Ted,

Which issue is that? Dec 2009, or Jan 2010?

I suspect scanning the article would not be legal, without permission from
Runner's World.

Have fun,
-barefoot ken bob

--- In RunningBarefoot@yahoogroups.com, Barefoot Ted <ted@...> wrote:
>
> Wow!
>
> Just got the latest issue of Runner's World with an excellent debate
> on barefoot running with Barefoot Ken Bob giving some excellent (per
> usual) answers to a very wide audience.
>
> Can I scan the article legally?
>
> BFT
>
> --
> One foot at a time. One sole at a time. One hell of a good time.
>
> Barefoot Ted's Adventures
> 956 10th Ave E #306
> Seattle, WA 98102
>
> www.BarefootTed.com
> 206-552-9144
>

Except I don't believe walking takes away from running. Fact is, I can walk all
day long, and then still run a bit, at the end of the day. On the other hand, if
I ran all day... I probably wouldn't be able to finish this sentence.

Sometimes my warm-up starts as walking. Many times I walk the dog before I go
for a run. Sometimes my dog runs for short bits during our walk.

Variety may make us less focused on running, but life is more interesting that
way.

Have fun,
-barefoot ken bob

--- In RunningBarefoot@yahoogroups.com, climbhoser@... wrote:
>
> Was thinking about Pirie today on my run and what he says actually does make
some sense.  I realize I usually have to run a moderate 2 miles just to warm up,
even for a 5K.  So, short runs are essentially over by the time I'm hitting my
stride.  I can run fast outta the gate, but my form is so off that I'm bound to
be injured from it.
>
> If I ran more, and walked less I bet it'd be easier to get on track sooner in
my runs.  Anyone else notice this?

Barefoot wandering... we're a shifty bunch... one minute we're talking about
this, the next, that.

Have fun,
-barefoot ken bob

--- In RunningBarefoot@yahoogroups.com, "spacecadet_7000" <spacecadet_7000@...>
wrote:
>
> How did we get from Gordon Pirie's book to racewalking?
> As far as I can see he was not a race walker.
...

Basically, the bare soles are the two best coaches you can get. They're with you
every step, yelling emphatically every time you do something wrong, and they're
persistent - as long as we don't imprison them.

Christopher MacDougall, the author of "Born to Run" has often said, that one of
the reasons he was able to learn to run well with minimalist footwear, was
because he had excellent coaches.

He has also said, that he learned so much more, AFTER switching to running
barefoot - and believes he would have been better off if he had started barefoot
in the first place.

Have fun,
-barefoot ken bob

--- In RunningBarefoot@yahoogroups.com, Joe Wrigley <joe@...> wrote:
...
> I'm planning to switch to real barefoot ASAP, after reading Born to Run, I
> think it would help me get the form right faster.
>
> Joe
>

Doh! I shulda known that. They always come out about a month early.

Have fun,
-barefoot ken bob

--- In RunningBarefoot@yahoogroups.com, Barefoot Ted <ted@...> wrote:
>
> February 2010
>
> On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 4:17 PM, Barefoot Ken Bob Saxton <
> KenBob@...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Ted,
> >
> > Which issue is that? Dec 2009, or Jan 2010?
> >
> > I suspect scanning the article would not be legal, without permission from
> > Runner's World.
> >
> --
> One foot at a time. One sole at a time. One hell of a good time.
>
> Barefoot Ted's Adventures
> 956 10th Ave E #306
> Seattle, WA 98102
>
> www.BarefootTed.com
> 206-552-9144
>

Scan it and share it - it's in the public's interest. And if any businessmen
want, they'll have to catch you first before they can sue you...


--- In RunningBarefoot@yahoogroups.com, Barefoot Ted <ted@...> wrote:
>
> Wow!
>
> Just got the latest issue of Runner's World with an excellent debate
> on barefoot running with Barefoot Ken Bob giving some excellent (per
> usual) answers to a very wide audience.
>
> Can I scan the article legally?
>
> BFT
>
> --
> One foot at a time. One sole at a time. One hell of a good time.
>
> Barefoot Ted's Adventures
> 956 10th Ave E #306
> Seattle, WA 98102
>
> www.BarefootTed.com
> 206-552-9144
>

I would say in wintery conditions, the choices for a newbie are:

1. keep running in clunky shoes
2. don't run at all until it's warmer, or only indoors
3. give the minimalist shoe a try

because the cold in and of itself is too much too soon for most. I certainly
understand but wouldn't advocate #1, #2 is for the very patient and is probably
the safest route, but if the runner pays attention, does the homework, and takes
it easy I don't think #3 is a bad option. The learning process is slower, but
not totally without value. And I have a bias for running outside.

OK, here's a barefoot topic wander: Gun to head, minimalist shoe outside in the
cold vs barefoot on a treadmill. Which do you choose?

Outside in a shoe for me.

Josh

--- In RunningBarefoot@yahoogroups.com, "Barefoot Ken Bob Saxton" <KenBob@...>
wrote:
>
> Basically, the bare soles are the two best coaches you can get. They're with
you every step, yelling emphatically every time you do something wrong, and
they're persistent - as long as we don't imprison them.
>
> Christopher MacDougall, the author of "Born to Run" has often said, that one
of the reasons he was able to learn to run well with minimalist footwear, was
because he had excellent coaches.
>
> He has also said, that he learned so much more, AFTER switching to running
barefoot - and believes he would have been better off if he had started barefoot
in the first place.
>
> Have fun,
> -barefoot ken bob
>
> --- In RunningBarefoot@yahoogroups.com, Joe Wrigley <joe@> wrote:
> ...
> > I'm planning to switch to real barefoot ASAP, after reading Born to Run, I
> > think it would help me get the form right faster.
> >
> > Joe
> >
>

i could never be a racewalker. First, its pretty hard stuff to maintain for very
long! Second, I just can't get used to the rubber-legs / greased hips look.

Ryan



--- In RunningBarefoot@yahoogroups.com, michae <heymichae@...> wrote:
>
> well, thanks for that info, i guess my career as a race walker ends before it
begins... :(
>
>
>  
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: rowrun99 <peterplimpton@...>
> To: RunningBarefoot@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wed, December 30, 2009 12:23:15 PM
> Subject: [RunningBarefoot] Re: Pirie Rule #5: Walking damages running
>
>  
> Yes, you're right about one foot in contact with the ground at all times.
>
> The USATF has two rules for racewalking:
> 1) Race walking is a progression of steps so taken that the walker makes
contact with the ground so that no visible (to the human eye) loss of contact
occurs.
>
> 2) The advancing leg must be straightened (i.e., not bent at the knee) from
the moment of first contact with the ground until in the vertical upright
position.
>
> When I've tried to racewalk in barefeet, my heels start to complain pretty
quickly... and come to think of it my toes would be whining soon after.
Racewalkers push against the ground with their toes. Barefoot runners do not. At
least that's my understanding.
>
> That's why I figure that you probably won't see a packs of barefoot
racewalkers racing around Green Lake any time soon...
>
> Incidently my sense is that people are trying out barefoot running because
with proper technique their knees (and other related body parts) don't hurt any
more. That's the same reason many people like racewalking. In both cases there
is much less pounding on the skeleton.
>
> --- In RunningBarefoot@ yahoogroups. com, michae <heymichae@ ..> wrote:
> >
> > my understanding is walking is always having at least one foot on the
ground...in the race walking crowd, so any walking is good.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ____________ _________ _________ __
> > From: rowrun99 <peterplimpton@ ...>
> > To: RunningBarefoot@ yahoogroups. com
> > Sent: Tue, December 29, 2009 7:42:45 PM
> > Subject: [RunningBarefoot] Re: Pirie Rule #5: Walking damages running
> >
> >  
> > Racewalkers I know use running as cross training for their racewalking.
Racewalking technique definately involves landing on your heal with a straight
leg. Barefoot racewalking is probably not a realistic pursuit... Barefoot
walking where you land on your whole foot with bent knees seems like a
reasonable thing. The racewalking judges would you pull you off the course
though...
> >
> > For lots of info on racewalking, go to racewalk.com
> >
> > Peter
> >
> > --- In RunningBarefoot@ yahoogroups. com, "Barefoot Ken Bob Saxton"
<KenBob@> wrote:
> > >
> > > As spacecadet_7000 said,
> > > 'I disagree with his definition of walking. "(Walking is landing on the
> > > heels with a straight leg)"'
> > > While it is true that you can learn more from a world class (anything).
> > > In this case, Pririe is talking about walking, on which, he apparently
> > > is not a world class walker... (except maybe the artificially
> > > constrained technique of race-walking) .
> > >
> > > I actually do practice many of my running techniques while walking, even
> > > while standing. And, like rough hard surfaces, I think folks who are
> > > beginning to run barefoot should do as well, rather than attempting to
> > > start running distances before they've played and experimented with
> > > various components of standing, walking, and running techniques, as an
> > > infant would do before beginning to put in the miles...
> > >
> > > I do agree with Yanni, however that it is a good idea to read and hear
> > > from world class runners. But, as with anything I, or anyone else says,
> > > or writes, it is up to you to test what they teach you and see if it
> > > works for you.
> > >
> > > Have fun,
> > > -barefoot ken bob
> > >
> > > --- In RunningBarefoot@ yahoogroups. com, "yanni papastavrou"
> > > <yannipapastavrou@ > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I think there's a grain of truth there..
> > > > Let's consider the converse:
> > > > "Walking improves running."
> > > > I do not personally find it does. Strangely, I STILL find walking to
> > > be more difficult a technique than running. And, I don't really find
> > > that by working on my walking form, that it helps my running in any way,
> > > indeed, perhaps it does actually make my running form worse!
> > > >
> > > > I agree with much of what Pirie says, apart from his workout
> > > schedules, which insane for me - they are for super-elite, world record
> > > setting athletes. But, if you want to learn something well as a
> > > beginner, it is often wise to read and seek coaching from the very best,
> > > provided they are also a gifted teacher.
> > > >
> > > > As a classically trained musician, I learned far more in a couple of
> > > one hour lessons with a world-class musician than from several years
> > > with a mediocre musician. Indeed, my playing was revolutionised.
> > > >
> > > > Yanni.
> > > > Barefoot runner since December 2004.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In RunningBarefoot@ yahoogroups. com, "Barefoot Ken Bob Saxton"
> > > KenBob@ wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Take it with a grain of salt, if the author does not explain their
> > > reasons, they may or may not apply to your, or my, situation. Gordon
> > > Pririe was a world record setting runner. His goals are far beyond the
> > > joy of running most of us seek.
> > > > >
> > > > > Have fun,
> > > > > -barefoot ken bob
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In RunningBarefoot@ yahoogroups. com, "inkyd@" <sutcliffe@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I've been meaning to ask this ever since I read the book:
> > > > > >
> > > http://www.scribd. com/doc/18228/ Gordon-Piries- Running-Fast- and-Injury-
Fr\
> > > ee-ultimate- edition-240307
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I don't remember him elaborating on this. Does anyone know what he
> > > means?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I know I like rule #1: Running with correct technique (even with a
> > > prepared bare foot), on any surface, is injury free.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Josh
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

I make my own shoe.    Kinda.

I have a flat soled rubber outter shoe (galoshes)
I buy a batt of wool, make felt, and use that inside the
galoshes.

Great ground feel, warm, dry. Best shoe I ever tried.

I walk during the cold months, not run. (I generally run 3 to 5 miles
when warm) I walk in the barefoot fashion, no heel strikes for me.


--- In RunningBarefoot@yahoogroups.com, "inkyd@..." <sutcliffe@...> wrote:
>
> I would say in wintery conditions, the choices for a newbie are:
>
> 1. keep running in clunky shoes
> 2. don't run at all until it's warmer, or only indoors
> 3. give the minimalist shoe a try
>
> because the cold in and of itself is too much too soon for most. I certainly
understand but wouldn't advocate #1, #2 is for the very patient and is probably
the safest route, but if the runner pays attention, does the homework, and takes
it easy I don't think #3 is a bad option. The learning process is slower, but
not totally without value. And I have a bias for running outside.
>
> OK, here's a barefoot topic wander: Gun to head, minimalist shoe outside in
the cold vs barefoot on a treadmill. Which do you choose?
>
> Outside in a shoe for me.
>
> Josh
>
> --- In RunningBarefoot@yahoogroups.com, "Barefoot Ken Bob Saxton" <KenBob@>
wrote:
> >
> > Basically, the bare soles are the two best coaches you can get. They're with
you every step, yelling emphatically every time you do something wrong, and
they're persistent - as long as we don't imprison them.
> >
> > Christopher MacDougall, the author of "Born to Run" has often said, that one
of the reasons he was able to learn to run well with minimalist footwear, was
because he had excellent coaches.
> >
> > He has also said, that he learned so much more, AFTER switching to running
barefoot - and believes he would have been better off if he had started barefoot
in the first place.
> >
> > Have fun,
> > -barefoot ken bob
> >
> > --- In RunningBarefoot@yahoogroups.com, Joe Wrigley <joe@> wrote:
> > ...
> > > I'm planning to switch to real barefoot ASAP, after reading Born to Run, I
> > > think it would help me get the form right faster.
> > >
> > > Joe
> > >
> >
>

I would disagree.  I made by biggest break through in barefoot running during
the winter a couple of years ago.

Running barefoot in the winter for a newbie is an option.

You can run in the winter barefoot, even as a newbie, if:

1. you are not driven to push, push, push.  In other words you must put your
body and environment first, not your goal.  If you can't say: screw the goal,
I'm going home, it's too cold, then don't run in the winter, you'll loose toes.

2. you dress properly -- lots of cloths, hat, gloves, etc.  Cover everything
except the feet.  Look at the temps, and dress for 10-20 degrees colder.

3. start short and slow.  The first time go out for no more than 5-10 minutes. 
Perhaps a block, or a mile.  Then slowly extend it.

4. If you can break away in the middle of the day then run at noon, if not try
the evenings.

One of the advantages of starting in the winter seems to be:
1. You are absolutely forced to go short, it's a great time to heal from
injuries and burnout if you have it.
2. When running in the cold the bottom of the foot seems to respond by adding
fat and getting thicker in a soft sort of way, probably to compensate for the
cold.
3. You'll be able to ramp up sooner in the spring because those nice 34F temps
suddenly feel so warm and comfortable.

Anyway these are my thoughts.

Barefoot Brian


--- In RunningBarefoot@yahoogroups.com, "inkyd@..." <sutcliffe@...> wrote:
>
> I would say in wintery conditions, the choices for a newbie are:
>
> 1. keep running in clunky shoes
> 2. don't run at all until it's warmer, or only indoors
> 3. give the minimalist shoe a try
>
> because the cold in and of itself is too much too soon for most. I certainly
understand but wouldn't advocate #1, #2 is for the very patient and is probably
the safest route, but if the runner pays attention, does the homework, and takes
it easy I don't think #3 is a bad option. The learning process is slower, but
not totally without value. And I have a bias for running outside.
>
> OK, here's a barefoot topic wander: Gun to head, minimalist shoe outside in
the cold vs barefoot on a treadmill. Which do you choose?
>
> Outside in a shoe for me.
>
> Josh
>
> --- In RunningBarefoot@yahoogroups.com, "Barefoot Ken Bob Saxton" <KenBob@>
wrote:
> >
> > Basically, the bare soles are the two best coaches you can get. They're with
you every step, yelling emphatically every time you do something wrong, and
they're persistent - as long as we don't imprison them.
> >
> > Christopher MacDougall, the author of "Born to Run" has often said, that one
of the reasons he was able to learn to run well with minimalist footwear, was
because he had excellent coaches.
> >
> > He has also said, that he learned so much more, AFTER switching to running
barefoot - and believes he would have been better off if he had started barefoot
in the first place.
> >
> > Have fun,
> > -barefoot ken bob
> >
> > --- In RunningBarefoot@yahoogroups.com, Joe Wrigley <joe@> wrote:
> > ...
> > > I'm planning to switch to real barefoot ASAP, after reading Born to Run, I
> > > think it would help me get the form right faster.
> > >
> > > Joe
> > >
> >
>

Outside, LOL. You'd have to point the gun at me to get me on the dreadmill.

We unfortunately have a lot of cold and snow this year, so the moccasins and
neoprene socks have been getting a workout. Running trails on snow and ice
without any tread on your shoes and an ultra flexible sole is an incredible
workout and great balance/form training. It's really fun, too. I highly
recommend it.

Gordon

--- In RunningBarefoot@yahoogroups.com, "inkyd@..." <sutcliffe@...> wrote:
>
> OK, here's a barefoot topic wander: Gun to head, minimalist shoe outside in
the cold vs barefoot on a treadmill. Which do you choose?
>

I'd also ask "How good is my circulation?".

I've always had poor circulation to my hands and feet. I don't know why. Maybe
it's the low BP. Maybe it's genetic. I have much better luck starting out in
moccasins and then taking them off after a mile or two than I have starting out
BF. I can end up running BF comfortably that way. If I start BF in the same
temps, my feet go numb and never warm up. It's weird.

I'd throw in some temps, but for me, it also depends a lot on the ground
temperature. Going out at 30F in the morning in the middle of winter when it got
into single digits overnight is a whole different animal than going out at 30F
in the fall when it's been warm all summer. I'll leave it to the reader to
figure out which is more comfortable. :)

My first winter, I pushed it way too hard. Ended up with chilblains. Now I'm
pretty conservative, since I've figured out that my brain is capable of writing
checks that my body can't cash. Take it easy and find your limits by inching up
to them, but by all means give it a try. Your limits will differ from anyone
elses so don't pressure yourself.

Gordon

--- In RunningBarefoot@yahoogroups.com, "sls1j" <brian.dickey@...> wrote:
>
> I would disagree.  I made by biggest break through in barefoot running during
the winter a couple of years ago.
>
> Running barefoot in the winter for a newbie is an option.
>
> You can run in the winter barefoot, even as a newbie, if:
>
> 1. you are not driven to push, push, push.  In other words you must put your
body and environment first, not your goal.  If you can't say: screw the goal,
I'm going home, it's too cold, then don't run in the winter, you'll loose toes.
>
> 2. you dress properly -- lots of cloths, hat, gloves, etc.  Cover everything
except the feet.  Look at the temps, and dress for 10-20 degrees colder.
>
> 3. start short and slow.  The first time go out for no more than 5-10 minutes.
Perhaps a block, or a mile.  Then slowly extend it.
>
> 4. If you can break away in the middle of the day then run at noon, if not try
the evenings.
>
> One of the advantages of starting in the winter seems to be:
> 1. You are absolutely forced to go short, it's a great time to heal from
injuries and burnout if you have it.
> 2. When running in the cold the bottom of the foot seems to respond by adding
fat and getting thicker in a soft sort of way, probably to compensate for the
cold.
> 3. You'll be able to ramp up sooner in the spring because those nice 34F temps
suddenly feel so warm and comfortable.
>
> Anyway these are my thoughts.
>
> Barefoot Brian
>
>
> --- In RunningBarefoot@yahoogroups.com, "inkyd@" <sutcliffe@> wrote:
> >
> > I would say in wintery conditions, the choices for a newbie are:
> >
> > 1. keep running in clunky shoes
> > 2. don't run at all until it's warmer, or only indoors
> > 3. give the minimalist shoe a try
> >
> > because the cold in and of itself is too much too soon for most. I certainly
understand but wouldn't advocate #1, #2 is for the very patient and is probably
the safest route, but if the runner pays attention, does the homework, and takes
it easy I don't think #3 is a bad option. The learning process is slower, but
not totally without value. And I have a bias for running outside.
> >
> > OK, here's a barefoot topic wander: Gun to head, minimalist shoe outside in
the cold vs barefoot on a treadmill. Which do you choose?
> >
> > Outside in a shoe for me.
> >
> > Josh
> >
> > --- In RunningBarefoot@yahoogroups.com, "Barefoot Ken Bob Saxton" <KenBob@>
wrote:
> > >
> > > Basically, the bare soles are the two best coaches you can get. They're
with you every step, yelling emphatically every time you do something wrong, and
they're persistent - as long as we don't imprison them.
> > >
> > > Christopher MacDougall, the author of "Born to Run" has often said, that
one of the reasons he was able to learn to run well with minimalist footwear,
was because he had excellent coaches.
> > >
> > > He has also said, that he learned so much more, AFTER switching to running
barefoot - and believes he would have been better off if he had started barefoot
in the first place.
> > >
> > > Have fun,
> > > -barefoot ken bob
> > >
> > > --- In RunningBarefoot@yahoogroups.com, Joe Wrigley <joe@> wrote:
> > > ...
> > > > I'm planning to switch to real barefoot ASAP, after reading Born to Run,
I
> > > > think it would help me get the form right faster.
> > > >
> > > > Joe
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

What a year this has been! First of all, I met my goal of 50+ barefoot miles a
week on average totalling 2,604.93 barefoot miles for the year (15,447.65 total
BF miles since 10/21/03). Not only did I run everyday barefoot outside in all
types of weather this year, but tomorrow (January 1) will be my 888th
consecutive day of running barefoot without missing a day!

I ran 8 marathons and one ultra of 40+ miles, all barefoot. (In January, I am
planning on running my 50th barefoot marathon and my 68th overall.)

Also, of even greater importance, we raised several thousand dollars in 2009 for
the Free Wheelchair Mission through Soles for Souls. Because of generous
benefactors, we were able to help scores of folks up off the ground and into a
place of dignity (for more info, see http://barefootrunner.org/fwcm/fwcm.htm).

And, I am appreciative of the opportunities to speak at various venues this past
year about barefoot running and why I continue to do so. (My next opportunity
will be at the Waco Miracle Match Marathon on Jan. 30.)

Here is a complete review of 2009 including more stats and media opportunites.

http://www.barefootrunner.org/09review.htm

Have a blessed and prosperous barefoot 2010!!!

Rick

Congratulations.  This is very inspiring!!


Well, I am very happy to report that I ran 2 miles BF today (calf
muscles allllllmost completely healed).   And I was really enjoying
it ..... but did get some abrasion/scraping off of skin under my
right foot.  Hmmmm, guess I'm not landing lightly enough yet ???


Looking forward to continuing,


Jan



On Dec 31, 2009, at 11:20 AM, Barefoot Rick wrote:

> What a year this has been! First of all, I met my goal of 50+
> barefoot miles a week on average totalling 2,604.93 barefoot miles
> for the year (15,447.65 total BF miles since 10/21/03). Not only
> did I run everyday barefoot outside in all types of weather this
> year, but tomorrow (January 1) will be my 888th consecutive day of
> running barefoot without missing a day!
>
> I ran 8 marathons and one ultra of 40+ miles, all barefoot. (In
> January, I am planning on running my 50th barefoot marathon and my
> 68th overall.)
>
> Also, of even greater importance, we raised several thousand
> dollars in 2009 for the Free Wheelchair Mission through Soles for
> Souls. Because of generous benefactors, we were able to help scores
> of folks up off the ground and into a place of dignity (for more
> info, see http://barefootrunner.org/fwcm/fwcm.htm).
>
> And, I am appreciative of the opportunities to speak at various
> venues this past year about barefoot running and why I continue to
> do so. (My next opportunity will be at the Waco Miracle Match
> Marathon on Jan. 30.)
>
> Here is a complete review of 2009 including more stats and media
> opportunites.
>
> http://www.barefootrunner.org/09review.htm
>
> Have a blessed and prosperous barefoot 2010!!!
>
> Rick
>
>

I saw Avatar for the second time last night. Love it!

Lots of great barefooting examples going on. The indigenous people have a big
gap between their first two toes, and it almost appears to be used for gripping.

Ryan

Rick --

I am so grateful to have gotten to know you through this chat group. Its
inspiring to see how you have taken your running activities to a higher level of
service towards others. You exemplify a truth often repeated among members of my
faith:

"... when ye are in the service of your fellow beings ye are only in the service
of your God."

Blessings and success to you in 2010!

Ryan



--- In RunningBarefoot@yahoogroups.com, "Barefoot Rick" <barefootrick@...>
wrote:
>
> What a year this has been! First of all, I met my goal of 50+ barefoot miles a
week on average totalling 2,604.93 barefoot miles for the year (15,447.65 total
BF miles since 10/21/03). Not only did I run everyday barefoot outside in all
types of weather this year, but tomorrow (January 1) will be my 888th
consecutive day of running barefoot without missing a day!
>
> I ran 8 marathons and one ultra of 40+ miles, all barefoot. (In January, I am
planning on running my 50th barefoot marathon and my 68th overall.)
>
> Also, of even greater importance, we raised several thousand dollars in 2009
for the Free Wheelchair Mission through Soles for Souls. Because of generous
benefactors, we were able to help scores of folks up off the ground and into a
place of dignity (for more info, see http://barefootrunner.org/fwcm/fwcm.htm).
>
> And, I am appreciative of the opportunities to speak at various venues this
past year about barefoot running and why I continue to do so. (My next
opportunity will be at the Waco Miracle Match Marathon on Jan. 30.)
>
> Here is a complete review of 2009 including more stats and media opportunites.
>
> http://www.barefootrunner.org/09review.htm
>
> Have a blessed and prosperous barefoot 2010!!!
>
> Rick
>

Brian -

You make excellent points. And physically, I would agree it's possible to learn
to run barefoot in the winter, and even be better off for it. However, that's a
LOT of information and discomfort thrown at someone all at once. I think the
mental adjustment would be very hard for most people. I'm not sure many runners
with the enthusiasm to try going shoeless in the winter are going to have the
patience to not push it.

It's one of those know thyself kind of things, I guess.

Josh

--- In RunningBarefoot@yahoogroups.com, "sls1j" <brian.dickey@...> wrote:
>
> I would disagree.  I made by biggest break through in barefoot running during
the winter a couple of years ago.
>
> Running barefoot in the winter for a newbie is an option.
>
> You can run in the winter barefoot, even as a newbie, if:
>
> 1. you are not driven to push, push, push.  In other words you must put your
body and environment first, not your goal.  If you can't say: screw the goal,
I'm going home, it's too cold, then don't run in the winter, you'll loose toes.
>
> 2. you dress properly -- lots of cloths, hat, gloves, etc.  Cover everything
except the feet.  Look at the temps, and dress for 10-20 degrees colder.
>
> 3. start short and slow.  The first time go out for no more than 5-10 minutes.
Perhaps a block, or a mile.  Then slowly extend it.
>
> 4. If you can break away in the middle of the day then run at noon, if not try
the evenings.
>
> One of the advantages of starting in the winter seems to be:
> 1. You are absolutely forced to go short, it's a great time to heal from
injuries and burnout if you have it.
> 2. When running in the cold the bottom of the foot seems to respond by adding
fat and getting thicker in a soft sort of way, probably to compensate for the
cold.
> 3. You'll be able to ramp up sooner in the spring because those nice 34F temps
suddenly feel so warm and comfortable.
>
> Anyway these are my thoughts.
>
> Barefoot Brian
>

It was great.

The animation was a million times better than the crap they had on PBS. The
motion of the characters was totally believable, and they were running, jumping,
and climbing, not just trotting along on the level. To be fair, the film
probably had a budget exceeding the yearly budget for PBS. Very impressive. Good
story, too. I can live with a tree-hugger message as long as there's lots of
violence involved. :))

Warning -  if you've got mono-vision, you should go to the 2D version unless you
enjoy being carsick.

Gordon

--- In RunningBarefoot@yahoogroups.com, "Ryan W" <ardydub@...> wrote:
>
> I saw Avatar for the second time last night. Love it!
>
> Lots of great barefooting examples going on. The indigenous people have a big
gap between their first two toes, and it almost appears to be used for gripping.
>
> Ryan
>

----- Original Message -----

From: michae

To: RunningBarefoot@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 12:57 AM

Subject: Re: [RunningBarefoot] Re: ninja toe socks

 

i remember a woman from alaska qualified for the olympic trials, several olympics ago, in the marathon.  I think over half of her training was on a treadmill, not everyone hates em, and they definately do some people right...some like two of my brothers actually prefer treadmill to running outside, and don't count out the trippy nature when first disembarking from the treadmill, where the slowest walking seems like speeded up surreal tripland.

 

michae

---

From: "inkyd@rocketmail.com" <sutcliffe@gmail.com>
To: RunningBarefoot@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, December 30, 2009 7:59:12 PM
Subject: [RunningBarefoot] Re: ninja toe socks

 

I would say in wintery conditions, the choices for a newbie are:

1. keep running in clunky shoes
2. don't run at all until it's warmer, or only indoors
3. give the minimalist shoe a try

because the cold in and of itself is too much too soon for most. I certainly understand but wouldn't advocate #1, #2 is for the very patient and is probably the safest route, but if the runner pays attention, does the homework, and takes it easy I don't think #3 is a bad option. The learning process is slower, but not totally without value. And I have a bias for running outside.

OK, here's a barefoot topic wander: Gun to head, minimalist shoe outside in the cold vs barefoot on a treadmill. Which do you choose?

Outside in a shoe for me.

Josh

--- In RunningBarefoot@ yahoogroups. com, "Barefoot Ken Bob Saxton" <KenBob@...> wrote:
>
> Basically, the bare soles are the two best coaches you can get. They're with you every step, yelling emphatically every time you do something wrong, and they're persistent - as long as we don't imprison them.
>
> Christopher MacDougall, the author of "Born to Run" has often said, that one of the reasons he was able to learn to run well with minimalist footwear, was because he had excellent coaches.
>
> He has also said, that he learned so much more, AFTER switching to running barefoot - and believes he would have been better off if he had started barefoot in the first place.
>
> Have fun,
> -barefoot ken bob
>
> --- In RunningBarefoot@ yahoogroups. com, Joe Wrigley <joe@> wrote:
> ...
> > I'm planning to switch to real barefoot ASAP, after reading Born to Run, I
> > think it would help me get the form right faster.
> >
> > Joe
> >
>

Photos posted;
http://runningbarefoot.org/?p=2818

Happy New Year,
-Barefoot ken bob