Hmm. I floated this idea to Chris earlier, but you both make some good points. All things considered, I think the best step to build programs and give developing players competitive games is to push for a 4 team JV division.
And what might that look like? Would those 4 only play each other multiple times during the league? Or would there be a way to get them a few games against varsity teams while ensuring that the JVs all played each other?
All of which might be moot depending on how many JVs there are out there . . . I was most hopeful for Desmet, Priory, CBC, Howell Central, and maybe Clayton.
JWB. --- On Fri, 1/30/09, Jack Curran <jackcurran@...> wrote:
From: Jack Curran
<jackcurran@...> Subject: Re: [STLHSUltimate] JV Roll Call? To: STLHSUltimate@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, January 30, 2009, 5:06 PM
I think you have some points but in reality. I think it would be pretty easy to seed from the top teams in the B pool by including them in the end of year playoffs. The top two in B are auto seeds in playoffs at 5-6 or 7-8. The rest come in in order of finish after the rest of A group. Thus giving all of them a real shot at seeding for State. As well. There should be a losers bracket that allows a team that lost in the first round to a strong team a chance to get back into the seeding at a higher level if they can come out winners in that bracket. It is absolutely miserable to lose every or most league games. Let alone build a program. Then entice these teams to participate in State. Then get your butt kicked State.
Playoffs that are all inclusive allow a team to rise up. Jack
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I for one hate the idea. We had a first year team win state three
years ago. No one would have put sluh in a top spot last year after
their previous season, and I could probably name a few other
"shockers" additionally, how do we then seed teams for the state
tourney, do a-flight wins count for more? I also don't agree that
there is. No point in playing the game. Check last years scores, we
are developing some real parity. That wouldn't occur if there was a
mediocre division. I'm all for a jv division, as long as we can get 4
teams in it, but otherwise I think its unfair and unproductive.
On 1/30/09, William Schneider <wschneider7@ sbcglobal. net> wrote:
> Jason,
> No JV for Kirkwood.
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> Rather than North and South divisions, one thought is to have JV teams and
> weaker, new-to-the-league teams play in a B-Flight division while the
> competitive teams play in the A-Flight. At Kirkwood, we have a few women
> and a lot of newer players that would get smoked by DeSmet's varsity
> squad--a waste of time for both teams.
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> I think the coaches and players know which flight they should be in, based
> on last year's results and what players graduated. I'd rather have 8 close
> games than 4 blow-outs.
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> Your thoughts?
> Buck
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> Subject: [STLHSUltimate] JV Roll Call?
> To: STLHSUltimate@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Friday, January 30, 2009, 1:15 PM
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> What are the odds that you'll field a JV this year? It could still go
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Thanks,
Chris Martens
English Department Chair
Vashon High School
Hello, all. What are the odds that you'll field a JV this year? It could still go either way at FHC . . . and I'm wondering whether it will be worth pushing...
Jason, No JV for Kirkwood. Â Rather than North and South divisions, one thought is to have JV teams and weaker, new-to-the-league teams play in a B-Flight...
I for one hate the idea. We had a first year team win state three years ago. No one would have put sluh in a top spot last year after their previous season,...
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I think you have some points but in reality. I think it would be pretty easy to seed from the top teams in the B pool by including them in the end of year...
Hmm. I floated this idea to Chris earlier, but you both make some good points. All things considered, I think the best step to build programs and give...
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