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Re: Polanco Errorless streak ends

--- In SABR_Records@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Deane" <DizDeane@...> wrote:
>
> I hate to blaspheme this group with discussion about football, but
this reminds me of something that happened in the NFL in 1972. In the
last game of the year, the Dolphins' Mercury Morris had a chance to
reach 1000 yards rushing for the campaign, a big milestone in the
14-game-season days. I believe it also would have made Miami the
first team to have two 1000-yard rushers (Larry Csonka was the other)
in the same year. Morris made a valiant effort, but got banged up and
had to leave the game with just 991 yards to his credit. However,
shortly after the season ended, Commissioner Pete Rozelle announced
that he had been reviewing some game films and noticed that Morris
failed to get credit for a nine-yard run earlier in the season. Thus,
Morris is listed with an even 1000 yards for 1972.
>
> Bill Deane

Football statistics are changed after the game at almost every level.
It happens quite a bit at the top college level and also in the NFL.
The sport is rather imprecise for something that has such a regimented
style of play. At the college level, the home team provides the stat
crew and they, usually with the approval of their own head coach, will
alter the stats after the game.

Baseball, with the notable exception of fielding errors, tends to have
more plays which are yes/no or discrete in nature, so the record
after a game does not change nearly as often.

As a high school football stringer for a local paper, my least
favorite play was always an interception return for a touchdown. I
would have to make an educated guess where the return stated (often
upfield and away from where I was standing) and write in my boxscore
something like "Timmermann 46 interception return (kick failed)". Of
course, the beauty of that was that for the most part I was the de
facto official scorer. Whatever I wrote became the official record.

Sadly, my baseball scorebook that I take to games does not convey me
with such powers. Except to people who aren't paying attention.

Bob Timmermann




Tue Aug 28, 2007 8:42 am

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From the AP, here's the news on Placido Polanco's errorless streak at second base: "Placido Polanco of the Detroit Tigers committed an error in the first ...
Trent
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Aug 25, 2007
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The error has been rescinded and given to first baseman Marcus Thames, so both Polanco's streaks (games and chances) are intact. ... From: Trent To:...
mjohnson
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Aug 26, 2007
7:51 pm

The Polanco error recension reminds me of a game involving Cobb in 1922. Early in the year, Cobb hit a ball that was poorly fielded in the rain by one of the...
Trent
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Aug 26, 2007
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Hey Trent, Since you're a Cobb aficionado, I'd sure like to hear your thoughts on the official scoring at St. Louis on the last day of the 1910 season that...
Steve and Joyce Hatcher
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Aug 26, 2007
11:43 pm

There is a lesson to be learned (actually relearned) here. Some future researcher might stumble on the report that Polanco's streaks were stopped at 147 games...
Lyle Spatz
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Aug 27, 2007
12:04 am

I hate to blaspheme this group with discussion about football, but this reminds me of something that happened in the NFL in 1972. In the last game of the...
Bill Deane
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Aug 27, 2007
12:27 pm

... this reminds me of something that happened in the NFL in 1972. In the last game of the year, the Dolphins' Mercury Morris had a chance to reach 1000 yards...
btimmer
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Aug 28, 2007
8:42 am

... This is where I have to tell my story and pat myself on the back. I do defensive stats for the 49ers. Really the only official defensive stat is sacks but...
Tom Stillman
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Aug 28, 2007
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I don't follow. Was it a sac fly or a sac bunt? Rod Nelson, baseball snob ... From: SABR_Records@yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of Tom Stillman Sent: Tuesday,...
Rod Nelson
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Aug 28, 2007
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Bill, In this case, the blasphemy is a great reminder to all of us to be extra diligent. Steve ... From: Bill Deane To: SABR_Records@yahoogroups.com Sent:...
Steve and Joyce Hatcher
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Aug 27, 2007
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This also happened to a RB from the Falcons, who's name escapes me (Hampton?). And in the opposite direction. He had 1001 yards or so, and a replay review...
mjohnson
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Aug 27, 2007
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My memory was Dave Hampton of Atl made it to 1000 even late in game then ran a sweep and lost 5 yards and didn't carry the ball again that year so finished...
Clem Comly
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Aug 27, 2007
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Clem's memory is my memory, too. Steve -- Steve Gietschier Managing Editor, Research Sporting News 14500 S. Outer 40, Suite 300 Chesterfield, MO 63017-5781 314...
gietschiersteve
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Aug 27, 2007
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... future researcher might stumble on the report that Polanco's streaks were stopped at 147 games and 725 chance and assume whatever his final streak turns...
Peter Ridges
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Aug 29, 2007
12:52 pm

It is a good idea to track scoring changes and I am happy to say that Retrosheet does that when we have the information. In reality that means the last 4-5...
David W. Smith
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Aug 29, 2007
12:58 pm

Peter Ridges' suggestion of maintaining an ongoing file of scoring changes to which researchers can refer is an excellent one. Dave Smith took it a step...
Lyle Spatz
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Aug 29, 2007
1:28 pm

USA TODAY BASEBALL WEEKLY (which I believe started in 1991) used to list scoring changes each week, until it became SPORTS WEEKLY and discontinued boxscores...
Bill Deane
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Aug 30, 2007
3:39 pm

Hi Bill, I have the sports sections of all USA Today from their beginning until the early 1990's. I think I remember those scoring changes and thought at the ...
Everett Cope
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Aug 30, 2007
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Ev, This is a great idea. Since I sent my message yesterday, I have pondered this some more and I figured out a way to automate the searching of the ...
David W. Smith
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Aug 30, 2007
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Very good on all counts, and I suggest we call it "The Polanco File," in honor of the man who inspired it :-) Lyle ... From: David W. Smith To:...
Lyle Spatz
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Aug 30, 2007
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And as a variation on the Polanco list, the former Red Sox pitcher ... [from Associated Press, September 2, 2007] Bill Henry, who pitched in the majors for...
Peter Ridges
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Sep 5, 2007
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This just in: http://www.theledger.com/article/20070905/NEWS/709050475/1039 Lakeland Man Wasn't Who He Said He Was *Another big score for Dave Lambert of the...
Rod Nelson
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