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Re: [SABRballparks] Satellite Baseball Ground, Brooklyn

Let me try again. At university we'd call this "revise
and resubmit."

--- Paul Wendt <pgw@...> wrote:

> So far, the evidence for three identical sites is
> shaky.

Hmm. Shakier by the minute. The Brooklyn Eagle of
March 30, 1896, has a more exact address for the Manor
House (or one of them) that makes sense with James
Terry's idea for the Eckford's ground:

"The Euchre Club of Greenpoint will give its first
masquerade ball at the Manor House, corner Meeker and
Kingsland avenues, Easter Monday night."

That's about a mile and a quarter north of Broadway
and Rutledge, where we have to place the Satellite
Base Ball Ground.

New hypothesis: the Eckford's Manor House Ground was
either the same as, or nearby to, the Satellite
Cricket Club's ground, and near to, or on the grounds
of, the Manor House at Meeker and Kingsland. The
Satellite Base Ball Ground was a whole different
entity over a mile south in Williamsburg, at Broadway
and Rutledge. The confusion of names led James Terry
(and me) to erroneously conclude that they may have
been the same ground.

(and yes, I mailed Tom Gilbert, too)

- David Dyte

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I have been researching ballparks in and near Brooklyn, and found a couple of items which I believe had been lost to history. Somebody please stop me if this...
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David, This is fascinating new information. Thank you very much for sharing it. I am very interested in getting this exactly right for the upcoming edition of...
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... . . . ... Ron Selter and I were in the header (cc:) two weeks ago when Retrosheet accepted the new ballpark --called "Ridgewood I" for short, used in the ...
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Hi, I have an article from the Oct 6,1963 Ridgewood Times, which has info on the Wallace Grounds and a 1907 version of Meyerrose Park. To answer Phil's...
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Kevin, Thanks very much. I understand you want me to add Hancock Str to Wallace Grounds. What about Wyckoff and Covert (now called Norman? Any idea on the...
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I don't believe Hancock was any edge of Wallace's grounds. The Sanborn map of Queens from 1903 clearly shows the park grounds going east from Irving and Halsey...
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Phil, I do not know the field orientation. I'm not sure about what is being called Ridgewood Park I, because Myrtle Ave is a few blocks from where Wallace's...
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That's great to know. I have always wondered why Ridgewood Park seemed to have so many addresses. Fortunately this one seems to have settled in the second...
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Phil & David, Sorry it took so long to get back in this discussion. Last night, we attended the Reading Phillies game, which went 11 innings and then we stayed...
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Kevin: I'd love any pictures you might have, please! Although the chain of evidence is longish, I am now quite certain of the Long Island Grounds location. For...
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Does anyone know when the stands and bleachers at Manhattan Field, just south of the Polo Grounds, were demolished? I know they were used for various ...
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... Ok, this got me panicking. Was there *yet another* Ridgewood Park I had missed? Here's a quick summary of my research starting at that date and moving...
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I had not even heard of this ground until folks on the 19th century list pointed me to Long Before the Dodgers, by James Terry. This book described the ...
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So far, the evidence for three identical sites is shaky. David Dyte wrote: . . . ... I'm sure that your first stop should be Tom Gilbert. Thomas Gilbert ...
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... I agree completely. The only thing I'm certain of is that the Satellite Baseball Grounds were at Broadway and Rutledge. Thanks for the name. I'll go and...
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Let me try again. At university we'd call this "revise and resubmit." ... Hmm. Shakier by the minute. The Brooklyn Eagle of March 30, 1896, has a more exact...
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