... It's no longer available. There's a discussion of the issue on both SABR-L and BRSP (the Yahoo mailing list for SABR policy discussions, which is not...
This is the most ridiculous thing I've heard since Jim Bouton proposed something similar in Seattle. ... From: Rod Nelson To: SABR_Records@yahoogroups.com ;...
The referenced USA Today article. http://tinyurl.com/cfggdc *Only Bud Selig can rectify steroids situation in baseball* By Christine Brennan, USA TODAY...
Bob Feller advocated two sets of records, "one for those who used steroids and one for those of us who didn't." Numerous problems with all of that. 1...
Everyone who reads this comment from Selig about restoring Aaron as the home run champ has to understand that Aaron and Selig have been friends for decades. ...
David is, of course, right with all the implications of the Selig suggestion. And he also touched on an interesting issue. There ARE different levels of...
David is exactly right. And when I mentioned all these problems to Bouton after his speech, his response was "nobody gives a shit about all that other stuff...
Well, while we're pondering the best methodology for historical revisionism, I'd like to get some help rewriting Herb Score's bio, yunno, if he'd just learned...
Yes, unfortunately many players feel as Bouton. However, without records to glorify some of them, where would they be when payday rolls around, voting for the...
Making numbers disappear from the record books would be clumsy and potentially disastrous, as David pointed out. Hundreds in baseball have used steroids since...
OK, then let's tag everyone who broke the law: Career Home Run Leaders Barry Bonds, 762* Hank Aaron, 755 *** Babe Ruth, 714 ** ... *Tested positive for...
No. There's no need to. The Numbers are The Numbers. And furthermore, they do not connote any moral value. None. As keepers of the records, it is our job to...
It would appear the NFL supports this philosophy. OJ is still scattered among the nfl.com records, sans asterisk or any other markings. ... From: Rod Nelson ...
If OJ had murdered Ron and Nicole in a championship game, it would be a matter for The Record Book. (ie, what was the down and distance??) But of course,...
While I happen to agree that the numbers are the numbers, I think it is a little harsh to suggest that a differing point of view is idiotic. The Olympics does...
... wipe out ... Frankly speaking I don't see how anyone can make excuses for these drug enhancing cheaters. Players in the past always sought whatever edge...
Speaking of expunging on-the-field achievements, how does Little League Baseball treat the results of the Bronx team in the 2001 LLWS? Even if you throw out...
GrandSlams@... wrote: [ expunging ;-) ] ... No. The spitball is not part of the conversation. Not even a parallel. Are you saying we should penalize guys...
On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 10:42 PM, hatchersj wrote: (snip) ... No one's making excuses for anything. David Vincent was pointing out the difficulties we would...
Track and field events have an obviously different dynamic. It is simply a matter of eliminating the winner (if that's the one who cheated) and moving the...
Personally, I don't see that as being within the charter of SABR Records. It's this committee's job IMO to record, to the best of its ability, what actually...
This is something I have never completely understood about this committee. It seems to me that we should hardly care what Bud Selig or Major League Baseball...
I agree that using spitballs is different. Because, of course, spitballing is cheating. What is being discussed here is non-cheating. You clearly think that...
Without demeaning the Olympics and NCAA sports, those 'leagues' can invalidate their records because, frankly, hardly anybody cares about those sports'...
I agree 100% but why is anyone surprised? This is Bud Selig we are talking about --- he's never been the sharpest knife in the drawer................  ... ...
He could just declare Aaron, Bonds and eventually Rodriguez to be tied. He could declare that if Bonds ends up ahead the NL hosts games 1267 of the World...
My personal opinion is that Selig must have been on some sort of "enhancer" when he made the statement given the absolute fact that no one now or ever will be...
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