hi Greg, had a little go with some weights,necessity being the mother of
invention,one old belt one bike chain,and I was off,bottom line I did more
damage to my side, back, than my arms and shoulders,not to mention
other parts of my anatomy:-s,pain aside I got to 90lbs for 3 reps which is only
60% body weight,did manage the 18reps at 42lbs,which I was happy
with,after the weighted chins, I did some free sets ,I felt like I had lost a
few stone, I will incorporate some of this in to my training , when I
get the correct equipment,as I could seriously damage myself with the M.O.I.
conclusion (could- no must do better) though for the day
success is hanging on when every one else has let go very apt for above.
--- In STREND@yahoogroups.com, "greg_damian" <greg_damian@y...> wrote:
>
> When training with heavy weights, I believe in only training a body
> section once per week to provide sufficient recovery time to the
> muscle. Besides that, probably the biggest thing that helps me is
> keeping a detailed log of my workouts. I know exactly what I did
> last week and always strive to lift more weight (even if only a
> little) in the following workout.
>
> --- In STREND@yahoogroups.com, stephen wilber stevie720@y... wrote:
> >
> > Great Workouts Greg.. I was doing alot of heavy lifting for about
> 8 wks and then hit a peak and was feeling weak so I am back to
> ladder reps and higher intensity for about 2 months.
> > Do you do those workouts 2 times a week? I do 1 heavy and then
> back off on the 2nd day which is anywhere from 3-5 days
> later..sometimes more if I need the rest. I workout as my body
> feels...I will try that seated row on the ball ..looks interesting.
> > I do a lot of cleans with a bar and dumbells..as well as heavy
> push presses and snatches..
> > will let you know what I can pull up with weight
> > steve
> >
> > greg_damian greg_damian@y... wrote:
> > Here is a picture of my weighted pullup
> > http://www.wellnessandpower.com/BIOPHOTOS/90lbchinup.jpg . I am in
> > my heavy phase for another 6 weeks. Yesterday I raised the weight
> on
> > the chain to 122 lbs and was able to do 3 reps. While I was up
> there
> > I did two additional "negatives". That is I used my feet to jump
> up
> > and then as slow as I could went down with my arms. I did another
> > set of 4 that was just negatives at 167 lbs. This is about 30%
> more
> > than I weigh and while the ecentric movement is very useful for
> > building strength you have to be careful and move up to this
> slowly,
> > over several months. Finally, I did a set of 18 with 42 lbs (33%
> of
> > body weight). I did this within a chest/back/core workout. I did a
> > diagonal pulldown where I am on my knees with cables high pulling
> > the elbows into my side. Also did this push/pull exercise
> > http://www.wellnessandpower.com/BIOPHOTOS/PushPull.JPG using 14.5
> > plates. I can't do this on the ball at that weight. I just spin.
> > Great for chest, back and core. I switch sides and movements for a
> > total of six sets of this. Also did ball fly, and a cable chest
> > raise sort of like the photo in the upper left, except I am
> > standing.
> >
> http://www.colganinstitute.com/newpowerprogram/powerprograminfo/Power
> > %20Program%20Levels.htm . I also did some specific core work. I do
> > this once per week and raise the weights every week. I am also
> doing
> > a separate arm and shoulder workout where I do weighted chins
> > similar to above although the weights are lower as there are
> smaller
> > muscle groups utilized.
> >
> > --- In STREND@yahoogroups.com, Matt Bogdanowicz skate_94538@y...
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Steve,
> > > He uses a chain belt, just like I did today. However they
> also
> > make vests, they are quite nice and go up to 100pounds or about 45
> > kilo. They are quite expensive, but evenly distribute the weight,
> > quite nicely. We have one at work that goes up to about 30 pounds
> > or 14kg,
> > >
> > > Today I did 10 sets of back in the gym, 22 sets total, but 10
> > sets of back, 5 of which were pull ups. 2x 10 with a 45 lb plate
> > (my belt also weighs close to 2lb) 2x 10 with 35 lb, and a quick
> set
> > of 20 just body weight. I also did 2 sets of heavy lat pull
> down.
> > 1x12 @200 (90kg) and one set of 10 210lb (95kg), 2 sets seated
> cable
> > row, and one set of lightweight 24 reps low back ext.
> > >
> > > It is not quite the same to do seated heavy lat pull downs as
> it
> > is to do weighted pull ups. This is for two reasons. First: the
> > grip is relaxed on the seated lat pull down when the weight comes
> > all the way up before starting the next rep. This is because the
> > knees are under a pad which is taking some of the force.
> > > Second: When you initially make the effort to pull the weight
> > down there again is the initial opposing force of the legs locking
> > you down and this makes the weight come down a bit easier, as
> > opposed to hanging from a bar where all the effort must come from
> > the back and arms. When doing weighted pull ups your grip is
> always
> > stressed there is no rest, they get increasingly tired through a
> set
> > of 12 say. Not so on a weighted lat pull down, try it and you
> will
> > see what I mean. I did it today and no contest-- much, much
> easier
> > to pull more weight down then to hang with weight and pull up. I
> > would say add at least 25 extra pounds to a seated lat pull down
> to
> > equal the weight on a pull up. So if I weigh 145 (65kg) and I am
> > using 50 (22.6kg) pounds on a weighted pull up, I would need to do
> > 215 (97.5kg) on seated lat to equal it out.
> > >
> > > Matt
> > >
> > > haygem8 haygem8@y... wrote:
> > > hi matt
> > >
> > > how does greg hang the weight or is it on a machine like lat
> pull
> > > downs, i use the lat machine with extra weight but it's not the
> > same
> > > as hanging with free weight as the pulleys makes it easier i do
> > set
> > > of 8 with 150k with alittle help from some one to get me under
> the
> > > seat which about 16k over double b/w,but the pulley system on
> the
> > > machine makes it alot easier than having it strapped to you palms
> > > facing as i do chin ups.
> > >
> > > regards steve
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In STREND@yahoogroups.com, "Matt" skate_94538@y... wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Greg Damian
> > > > and I are planning to attempt the record together head to head
> > in
> > > > April. Greg's training is going great and he recently did 4
> > > pullups
> > > > with 117 pounds! That is only about 9 or 10 pounds under what
> > he
> > > > weighs. Here is the current record (644) I spoke with this
> > > gentleman
> > > > last week.
> > > > http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?
> > > > f=/c/a/2005/12/09/NBGJDG1ELV1.DTL
> > > > Greg has done 445 pullups in 30 minutes and I have a feeling
> he
> > > will
> > > > be well over 700 in his attempt.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > As for the email below I already responded back directly.
> > > >
> > > > [Happy New Year!
> > > > Hywel is the one who sent it to me (with critical comments)
> > > anyway,
> > > > it was only a simple observation. (I unfortunately don't have
> > time
> > > to
> > > > try and investigate the claim further and that photo was the
> > only
> > > > thing I had to go on, so I am sure you will forgive me)
> Anyway
> > I
> > > am
> > > > sure your attempt was judged correctly and good job on the
> 610,
> > I
> > > > spoke with Guy who has the 644 record and he has submitted his
> > > video
> > > > to Guinness, although it wont matter sounds like you me and
> > about
> > > > three other guys are out there training for 700. Truth is
> less
> > > then
> > > > 700 will be something of a dinosaur soon.
> > > > 700 is like a 4:00 mile, and in ten years there well be 100
> > people
> > > > who can lay claim to it.
> > > > My apolagies if I was insulting. Keep training and I hope
> you
> > > > compete in a STREND. I think I will compete in the Canadian
> > > STREND
> > > > in August. In any case this 2006 will be a year for
> records!!!!]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In STREND@yahoogroups.com, "haygem8" haygem8@y... wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > hi matt came across this site over the xmas break
> interesting
> > > > > reading the chap you are referring to is myself,
> > > > > you know one (I seen a picture of the guy who did
> > the
> > > > > 512, (terrible form, I can' t believe they let him get away
> > with
> > > > > those, his knees were way out there)
> > > > > what you don,t know is the photos you have seen
> was
> > > done
> > > > > for the local papers only I was asked to do lots of silly
> > > positions
> > > > > from one arm to having
> > > > > one of the kids on my back etc etc if you look
> > > > > carefully ,if its the photo I'm sure it is,look at the guy
> to
> > > the
> > > > > side it may give it away that the shot is
> > > > > set up, looks like a rabbit caught in the head
> > > lights,as
> > > > I
> > > > > now know from reading the messages on this site,you are
> aware
> > I
> > > did
> > > > > a 610 in one hour at the Vi-sport challenge in Belfast and
> > > > competed
> > > > > in the comp at 01.30pm same day, the comp is based on the
> > ultra-
> > > > > fit,there was some of the top x trainers in the world (hywel
> > > didn't
> > > > > come) and to do the above in front of your peers
> > > > > who would be the first to find fault if there was
> > > any,even
> > > > > the judges discounted a few ,I appreciate you could only
> voice
> > > your
> > > > > opinion on the photo ,but I do think
> > > > > you should be more certain of your facts before you
> > > post a
> > > > > message rubbishing someone you don't know,all the more so as
> > > your
> > > > > name Matt carries a lot of
> > > > > respect on this site ,from the messages I've
> > read,the
> > > > > people at Guinness have been in the records business,for a
> > > number
> > > > of
> > > > > years and are more than happy
> > > > > with my form which is tight and tidy (English term)
> > and
> > > > > full straight line body at the end of each rep,sorry to go
> on
> > > but
> > > > if
> > > > > someone posts messages about me I feel I have the right to
> > reply.
> > > > > ps have been looking at the strend site ,i must
> agree
> > > with
> > > > > hywel looks a great comp will give it a go even if its just
> > for
> > > the
> > > > > training it would be a good work out,just one more thing
> > > > > when i first broke the record in jan i didn't do
> any
> > > > > specific training i phoned GWR on the Friday to check out
> the
> > > > record
> > > > > which was still 445 and on the Saturday i tried it and did
> it
> > > with
> > > > > ease so I phoned back on the Monday and asked for the form
> so
> > I
> > > > > could do the thing as per GWR rules when it was posted on
> the
> > > box-
> > > > > fit Hywel was the first to tell me that you was the
> > > > > true champ as I only did 512 and you had done 522 after a
> few
> > > > > emails we agreed to disagree but your record was never
> > accepted
> > > by
> > > > > GWR why was this? it could have been down to just
> > > > > incorrect paperwork who knows, well it's been nice
> > > emailing
> > > > > you and look forward to your reply, all the best and a happy
> > new
> > > > > year to you and your family and all who visits this message.
> > > > >
> > > > > regards Steve and family would love to see the
> > > video
> > > > > of your 50 pull ups i think hywel may have a copy
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In STREND@yahoogroups.com, Matt Bogdanowicz
> > > skate_94538@y...
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I recieved confirmation regarding the review of all
> > submitted
> > > > > documents. My camera ran out at 509, and the Marines wife
> got
> > > the
> > > > > rest on her digital camera which had just enough left for
> the
> > > > > remaining few. This could have been an issue.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I seen a picture of the guy who did the 512, (terrible
> form,
> > I
> > > > > can' t believe they let him get away with those, his knees
> > were
> > > way
> > > > > out there)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The record is yours-
> > > > > > I know you will be over 700 you should blow this thing out
> > of
> > > the
> > > > > water. I am so busy running and racing lately, it is hard
> to
> > > find
> > > > > time to lift and concentrate on pull ups. Perhaps in
> > September
> > > > when
> > > > > the best of the track is behind me. I would like to raise
> > money
> > > > for
> > > > > some sort of charity again if I can.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Let me know how you do. Good Luck
> > > > > > Matt
> > > > > >
> > > > > > greg_damian greg_damian@y... wrote:
> > > > > > I just received this response from Guiness. Matt, I am
> > > surprised
> > > > > you
> > > > > > are not listed. Did you receive a confirmation?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I may give this a go next Saturday.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Dear Mr Damian
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thank you for your enquiry regarding your intention to
> > attempt
> > > > the
> > > > > > record for 'MOST CHIN UPS IN ONE HOUR'.
> > > > > >
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> attempt
> > > > which
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> > > > > attempt.
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> of
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> > should
> > > be
> > > > > > sent to us here at:
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> > > > > > The current record is:
> > > > > > The record for the most chin ups in one hour is 512 and
> was
> > > set
> > > > by
> > > > > > Stephen Hyland (UK) in Stoneleigh, Surrey, UK on 22
> January
> > > 2005.
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