Stephen,
Rich Cunha the owner of the taining studio said he reiceved a long
distance call from you, letting him know you broke the hour record
with 812.

I suppose the big question is what is it that motivates us to attempt
such things?
For me it is not about needing to be better then someone else or
somehow feel superior.
When I first started to post my training, a friend made a
comment, "Why would you post your training?; now everyone knows
exactly what shape you are in and what they have to do to beat you".
I am not in competition with anyone. This is about pushing ones own
limits, now whether that is a record or just a PR, so be it.
Having the courage to try and to push our limits is noble in itself
is it not?
Perhaps that inspires others as well.
I agree it is easier to just train in silence and then attempt to
break a record and not let anyone know, this way nothing lost,
nothing gained. If you don't break the record hardly anyone would
know.
With about 7 minutes to go on Saturday I knew I was not going to get
the record, I was in tears, partly because of the pain and partly
because of all the hard work I put in, and I did not want to
disappoint the kids that came out to cheer me on and my parents were
there as well as friends and workmates.
I kept going and tried to do as many as I could, of course I could
have just quit. God knows I wanted the nightmare to end.
I realized afterward that I did make a positive influence on the
kids, they were so amazing and non-judgmental. It reminded me of an
incident when I was about 7-8 years old:
I was inspired as a young elementary school kid when my physical
education teacher did 123 sit ups in 2:00 on a stage in front of the
school. Now we all witnessed it and his effort effected the whole
school. He held a sit up contest before his Guinness record attempt
and I was able to do 2,500 or so non stop to place first.
What an effect and influence he had on me. His record ended up not
being ratified because of some technicality, (someone held his feet
or something)
Did that change any ones mind or did the kids at the school feel let
down? No not at all, we were still motivated by him and his effect on
us was profound.
I hope I still have a few good years left in this body and hope to
continue to push myself. If Takis comes out and does say 880, or you
continue to set the bar, I would still make the attempt. Just
because Bannister broke the 4:00 mile, you didn't see all the other
runners out there quit, just the opposite they kept training and were
inspired and motivated.

So I will push on regardless.
Thank you for providing inspiration as the official World record
holder.
If you have any tips on how to protect your hands I would be much
obliged.

Matt
PS: I will find and uploaded the video of the last few pull ups from
the 522 record back in 04


--- In STREND@yahoogroups.com, Matt Bogdanowicz <skate_94538@...>
wrote:
>
> Hello Stephen,
> Wow, long email, not sure if I can get through all of it today.
> I do feel Chin ups taint the record.
> I stand by my statement. I feel that there should be separate
records for chin ups and separate records for pull ups. They should
not be mixed in the same record attempt.
> I also feel that the way the records are set up, need more
regulation and
>
> Jean francos did 587 on September 20, 1996
> As you know this record came in quite late, and was submitted
years after the fact, no one knew the record existed, so at the time
I did 522, that was the record, briefly I suppose. In the long run
it harldy mattered to me, as the records for 30 minutes and one hour
were relatively new and I knew they would continue to grow, and be
broken. I will be attempting the one hour world record again in a
few months, and I believe that once that record
>
> Yes without a doubt the officials are the ones who review the
tape and then make the final count. There are many folks out there
who no doubt send in video's that get disconted, and for me the one
minute World record is so subjective, so I don't really put much
importance on it.
>
> I am skimming the email as I type looks like we went over some of
this ground before when you felt I insulted you. Anyway, did you get
812? Congratulations!
> Before I go any further: I did not get the 30 minute record this
past saturday- I was on pace for about 20 minutes and my hands
started to bleed and tear, and I just could not handle the pain I
guess, it was dissapointing to be sure, but I certainly did my best
and felt I had the preperation to handle 15 per minute. I have to go
back and verify the reps somewhere between 417-19, so I felt I let
everyone down.
> The best I can hope for is to rest up for three weeks and try
again at the end of the year, in preparation for the one hour
record.
>
> You'll forgive me If I respond to the remainder of the message
later, as It seems quite lengthy and I will need time to go over it.
>
> take care,
>
> Matt
>
>
> stephen <haygem8@...> wrote:
> Hi Matt,
>
> I have been following your log on Strend and Speedendurance, well
> done on the one minute record, however I do have issues with some
of
> your opinions and claims.
>
> Quote ."As some of you know I only perform wide grip
> palms away pull ups, never close grip reverse grip chins as I
> believe
> that taints the record"
>
> If you want to break records I.e Guinness World Record(GWR) you
have
> to follow their rules and not make up your own, see below for the
> concise rules GWR, they are the same for everyone who wishes to be
a
> (GWR) holder.
> In other words before you start any rep. you must be straight in
> body, arms and legs, they will accept that there will be bending of
> the knee on the up movement but when you return you must finish
> with straight arms, body and legs before the next rep, Alternate
> World Record(AWR) accept you can do either hand grip and hook your
> legs back, and this is fine that is their rules, and again it is
the
> same for everyone. I do find it rather arrogant of you that you can
> say other records are TAINTED just because it's not done your way.
> I would also like to put the record straight re. your claim to be
> the one hour record holder, you have never held this record, GWR
> turned it down, and if you looked at the AWR
> http://www.recordholders.org/en/list/chinups.html you will see Jean-
> Francos Huette did 587on 20.Sept.1996 you did your record attempt
> in April 2004 qty 522, I know this as Ralf emailed me to say that
he
> had to take my existing record (573) off, I accepted that and moved
> on,still on Speedendurance.com you claim this record
> You are constantly banging on about others form, like you're the
> only one to do them correctly, you would be best served if you
> concentrated on yourself , and let the official bodies be the
> judges. Here to remind you are a few of your comments.
>
> Quote "but ankles for the most part are locked behind me, in
> order to avoid kipping or leg kicking/whipping. It would be
> interesting to see others who have claimed this record and their
> form. I wonder exactly what their video attempt looked like."
>
> Quote "Just go to YOUTUBE and type in pull ups or speed pull ups,
> you will
> see extreme kicking, kipping and swinging. In STREND the bunjee
> cords
> are 12" in front of the pull up and chin up apparatus, I have never
> hit them or lost a rep in a competiton."
>
> Quote"To be honest the 1 minute record is not all that important to
> me,
> but fun I guess, more of a speed and power exercise like running a
> 400 meters. I have never seen video's of others 1 minute recors and
> some have been discounted, like this gents 47.:
> http://www.mod. uk/DefenceIntern et/DefenceNews/ TrainingAndAdven
> ture/Sai" You even put the web page... how sad
>
> Quote "I just received this response from Guiness." Matt, I am
> surprised you
> are not listed. Did you receive a confirmation?
>
> I received confirmation regarding the review of all submitted
> documents. My
> camera ran out at 509, and the Marines wife got the rest on her
> digital camera
> which had just enough left for the remaining few. This could have
> been an
> issue.
>
> I seen a picture of the guy who did the 512, (terrible form, I can'
> t believe
> they let him get away with those, his knees were way out there)
>
> The record is yours - I know you will be over 700 you should blow
> this thing out of the water." strend 1202
>
> You must remember this one Matt, it was about me,
>
> The is an old saying (IF YOU HAVE NOTHING GOOD TO SAY ABOUT SOME
ONE
> SAY NOTHING)
>
> I know all sounds a little BT but this is all I have to say on
> subject,and like any issues Matt will see it his way and etc,
>
> so I think this will heading down the road to, we agreed to
> disagreed.
>
> P.S. I have just receive my certificate from the GWR for 812 for
one
> hour , I have downloaded 2 pictures for confirmation.
>
> Regards Steve ps I have also submitted a new 30 min record for 457
>
> MOST CHIN-UPS IN A SET TIME
> The following act as a guide to the specific considerations and
> undertakings, in addition to the
>
> general requirements as detailed in the General Rules of the Record
> Breakers' Pack, for any
>
> potential attempt on the above record.
>
> They should be read and understood by all concerned – organisers,
> participants and witnesses
>
> – prior to the event.
>
> Please note that, as detailed in the Agreement Regarding Record
> Attempts, these guidelines in
>
> no way provide any kind of safety advice or can be construed as
> providing any comfort that the
>
> record is free from risk.
>
> GUIDELINES
>
> The record for the greatest number of chin-ups (pull-ups) completed
> by an individual in a set
>
> time frame.
>
> The set times we monitor are 1 min, 1 hour, 8 hours, 12 hours and
24
> hours.
>
> 1 - The record is for the number of repetitions.
>
> 2 - An underhand grip (supinated grip) must be used.
>
> 3 - The event is continuous. The clock does not stop. The body must
> remain
>
> straight throughout, i.e. no bending at the waist (we will accept
> slight bending
>
> at the knees).
>
> 4 - The body must be raised until the chin passes the height of the
> bar.
>
> 5 - The body is then lowered until the arms are straight.
>
> 6 - The above comprises one chin-up. (This basic principle applies
> to all
>
> Guinness World Records chin-up categories with minor
qualifications.)
>
> 7 - Hands must grip on the bar/ring throughout the activity,
however
> it is
>
> permissible to the event in sets. Between sets the participant may
> dismount.
>
> 8 - If the judge disallows any chin-ups, they must be deducted from
> the total, but
>
> mentioned in evidence.
>
> 9 - The name of the person making the attempt should be given,
along
> with the
>
> date and place.
>
> 10 - A video (VHS/DVD) must be submitted, showing the chin-ups at a
> side
>
> on view (bar height but so the elbow bend can be clearly seen).
> Claims with
>
> unclear footage will not be accepted.
>
> 11 - The record attempt must take place over a continuous time
> period as set
>
> by Guinness World Records. The participant may take as many breaks
as
>
> he/she wishes, but the clock may not stop at any time for any
reason.
>
>
>
>
>
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