Hello Stephen,
Wow, long email, not sure if I can get through all of it today.
I do feel Chin ups taint the record.
I stand by my statement. I feel that there should be separate records for
chin ups and separate records for pull ups. They should not be mixed in the same
record attempt.
I also feel that the way the records are set up, need more regulation and

Jean francos did 587 on September 20, 1996
As you know this record came in quite late, and was submitted years after the
fact, no one knew the record existed, so at the time I did 522, that was the
record, briefly I suppose. In the long run it harldy mattered to me, as the
records for 30 minutes and one hour were relatively new and I knew they would
continue to grow, and be broken. I will be attempting the one hour world record
again in a few months, and I believe that once that record

Yes without a doubt the officials are the ones who review the tape and then
make the final count. There are many folks out there who no doubt send in
video's that get disconted, and for me the one minute World record is so
subjective, so I don't really put much importance on it.

I am skimming the email as I type looks like we went over some of this ground
before when you felt I insulted you. Anyway, did you get 812?
Congratulations!
Before I go any further: I did not get the 30 minute record this past
saturday- I was on pace for about 20 minutes and my hands started to bleed and
tear, and I just could not handle the pain I guess, it was dissapointing to be
sure, but I certainly did my best and felt I had the preperation to handle 15
per minute. I have to go back and verify the reps somewhere between 417-19, so I
felt I let everyone down.
The best I can hope for is to rest up for three weeks and try again at the
end of the year, in preparation for the one hour record.

You'll forgive me If I respond to the remainder of the message later, as It
seems quite lengthy and I will need time to go over it.

take care,

Matt


stephen <haygem8@...> wrote:
Hi Matt,

I have been following your log on Strend and Speedendurance, well
done on the one minute record, however I do have issues with some of
your opinions and claims.

Quote ."As some of you know I only perform wide grip
palms away pull ups, never close grip reverse grip chins as I
believe
that taints the record"

If you want to break records I.e Guinness World Record(GWR) you have
to follow their rules and not make up your own, see below for the
concise rules GWR, they are the same for everyone who wishes to be a
(GWR) holder.
In other words before you start any rep. you must be straight in
body, arms and legs, they will accept that there will be bending of
the knee on the up movement but when you return you must finish
with straight arms, body and legs before the next rep, Alternate
World Record(AWR) accept you can do either hand grip and hook your
legs back, and this is fine that is their rules, and again it is the
same for everyone. I do find it rather arrogant of you that you can
say other records are TAINTED just because it's not done your way.
I would also like to put the record straight re. your claim to be
the one hour record holder, you have never held this record, GWR
turned it down, and if you looked at the AWR
http://www.recordholders.org/en/list/chinups.html you will see Jean-
Francos Huette did 587on 20.Sept.1996 you did your record attempt
in April 2004 qty 522, I know this as Ralf emailed me to say that he
had to take my existing record (573) off, I accepted that and moved
on,still on Speedendurance.com you claim this record
You are constantly banging on about others form, like you're the
only one to do them correctly, you would be best served if you
concentrated on yourself , and let the official bodies be the
judges. Here to remind you are a few of your comments.

Quote "but ankles for the most part are locked behind me, in
order to avoid kipping or leg kicking/whipping. It would be
interesting to see others who have claimed this record and their
form. I wonder exactly what their video attempt looked like."

Quote "Just go to YOUTUBE and type in pull ups or speed pull ups,
you will
see extreme kicking, kipping and swinging. In STREND the bunjee
cords
are 12" in front of the pull up and chin up apparatus, I have never
hit them or lost a rep in a competiton."

Quote"To be honest the 1 minute record is not all that important to
me,
but fun I guess, more of a speed and power exercise like running a
400 meters. I have never seen video's of others 1 minute recors and
some have been discounted, like this gents 47.:
http://www.mod. uk/DefenceIntern et/DefenceNews/ TrainingAndAdven
ture/Sai" You even put the web page... how sad

Quote "I just received this response from Guiness." Matt, I am
surprised you
are not listed. Did you receive a confirmation?

I received confirmation regarding the review of all submitted
documents. My
camera ran out at 509, and the Marines wife got the rest on her
digital camera
which had just enough left for the remaining few. This could have
been an
issue.

I seen a picture of the guy who did the 512, (terrible form, I can'
t believe
they let him get away with those, his knees were way out there)

The record is yours - I know you will be over 700 you should blow
this thing out of the water." strend 1202

You must remember this one Matt, it was about me,

The is an old saying (IF YOU HAVE NOTHING GOOD TO SAY ABOUT SOME ONE
SAY NOTHING)

I know all sounds a little BT but this is all I have to say on
subject,and like any issues Matt will see it his way and etc,

so I think this will heading down the road to, we agreed to
disagreed.

P.S. I have just receive my certificate from the GWR for 812 for one
hour , I have downloaded 2 pictures for confirmation.

Regards Steve ps I have also submitted a new 30 min record for 457

MOST CHIN-UPS IN A SET TIME
The following act as a guide to the specific considerations and
undertakings, in addition to the

general requirements as detailed in the General Rules of the Record
Breakers' Pack, for any

potential attempt on the above record.

They should be read and understood by all concerned – organisers,
participants and witnesses

– prior to the event.

Please note that, as detailed in the Agreement Regarding Record
Attempts, these guidelines in

no way provide any kind of safety advice or can be construed as
providing any comfort that the

record is free from risk.

GUIDELINES

The record for the greatest number of chin-ups (pull-ups) completed
by an individual in a set

time frame.

The set times we monitor are 1 min, 1 hour, 8 hours, 12 hours and 24
hours.

1 - The record is for the number of repetitions.

2 - An underhand grip (supinated grip) must be used.

3 - The event is continuous. The clock does not stop. The body must
remain

straight throughout, i.e. no bending at the waist (we will accept
slight bending

at the knees).

4 - The body must be raised until the chin passes the height of the
bar.

5 - The body is then lowered until the arms are straight.

6 - The above comprises one chin-up. (This basic principle applies
to all

Guinness World Records chin-up categories with minor qualifications.)

7 - Hands must grip on the bar/ring throughout the activity, however
it is

permissible to the event in sets. Between sets the participant may
dismount.

8 - If the judge disallows any chin-ups, they must be deducted from
the total, but

mentioned in evidence.

9 - The name of the person making the attempt should be given, along
with the

date and place.

10 - A video (VHS/DVD) must be submitted, showing the chin-ups at a
side

on view (bar height but so the elbow bend can be clearly seen).
Claims with

unclear footage will not be accepted.

11 - The record attempt must take place over a continuous time
period as set

by Guinness World Records. The participant may take as many breaks as

he/she wishes, but the clock may not stop at any time for any reason.





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