Spend a couple of months going heavy on bench, then go back to high reps.

You are right that there is no direct correlation between high reps and power,
but if you take the top STRENDERS you will find that overall these guys are
pretty strong in their own right, and usually will have a regiment throughout
the year the mixes up both power and strength training with endurance and less
weight higher rep training. If nothing else it prevents the muscles from
adapting in a linear fashion, keeps them guessing, and provides a base for
future contests.

Matt

stephen wilber <stevie720@...> wrote:
thanks for the advice Greg,,I do get your point, however, I see one difference
with getting stronger (which is what I always use to lift for when I played
football and just lifted) and the strend competition. With the increase of your
strend totals, I dont think it necessarily means getting stronger (1 rep max) to
increase your strend results. Part of the reason is that I think the muscle for
endurance (which is really what we are trying to increase) is not proportional
to the muscle used in absolute power. For example, Just because you can do 10
dips with 100 lbs on your waist doesnt mean you will be able to do 75 dips..at
least at first. But the muscles need to be trained to work on shorter rest, and
go longer which is why I do a lot of strend workouts with supersetting (bench
and pullups together then rest 2-3 minutes, MP and chins, then dips),,and other
times I do each lift with only 2 minutes or less rest..I know this doesnt make
me stronger but it encourages the muscles to
respond faster and go longer. But too many of these workouts will decrease ones
overall strength like you said. I also do 3 types of strends with respect to
weight..one day I use about high percentages of my body weight (bp, pullups, and
chins 40% extra of body weight or more, MP-75% of body weight and dips 50% extra
of body weight. The second day I use regular standard weights and the 3rd day a
moderate weight like the strends they had a few yrs ago.
My numbers have definitely gone up (even though my bench is not near what it
needs to be)
But after these intense workouts for about 1 month (3 times a week) I need to
back off like you said and build a base again..

What suggestions for increasing bench do you have? Everything else I am really
doing well in..but maybe since its only been 3 months that I have been working
out for strend , I need to take a break and build back up again??

Its really great to hear about other guys working out. all my life I have
enjoyed killing myself and I looked for ways to make it useful. This is really
great..
thanks a lot
steve

greg_damian <greg_damian@...> wrote:
Steve, If you are not giving your muscles a chance to recover from
your workouts, you may be getting weaker instead of stronger (by
tearing down the muscle before it has had a chance to recover and
compensate for the stimulation - the growth phase). The good news is
that with proper stimulation, nutrition and rest, the muscles are
programmed to hypertrophy (get larger, stronger). It's a survival
instinct that we all have.

For me anyway, the reason I weight train is to get stronger! I keep
a detailed log of what I do in my workouts. Every time I go into the
gym, I set the expectation that I am going to be stronger that in
the last workout (except for high rep work like STREND, I only do
the same routine once per week). I lift more weight or do more reps
with the same weight.

--- In STREND@yahoogroups.com, "JOHN CARMONY" <jcar75@m...> wrote:
>
> He did not wear himself out as a young man. Take it easy, Steve.
Save some for your 50's, 60's, and 70's! And your Strend scores
will probably increase now, too!
>
> JC
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: stephen wilber<mailto:stevie720@y...>
> To: STREND@yahoogroups.com<mailto:STREND@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 12:20 PM
> Subject: Re: [STREND] Re: Age 90 Long jump, pole vault, etc.
>
>
> Hi there. I have been doing so many strend workouts the last 2
months I need a break,.I am getting worn out. I do them 3 times a
week and 2-3 each time...not 2-3 times the running though..I also
have been using some heavy weights and light weight variations. But
what do you do for the break or down time? just eat and get fat? I
am nervous about that.
> How does a 90 yr old guy still do all that?
> steve
>
> greg_damian <greg_damian@y...<mailto:greg_damian@y...>> wrote:
> I have had an adductor injury that has kept me from running very
> much, but I rode over 500 miles in September so that was good. I
am
> lifting 3 days per week right now, but I won't concentrate on
strend
> or pullups until after the first of the year, probably starting
in
> March.
>
> --- In
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> > Hi Greg,
> >
> > Not that great--11 or 11'6", but I have been working on my
invert
> and am getting back into form! My goal is 13' this winter! I
have
> made 12'6" a couple of times in practice. Just need to do it in
a
> meet. I need to stay ahead of some of the high school girls I
coach!
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> > How is the Strend training going?
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STREND@yahoogroups.com<mailto:STREND@yahoogroups.com<mailto:STREND@ya
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