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Re: [SABR_Records] Charley Radbourn's victory total

7 Jun 2006, Bill Deane wrote:

> Per ICI, Mullane got the win in this game (toward a season record of
> 23-26). Radbourn's sheet shows a 10-13 record, but there is another
> win pencilled in for the game of June 30, making him 11-13.

Radbourn 1891 is 11-13 in the first edition Baseball Encyclopedia, so
the handwritten note is incorporated. Is that generally true of the
handnotes that are cited in these discussions?

Paul Wendt



Thu Jun 8, 2006 7:07 am

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Sorry to bother you with this, but in 1891 Mickey Welch pitched 14 CGs, of which he won 5 and lost 9. The MLB.com, baseball-reference.com, and retrosheet.org...
Jean-Pierre CAILLAULT
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Jun 6, 2006
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For what it's worth, Elias, the official statistician of MLB, has Welch's 1891 record as 6-12. Dan Holmes ... From: SABR_Records@yahoogroups.com ...
Holmes, Dan
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Jun 6, 2006
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Dan: The 1892 Spalding Guide showed Welch with 5-11 for the 1891 season. He was 1-4 vs Boston, 2-1 vs Brooklyn, 0-2 vs Cincinnati, 0-1 vs Cleveland, 0-3 vs...
james smith
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Jun 6, 2006
5:40 pm

I apologize for asking about yet another W-L decision from long, long ago, but, well, I want to try to understand the rationale behind awarding these Ws and...
Jean-Pierre CAILLAULT
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Jun 7, 2006
4:12 am

Per ICI, Mullane got the win in this game (toward a season record of 23-26). Radbourn's sheet shows a 10-13 record, but there is another win pencilled in for...
Bill Deane
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Jun 8, 2006
2:19 am

... Radbourn 1891 is 11-13 in the first edition Baseball Encyclopedia, so the handwritten note is incorporated. Is that generally true of the handnotes that...
Paul Wendt
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Jun 8, 2006
7:17 am

I checked the ICI sheets on this issue. Unfortunately, it only clouded things more than they were. It would have been helpful if JP had mentioned the date of...
Bill Deane
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Jun 8, 2006
2:20 am

We could also, with a little effort, say what his record would most likely be under the rules of 2006....
Clem Comly
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Jun 8, 2006
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