My belief is that by having more muscle mass, you will be a better
endurance athlete. I want to develop as much contractile tissue as
possible (which is only possible through low repitition stimulation)
and then convert that contractile tissue into an endurance monster!
There definately are physiological adaptations that occur as a result
of endurance stimulation (more mitochondria, more of the Krebs cycle
enzymes, etc) but you'll lose it if not constantly stimulated.

Since there isn't a STREND competition even scheduled for 2006, I
have to assume that the earliest anyone would be competing is the
spring. For me, I target about two months prior to the competition to
convert from strength training to endurance training. At that point I
would only do STREND workouts that have been documented on this board
previously.

Everyone approaches this subject differently so get everyone's
opinion, go through the prior posting, and them try some approaches
out and see what works for you. If you aren't getting results, try
something different.

--- In STREND@yahoogroups.com, stephen wilber <stevie720@y...> wrote:
>
> thanks for the advice Greg,,I do get your point, however, I see one
difference with getting stronger (which is what I always use to lift
for when I played football and just lifted) and the strend
competition. With the increase of your strend totals, I dont think it
necessarily means getting stronger (1 rep max) to increase your
strend results. Part of the reason is that I think the muscle for
endurance (which is really what we are trying to increase) is not
proportional to the muscle used in absolute power. For example, Just
because you can do 10 dips with 100 lbs on your waist doesnt mean
you will be able to do 75 dips..at least at first. But the muscles
need to be trained to work on shorter rest, and go longer which is
why I do a lot of strend workouts with supersetting (bench and
pullups together then rest 2-3 minutes, MP and chins, then dips),,and
other times I do each lift with only 2 minutes or less rest..I know
this doesnt make me stronger but it encourages the muscles to
> respond faster and go longer. But too many of these workouts will
decrease ones overall strength like you said. I also do 3 types of
strends with respect to weight..one day I use about high percentages
of my body weight (bp, pullups, and chins 40% extra of body weight or
more, MP-75% of body weight and dips 50% extra of body weight. The
second day I use regular standard weights and the 3rd day a moderate
weight like the strends they had a few yrs ago.
> My numbers have definitely gone up (even though my bench is not
near what it needs to be)
> But after these intense workouts for about 1 month (3 times a week)
I need to back off like you said and build a base again..
>
> What suggestions for increasing bench do you have? Everything else
I am really doing well in..but maybe since its only been 3 months
that I have been working out for strend , I need to take a break and
build back up again??
>
> Its really great to hear about other guys working out. all my life
I have enjoyed killing myself and I looked for ways to make it
useful. This is really great..
> thanks a lot
> steve
>
> greg_damian <greg_damian@y...> wrote:
> Steve, If you are not giving your muscles a chance to recover from
> your workouts, you may be getting weaker instead of stronger (by
> tearing down the muscle before it has had a chance to recover and
> compensate for the stimulation - the growth phase). The good news
is
> that with proper stimulation, nutrition and rest, the muscles are
> programmed to hypertrophy (get larger, stronger). It's a survival
> instinct that we all have.
>
> For me anyway, the reason I weight train is to get stronger! I keep
> a detailed log of what I do in my workouts. Every time I go into
the
> gym, I set the expectation that I am going to be stronger that in
> the last workout (except for high rep work like STREND, I only do
> the same routine once per week). I lift more weight or do more reps
> with the same weight.
>
> --- In STREND@yahoogroups.com, "JOHN CARMONY" <jcar75@m...> wrote:
> >
> > He did not wear himself out as a young man. Take it easy,
Steve.
> Save some for your 50's, 60's, and 70's! And your Strend scores
> will probably increase now, too!
> >
> > JC
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: stephen wilber<mailto:stevie720@y...>
> > To: STREND@yahoogroups.com<mailto:STREND@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 12:20 PM
> > Subject: Re: [STREND] Re: Age 90 Long jump, pole vault, etc.
> >
> >
> > Hi there. I have been doing so many strend workouts the last 2
> months I need a break,.I am getting worn out. I do them 3 times a
> week and 2-3 each time...not 2-3 times the running though..I also
> have been using some heavy weights and light weight variations. But
> what do you do for the break or down time? just eat and get fat? I
> am nervous about that.
> > How does a 90 yr old guy still do all that?
> > steve
> >
> > greg_damian <greg_damian@y...<mailto:greg_damian@y...>> wrote:
> > I have had an adductor injury that has kept me from running
very
> > much, but I rode over 500 miles in September so that was good.
I
> am
> > lifting 3 days per week right now, but I won't concentrate on
> strend
> > or pullups until after the first of the year, probably starting
> in
> > March.
> >
> > --- In
> STREND@yahoogroups.com<mailto:STREND@yahoogroups.com>, "JOHN
> CARMONY" <jcar75@m<mailto:jcar75@m>...> wrote:
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> > > Hi Greg,
> > >
> > > Not that great--11 or 11'6", but I have been working on my
> invert
> > and am getting back into form! My goal is 13' this winter! I
> have
> > made 12'6" a couple of times in practice. Just need to do it
in
> a
> > meet. I need to stay ahead of some of the high school girls I
> coach!
> > >
> > > How is the Strend training going?
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> > > Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 7:02 AM
> > > Subject: [STREND] Re: Age 90 Long jump, pole vault, etc.
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