I use a Garmin 201. It cost about $100. You can get it at Bass pro
shop. I love mine and use it alot. Its rechargable and easy to use.


--- In SEDRA@yahoogroups.com, "Vicki" <vdobyvicki@...> wrote:
>
> I've heard tell that there is some gadget called a GPS system that
you
> can use to track your mileage traveled while riding/training.
This
> sounds so much better than the old horse pedometers (anyone
remember
> those?)  It always filled up with sand on the first ride & was
> useless.  Another method was driving the vehicle around & making
> some "estimates" of the places you couldn't get into with the
vehicle.
> Then came ATV's, but some aren't equiped with odometers (and who
wants
> to buy one just to measure the miles of the training trail)!!  I
really
> want to get a very good estimate of how many miles I am riding
during
> training rides.  Since I don't have an ATV, the sand is too deep
for my
> non 4WD truck, and the pedometer is out because I know they don't
work
> I thought I would check here to see if anyone is using one of
these GPS
> gadgets that could share some information (how much are they,
how/where
> do you get them, is it something that you can add to your cell
phone
> service?).
>
> Thanks!
>
> ~Vicki
>

I've heard tell that there is some gadget called a GPS system that you
can use to track your mileage traveled while riding/training.  This
sounds so much better than the old horse pedometers (anyone remember
those?)  It always filled up with sand on the first ride & was
useless.  Another method was driving the vehicle around & making
some "estimates" of the places you couldn't get into with the vehicle.
Then came ATV's, but some aren't equiped with odometers (and who wants
to buy one just to measure the miles of the training trail)!!  I really
want to get a very good estimate of how many miles I am riding during
training rides.  Since I don't have an ATV, the sand is too deep for my
non 4WD truck, and the pedometer is out because I know they don't work
I thought I would check here to see if anyone is using one of these GPS
gadgets that could share some information (how much are they, how/where
do you get them, is it something that you can add to your cell phone
service?).

Thanks!

~Vicki

I need to clarify something.  I used the term "half life" when it
comes to omeprazole.  Scratch that.  What I meant to say is that
Merial says that omeprazole only stays in the horse's system for 24
hours.  Any questions?  Contact Merial.

Kim




> Hi Vicki -
>
> I agree that it will be interesting to see how AERC decides on the
> subject of omeprozale along with a host of other drugs. I spoke
with
> Dr. Melissa Ribley today.  She is the head of the AERC Veterinary
> Committee.  If it helps at all, the half life of omeprozale is 24
> hours.  The Veterinary Committee has obtained that information
> directly from Merial, the manufacturer of Ulcer Guard.  If that is
> indeed the case, then it's not a very long time between the last
> dose prior to competition and the next dose right after completion
> of competition.
>
> You are one of many that see omeprozale as an "aid" to the welfare
> of the horse and not a performance enhancing drug.  There are many
> that say it is a performance enhancing drug based on what it does
at
> it's most basic level.  Certainly it is a subject that will be
> hashed and re-hashed.
>
> There is a very short permissible/non-permissible drug list on the
> AERC website albeit you probably already know what most of it
says.
> Nonetheless if you click on "Vets" and then click on "Medication
> Supplement" you will find AERC's one page list.
>
> Have a great night!
>
> Kim Huck
>
>
> > will be interested to hear how AERC decides on this matter..
> especially
> > since gastric ulcers in performance horses seem to be more &
more
> > common place.  It hardly seems fair (in my simple mind) to
say...
> OK
> > horse,  go off your pepcid so I can run in a competition.  I'm
not
> a
> > veterinarian, or a medical professional, but I don't see ulcer
> > protection/maintanence the same way as steriods or pain
> maskers/anti
> > inflamatories, or other currently listed "illegal" drugs per the
> SEDRA
> > manual (I don't know where to obtain a published list unless
AERC
> has
> > one).  I totally agree that performance enhancing drugs & anti-
> > inflamatory drugs as those listed in the SEDRA rules should not
be
> > allowed..   (many of you may not know me, so I should clarify: I
> served
> > on the SEDRA BOD & had an instrumental role in the development
of
> the
> > rules that we are still riding by, including the consequence of
> illegal
> > drug usage)  I also believe that by having these rules in place,
> > sanctioning organizations are placing the horses best interest
as
> the
> > top priority.  There is still much to learn about gastric ulcers
> in
> > horses, as I have just found out first hand!!  I am confident
that
> > there will be a conclusion that will most benefit the best
> interest of
> > the horse.  In the meantime, I will follow the advise of my
> > veterinarian for what is best for the health of my good horse
and
> I
> > will continue to do as much as I can to educate myself on this
> > condition, and welcome any discussion, ideas and updates on this
> issue
> > either in the message group, or emailing me directly.
> >
> > All of your input has been very helpful!!
> >
> > ~Vicki
> >
>

Hi Vicki -

I agree that it will be interesting to see how AERC decides on the
subject of omeprozale along with a host of other drugs. I spoke with
Dr. Melissa Ribley today.  She is the head of the AERC Veterinary
Committee.  If it helps at all, the half life of omeprozale is 24
hours.  The Veterinary Committee has obtained that information
directly from Merial, the manufacturer of Ulcer Guard.  If that is
indeed the case, then it's not a very long time between the last
dose prior to competition and the next dose right after completion
of competition.

You are one of many that see omeprozale as an "aid" to the welfare
of the horse and not a performance enhancing drug.  There are many
that say it is a performance enhancing drug based on what it does at
it's most basic level.  Certainly it is a subject that will be
hashed and re-hashed.

There is a very short permissible/non-permissible drug list on the
AERC website albeit you probably already know what most of it says.
Nonetheless if you click on "Vets" and then click on "Medication
Supplement" you will find AERC's one page list.

Have a great night!

Kim Huck


> will be interested to hear how AERC decides on this matter..
especially
> since gastric ulcers in performance horses seem to be more & more
> common place.  It hardly seems fair (in my simple mind) to say...
OK
> horse,  go off your pepcid so I can run in a competition.  I'm not
a
> veterinarian, or a medical professional, but I don't see ulcer
> protection/maintanence the same way as steriods or pain
maskers/anti
> inflamatories, or other currently listed "illegal" drugs per the
SEDRA
> manual (I don't know where to obtain a published list unless AERC
has
> one).  I totally agree that performance enhancing drugs & anti-
> inflamatory drugs as those listed in the SEDRA rules should not be
> allowed..   (many of you may not know me, so I should clarify: I
served
> on the SEDRA BOD & had an instrumental role in the development of
the
> rules that we are still riding by, including the consequence of
illegal
> drug usage)  I also believe that by having these rules in place,
> sanctioning organizations are placing the horses best interest as
the
> top priority.  There is still much to learn about gastric ulcers
in
> horses, as I have just found out first hand!!  I am confident that
> there will be a conclusion that will most benefit the best
interest of
> the horse.  In the meantime, I will follow the advise of my
> veterinarian for what is best for the health of my good horse and
I
> will continue to do as much as I can to educate myself on this
> condition, and welcome any discussion, ideas and updates on this
issue
> either in the message group, or emailing me directly.
>
> All of your input has been very helpful!!
>
> ~Vicki
>

Well!  This is quite a busy subject matter regarding the "rules"!  I
will be interested to hear how AERC decides on this matter.. especially
since gastric ulcers in performance horses seem to be more & more
common place.  It hardly seems fair (in my simple mind) to say... OK
horse,  go off your pepcid so I can run in a competition.  I'm not a
veterinarian, or a medical professional, but I don't see ulcer
protection/maintanence the same way as steriods or pain maskers/anti
inflamatories, or other currently listed "illegal" drugs per the SEDRA
manual (I don't know where to obtain a published list unless AERC has
one).  I totally agree that performance enhancing drugs & anti-
inflamatory drugs as those listed in the SEDRA rules should not be
allowed..   (many of you may not know me, so I should clarify: I served
on the SEDRA BOD & had an instrumental role in the development of the
rules that we are still riding by, including the consequence of illegal
drug usage)  I also believe that by having these rules in place,
sanctioning organizations are placing the horses best interest as the
top priority.  There is still much to learn about gastric ulcers in
horses, as I have just found out first hand!!  I am confident that
there will be a conclusion that will most benefit the best interest of
the horse.  In the meantime, I will follow the advise of my
veterinarian for what is best for the health of my good horse and I
will continue to do as much as I can to educate myself on this
condition, and welcome any discussion, ideas and updates on this issue
either in the message group, or emailing me directly.

All of your input has been very helpful!!

~Vicki


--- In SEDRA@yahoogroups.com, "vickilcastro" <vdobyvicki@...> wrote:
>
> > Has anyone else in our group had an ulcer diagnosis & treatment?
Any
> recommendations on where to save money on the medication?  Also, does
> using Ulcer Gard or some maintenance drug to prevent recurrance
> create an issue with SEDRA "drug" policy?  I would love to hear from
> anyone else who has or is experiencing this issue, and I will keep up
> posts on our progress!  Sounds like a support group to me!! :-)
>
> Now I must go out & administer my first daily dose of "GastroGard"
>
> Wish me luck!!
>
> Vicki Castro
>

Oddly enough, fwiw, Publix has it even cheaper than Wal-Mart.

I never refrigerated it either, and never had a problem with it.

Jackie,

The jug says to refrigerate after opening, but I've never
refrigerated it.  I just keep it in the feed room by her grain.  Wal-
Mart is a good place to get the Aloe Vera Juice.  You can also get it
cheaply at Sams Club.

Gayle

--- In SEDRA@yahoogroups.com, "JQ Baker" <jqbaker@...> wrote:
>
> If you get your juice at Wal-Mart, make sure you get the plain Aloe
Vera
> Juice, as  I bought a bottle once and it contained Calcium. I
didn't want to
> upset that balance!  Also, I ended up not using the Aloe juice
since it
> needed to be refrigerated. At that time my barn refrig did not
work.:-((  We
> just got electricity at our new place, so I can't wait for a barn
refrig!
>
> JQB
>
>
> On 10/26/06, quarterhorseappendix <Goodiebag@...> wrote:
> >
> >   Vicki,
> >
> > I've not had my horse scoped, like you did with Lad, but I've
always
> > thought in the back of my mind, that she may have ulcers. I give
her 1
> > cup of Aloe Vera Juice (every day, am and pm, on her feed). She
was a
> > cribber, but on the Aloe Vera Juice, she hasn't cribbed in more
than a
> > year (well only little bit, if I give her treats, and then she
stops).
> > My point is, that a lot of people link cribbing to ulcers. The
Aloe
> > Vera Juice supposedly helps soothe things, internally (ulcer-wise,
> > etc.). Some people have also had good success with giving their
> > horses "Miracle Clay" from Dynamite (for the same issues).
> >
> > Anyway, Vicki, I've heard the Gastroguard can get pretty
expensive.
> > You may want to give the juice a try. It can't hurt anything.
> >
> > Gayle
> >
> > --- In SEDRA@yahoogroups.com <SEDRA%
40yahoogroups.com>, "vickilcastro"
> > <vdobyvicki@> wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > Has anyone else in our group had an ulcer diagnosis &
treatment? Any
> > > recommendations on where to save money on the medication? Also,
>
> > Vicki Castro
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> JQB
>

Vicki,

I've not had my horse scoped, like you did with Lad, but I've always
thought in the back of my mind, that she may have ulcers.  I give her 1
cup of Aloe Vera Juice (every day, am and pm, on her feed).  She was a
cribber, but on the Aloe Vera Juice, she hasn't cribbed in more than a
year (well only little bit, if I give her treats, and then she stops).
My point is, that a lot of people link cribbing to ulcers.  The Aloe
Vera Juice supposedly helps soothe things, internally (ulcer-wise,
etc.).  Some people have also had good success with giving their
horses "Miracle Clay" from Dynamite (for the same issues).

Anyway, Vicki, I've heard the Gastroguard can get pretty expensive.
You may want to give the juice a try.  It can't hurt anything.

Gayle

--- In SEDRA@yahoogroups.com, "vickilcastro" <vdobyvicki@...> wrote:
>
> >
> Has anyone else in our group had an ulcer diagnosis & treatment?  Any
> recommendations on where to save money on the medication?  Also, >
Vicki Castro
>

This was a great question! I had great response! It looks like ill
be ok. I guess hoof supplement isnt a big concern. And I dont exceed
the recomended amounts.
Thanks!!!


-- In SEDRA@yahoogroups.com, "JQ Baker" <jqbaker@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Hope;
>
> This is my regimen.... no medications a week before ride. ( if my
horse
> needed Bute, Banamine, or anything more he wouldn't be going
anyway) I used
> to have a horse that I gave MSM, I withdrew that 4 days before
ride, even
> though MSM is sulphur, the amounts suggested are to achieve a so-
called
> anti-inflamatory effect. I never had much faith in MSM anyway.
>
> Normal grain/pellets, salt, electrolytes and your normal over the
shelf
> vitamin supplements used in amounts to supplement normal feed
should be ok.
>
> Now Yucca and Devils Claw are natural but wil show up under a test
because
> the amounts in BL Solution and others are greater than normal.They
are
> intended  to achieva a pharmacological effect.
>
> Basicly, if your horse has a problem and you feel the need "to do
something"
> then he probably should not go.
>
> As Maris said, the blood test rotate on I think a weekly basis and
SEDRA or
> any other sanctioning body does not know what is being tested for
on any
> given week.
>
> Clear as mud, huh?
>
> JQB
>
>
> On 10/26/06, bassoaussie <bassoaussie@...> wrote:
> >
> >   -Goodgrief!!!!,So how do we know what to give out horses and
what
> > not to give our horse and how much to give our horses so as not
to
> > come up as a positive on a blood test? I give just plain
> > suppliments and as recommended by the manufacturer but how do I
know
> > it wont show up on a blood test?? Do I have a vet draw blood? and
> > what does SEDRA look for in a drug blood testing?? Im not sure my
> > vet even know that! How about a list of these drugs and doses
that
> > will make them illegal. Please understand that there are a few
of us
> > that dont have a degree in medicine and will need a VERY simple
> > breakdown in the name of these drugs.I only knew about bute and
MSM.
> > I dont remember reading about the drugs that are tested for. Is
> > there a websight we can go to?I think the blood testing is a good
> > tool to keep the sport clean. I would like to know what to avoid
> > when competing. Not knowing could hurt us.
> > Hope
> >
> > In SEDRA@yahoogroups.com <SEDRA%40yahoogroups.com>, "JQ Baker"
> > <jqbaker@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Omeprazole will test as a drug. It crosses the cellular wall
and
> > is intended
> > > to have a pharmacalogic effect. I feel for you as I had a
horse a
> > few years
> > > ago that I am sure had ulcers, knowing what little I know now.
> > That was
> > > before Omeprazole, I would have put him onit and not competed
him,
> > he was so
> > > much fun to ride.
> > >
> > > You might try shopping on-line and see if your vet will give
you a
> > Rx for
> > > Gastro Guard. I am guessing that the withdrawl time is around
96
> > hours, but
> > > I don't know for sure. Be careful in talking to Merrial as they
> > assume that
> > > Omeprazole is legal in distance riding as it is in many
> > disciplines.
> > >
> > > Good Luck;
> > >
> > > See you at Boggy Creek
> > >
> > > Jackie
> > >
> > > On 10/25/06, vickilcastro <vdobyvicki@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi Gang!!
> > > >
> > > > Well, just had Laddie boy to the vet this morning for a
scope...
> > yep,
> > > > that's right, we found ulcers. So, looks like Lacey, who is
an
> > > > Appendix/Qtr mare, will have to fill in on the one ride that
I've
> > > > entered!
> > > >
> > > > I want to thank the FHA for putting on such an informative
> > clinic in
> > > > September.. this really motivated me to get Lad scoped.
After the
> > > > clinic, and hearing in detail more information about ulcers,
> > causes,
> > > > symptoms etc I decided to make the commitment and go for the
> > > > scoping. Lad had been text-book symptomatic with recurrent
and
> > > > frequent mild colic episodes, not a voracious eater, and
hard to
> > keep
> > > > weight on. My vet & I had been discussing scoping him since
last
> > > > spring, so I had a pretty good idea financially what I was
> > stepping
> > > > into.
> > > >
> > > > Now this is going to cost me an arm & a leg for the next 2
> > months!!
> > > > Plus, my fun little Arab will not be "training" during his
> > > > treatment. He will be on light duty for two weeks and
gradually
> > > > adding more moderate work as we progress. So he will be
taking it
> > > > slow, and Lacey will continue my quest for re-joining a sport
> > that I
> > > > love!
> > > >
> > > > Has anyone else in our group had an ulcer diagnosis &
treatment?
> > Any
> > > > recommendations on where to save money on the medication?
Also,
> > does
> > > > using Ulcer Gard or some maintenance drug to prevent
recurrance
> > > > create an issue with SEDRA "drug" policy? I would love to
hear
> > from
> > > > anyone else who has or is experiencing this issue, and I will
> > keep up
> > > > posts on our progress! Sounds like a support group to me!! :-
)
> > > >
> > > > Now I must go out & administer my first daily dose
> > of "GastroGard"
> > > >
> > > > Wish me luck!!
> > > >
> > > > Vicki Castro
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > JQB
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> JQB
>

Thanks, That set my mind at ease. So I guess if for any reason we
need to give something other then an over the counter supplement or
something given by a vet, it would be best if we asked someone from
the drug board first about compeating while taking the substence?!


--- In SEDRA@yahoogroups.com, MarisR@... wrote:
>
> Herbal supplements rarely test because they are rarely looked for,
except a
> few things that are antiinflammatory, like Yucca, MSM, and a few
others.
> There are a few exceptions.  As to "drugs", they can all test,
depends on  what
> the lab is lookign for that particular day.  We do not get that
list,  it helps
> prevent abuse of the system.  The idea is to not give your horse
drugs
> within a few days of competition.  If your horse needs "drugs" to
compete, then it
> may not be in your horse's best interests to compete that  day.
Most
> substances can be given up to 4 days before a competition, then
taken away, and test
> negative.  It is best to avoid all substances for at  least 4 days
before
> competition.  The rules state that supplements, used in  normal
doses, are legal
> if they do not affect a horse's performance.  this  includes
anything for
> pain, oxygen carrying capacity, endurance, strength,  sedation,
etc.  If there is
> a list published of all banned drugs, I do not  know where to find
it.  I am
> on the drug testing committee.
> I know that I don't take a chance on these things.  After the
competition is
> over, and your horse has had his fina; vet out exam, THAT would
be the tiem
> to give Ulcer Gard, MSM or similar substances.
> AERC has had long hard discussions about the prophylactic use of
joint
> compounds like Hyaluronic Acid, Chondroitin, etc, and also the use
of gastrogard
> before a ride.  Their rules are currently undergoing discussions
preliminary
> to revisions.  Our BOD may need to look at our rules again  after
theirs are
> done.  They have very exerienced Vets tha t help them  aong, and
we have guided
> ourselves along by their rules for the most part.   As it stands
now, all
> drugs can be tested, depends on what hte lab is testing  for that
week.  Each
> specimen is tested for about 50 substances, and it  varies by
week, to keep us
> "honest".
>
> "Life is not  a journey to the grave with the intention of
arriving safely in
> a pretty and  well preserved body, but rather to skid in
broadside, chocolate
> in one hand and  wine in the other, thoroughly used up, totally
worn out, and
> loudly proclaiming  --WOW-- what a ride !! "
>
> Maris Ramsay
>

Hi Hope -

Basically, if you stop giving any additional supplements 4 or more
days before the ride, you should be okay.  There are some exceptions
to that rule.  There are some drugs that stay in the system longer
than that.  There is a list of prohibited drugs floating around out
there.  Anyone know where we can get it?  Jackie?

A good thing to do is to check your supplement ingredients. It's
surprising sometimes what's in there.  A common ingredient which is
not allowed in competition is Yucca.  Essentially, the drug test is
to make sure that our horses are not competing on any performance
enhancing drugs, ie., bute, yucca, msm, dmg, etc.  I believe Adequan
and Legend DO NOT fall into that category however.  Correct me if
I'm wrong on that.

Alot of people give supplements in the name of maintenance.  That's
okay.  Just don't let them interefere with your competition.

Kim

--- In SEDRA@yahoogroups.com, "bassoaussie" <bassoaussie@...> wrote:
>
> -Goodgrief!!!!,So how do we know what to give out horses and what
> not to give our horse and how much to give our horses so as not to
> come up as a positive on a blood test?   I give just plain
>

-Goodgrief!!!!,So how do we know what to give out horses and what
not to give our horse and how much to give our horses so as not to
come up as a positive on a blood test?   I give just plain
suppliments and as recommended by the manufacturer but how do I know
it wont show up on a blood test?? Do I have a vet draw blood? and
what does SEDRA look for in a drug blood testing?? Im not sure my
vet even know that! How about a list of these drugs and doses that
will make them illegal. Please understand that there are a few of us
that dont have a degree in medicine and will need a VERY simple
breakdown in the name of these drugs.I only knew about bute and MSM.
I dont remember reading about the drugs that are tested for. Is
there a websight we can go to?I think the blood testing is a good
tool to keep the sport clean. I would like to know what to avoid
when competing. Not knowing could hurt us.
Hope






  In SEDRA@yahoogroups.com, "JQ Baker" <jqbaker@...> wrote:
>
> Omeprazole will test as a drug. It crosses the cellular wall and
is intended
> to have a pharmacalogic effect.  I feel for you as I had a horse a
few years
> ago that I am sure had ulcers, knowing what little I know now.
That was
> before Omeprazole, I would have put him onit and not competed him,
he was so
> much fun to ride.
>
> You might try shopping on-line and see if your vet will give you a
Rx for
> Gastro Guard. I am guessing that the withdrawl time is around 96
hours, but
> I don't know for sure.  Be careful in talking to Merrial as they
assume that
> Omeprazole is legal in distance riding as it is in many
disciplines.
>
> Good Luck;
>
> See you at Boggy Creek
>
> Jackie
>
> On 10/25/06, vickilcastro <vdobyvicki@...> wrote:
> >
> >   Hi Gang!!
> >
> > Well, just had Laddie boy to the vet this morning for a scope...
yep,
> > that's right, we found ulcers. So, looks like Lacey, who is an
> > Appendix/Qtr mare, will have to fill in on the one ride that I've
> > entered!
> >
> > I want to thank the FHA for putting on such an informative
clinic in
> > September.. this really motivated me to get Lad scoped. After the
> > clinic, and hearing in detail more information about ulcers,
causes,
> > symptoms etc I decided to make the commitment and go for the
> > scoping. Lad had been text-book symptomatic with recurrent and
> > frequent mild colic episodes, not a voracious eater, and hard to
keep
> > weight on. My vet & I had been discussing scoping him since last
> > spring, so I had a pretty good idea financially what I was
stepping
> > into.
> >
> > Now this is going to cost me an arm & a leg for the next 2
months!!
> > Plus, my fun little Arab will not be "training" during his
> > treatment. He will be on light duty for two weeks and gradually
> > adding more moderate work as we progress. So he will be taking it
> > slow, and Lacey will continue my quest for re-joining a sport
that I
> > love!
> >
> > Has anyone else in our group had an ulcer diagnosis & treatment?
Any
> > recommendations on where to save money on the medication? Also,
does
> > using Ulcer Gard or some maintenance drug to prevent recurrance
> > create an issue with SEDRA "drug" policy? I would love to hear
from
> > anyone else who has or is experiencing this issue, and I will
keep up
> > posts on our progress! Sounds like a support group to me!! :-)
> >
> > Now I must go out & administer my first daily dose
of "GastroGard"
> >
> > Wish me luck!!
> >
> > Vicki Castro
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> JQB
>

Riders be sure to bring your piggy banks to the Boggy Creek ride!  We
are getting some great donations for our raffle. I picked up a very
pretty blue stable blanket by Weatherbeeta, will look pretty on a
handsome gray!  Also, there will be a Gingerbread House, if I win that
I am going to donate it to the Methodist Children's Home, Is it ok to
regift if it goes to a good charity?

Horstmeyers Farm & Garden in Sanford has committed to donating
something. I am hopjng they will donate a few bales of their really
good hay, they bought their own semi and go to the fields to pick the
hay, right now, the p-peanut is really good!

Stay tuned for updates on more raffle items!

Jackie Baker

Hi Vicki -

Neither Ulcer Guard or Gastro Guard are not currently allowed in
SEDRA sanctioned or AERC sanctioned competition.  It is allowed in
FEI sanctioned competition.  How many days prior to a competition
should you stop using Gastro Guard or Ulcer Guard so that it doesn't
test?  Good question.  It would definately be worth contacting the
company and finding that out to be sure.  If you do find that out,
would you share that with us?  I'm sure there are others who would
like to know too.  If you would like to review SEDRA's drug policy,
you can go to SEDRA's website.

Good luck with your horse.  Let us know how the treatment goes.
Will there be a follow up scoping?

Happy trails.

Kim Huck



> Has anyone else in our group had an ulcer diagnosis & treatment?
Any
> recommendations on where to save money on the medication?  Also,
does
> using Ulcer Gard or some maintenance drug to prevent recurrance
> create an issue with SEDRA "drug" policy?  I would love to hear
from
> anyone else who has or is experiencing this issue, and I will keep
up
> posts on our progress!  Sounds like a support group to me!! :-)
>
> Now I must go out & administer my first daily dose of "GastroGard"
>
> Wish me luck!!
>
> Vicki Castro
>

Hi Gang!!

Well, just had Laddie boy to the vet this morning for a scope... yep,
that's right, we found ulcers.  So, looks like Lacey, who is an
Appendix/Qtr mare, will have to fill in on the one ride that I've
entered!

I want to thank the FHA for putting on such an informative clinic in
September.. this really motivated me to get Lad scoped.  After the
clinic, and hearing in detail more information about ulcers, causes,
symptoms etc I decided to make the commitment and go for the
scoping.  Lad had been text-book symptomatic with recurrent and
frequent mild colic episodes, not a voracious eater, and hard to keep
weight on.  My vet & I had been discussing scoping him since last
spring, so I had a pretty good idea financially what I was stepping
into.

Now this is going to cost me an arm & a leg for the next 2 months!!
Plus, my fun little Arab will not be "training" during his
treatment.  He will be on light duty for two weeks and gradually
adding more moderate work as we progress.  So he will be taking it
slow, and Lacey will continue my quest for re-joining a sport that I
love!

Has anyone else in our group had an ulcer diagnosis & treatment?  Any
recommendations on where to save money on the medication?  Also, does
using Ulcer Gard or some maintenance drug to prevent recurrance
create an issue with SEDRA "drug" policy?  I would love to hear from
anyone else who has or is experiencing this issue, and I will keep up
posts on our progress!  Sounds like a support group to me!! :-)

Now I must go out & administer my first daily dose of "GastroGard"

Wish me luck!!

Vicki Castro