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 7:50 PM
> To: STREND@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [STREND] Re: Digest Number 271
>
> Larry, 140 sounds about right; I think I will shoot
> for that as well,
> we have similar builds.
> Would you say that doing more reps might make one a
> bit more tired
> for the run?
>
> Comments regarding the lowering of run time or the
> increase in rep
> total:
> (Some one feel free to explain it to me I just can't
> figure it
> out!
> But I am trying.  This is more of a scratch sheet of
> my notes, please
> feel free to reply back, I am sure there is more to
> it)
>
>
> Now, it was said that a rep is equal to 4 seconds on
> the run time.  I
> thought about that for a while and did some
> calculations, only to
> find that is not always true, and it matters who you
> are comparing
> your total score to, and if it is just your own
> score you are dealing
> with.  It is complicated but a rep can be worth
> different values.
> Let's say you can really rack up the rep total and
> you score:
> 214
> total, and run 21.4
> Your STREND factor is 10.
> Now, Competitor B does 175 reps, but runs 17.49 to
> just beat you out
> with a 10.0057  Now if competitor A did two more
> reps, (216)  he
> would end up with 10.093. Or he could run 9 seconds
> faster
> 214/21.25=  10.0705 and that would win to, so his
> reps are worth 4.5
> seconds a piece.
> (turns out the more reps you do the less seconds on
> the run time they
> are worth)
>
>    Athlete A scores 84 reps and runs 25 minutes
> =  3.36
>
> Athlete B scores 52 reps and runs 15.475+ 3.360259
>
>
> Athlete A has to score 33 reps (85) to beat athlete
> B.
>
>
> If Athlete B scores 52 reps and runs  18 minutes he
> scores- 2.8888
> but by running 2 min and 31.5 seconds faster he
> would of course win.
> His reduction in run time was 151.5 seconds.    To
> score 3.360259
> with a run time of 18 minutes he would need to score
> at least another
> 8 repetitions.
> I would agree it is much easier to increase rep
> total.  But again it
> depends on the total reps we are talking about.  The
> more reps you
> score the less room for improvement.
> Each rep for Athlete B:   151.5/8  = 18.9375 seconds
> for his own
> score right?
>
> Example:
>
> A:  90 reps
> B:  60 reps
> A's run time is 30 minutes
> B's run time is 20 minutes
> Score= 3.0
> 10:00 in run time separate A from B
> and a 30 rep difference.
> If Athlete A could run 10:00 faster he would score:
>  4.5 ( or score
> 45 more reps) 600/45= 13.33 seconds per rep (correct
> me if I am wrong)
> And if athlete B could attain 30 more reps he would
> do the same.  30
> reps saves him 10:00 of running, how do you
> calculate the equivalent
> rep to running time ratio on that?  Is it 20
> seconds?
> A:  By running 600 seconds faster he scores 50%
> better
> B :  By improving 50% in the rep category he equals
> athlete A
>
>
> Lets compare similar run times:
> A: runs 20.5
> B: runs 20.5
> C: runs 20.5
>
> REP totals:
> A:  240
> B:  300
> C:  180
> Factors:
> A:  11.7073
> B:  14.63414
> C:  8.7804
>
> IF A wants to beat B he/she has to perform at least
> 61 more reps
> If C wants to beat  A he/she has to perform at least
> 61 more reps
> And if C wants to beat B he/she has to perform at
> least 121 more reps.
>
> Or A can run 4:06 Faster
> C can run 8:12 seconds faster (not Possible)
> And for C to beat A he would have to run 5:08
> seconds faster. (Pretty
> tough to do)
>
> A's  reps are worth 246/61 = 4.032787 seconds
> C to Beat A 492/61= 8.0655 seconds
> And for C to beat A 308/61=   5.049181 seconds per
>
> I think it is easier just to look at your own score
> and make
> improvements there.
> If someone is consistently at 7 on the STREND
> FACTOR, I could look at
> a hundred different combinations to get that 7, but
> lets take two I
> guess.
>
> 190/7  = 27.14285 run time.
> 120/7  = 17.1428 run time.
>
> Is it easier for the first to increase his rep total
> or decrease his
> run time?  I would say the run time but just the
> opposite for the guy
> running 17 minutes
>
> Now how would they go about scoring a 7.5?
> The first guy needs to run 1:48 faster
> And the second guy needs to improve by only 9 reps.
>
> The first guy would have to increase by over 13 reps
> if he did not
> want to increase his run time, again the more reps
> you do the less
> room for improvement, and I think you would be more
> cardiovascularly
> tired.
>
> So who is to say exactly what is easier?
> I think it depends on the individual, their rep
> total and overall
> score, their run time and who they are competing
> against.   I
> don't
> know maybe I am wrong. It is a bit confusing can
> anyone come up with
> an Excel spread sheet or something?
>
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Hi my name is mark.

I plan on entering my 1st strend in Canada this summer. I was wondering are
their any videotapes out there showing a strend competition? Also, how much of a
pause is there (between each rep) before the official instructs to do another
rep?

thanks





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Hi my name is mark.

I plan on entering my 1st sternd in Canada this summer. I was wondering are
their any videotapes out there showing a strend completion? Also, how much of a
pause is there (between each rep) before the official instructs to do another
rep?

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Hey Tom,

Tom G. will be there.  Like you he only has to bench 80% of his weight and has
been doing it 36 or so times in practice, so he should be competitive!

Colorado is finally getting a little snow.  We need all we can get.  Otherwise,
the mountains will burn up again this summer.

Good luck in Columbus.  JC

----- Original Message -----
From: Clarkjl1@...
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 6:34 PM
To: STREND@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [STREND] Digest Number 275

JC
I will look up Tom Groves this weekend at the ARNOLD pump and run.  Last year
he was 3rd with 28 presses and a 17:35 run.  Interestingly, the 1st and 2nd
were both 40 years old which benched 90% of body weight.  The friend I am
going with came in 11th last year.  Hope all is well in Colorado.
Tom Clark


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JC
I will look up Tom Groves this weekend at the ARNOLD pump and run.  Last year
he was 3rd with 28 presses and a 17:35 run.  Interestingly, the 1st and 2nd
were both 40 years old which benched 90% of body weight.  The friend I am
going with came in 11th last year.  Hope all is well in Colorado.
Tom Clark


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Geeez Matt, You do have too much time on your hands!

How about this for figuring the rep to run time effect:

Reps=RP
Run Time=RT
Run Time 2=RT2
Strend Score=ST (stays same for calculation)
Time equivalent of one rep=T

RP/RT=ST , (RP+1)/ST=RT2 ,  RT2-RT=T

Now anybody can figure it out.  I have found that after a couple of years my
reps and run times have flattened out.  For me, I generally do about 130 reps
and 18.5 minutes on the run.

130/18.5=7.027 ,  (130+1)/7.027=18.642 , 18.642-18.5 = .142 , (.142 min = 8.52
secs)

So for me, one rep = about 8.5 secs.

jc
----- Original Message -----
From: skate_94538
Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 7:50 PM
To: STREND@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [STREND] Re: Digest Number 271

Larry, 140 sounds about right; I think I will shoot for that as well,
we have similar builds.
Would you say that doing more reps might make one a  bit more tired
for the run?

Comments regarding the lowering of run time or the increase in rep
total:
(Some one feel free to explain it to me I just can't figure it
out!
But I am trying.  This is more of a scratch sheet of my notes, please
feel free to reply back, I am sure there is more to it)


Now, it was said that a rep is equal to 4 seconds on the run time.  I
thought about that for a while and did some calculations, only to
find that is not always true, and it matters who you are comparing
your total score to, and if it is just your own score you are dealing
with.  It is complicated but a rep can be worth different values.
Let's say you can really rack up the rep total and you score:
214
total, and run 21.4
Your STREND factor is 10.
Now, Competitor B does 175 reps, but runs 17.49 to just beat you out
with a 10.0057  Now if competitor A did two more reps, (216)  he
would end up with 10.093. Or he could run 9 seconds faster
214/21.25=  10.0705 and that would win to, so his reps are worth 4.5
seconds a piece.
(turns out the more reps you do the less seconds on the run time they
are worth)

    Athlete A scores 84 reps and runs 25 minutes     =  3.36

Athlete B scores 52 reps and runs 15.475+ 3.360259

Athlete A has to score 33 reps (85) to beat athlete B.


If Athlete B scores 52 reps and runs  18 minutes he scores- 2.8888
but by running 2 min and 31.5 seconds faster he would of course win.
His reduction in run time was 151.5 seconds.    To score 3.360259
with a run time of 18 minutes he would need to score at least another
8 repetitions.
I would agree it is much easier to increase rep total.  But again it
depends on the total reps we are talking about.  The more reps you
score the less room for improvement.
Each rep for Athlete B:   151.5/8  = 18.9375 seconds for his own
score right?

Example:

A:  90 reps
B:  60 reps
A's run time is 30 minutes
B's run time is 20 minutes
Score= 3.0
10:00 in run time separate A from B
and a 30 rep difference.
If Athlete A could run 10:00 faster he would score:   4.5 ( or score
45 more reps) 600/45= 13.33 seconds per rep (correct me if I am wrong)
And if athlete B could attain 30 more reps he would do the same.  30
reps saves him 10:00 of running, how do you calculate the equivalent
rep to running time ratio on that?  Is it 20 seconds?
A:  By running 600 seconds faster he scores 50% better
B :  By improving 50% in the rep category he equals athlete A


Lets compare similar run times:
A: runs 20.5
B: runs 20.5
C: runs 20.5

REP totals:
A:  240
B:  300
C:  180
Factors:
A:  11.7073
B:  14.63414
C:  8.7804

IF A wants to beat B he/she has to perform at least 61 more reps
If C wants to beat  A he/she has to perform at least 61 more reps
And if C wants to beat B he/she has to perform at least 121 more reps.

Or A can run 4:06 Faster
C can run 8:12 seconds faster (not Possible)
And for C to beat A he would have to run 5:08 seconds faster. (Pretty
tough to do)

A's  reps are worth 246/61 = 4.032787 seconds
C to Beat A 492/61= 8.0655 seconds
And for C to beat A 308/61=   5.049181 seconds per

I think it is easier just to look at your own score and make
improvements there.
If someone is consistently at 7 on the STREND FACTOR, I could look at
a hundred different combinations to get that 7, but lets take two I
guess.

190/7  = 27.14285 run time.
120/7  = 17.1428 run time.

Is it easier for the first to increase his rep total or decrease his
run time?  I would say the run time but just the opposite for the guy
running 17 minutes

Now how would they go about scoring a 7.5?
The first guy needs to run 1:48 faster
And the second guy needs to improve by only 9 reps.
The first guy would have to increase by over 13 reps if he did not
want to increase his run time, again the more reps you do the less
room for improvement, and I think you would be more cardiovascularly
tired.

So who is to say exactly what is easier?
I think it depends on the individual, their rep total and overall
score, their run time and who they are competing against.   I
don't
know maybe I am wrong. It is a bit confusing can anyone come up with
an Excel spread sheet or something?



Anyway, I tried.

Matt



--- In STREND@yahoogroups.com, FitX77@a... wrote:
> Randall,
>
> I missed you and John last July 2002 at Miramar, hope to see you
this July
> 2003, I am trying to stay closer to STREND weight year-round and
may even try
> to enter at 140lbs (maybe?) - I have been working behind the scenes
to see if
> the WORLDS can be held in San Diego- looking for sponsors and
informally
> exploring the option for Ed and Carol - keep your training going
and remember
> - it's better to increase your overall reps than to cut your run -
harder to
> do-
>
> best,
>
> Larry
>
>
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Larry, 140 sounds about right; I think I will shoot for that as well,
we have similar builds.
Would you say that doing more reps might make one a  bit more tired
for the run?

Comments regarding the lowering of run time or the increase in rep
total:
(Some one feel free to explain it to me I just can't figure it
out!
But I am trying.  This is more of a scratch sheet of my notes, please
feel free to reply back, I am sure there is more to it)


Now, it was said that a rep is equal to 4 seconds on the run time.  I
thought about that for a while and did some calculations, only to
find that is not always true, and it matters who you are comparing
your total score to, and if it is just your own score you are dealing
with.  It is complicated but a rep can be worth different values.
Let's say you can really rack up the rep total and you score:
214
total, and run 21.4
Your STREND factor is 10.
Now, Competitor B does 175 reps, but runs 17.49 to just beat you out
with a 10.0057  Now if competitor A did two more reps, (216)  he
would end up with 10.093. Or he could run 9 seconds faster
214/21.25=  10.0705 and that would win to, so his reps are worth 4.5
seconds a piece.
(turns out the more reps you do the less seconds on the run time they
are worth)

    Athlete A scores 84 reps and runs 25 minutes     =  3.36

Athlete B scores 52 reps and runs 15.475+ 3.360259

Athlete A has to score 33 reps (85) to beat athlete B.


If Athlete B scores 52 reps and runs  18 minutes he scores- 2.8888
but by running 2 min and 31.5 seconds faster he would of course win.
His reduction in run time was 151.5 seconds.    To score 3.360259
with a run time of 18 minutes he would need to score at least another
8 repetitions.
I would agree it is much easier to increase rep total.  But again it
depends on the total reps we are talking about.  The more reps you
score the less room for improvement.
Each rep for Athlete B:   151.5/8  = 18.9375 seconds for his own
score right?

Example:

A:  90 reps
B:  60 reps
A's run time is 30 minutes
B's run time is 20 minutes
Score= 3.0
10:00 in run time separate A from B
and a 30 rep difference.
If Athlete A could run 10:00 faster he would score:   4.5 ( or score
45 more reps) 600/45= 13.33 seconds per rep (correct me if I am wrong)
And if athlete B could attain 30 more reps he would do the same.  30
reps saves him 10:00 of running, how do you calculate the equivalent
rep to running time ratio on that?  Is it 20 seconds?
A:  By running 600 seconds faster he scores 50% better
B :  By improving 50% in the rep category he equals athlete A


Lets compare similar run times:
A: runs 20.5
B: runs 20.5
C: runs 20.5

REP totals:
A:  240
B:  300
C:  180
Factors:
A:  11.7073
B:  14.63414
C:  8.7804

IF A wants to beat B he/she has to perform at least 61 more reps
If C wants to beat  A he/she has to perform at least 61 more reps
And if C wants to beat B he/she has to perform at least 121 more reps.

Or A can run 4:06 Faster
C can run 8:12 seconds faster (not Possible)
And for C to beat A he would have to run 5:08 seconds faster. (Pretty
tough to do)

A's  reps are worth 246/61 = 4.032787 seconds
C to Beat A 492/61= 8.0655 seconds
And for C to beat A 308/61=   5.049181 seconds per

I think it is easier just to look at your own score and make
improvements there.
If someone is consistently at 7 on the STREND FACTOR, I could look at
a hundred different combinations to get that 7, but lets take two I
guess.

190/7  = 27.14285 run time.
120/7  = 17.1428 run time.

Is it easier for the first to increase his rep total or decrease his
run time?  I would say the run time but just the opposite for the guy
running 17 minutes

Now how would they go about scoring a 7.5?
The first guy needs to run 1:48 faster
And the second guy needs to improve by only 9 reps.
The first guy would have to increase by over 13 reps if he did not
want to increase his run time, again the more reps you do the less
room for improvement, and I think you would be more cardiovascularly
tired.

So who is to say exactly what is easier?
  I think it depends on the individual, their rep total and overall
score, their run time and who they are competing against.   I
don't
know maybe I am wrong. It is a bit confusing can anyone come up with
an Excel spread sheet or something?



Anyway, I tried.

Matt



--- In STREND@yahoogroups.com, FitX77@a... wrote:
> Randall,
>
> I missed you and John last July 2002 at Miramar, hope to see you
this July
> 2003, I am trying to stay closer to STREND weight year-round and
may even try
> to enter at 140lbs (maybe?) - I have been working behind the scenes
to see if
> the WORLDS can be held in San Diego- looking for sponsors and
informally
> exploring the option for Ed and Carol - keep your training going
and remember
> - it's better to increase your overall reps than to cut your run -
harder to
> do-
>
> best,
>
> Larry
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hey Bill,

I am very fortunate to have a good training buddy.  Tom Groves is almost four
years older than I am and he is a heck of an athlete.  He is going to the Arnold
pump and Run and should do very well.  Last year he placed second or third.  He
will do 30 benches (80%) and run around 18 flat or better for the 5K.
He holds the 50+ Strend record, which I hope to break, if he doesn't put it
completely out of my reach!

To get going at running, try to mix intervals (800's and 400's) with longer,
easier runs.  The intervals will make you faster.

Later  JC

----- Original Message -----
From: wb
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 1:46 PM
To: JOHN R CARMONY
Cc: STREND
Subject: Re[4]: [STREND] Body types/composition and leg strength.

Hello JOHN,


enjoyed the encouragement John. running is a weak link for me but i
have never really trained on it to be better at it so i want to give this a
try. happy to know someone my age has done so well with this. this is
great.

Bill




Friday, February 14, 2003, 12:28:49 PM, you wrote:

JRC> Bill,

JRC> I started training for STREND when I was 46 and in pretty good shape from
having been a runner for 30+ years.  I have to say that now, 3 years later, I am
not only in much better shape for
JRC> running but in anything else I choose to do.  STREND is a great way to
train.  My original goal was to be able to score a 5.0 in a competition.  In my
last two, at the age of 48 and 49, I have
JRC> scored over 7 and believe on a good day I can go over 8--even as I approach
my 50th birthday.  Stick with the regimen and you will be amazed at your
improvement.  Good luck.

JRC> John Carmony

JRC> ----- Original Message -----
JRC> From: wb
JRC> Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 1:03 PM
JRC> To: Matt Bogdanowicz
JRC> Cc: STREND@yahoogroups.com
JRC> Subject: Re[2]: [STREND] Body types/composition and leg strength.

JRC> i appreciate the education regarding STREND as i know little about any
JRC> of this. at 47, i'm still going to try this out and see what progress
JRC> i can achieve.

JRC> Bill


JRC> Friday, February 14, 2003, 11:21:34 AM, you wrote:

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Randall,

I missed you and John last July 2002 at Miramar, hope to see you this July
2003, I am trying to stay closer to STREND weight year-round and may even try
to enter at 140lbs (maybe?) - I have been working behind the scenes to see if
the WORLDS can be held in San Diego- looking for sponsors and informally
exploring the option for Ed and Carol - keep your training going and remember
- it's better to increase your overall reps than to cut your run - harder to
do-

best,

Larry


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attach the full link including the # underneath:

http://www.usmc.mil/marinelink/mcn2000.nsf/main5/C6F02246EC8F6D6385256C7900568E3\
E?opendocument
just copy and paste, it is a weird one,

Matt

At 03:02 AM 2/25/2003 +0000, you wrote:

>Skate,
>
>I can't get that link to work. It keeps coming up as an error.
>
>
>Bob
>
>
>
>
>
>
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><skate_94538@y...> wrote:
> > Takis what do you Germans eat?  That is amazing!  15 athletes who
> > could do over 60 pull-ups.
> >
> > check this out!  76 pull-ups!!  Nov. 22nd
> >
> > C7900568E3E?opendocument
> >
> > And that Marine is in San Diego, please someone get a hold of that
> > guy and let him know about STREND
> >
> > Here are some other facts:
> > http://www.geocities.com/scufc/Whypull-ups.html
> > Factoids:
> >
> >
> >
> > I have personally seen more than a few female athletes and strength
> > trainers perform 10 to 15 pull ups at a time, routinely, from a dead
> > hang. Who said women don't have the potential for strong upper bodies.
> >
> > Undefeated heavyweight boxing champion Rocky Marciano was credited in
> > his biography of routinely doing over 30 pull-ups at a time as part
> > of his training regimen (body weight in the 185 lbs. region.)
> >
> >
> >
> > The July 1972 edition of "Sports Illustrated Magazine" did a pre
> > Olympic profile of weightlifting icon Vasily Alexeyev. The super-
> > heavyweight weightlifter from the former Soviet Union, often referred
> > to as Uncle Vasily. He was reputed by the magazine to be able to do
> > more than 32 pull ups at a bodyweight in the mid 300 lbs. range. Talk
> > about pure pulling strength.
> >
> > Strength and Health magazine at the end of the 70's beginning of the
> > 80's did an article on a father and son team who specialized in pull-
> > ups. I am sketchy on the details but if memory serves they could do
> > over 60 pull-ups apiece, and get this, the father was over sixty
> > himself!!!
> >
> > Jack Lalanne, on a TV show in the 1950's, did 1000 chins along with
> > 1000 push ups in 1 hour 22 minutes. They weren't done consecutively.
> >
> > Former WSM Jon Paul Sigmarssson did 25 consecutive pull-ups at 300
> > lbs bodyweight.
> >
> > Former bodybuilding great, Marvin Eder did 80 consecutive chins at
> > 190 lbs.
> >
> > Former WSM competitor and bodybuilder, Mike Dayton did 85 pull-ups at
> > 198 lbs.
> >
> > The most pull-ups ever done is 370 reps, by Lee Chin-Yong of Hong
> > Kong at age 62 in 1988. Lee Chin-Yong was 5'3" tall and 130 lbs
> >
> > Stop rationalizing and start pulling. Think of deadlifts, cleans,
> > etc...As what they truly are, full body movements. Don't rob yourself
> > of pure upper body pulling power, which will aid you in everything
> > you do.
> >
> > I tell you it is easy to be humbled when reading this stuff.
> >
> > Matt
>
>
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Skate,

I can't get that link to work. It keeps coming up as an error.


Bob






-- In STREND@yahoogroups.com, "skate_94538 <skate_94538@y...>"
<skate_94538@y...> wrote:
> Takis what do you Germans eat?  That is amazing!  15 athletes who
> could do over 60 pull-ups.
>
> check this out!  76 pull-ups!!  Nov. 22nd
> http://www.usmc.mil/marinelink/mcn2000.nsf/main5/C6F02246EC8F6D6385256
> C7900568E3E?opendocument
>
> And that Marine is in San Diego, please someone get a hold of that
> guy and let him know about STREND
>
> Here are some other facts:
> http://www.geocities.com/scufc/Whypull-ups.html
> Factoids:
>
>
>
> I have personally seen more than a few female athletes and strength
> trainers perform 10 to 15 pull ups at a time, routinely, from a dead
> hang. Who said women don't have the potential for strong upper bodies.
>
> Undefeated heavyweight boxing champion Rocky Marciano was credited in
> his biography of routinely doing over 30 pull-ups at a time as part
> of his training regimen (body weight in the 185 lbs. region.)
>
>
>
> The July 1972 edition of "Sports Illustrated Magazine" did a pre
> Olympic profile of weightlifting icon Vasily Alexeyev. The super-
> heavyweight weightlifter from the former Soviet Union, often referred
> to as Uncle Vasily. He was reputed by the magazine to be able to do
> more than 32 pull ups at a bodyweight in the mid 300 lbs. range. Talk
> about pure pulling strength.
>
> Strength and Health magazine at the end of the 70's beginning of the
> 80's did an article on a father and son team who specialized in pull-
> ups. I am sketchy on the details but if memory serves they could do
> over 60 pull-ups apiece, and get this, the father was over sixty
> himself!!!
>
> Jack Lalanne, on a TV show in the 1950's, did 1000 chins along with
> 1000 push ups in 1 hour 22 minutes. They weren't done consecutively.
>
> Former WSM Jon Paul Sigmarssson did 25 consecutive pull-ups at 300
> lbs bodyweight.
>
> Former bodybuilding great, Marvin Eder did 80 consecutive chins at
> 190 lbs.
>
> Former WSM competitor and bodybuilder, Mike Dayton did 85 pull-ups at
> 198 lbs.
>
> The most pull-ups ever done is 370 reps, by Lee Chin-Yong of Hong
> Kong at age 62 in 1988. Lee Chin-Yong was 5'3" tall and 130 lbs
>
> Stop rationalizing and start pulling. Think of deadlifts, cleans,
> etc...As what they truly are, full body movements. Don't rob yourself
> of pure upper body pulling power, which will aid you in everything
> you do.
>
> I tell you it is easy to be humbled when reading this stuff.
>
> Matt

Takis what do you Germans eat?  That is amazing!  15 athletes who
could do over 60 pull-ups.

check this out!  76 pull-ups!!  Nov. 22nd
http://www.usmc.mil/marinelink/mcn2000.nsf/main5/C6F02246EC8F6D6385256
C7900568E3E?opendocument

And that Marine is in San Diego, please someone get a hold of that
guy and let him know about STREND

Here are some other facts:
http://www.geocities.com/scufc/Whypull-ups.html
Factoids:



I have personally seen more than a few female athletes and strength
trainers perform 10 to 15 pull ups at a time, routinely, from a dead
hang. Who said women don't have the potential for strong upper bodies.

Undefeated heavyweight boxing champion Rocky Marciano was credited in
his biography of routinely doing over 30 pull-ups at a time as part
of his training regimen (body weight in the 185 lbs. region.)



The July 1972 edition of "Sports Illustrated Magazine" did a pre
Olympic profile of weightlifting icon Vasily Alexeyev. The super-
heavyweight weightlifter from the former Soviet Union, often referred
to as Uncle Vasily. He was reputed by the magazine to be able to do
more than 32 pull ups at a bodyweight in the mid 300 lbs. range. Talk
about pure pulling strength.

Strength and Health magazine at the end of the 70's beginning of the
80's did an article on a father and son team who specialized in pull-
ups. I am sketchy on the details but if memory serves they could do
over 60 pull-ups apiece, and get this, the father was over sixty
himself!!!

Jack Lalanne, on a TV show in the 1950's, did 1000 chins along with
1000 push ups in 1 hour 22 minutes. They weren't done consecutively.

Former WSM Jon Paul Sigmarssson did 25 consecutive pull-ups at 300
lbs bodyweight.

Former bodybuilding great, Marvin Eder did 80 consecutive chins at
190 lbs.

Former WSM competitor and bodybuilder, Mike Dayton did 85 pull-ups at
198 lbs.

The most pull-ups ever done is 370 reps, by Lee Chin-Yong of Hong
Kong at age 62 in 1988. Lee Chin-Yong was 5'3" tall and 130 lbs

Stop rationalizing and start pulling. Think of deadlifts, cleans,
etc...As what they truly are, full body movements. Don't rob yourself
of pure upper body pulling power, which will aid you in everything
you do.

I tell you it is easy to be humbled when reading this stuff.

Matt

>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Takis Hohlfeld <info@...>
> To: <STREND@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2003 10:56 PM
> Subject: strend training
>
>
> > Hello Strends,
> >
> > first sorry for my mistake`s, but Im in hurry and therfore I cant
> > so exactly translate all things.
> >
> > Sometime I read all the special workouts from Matt and other
> > good athletics, but I think all the secret formula is not really
> important
> > for everybody, but maybe or sure for the strend beginners.
> >
> > Look I know in my  army time  minimum 15 athletics with results
> >
> > between 60 to 80 reps pull ups and 150 to 220 reps bar dips in 3 minute,
> and
> > nobody train this system.
> >
> > I will say everybody has another potential and need a different
> training,
> > for
> > a high level without secrets, important the relaxing time and the base
> > for endurance power and maximum power.
> > And the problem we try another system and see the results next saison.
> > For the beginner or all athletics from other sports  I think the same
> like
> > Matt
> > you have to do pull up, chin up ....
> >
> > thats all today from germany, we have in June the next Strend event the
> > international  German open
> >
> > By Takis Hohlfeld
> >
> >
>

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Aloha to all and especially Larry Indiviglia,

This in response to the question on "Is STREND a Total Fitness Test?".

I created STREND as a simple way to test overall performance.  Yes you could
add other disciplines, like many have suggested such as a swim, bike, sit
ups, squats, etc.  But as those who've competed in past events know it would
increase the time element.   Logistics as well as increasing graders, etc.
would make this a more difficult event to put on.  To run 50 competitors
through the event takes 3 hours.  If you're the first competitor you have to
wait over 2 hours to find out the results.

I've spent a long time before I put this event together.  The goals were to
keep it simple, allow people to train without have to go technical, minimize
the learning curve and most important to have a life and still have a well
rounded fitness level.

Training for a STREND event provides enough of a test, I feel to provide the
total package.  I say that because when I was in the military, I followed
this way of training and was able to run 5 miles in 40 minutes (8 minute
mile) while carrying a 40 lb pack over a hilly course.  I never did squats
for leg strength.

Sorry for this quick note but I'm leaving in a few minutes for a 134 mile
relay race around the island where I live called the Oahu Perimeter Run.  My
team starts at 11 pm tonight (in a few hours) and we hope to be done by 2 pm
tomorrow (Sunday).  Then Sunday night, Carol and I will be flying to New
Zealand where she'll be competing in the New Zealand Ironman (March 1).  So
if you don't hear from us for about 12 days you'll know why.

Keep up the interesting discussions.  It is very stimulating.

Have a STREND day,

Ed Bugarin
Founder

========================================================

Message: 1
    Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 15:12:35 EST
    From: FitX77@...
Subject: Re: Digest Number 265

Matt, Max, John + others:

Interesting discussion on wether STREND is a true measure of overall fitness.
  I agree with Matt, that other variables would have to be added/considered to
determine just "how fit" one is. In regard to the leg strength component -
how would you realistically include that in the mix - logistically the run is
the easiest to monitor and execute and "watch" (from a spectator standpoint)
- and yes Matt one's legs would be rubber after a max-out leg press or squat
station.  I have heard other comments on why aren't abs included in the
competition? - well in a strong sense they are - every STREND movement
requires some sort of ab strength/stabilization to be successful - the run
goes without saying- I have seen few very good runners with weak or
non-existent abs.  So the discussion continues - what does the King of STREND
Ed Bugarin think about this?

Larry Indiviglia - San Diego >>

Randall
by the way, you can do the old elite division standards with me in
September.  (I will probably be the only one doing it)
I won't offer it, but it is a chance for me to get one in, since I
use to love the added weight standards.

Matt

Panther is March 22nd,  I will be in the 800.
Ya,I have to get 4 in this year to hit 10!

At 05:32 AM 2/21/2003 +0000, you wrote:
>Hey Matt,
>
>September sounds like a great  month.  Are you running the Panther relays
>this coming weekend?  If so, I may check it out.  What time do you run?  I
>believe I have completed 7 Strend competitions...6 for sure.  You and I
>should  be passing the decade mark soon!
>
>Mark,
>
>Glad to hear you are gearing up again.  I'm hoping to overcome the marriage
>handicap and be back stronger than ever.  My cardio is what I really have to
>work on.  I will be an Miramar and Matt's competition, but probably not the
>World's this year...if they still plan to hold them in Hawaii??  Ed??
>
>Larry I.,
>
>I hope you  are still out  their plugging away.  My STREND score could
>really improve with a run time of your caliber.  What are your plans for
>future STRENDS?
>
>Sonki.....where are you???  When will your resurface?
>
>Best,
>Randall
>
>
>
>"Ever tried?  Ever failed?  Try again.  Fail again.  Fail better.  If you
>are living in a world of zero failure--you are an underperformer--Never give
>up!  Show Me Your Guts Today!"
>
>
>
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Hey Matt,

September sounds like a great  month.  Are you running the Panther relays
this coming weekend?  If so, I may check it out.  What time do you run?  I
believe I have completed 7 Strend competitions...6 for sure.  You and I
should  be passing the decade mark soon!

Mark,

Glad to hear you are gearing up again.  I'm hoping to overcome the marriage
handicap and be back stronger than ever.  My cardio is what I really have to
work on.  I will be an Miramar and Matt's competition, but probably not the
World's this year...if they still plan to hold them in Hawaii??  Ed??

Larry I.,

I hope you  are still out  their plugging away.  My STREND score could
really improve with a run time of your caliber.  What are your plans for
future STRENDS?

Sonki.....where are you???  When will your resurface?

Best,
Randall



"Ever tried?  Ever failed?  Try again.  Fail again.  Fail better.  If you
are living in a world of zero failure--you are an underperformer--Never give
up!  Show Me Your Guts Today!"





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Hi - I'm interested in your progress- I'm struggling
myself with teh  reps: how are you with the
chinups/pullups/dips?

Perhaps we could compare notes as we go along?

Basil

--- ghillie8@... wrote:
> Hello, Randall--I am in training for the Miramar and
> the Worlds in November, so
> I hope to see you as well at these events. Hopefully
> being a newlywed and a
> father has made you slow, so I can pass you on the
> run! :)  Take care.
>
> Mark
>
> STREND@yahoogroups.com wrote:
>
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> > There is 1 message in this issue.
> >
> > Topics in this digest:
> >
> >       1. Re: Digest Number 265
> >            From: "Randall Fairchild"
> <showmeyourguts@...>
> >
> >
>
________________________________________________________________________
> >
>
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> >
> > Message: 1
> >    Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 08:10:10 -0800
> >    From: "Randall Fairchild"
> <showmeyourguts@...>
> > Subject: Re: Digest Number 265
> >
> > Hello STRENDers,
> >
> > I wanted to say "Hi" to Matt, JC and my "old"
> retired buddy Mark.  I've
> > enjoyed reading the banter back and forth.
> Listening to Matt and JC giving
> > advice on how to predict the number of pull-ups
> during a strend competition.
> > Since I teach math at the high school level, I
> think Matt's "secret" formula
> > for determining pull-ups would be an excellent
> question for the California
> > High School Exit Exam!  Most students would skip
> it because it requires
> > reading and thinking!  I also like John's answer
> as it seems so logical.
> >
> > Responding to one of Mark's remarks about me...I
> have been in your age group
> > for over a year now as I'm 41.  It is good to hear
> that you are thinking
> > about competing again.  I have been out of the
> competing mode due to getting
> > married and my wife Helen and I having a baby.  I
> look forward to Miramar
> > this summer and hope you to see all of you guys
> there.
> >
> > Hey Matt...will you be hosting another strend
> competition this year?
> >
> > Finally, I wanted to say "Hi" to Ed and Carol!
> >
> >
>
________________________________________________________________________
> >
>
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> >
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Randall
Howdy!
Plan on September.
Come watch me run a few races up in Sac, starting the 22nd at the city
college. (Panther Relays)
This should be a great year for STREND, perhaps Ed will have those special
awards for those who are or who have completed their tenth STREND
competition.  I think I have done 6?
How many have you done?
Who has done the most?


Matt



At 05:24 PM 2/19/2003 -0800, you wrote:
>Hello, Randall--I am in training for the Miramar and the Worlds in
>November, so
>I hope to see you as well at these events. Hopefully being a newlywed and a
>father has made you slow, so I can pass you on the run! :)  Take care.
>
>Mark
>
>STREND@yahoogroups.com wrote:
>
> > Community email addresses:
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> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > There is 1 message in this issue.
> >
> > Topics in this digest:
> >
> >       1. Re: Digest Number 265
> >            From: "Randall Fairchild" <showmeyourguts@...>
> >
> > ________________________________________________________________________
> > ________________________________________________________________________
> >
> > Message: 1
> >    Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 08:10:10 -0800
> >    From: "Randall Fairchild" <showmeyourguts@...>
> > Subject: Re: Digest Number 265
> >
> > Hello STRENDers,
> >
> > I wanted to say "Hi" to Matt, JC and my "old" retired buddy Mark.  I've
> > enjoyed reading the banter back and forth.  Listening to Matt and JC giving
> > advice on how to predict the number of pull-ups during a strend
> competition.
> > Since I teach math at the high school level, I think Matt's "secret"
> formula
> > for determining pull-ups would be an excellent question for the California
> > High School Exit Exam!  Most students would skip it because it requires
> > reading and thinking!  I also like John's answer as it seems so logical.
> >
> > Responding to one of Mark's remarks about me...I have been in your age
> group
> > for over a year now as I'm 41.  It is good to hear that you are thinking
> > about competing again.  I have been out of the competing mode due to
> getting
> > married and my wife Helen and I having a baby.  I look forward to Miramar
> > this summer and hope you to see all of you guys there.
> >
> > Hey Matt...will you be hosting another strend competition this year?
> >
> > Finally, I wanted to say "Hi" to Ed and Carol!
> >
> > ________________________________________________________________________
> > ________________________________________________________________________
> >
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>
>
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Phone:  408-525-9311
Fax:      408-525-9527
Extension:      59311
mbogdaan@...
***************************************

Hello, Randall--I am in training for the Miramar and the Worlds in November, so
I hope to see you as well at these events. Hopefully being a newlywed and a
father has made you slow, so I can pass you on the run! :)  Take care.

Mark

STREND@yahoogroups.com wrote:

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> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> There is 1 message in this issue.
>
> Topics in this digest:
>
>       1. Re: Digest Number 265
>            From: "Randall Fairchild" <showmeyourguts@...>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 1
>    Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 08:10:10 -0800
>    From: "Randall Fairchild" <showmeyourguts@...>
> Subject: Re: Digest Number 265
>
> Hello STRENDers,
>
> I wanted to say "Hi" to Matt, JC and my "old" retired buddy Mark.  I've
> enjoyed reading the banter back and forth.  Listening to Matt and JC giving
> advice on how to predict the number of pull-ups during a strend competition.
> Since I teach math at the high school level, I think Matt's "secret" formula
> for determining pull-ups would be an excellent question for the California
> High School Exit Exam!  Most students would skip it because it requires
> reading and thinking!  I also like John's answer as it seems so logical.
>
> Responding to one of Mark's remarks about me...I have been in your age group
> for over a year now as I'm 41.  It is good to hear that you are thinking
> about competing again.  I have been out of the competing mode due to getting
> married and my wife Helen and I having a baby.  I look forward to Miramar
> this summer and hope you to see all of you guys there.
>
> Hey Matt...will you be hosting another strend competition this year?
>
> Finally, I wanted to say "Hi" to Ed and Carol!
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

Hello STRENDers,

I wanted to say "Hi" to Matt, JC and my "old" retired buddy Mark.  I've
enjoyed reading the banter back and forth.  Listening to Matt and JC giving
advice on how to predict the number of pull-ups during a strend competition.
Since I teach math at the high school level, I think Matt's "secret" formula
for determining pull-ups would be an excellent question for the California
High School Exit Exam!  Most students would skip it because it requires
reading and thinking!  I also like John's answer as it seems so logical.

Responding to one of Mark's remarks about me...I have been in your age group
for over a year now as I'm 41.  It is good to hear that you are thinking
about competing again.  I have been out of the competing mode due to getting
married and my wife Helen and I having a baby.  I look forward to Miramar
this summer and hope you to see all of you guys there.

Hey Matt...will you be hosting another strend competition this year?

Finally, I wanted to say "Hi" to Ed and Carol!

Hi Tony,

Welcome to STREND.  Great group of folks.  A lot of good training regimens have
been given in past posts.  You might just browse back through the message board
and see what you can pick up.

I prefer to train for STREND by doing STREND workouts, as close to the
competitive sequence as possible.  You find in the competitions that the most
important thing to do is to be ready to go when your muscles are tired.  By
sticking to the 3 minute rule, your workouts not only go faster but you train
your muscles to perform the reps.  I do a double STREND workout - two rotations
back to back, maximum rep on each set, 3 minute start to start.  If you do this
in half an hour and your muscles aren't quivering and exhausted at the end, you
aren't maxing out.

Try it.  You will like it.!!

Good luck!

John Carmony

----- Original Message -----
From: tsabb2003
Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 10:37 AM
To: STREND@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [STREND] training

Hi,  I'm new to STREND.  I'm pretty good shape, i run local 5 and 10K
races the longest I run are half marathons and hit the gym 4-5 times
a week.  I would like to change my training to better prepare for a
strend fitness challenge.  Do you any of you Strend vetrens have
advice to help me set up a training schedule?

Thanx for your help,

Tony
Ft Bragg NC



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Hi,  I'm new to STREND.  I'm pretty good shape, i run local 5 and 10K
races the longest I run are half marathons and hit the gym 4-5 times
a week.  I would like to change my training to better prepare for a
strend fitness challenge.  Do you any of you Strend vetrens have
advice to help me set up a training schedule?

Thanx for your help,

Tony
Ft Bragg NC

I have seen very few 150+ pound women competitors on your website. I have looked
at last year's results and the top women in Canada, anyway, do not weigh over
120 pounds. I can only conclude that the smaller, lighter athletes do much
better than heavier ones, even if the heavier athletes have lean body mass.
  STREND Fitness Challenge <STREND@...> wrote:How much our records
holders weigh is a good question and I think everyone
will be surprised by the results.  When I think of top STREND athletes I
think of Sonki Hong and Matt Bogdanowicz, who are pretty lean and light, 134
and about 140 respectively.

Our overall highest STREND Factor record holders for males are Stuart
Yamatake, another lean athlete at 143, and Takis Hohlfeld who weighed 163
last time he competed in Hawaii.  At 163 I wouldn't say Takis is especially
light or lean.  Allen Leth, who holds the most records (bench, chin up, and
shoulder press at local events) weighs 181 and Carnell Martin, who holds the
bench record for a World Championship weighs 172.  In addition, Russ Rang
used to do very well competing in the Elite Division weighing 185.

On the female side Leslie Trotter holds most of the records and is more what
you would expect to find, weighing around 114 most of the time.  Although
Rebecca Plant holds the bar dip record at 151 and I, believe it or not,
still hold the run record at 153.  There just isn't enough Female Open
division competitors to really call the results statistically significant
yet.

It's not as bad as you think for us normal type (non-superlean) bodies!

Carol Jaxon
STREND Fitness Challenge



On 2/15/03 8:49 PM, "Glen Wauchope" <glenwalkup2001@...> wrote:

> Max's comment about bodyweight threshold (limitations
> of higher weight competitors) makes me wonder about
> the STREND event record holders that were released to
> the yahoo group late last year.  How much do the
> competitors with the top STREND factors usually
> weight?
>


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Leg strength is included in the running portion of the competition. A fast
runner will not have weak legs by any means. To run a sub 19 minute 5K, one has
to be strong and fast. I should hope that most people train their legs, be it
from speed work, hills, tempo runs and/or leg weight. If you really wanted to go
one step further regarding strength and power, then the run should be a 100-200
metre sprint. That would include all the facets of strength without worrying
about rubber legs during the run. I know it is not considered much of an
endurance run then, but it would certainly let you know who has the best fast
twitch muscles. Just a thought, although strend has been set up a certain way
and should not be altered to conform to others strengths.
  FitX77@... wrote:Matt, Max, John + others:

Interesting discussion on wether STREND is a true measure of overall fitness.
I agree with Matt, that other variables would have to be added/considered to
determine just "how fit" one is. In regard to the leg strength component -
how would you realistically include that in the mix - logistically the run is
the easiest to monitor and execute and "watch" (from a spectator standpoint)
- and yes Matt one's legs would be rubber after a max-out leg press or squat
station.  I have heard other comments on why aren't abs included in the
competition? - well in a strong sense they are - every STREND movement
requires some sort of ab strength/stabilization to be successful - the run
goes without saying- I have seen few very good runners with weak or
non-existent abs.  So the discussion continues - what does the King of STREND
Ed Bugarin think about this?

Larry Indiviglia - San Diego


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I wish everyone could have been here this weekend to witness the first Keiki
(kid¹s) STREND Fitness Challenge at the Great Aloha Run Expo!  It was great
to see the enthusiasm and the willingness of kids to try anything.

Seventy-eight kids between the ages of 5 and 16 competed.  Now before you
get caught up looking at the scores and comparing them to adult scores, let
me explain the competition.  The event consisted of four upper body
exercises: push-ups, modified pull ups, modified bar dips, and modified chin
ups ­ with judging not quite up to Murray¹s strict Canadian standards!  The
modified events used the same equipment that we use for the basic division
at a regular STREND event.  After going through those four disciplines in
whatever amount of time they wanted to ­ usually far quicker than the 15
minutes in an adult STREND competition ­ the kids got on a treadmill.
Originally, the idea was to have the kids do a one-mile run.  However, most
kids have never been on a treadmill and balance for that kind of activity
must come sometime after the age of 6 or 7!!  Our quick thinking volunteers
came up with a solution.  Have the kids warm up and get used to the
treadmill for one minute then increase the speed during the next minute
until they maxed out.  So now the goal for the kids was to go as fast as
they could for one minute.  They liked that and it was less stress on
volunteers and parents watching the youngest kids.

Great idea, but how to calculate a STREND Factor with the first kids already
waiting for their certificates?!  We quickly converted the max miles per
hour run into a time for one mile and used that for the ³run time².  So when
you see the run times below, remember that these kids just had to get up to
that speed.  Could they hold it for a whole mile?  I believe a few of them
could, but on the whole these reflect much faster run times than we will see
at the Keiki SREND we have planned for May, which will actually require them
to run around the track four times!

Standouts in the competition included a brother and sister from Hickam
Elementary School.  Nine-year-old Mark Misenhimer wowed the judges with a
total of 145 repetitions: 35 push ups, 52 modified pull ups, 42 modified bar
dips, 16 modified chin ups) and a 6 minute mile for the highest score of the
weekend of 24.1667.  His sister, 11-year-old Meleissa Misenhimer, completed
92 repetitions (36, 10, 37, 9) and ran a 6:15 minute mile.  Their father
commented that training together almost every morning must have been paying
off!  Meleissa¹s score of 14.72 was enough to take first place in her age
division, but first place among all girls went to 10-year-old Melody Kanda
of Heeia Elementary School.  Melody did 141 repetitions (37, 36, 45, 23) and
had a run time of 7:19 for an overall score of 19.2623.

Thank you to our volunteers who braved the weather and traffic and gave up
their Valentine¹s dinner Friday night and those who gave up the better part
of Saturday to help us with the competition.  Also, thank you to Sears for
donating the treadmills for the weekend.

The next STREND Fitness Challenge will be held at Schofield Barracks¹
Stoneman Field on Saturday, May 17.  There will be keiki, teen and adult
divisions.  For more information or to sign up, contact Vera Ross at
vera.ross@... or go to www.strend.com.