Yeah, the Gators lost out on Bosh, Francis and Shavlik.  :)  Oh well, Go Gators!

Also, who is that Boomer kid you speak of?

VU got verbals from Krueger and Skuchas; UT got one
from Boomer Herndon.   Anyone care to give us a
recruiting update for their particular team?

thx,
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Subject: Re: [SECHoops] Vanderbilt schedule released

Also, is UT totally out of the running to land Bracey Wright?


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Subject: Re: [SECHoops] Vanderbilt schedule released

Nice one, Ryan.  What is the deal?  Looks like Buzz is trying to send a message!  LOL


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Also, is UT totally out of the running to land Bracey Wright?

Nice one, Ryan.  What is the deal?  Looks like Buzz is trying to send a message!
LOL

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Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 6:33 PM

Subject: [SECHoops] Vanderbilt schedule released

See
http://www.vucommodores.com/menhoop/Releases/2001schedulereleased.html

Connecticut at Storrs and potentially ND in Hawaii are
the highlights.  

So are the rest of the SEC scheds out?   I know UK's
has been for weeks.

October practice is closer than we think.   Anyone
bold enough to give us their preseason predictions?

Later,

Philip

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See
http://www.vucommodores.com/menhoop/Releases/2001schedulereleased.html

Connecticut at Storrs and potentially ND in Hawaii are
the highlights.

So are the rest of the SEC scheds out?   I know UK's
has been for weeks.

October practice is closer than we think.   Anyone
bold enough to give us their preseason predictions?

Later,

Philip

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The SEC Basketball board there has two threads right now -- one re:
Kentucky, one re: Florida.  It seems to be marketed like it's going
to have some smack talking going on, but I guess that will be driven
by who actually posts.  If it's a paid membership-only forum, like
VandyNation, then I would guess the posting would be less
aggressive.  (I'm so far moderately impressed by VandyNation, btw -
but probably not something that most other teams' fans would be
interested in.)

I remember going to Ted Nation quite a bit.  It was one of the more
happening places on the 'net... speaking of alcohol, democrats, and
the SEC Nation, I feel obligated to litter your inboxes with
something you would generally expect to get from that friend who you
haven't talked to in five years, but who still sends you 8 forwarded
emails every day...

(point of clarification : King Philip and myself, otherwise haughty
Vanderbilt hoops fans, are actually backwoods Alabama natives trying
to survive in the 'big cities' of our great nation.  So I feel
justified in passing along this stereotypical comedy...)

"Survivor - the Dixie Experience

A major network is planning the show "Survivor 2" this winter. In
response, Alabama is planning "Survivor, Alabama Style". The
contestants will start in Huntsville, travel South through Arab, down
to Jasper and Birmingham, south through Montgomery and Maxwell AFB.
on south to Dothan and Headland.  They will then proceed up North to
Troy, Phoenix City, Auburn, Sylacagua, Talladega, and via Anniston
and Gadsden back to Huntsville all by way of the secondary roads.
Each will be driving a pink Volvo, with a bumper sticker that
reads "I'm gay, I voted for Al Gore, and I'm here to confiscate your
guns."

The first one to make it back to Huntsville wins one million Georgia
lotto tickets."

See this link:

http://espn.go.com/dickvitale/SECsummer.html

Also espn.go.com has other good content, including
mini-previews of each SEC team.   I don't have a
direct link, but it should be pretty easy to find.

Later,

Philip

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There was some announcement on Vandymania's front page
about joining this great new network, and following
some links brought me to http://www.secboards.com/

Why is it that i get bad feeling from this?  Maybe the
whole Rivals experience just has me scared of
corporate "bigness" when it comes to web resources i
use.   For some reason I just forsee this becoming
Trash-Talk Central where, if they're successful, tons
of posts go by per day with very little said.   There
are already plenty of forums like that.

Oh, and that whole "blah blah Nation" thing was played
out here in New England 2 or 3 years ago: "Patriots
Nation", "Red Sox Nation", "Ted Nation", on and on....

OTOH, kentuckysportsreport.net and GatorCountry.com
are involved, and they have really informative forums.

Later,

Philip

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I wonder if Perpstars is going to add Adrian Moss to Florida's class...
Clint Jackson told me he would have been a top 50 prospect if he was
included in the 2001 rankings.
Surely the Florida class with David Lee, James White and Adrian Moss would
be ranked higher than 7th.  Nobody can replace Kwame Brown, but Moss will
try.

Chris


>From: Philip Reed <ChristianEccentric@...>
>Reply-To: SECHoops@yahoogroups.com
>To: SECHoops@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [SECHoops] PrepStars final 2001 class rankings
>Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 06:12:23 -0700 (PDT)
>
>I don't think this is news, but i was reminded this is
>here by following a link on KSR.   Here are the SEC
>classes, with # of players in parens:
>
>#7 FLORIDA (2)
>#10 KENTUCKY (4)
>#11 LOUISIANA STATE (6)
>#12 ALABAMA (4)
>#16 AUBURN (4)
>#39 TENNESSEE (4)
>#47 MISSISSIPPI STATE (4)
>
>Complete lists at
>http://www.prepstars.com/2001finalclassrankings.html
>
>The rich get richer atop the East, but isn't that what
>recruiting's all about?  *sigh*   Interesting that
>Florida dropped from Consensus All-Everything Number
>One Class of All-Time to #7 -- still not bad, but
>fascinating that Kwame Brown dropped them that much.
>One player making a difference -- THIS is why i love
>basketball.
>
>This caught my eye, btw, under Miss State:
>6-10 OK/Polish C Michael Ignerski Top 100 JC
>
>This is because Vanderbilt also has a Polish recruit,
>and i think SC was also pursuing a Polish guy.   Does
>anyone know anything about the quality of play there?
>  Presumably this Ignerski played juco and HS in the
>US, unlike the VU recruit Dawid Przybyszewski.
>Anyway, any info would be of interest to me.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Philip
>
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I don't think this is news, but i was reminded this is
here by following a link on KSR.   Here are the SEC
classes, with # of players in parens:

#7 FLORIDA (2)
#10 KENTUCKY (4)
#11 LOUISIANA STATE (6)
#12 ALABAMA (4)
#16 AUBURN (4)
#39 TENNESSEE (4)
#47 MISSISSIPPI STATE (4)

Complete lists at
http://www.prepstars.com/2001finalclassrankings.html

The rich get richer atop the East, but isn't that what
recruiting's all about?  *sigh*   Interesting that
Florida dropped from Consensus All-Everything Number
One Class of All-Time to #7 -- still not bad, but
fascinating that Kwame Brown dropped them that much.
One player making a difference -- THIS is why i love
basketball.

This caught my eye, btw, under Miss State:
6-10 OK/Polish C Michael Ignerski Top 100 JC

This is because Vanderbilt also has a Polish recruit,
and i think SC was also pursuing a Polish guy.   Does
anyone know anything about the quality of play there?
  Presumably this Ignerski played juco and HS in the
US, unlike the VU recruit Dawid Przybyszewski.
Anyway, any info would be of interest to me.

Thanks,

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For someone as college hoops-obsessed as myself, Joe Lunardi is a
hero!  Here he takes a stab at next year's NCAA Tournament bracket,
with special attention to the new regional rules.

The link... http://espn.go.com/ncb/s/bracketology/summer/index.html

The following conference teams are in (seeding in parentheses):
Florida (1)
Kentucky (1)
Mississippi (6)
Tennessee (7)
Alabama (9)
Auburn (12)

Feel free to give comments... here's a few unsolicited ones from me:

Kentucky - I agree.  They're going to be good.  Prince is clutch.
They'll be a legitimate National Championship contender.

Florida - They'll be good, but I don't see them as a 1 seed.  If the
talent gels it could happen, but I'm pegging them for a #3 with a
chance for a Final Four run.

Mississippi and Tennessee - Can't argue too much.  Tennessee has to
deal with slightly diminished talent, but has immensely better
coaching to do it.  I see Barnes following up a great year with
another good one.

Alabama and Auburn - I'm not convinced.  Either of these could be
bumped out.  Most likely bumpers?  In order... South Carolina (can
Odom bring life to Columbia?)... Vanderbilt (steadily building
talent and depth)... Arkansas (Does Nolan care?  Can Joe be
replaced?)... Mississippi State (might have the athletes, but can
Stansbury get results?)... Georgia (good coach, signifantly reduced
talent).  Sorry LSU (lack of players and coaching).

I found this link on the UT board and then discussion
made the rounds at Vandymania.   Apologies to UT fans
for airing their dirty laundry (and posting content
that's old to y'all), but for those who haven't read
it I really think it's quite shocking how blunt he
was.

http://www.tennessean.com/sports/ut/archives/01/04/06722558.shtml?Element_ID=672\
2558


> ''This will be pure basketball, dealing with true
> students who're also athletes and not kids
pretending
> to want to grow academically only to play >
basketball,'' Samuels said. ''There will be no real
> baby-sitting.''

(Also i hadnt heard that Gilley left as president of
UT, so that's news to me at least.)

When JG was canned, my feeling was that regardless of
what the national media might say about unrealistic
expectations and all, those of us who observe the SEC
up close knew that something was badly dysfunctional
about that team that needed correction at the top.
This would only seem to bear that out....

Later,

Philip

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KSR's report on today's teleconference::

http://www.kentuckysportsreport.net/cgi-bin/ne/viewNews.cgi?article=995309431&De\
partment=News

Later,

Philip

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Clarification re: Notre Dame vs Vanderbilt.

Vanderbilt does not have a game scheduled with Notre Dame.  However,
they are both playing at the Hawai'i Pacific Univ. Invitational, and
I would imagine that if both take care of business in the first two
rounds, they would meet in the finals.  They are the only two high-
majors in the tournament.

The road game with Tulane is scheduled, and I'm holding out hope for
a UConn matchup.  I think that would be a great series for us.  We do
have one more slot to fill, and hopefully it will go to a good
opponent.

Nice board option, btw.

or_dore

--- In SECHoops@y..., Philip Reed <ChristianEccentric@y...> wrote:
> While we're waiting for others to join us here, here's
> a standard summertime topic: Any interesting
> non-conference games on your team's schedule?
>
> The biggest scheduling news for Vanderbilt was a
> potential home-and-home with UConn starting this
> season in Nashville, but i haven't heard anything for
> a few weeks now.     I think the contract w/ ND
> extends a couple of years, so we should play them away
> this year.   I thought we were supposed to play
> Western Ky. at the Gaylord Entertainment Ctr. as part
> of a doubleheader w/ UT, but i havent heard anything
> about that recently.    And Andy Katz recently
> reported that we also play Tulane in N'awlins.   FWIW
> Tulane also plays at Kentucky, i think.
>
> Any news about the other teams, especially Kentucky
> and Florida who always play tough OOC scheds?
>
> Later,
>
> Philip
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I caught this link on KSR/Wildcat Chat:

http://www.secsports.com/sports/bkc_060801.html

Apparently this is a summer version of the
(semi-?)weekly teleconference they do during the
season.   I dont know if Yahoo Broadcast will carry it
like they do the in-season ones, but it's worth
checking.

Later,

Philip

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http://www.sportingnews.com/voices/mike_decourcy/20010713.html

Extra weight or not, i'm not looking forward to facing
him twice more in his college career.   He
singlehandedly won the game for them last year at
Memorial.

Later,

Philip

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What do you think of the new NCAA
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   o It's an improvement.
   o They should have left it alone.
   o I'll wait and see.
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Thanks!

I keep hearing about this new bracketing deal for the
NCAA, and i wondered what kind of effect it would make
on the sites.    So this is what last year's would
have looked like, provided i'm understanding the new
system:

Greensboro
1. Duke (East)
2. NC (South)

Memphis
2. Kentucky (E)
4. Indiana (W) -- but if the 5 seed had been a Western
team and won out of here, it's hard to see how that
would be an improvement.   I guess b/c the regional
would be in the West.   As it was the 5-seed was
Cincinnati, who would probably like Memphis just fine.

Dayton
1. Mich St. (MW)
1. Ill (MW)

SD
1. Stanford (W)
2. Arizona (S)

Uniondale
3. BC (E)
3. Maryland (W)

NO
3. Florida (S)
3. Mississippi (MW)

KC
2. Iowa State (W)
4. Kansas (MW)

Boise
4. UCLA
4. Oklahoma

I guess it's a little more favorable.   Boise still
gets the teams nobody wants, because let's face it,
there JUST AREN'T ANY GOOD TEAMS IN IDAHO!  lol    But
some of the sites clearly have more appealing "home"
teams now.

Later,

Philip

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I must have been living under a rock or something,
because i don't recall hearing about this issue:

http://espn.go.com/ncb/s/2001/0711/1224845.html

> Sources close to Florida said the Gators wouldn't
> play Dupay if there wasn't closure on the matter
> because if he was later found guilty of gambling --
> on anything, not just basketball -- then the Gators
> could end up forfeiting games for playing an
> ineligible player.

It doesn't sound likely from the article that he'll be
found ineligible, but in any case it would be awful to
leave him in limbo any longer than necessary.

Any news on this from our Florida folks?

Later,
Philip


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--- jcballin21@... wrote:
> Well, here's a list of OOC teams that the Gators
> will be playing this
> upcoming season:
> Florida State
> Michigan State
> Univeristy of South Florida
> UNCC
> Temple and 1 other so far...I can't remember.

Florida - Temple should be a really interesting
rematch of last year's NCAA game.   They're definitely
the kind of team that you don't want to be facing for
the first time in the tournament.... right?

Philip
Still haunted by memories of VU blowing that whopping
24-18 lead to Temple in 1993....


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Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 11:48 AM

Subject: Re: [SECHoops] Any scheduling news?

Well, here's a list of OOC teams that the Gators will be playing this
upcoming season:
Florida State
Michigan State
Univeristy of South Florida
UNCC
Temple and 1 other so far...I can't remember.

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While we're waiting for others to join us here, here's
a standard summertime topic: Any interesting
non-conference games on your team's schedule?

The biggest scheduling news for Vanderbilt was a
potential home-and-home with UConn starting this
season in Nashville, but i haven't heard anything for
a few weeks now.     I think the contract w/ ND
extends a couple of years, so we should play them away
this year.   I thought we were supposed to play
Western Ky. at the Gaylord Entertainment Ctr. as part
of a doubleheader w/ UT, but i havent heard anything
about that recently.    And Andy Katz recently
reported that we also play Tulane in N'awlins.   FWIW
Tulane also plays at Kentucky, i think.

Any news about the other teams, especially Kentucky
and Florida who always play tough OOC scheds?

Later,

Philip

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