Just wanted to let Ken know he saved my knees(and feet!). I am doing
everything possible to get the message out here in Indiana. I would
like to organize a barefoot fun run this fall. Any other barefooters
in Columbus IN?

Cheers Alan.

Roath Park is a bit far for me, I usually go down to the Hamadryad,
which is a new park where the Taff goes out into the Bay.

I went up along the Taff Trail yesterday (along a wedge of parkland
following a river right into the city centre). Its a fantastic fun -
in the space of a mile I go past Cardiff Castle, the Millennium
Stadium, and a brewery. I pulled my shoes off for a while. After heavy
rain there were lots of puddles, but the tarmac and the water felt so
wonderfully warm I ended up running much further than I had planned -
about 3 and a half miles.

After going such a distance, my legs still "remembered" the motion as
I walked to warm down afterwards, which was a strange feeling, but it
really helped.

My knees were sore again afterwards - I'm sure I'm still landing too
heavily. I'll read Ken Bob's articles again.

My Nike Frees require the same style of running, but they still have a
lot of padding, and I'm wondering if this is in fact interfering with
learning to run barefoot.
--
Paddy

--- In RunningBarefoot@yahoogroups.com, "Alan Rogers"
<Onemassiveone@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Paddy
>              I am no expert but being a "Newbie" I have found Ken
Bob Saxtons articles Well worth reading a Few times over.
> I try to make my foot contact with the ground as light as possible
.I do have to do a bit of experimenting.
> I am trying to remember what Roath park was like ..I know it wasn't
smooth..Any way Cardiff has a lot of Park and Recreational Ground no
shortage of different surfaces to try out.
>  I have a 1 1/2 mile course of fairly recently resurfaced country
lane (Around Bere Regis. Dorset) that I run on just to improve my
technique, Its horrible to run on, but at least by relaxing and
adjusting my pace and getting the ball of my foot to make initial
contact as lightly as possible I am able to enjoy myself (I still
havent found a way around them self adheasive stones yet) but every
time I go it gets easier .
>  I hope that Barefoot  is the key to bringing the "Fun" factor into
your running.
>

>
> Alan.

You guys are always an encouragement.  Although I've
been a bit disappointed with my barefoot abilities in
the Colorado mountains during this, my first, year of
barefooting, you guys always give me hope that in a
couple more years (or so) I'll be able to do what you
do.

peace,

kddubb

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I would be game for that.

I'm across the river in Louisville, KY.  The 50 mile drive would be
worth it.

--- In RunningBarefoot@yahoogroups.com, "z3nrunn3r" <z3nrunn3r@...>
wrote:
>
> Just wanted to let Ken know he saved my knees(and feet!). I am doing
> everything possible to get the message out here in Indiana. I would
> like to organize a barefoot fun run this fall. Any other barefooters
> in Columbus IN?
>

Hello.  I've been running barefoot in Albuquerque, New Mexico for two
and a half weeks now.  I'm doing a mile or two on grass and sidewalk
with slightly sore calves and hams; not sure if I'm not relaxing enough
or just not in shape yet, probably some of both.  Had some minor
blisters on both big toes after the first days, but my soles are OK now.

I'm hoping to get my feet in shape for a 5K in October.  Sidewalk isn't
too much trouble, but asphalt is difficult, especially because it tends
to have small rocks that stick to my feet, so we'll see.

I've been a shod runner for about ten years now, though the past few
years have been off and on and without many races.

Inspirational ascii art:

       ()
       ( \
        ) `----
       (_,-----

--
Patrick Mahoney <pat@...>

"Some people (often calling themselves "barefooters") enjoy the
sensation of their feet in direct contact with the ground and make
an effort to go barefoot whenever possible. People who self-identify
as "barefooters" tend to be those living in developed countries
where going barefoot becomes a symbol of freedom and health among
other things. In developing countries, going barefoot is not
regarded as status symbol as it is in the west. (From: Wikipedia,
the free encyclopedia)

I'm living in India – it's almost six years now that I've left
Europe for good – and I'm used to a life on bare soles: I haven't
worn shoes since December 2000 (with a few exceptions!) and I don't
think I'll EVER imprison my feet again! I'm always barefoot: All-
year-round, wherever I go, whatever I do. Most of my friends have
never seen me wearing shoes…

WHY? That's a question I've heard a thousand times. Well, it's not a
kind of "fashion statement"… Yes: There are quite a few "barefoot
celebrities! Model Travis Fimmel not only does most of his modeling
in bare feet, but says he goes barefoot almost exclusively. Singer
Henry Rollins often performs barefoot on stage. Singer Lenny Kravitz
has said he feels no need to wear shoes or socks. Singer Richard
Ashcroft appeared barefoot on stage at Live8. Actor Sean Astin
arrived at a film premiere in bare feet. Actress Julia Roberts is
known as a person who loves to be barefoot. She has appeared
barefoot in several of her movies. Actresses Liv Tyler, Nicole
Kidman and Cameron Diaz have walked barefoot on the red carpet at
their own movie-premieres. Model Pamela Anderson is often seen in
magazines, walking around barefoot in her hometown. Singer Shakira
is often barefoot on stage, as well as in her music videos. Singer
Deana Carter performs barefoot. Same with Joss Stone, Kelly
Clarkson, Mandy Moore… Britney Spears gained some notoriety by going
barefoot into a public restroom. She has since frequently been seen
going barefoot. Designer Genevieve Gorder almost always went
barefoot during the series Trading Spaces on TLC. Zola Budd often
ran barefoot in competition… No doubt: Barefoot is "in"! But if it
comes to ME: It's not very important that wearing no shoes is
fashionable! I've different reasons for "keeping `em bare"…

Walking barefoot is AMAZING!!! If you're barefoot you're able to
FEEL the ground! Would you wear gloves all-year-round? Nopes! So:
Why shoes? Being in touch with Mother Earth, letting the energy flow
freely isn't that bad, after all… Right? Plus: It's very refreshing
and stimulating (ever heard about the reflex zones in our feet?)!
Join me for a rather longish hike, preferably in the mountains, and
let's see who gets tired first! Walking barefoot is stimulating: In
every sense! There's more: The ecological impact is far less
dramatic (erosion!) if you're hiking in a natural environment (ever
thought about what your heavy hiking boots do to the ecosystem?).
It's also communicative to a degree you wouldn't expect: Travelling
a lot I've made more than one friend explaining WHY I'm roaming
around barefoot! Somehow you're more defensive, less aggressive if
barefoot… There are many aspects, but what really counts is the
sensual factor: The "barefoot feeling"! It's not only about feeling
the ground beneath our soles, every change in texture or
temperature, the difference between lawn and concrete, tar and
marble, but also about feeling free – in many ways! If you don't
know what I mean: Leave your shoes at home and experience the
freedom, the freshness, the air touching every inch of your feet…
Try it once and you'll never want to wear those "little prisons"
again!

How did it all begin? I've been barefoot since my schooldays, but
not every day, not everywhere… It was a winter morning back in 2000,
just after Christmas: I was ready to board my flight to India. My
feet were already bare while I was waiting for the train which would
take me to the airport. The air was a bit chilly, and I noticed a
couple of people, staring at my feet, obviously unable to believe
what they saw: A pair of bare feet, decorated with a leather-anklet
and a shiny little toering… I didn't know that I was about to leave
Europe for good, returning only occasionally for short visits. But I
was ready for the big adventure: Spending many month on the road,
exploring almost every nook and corner of India on my bare soles –
from Kanyakumari to Gangtok and from Gujarat to West Bengal… It was
SO much fun! I didn't even carry any shoes in my backpack, and soon,
my soles were tough as leather! Finally, the unexpected happened: I
managed to settle down in India! I've been able to live my life
barefoot ever since…

India – it STILL means: Bare feet EVERYWHERE, especially in rural
areas and the South, but also in cities and parts of the North! And
I don't think that will change within a lifetime! Half of the people
in my neighbourhood (a typical "mixed area" in Bangalore - with
modern houses and traditional enclaves side-by-side) are barefoot
throughout the year! Dusty bare feet, immune to the heat of the
summer, to sharp gravel and other hazards are so common a sight that
you'll hardly notice them anymore after a month or so. It's true:
I'm still getting attention for my lack of footwear, but not because
I'm barefoot but because I'm a FOREIGNER ("ferengi") who is
barefoot. And reactions are almost always positive…

Living barefoot 24/7/365 I'm spending lot's of time travelling, and
I'm ALWAYS travelling barefoot. It's an exciting experience to roam
around without any footwear in my backpack, trusting in my leather-
like soles toughened over many years. And it's definitely the most
environment-friendly way of travelling, especially if it comes to
activities like hiking in ecologically sensitive regions (e.g. the
Indian Himalayas)! For those of you being concerned about health
issues: I'm living barefoot for more than six years now, and I
didn't face ANY problem – except having to remove a little thorn
from time to time, but even that happens rarely!

The mere thought that somebody out there enjoys travelling
throughout India – and many other countries! - without ever wearing
any kind of footwear (except one or two anklets and a toe ring!)
might seem strange for some of you… But giving it a second thought
you might even get inspired! Inspiring you to give it a try, to
experience the joys and the freedom of travelling - and living -
barefoot – that's my goal, that's why I'm posting this! Is
travelling barefoot difficult? And is it worth it? To answer these
questions, let me share my latest barefoot experiences with you:

Four days ago: It's time for my annual trip to Europe! I'm leaving
Bangalore early in the morning (at 6 am), happy to escape the South
Indian monsoon – which wasn't really impressive so far, but things
might change in August! My flight with Gulf Air involves a 24 hours
stopover in Muscat, Oman. I'm boarding the flight barefoot – as
usual and without the slightest problem. Arriving in Muscat, I'm
told that passengers are entitled to stay at the Holiday Inn for
free (transfer and meals included!). Leaving my luggage in the room,
I'm spending the whole day (from 9:30 am to 8 pm) in Muscat.
Exploring Old Muscat with the palace and several forts is
interesting, but the real fun starts in Muthra: The harbour and
bazaar are waiting for me, a maze of alleys and shops, bustling with
vendors, locals and a few foreign tourists. It's a hot day with
temperatures well above 40° C, but I'm used to the South Indian
summer – and so are my tough soles! Many shops in Muthra are owned
by Indians, Pakistanis or Bangladeshis. They're a friendly bunch,
well-versed in English and always curious to know why I'm wearing no
shoes – and how I can possibly stand the hot tarmac! Passing by a
cyber-café, I'm invited to rest a while, enjoying the – quite
effective – AC. The next 10 minutes or so I'm busy to explain the
young owner from North India why it is so much fun to walk barefoot
in the streets of Muscat. Soon, the whole staff gathers around us,
listening to his translation and asking additional questions… Only
20 minutes later: A fruit- and vegetable vendor from Bangladesh asks
me: "How do you manage to be barefoot? It is SO HOT outside! He
serves me a Mountain Dew while I'm convincing him that neither the
heat nor little pieces of glass etc. are a serious threat for me –
not after having spent more than six years on bare soles! He smiles,
replying "you're a tough man" – and wishes me all the best. Some
people I meet are so curious that they ask me to show them my ultra-
tough soles, and a young lad (chatting with a group of guys in their
late teens) even pinches the leather-like skin … It's a remarkable
day, and I experience again what I've already noticed countless
times: Roaming around barefoot is VERY communicative – and a good
way to make new friends!

Here's another example – a posting I've made some time ago:

"Recently I went for some extensive hiking in the Indian Himalayas.
I know: Many of you wouldn't even think about walking barefoot up
there! But believe me: It was SO much fun! I didn't carry any shoes,
not even in my backpack. I enjoyed every minute of the trip on my
bare soles… The trek to the source of the Ganges river was a special
experience: 36 km (18 km one way) of mountain trails, two nights in
an open tent… Climbing over countless rocks, wading through ice-cold
rivulets… Crossing little patches of snow… Many interesting
sensations for my well-trained bare feet! Yes, it's all about
additional sensual experiences – that's what makes living,
travelling and hiking barefoot so special! Feeling the rough granite
beneath my soles, crossing a muddy meadow, patches of snow and
little streams providing some refreshment… Tired feet are unknown to
me, even after many kilometres of brisk hiking! That's one big
advantage of hiking barefoot… And there is the way I experience
temperature: Nights are quite chilly up there (the thermometer once
dropped to -2 ° C), but during daytime, things change quickly as
soon as the first rays of the sun are touching the ground! It's
amazing to be able to FEEL the difference between a shady and sunny
section of the trail! What else? There are the "encounters" – with
other tourists, with locals, with pilgrims from all-over India… Some
funny comments… On the way up to the source of the Ganges, 1 km
before reaching the mighty glacier from where the stream origins, I
asked a tourist if I was still on the right way. He replied that
I'll reach my destination soon – adding: "If your bare feet are
strong enough"! I was spending the night in an open tent together
with other hikers. The morning was quite chilly, and while having a
cup of chai, a girl from Tel Aviv admired my ability to "stay bare"
in the cold! She told me she would love to do the hike barefoot too,
and I assured her that after a few weeks of travelling barefoot,
she'll be able to do things like that without ever having to bother
about her feet. On my way back I passed a couple in their early
30ies. The husband looked a bit surprised, spotting my tanned bare
feet, but his wife gave me a big smile, saying: "Barefoot – that's
great". Reaching the little town of Gangotri, the sky became more
and more cloudy (after three days of almost uninterrupted sunshine),
and the next morning it was rainy with temperatures below 10 ° C.
Mine where the only pair of bare feet in the whole town (apart from
some sadhus!), and I got many comments, both from tourists and
Indians: "Where are your shoes?", "That must be cold", "You'll catch
a cold" and things like that… More than one shopkeeper desperately
tried to sell me a pair of sandals, even following me a few metre
out in the rain… I didn't care, and after 20 to 30 minutes of more
or less brisk walking, my well-trained feet managed to adjust to the
cold, a healthy reddish complexion and warm feeling assuring me that
everything was all right! Only three month later, my leathery soles
got exposed to the hot streets of South India! It's true: Black
tarmac can get quite hot on a sunny day. But being an experienced
long-time barefooter, I'm even able to stroll around at noon or in
the early afternoon without feeling uncomfortable. And obviously,
I'm not the only one: Visit Kerala or Tamil Nadu and you'll see
loads of barefoot people in the streets, especially in rural areas
but also in the cities! I've met people (online, not on the road)
trying to convince me that my barefoot lifestyle is
actually "offensive" IN THE INDIAN CONTEXT. My habit of walking
barefoot is "a sign of disrespect" considering that I'm obviously
able to "afford shoes" – that's how they argue… Well, I can ensure
everybody: THAT'S CRAP! Fortunately, freeing their feet from
imprisonment isn't a privilege of the poor! At least in South India…
Many people down here CAN afford footwear – buying a pair of flip-
flops isn't a big deal anyway, except you're virtually penniless –
but opt for a barefoot life `cause they feel more comfortable,
consider the therapeutically aspects (high bp, reflex zones…) or
simply don't see a point in using a few straps of leather or plastic
to confine their feet. Let me remind you what M.F. Hussain, India's
celebrated modern painter (a multimillionaire – crorepati!) says
about his OWN habit of going barefoot EVERYWHERE: "It started for
purely health reasons. As acupressure is great for the feet I opted
out of footwear. And as a result even today I can sit for long hours
on the floor .It is almost 40 years now that I am barefoot. Earlier
people laughed. Now they have accepted me as I am. I even go to
Parliament without shoes. In fact in our country removing your
footwear is a mark of respect. Be it at home or a place of worship
we go in barefoot." By the way: In India itself I'm hardly
encountering ANY negative reaction! People are only curious if they
see a foreigner strolling around barefoot. Some ARE concerned, but
only because they think I'm not experienced enough! It's not that
difficult to convince them… Makes me remembering an incident in Fort
Cochin (Kerala) – an incident you might very well call typical: It
was a hot and sunny afternoon and I was exploring downtown Fort
Cochin. Seeing my bare feet, an auto rickshaw driver stopped me,
asking "isn't it too hot for you to walk barefoot?". I said: "No,
I'm used to it. I'm always barefoot." "Your soles must be strong!"
(hesitating a moment) "I don't believe! Show me!" I did and he
carefully examined both my forefoot and heel. Feeling the leathery
skin of my calloused soles, he smiled, saying: "I think they ARE
strong enough!" This wasn't the first time! Having travelled
thousands and thousands of kilometres on India's dusty roads, many
locals asked me to show them my soles, curiously examining the
layers of "living leather" and calluses protecting me from almost
everything one can encounter! And more than once I've been asked for
an instant demonstration, mentioning that my soles are so tough that
I can even put out a cigarette on them…

Living, hiking and travelling barefoot is an all-round experience
and at the same time very communicative! Try it yourself! Free your
feet and keep `em bare!

If you want to read more about me and my life on bare soles or if
you're looking for other like-minded souls, check my Yahoo-
Group "The Barefoot Traveller's Tepee"! More than 600 members from
different corners of the world, the largest online-collection of
barefoot-links and a huge photo-section are waiting for you!

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/barefoottravelling/

There's another gr8 page:

http://members.tripod.com/~bftravel/

Here you'll find many stories and loads of pictures as well as
useful background-info for those who love to travel barefoot. Enjoy!

Living barefoot isn't a "spleen" and barefooters aren't a "bunch of
freaks": Many share our passion, all over the world! If you've still
ANY doubt: Visit the "Barefoot Traveller's Tepee" and go straight
away to the Link-section!!! You'll find more than 100 links, opening
you the door to a new world, a whole universe of barefoot
activities! You'll be surprised to read about barefoot teachers and
workers, parents and children, about fellow barefooter from
Australia, UK, France, Belgium, Germany, Switzerland, Denmark,
Italy, Malta, Canada, the US and China, about barefoot hiker and
biker, a famous pianist performing barefoot, the bare-pawed furry
community, running barefoot, barefoot sport… Have fun – and get
inspired!

Keep `em bare!

Barefoot Traveller

barefootingindia@...

Hey welcome!

Allow your calves a lot of time to adjust to running
barefoot - the natural motion you'll find yourself
using is much more challenging to the achilles and
calf muscles than the 'normal' heel-strike motion most
of us used before discovering barefoot running.  If
your calves are aching a lot after running, that
probably means you're using them the right way at
last!

Also be aware that years of living in shoes will have
chronically shortened the tendons in your feet and
lower legs, so it's worth doing lots and lots of
stretching (if you find it difficult to keep at it,
many of us find going to regular yoga classes helps
and ensures you have a really thorough stretch, some
have had a lot of results from a disciplined daily
regime, while some just stretch all over like a cat
for a few minutes when they wake up or whenever they
feel like - find what works best for you).

Some have found that because running barefoot with
good form stretches your calves as you run, once the
muscles have reached a comfortable length there is no
need for any additional stretching other than that
caused by the running itself. Myself, I love doing
yoga to keep me supple, I find it complements running
nicely (and is of course, a sport where bare feet are
the norm).

Loved your art work by the way!  You obviously have
far too much time on your hands (she says, while
sitting at her desk reading barefoot running stuff...)


--- Patrick Mahoney <pat@...> wrote:

> Hello.  I've been running barefoot in Albuquerque,
> New Mexico for two
> and a half weeks now.  I'm doing a mile or two on
> grass and sidewalk
> with slightly sore calves and hams; not sure if I'm
> not relaxing enough
> or just not in shape yet, probably some of both.
> Had some minor
> blisters on both big toes after the first days, but
> my soles are OK now.
>
> I'm hoping to get my feet in shape for a 5K in
> October.  Sidewalk isn't
> too much trouble, but asphalt is difficult,
> especially because it tends
> to have small rocks that stick to my feet, so we'll
> see.
>
> I've been a shod runner for about ten years now,
> though the past few
> years have been off and on and without many races.
>
> Inspirational ascii art:
>
>       ()
>       ( \
>        ) `----
>       (_,-----
>
> --
> Patrick Mahoney <pat@...>
>




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Such beautiful footage (oops, no pun intended!) - but, alas, what a
tragic ending!  >;-)

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5456923151499135807

Enjoy!

b-bmw

Barefoot Brett is featured in the following Orlando Sentinel Article,
along with a pic of Barefoot Ted, barefoot/vibram runner enthusiast:

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/features/lifestyle/orl-
barefooted06aug01,0,2974805.story

or tinyurl:

http://tinyurl.com/orohh

Rock on Brett and Ted!

BR

Kind of like you are in the midst of a beautiful dream, and then you
wake up and see they Nike Free pitch. Alas!

BR

--- In RunningBarefoot@yahoogroups.com, "Brett Williams"
<barefoot_bmw@...> wrote:
>
> Such beautiful footage (oops, no pun intended!) - but, alas, what a
> tragic ending!  >;-)
>
> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5456923151499135807
>
> Enjoy!
>
> b-bmw
>

Always good to hear some encouragement. Thanks.

Have fun,
-barefoot ken bob

--- In RunningBarefoot@yahoogroups.com, "z3nrunn3r" <z3nrunn3r@...>
wrote:
>
> Just wanted to let Ken know he saved my knees(and feet!). ...

A bad trail running barefoot is better than a good day running anywhere
with shoes :-)

http://www.runningbarefoot.org/?name=NapaValleyTrailMarathon1998

Have fun,
-barefoot ken bob

--- In RunningBarefoot@yahoogroups.com, "Gregg" <gpiechota@...> wrote:
>
> Anyone have experience trail running barefoot? I am going to do a 10
> mile trail run in 2 weeks (
> http://www.heartrateup.com/ULTRA%202006/Ultra.htm ) and thought about
> doing it barefoot. But after running some of the trails with my
> fivefingers on i decided to wear them instead of going completely
> barefoot. The terrain consists of ski slopes and mountain bike trails
> which over the weekend were very muddy and so much fun. Although the
> ski slopes weren't much fun, lots of rocks, but i toughed it out.
>

If I were a manufacturer of minimal, barefoot-mimicking shoes, I would
be very happy that Nike is spending so much time pushing the foot.

Go Nike go...barefoot.

BFT

--
One foot at a time.  One sole at a time.  One hell of a good time.

Barefoot Ted's Adventures
www.BarefootTed.com

That IS a beautiful video. I had never seen it before, thank you!
New to the group, new to barefoot running (running 12 years with
shoes), NOT new to being barefoot. I go without whenever I can,
unfortunatly I have to wear shoes to work...closed-toed shoes! I
guess I should count my lucky stars, I'm 51 and this is the first
job I've ever had to enclose my feet for. I worked in a bakery and
in the kitchen of a high-end restaurant and was fortunate enough to
be able to wear flip-flops (shh, don't tell OSHA).My feet are very
unhappy now. It's kind of crazy because I hate shoes, yet I am
FAMOUS among fellow employees (140 of them) for my footwear. I was
determined to find the most comfortable and fashonable shoes I could
and they are kind of unusual!

Now,I work in a Sports Medicine and Physical Therapy Office. There
are about 20 of us just starting to train for a marathon/half
marathon. I have run two halves before and hope to run the full.I
don't expect to do the whole thing barefoot, but I sure will be
doing some of my training shoeless. Do the therapists and athletic
trainers think I'm crazy? Of course! This will be very interesting
for everyone to see how this all unfolds!

Back to the video. I bought Nike Frees 'cause I've always been
curious. Tried them on the indoor track, then took them off to run
barefoot. NO COMPARISON! I know,...DUH. I'm sending them back!
Again, love the video. It IS a tragedy. It's good to join you.
Thanks.







--- In RunningBarefoot@yahoogroups.com, "Brett Williams"
<barefoot_bmw@...> wrote:
>
> Such beautiful footage (oops, no pun intended!) - but, alas, what
a
> tragic ending!  >;-)
>
> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5456923151499135807
>
> Enjoy!
>
> b-bmw
>

Paddy wrote:

> My knees were sore again afterwards - I'm sure I'm still landing too
> heavily. I'll read Ken Bob's articles again.

I wasn't bending my knees enough for the longest time. I had to learn to
bend my knees unnaturally much compared to what I was used to.



> My Nike Frees require the same style of running, but they still have a
> lot of padding, and I'm wondering if this is in fact interfering with
> learning to run barefoot.

I don't know but I think I was better off not wearing shoe substitutes.
I still have issues with very rocky trails but my feet are pretty tough
now. Nike Frees raise your heel and separate your feet from the ground...

--Richard



> Paddy
>
> --- In RunningBarefoot@yahoogroups.com, "Alan Rogers"
> <Onemassiveone@...> wrote:
>
>>Hi Paddy
>>             I am no expert but being a "Newbie" I have found Ken
>
> Bob Saxtons articles Well worth reading a Few times over.
>
>>I try to make my foot contact with the ground as light as possible
>
> .I do have to do a bit of experimenting.
>
>>I am trying to remember what Roath park was like ..I know it wasn't
>
> smooth..Any way Cardiff has a lot of Park and Recreational Ground no
> shortage of different surfaces to try out.
>
>> I have a 1 1/2 mile course of fairly recently resurfaced country
>
> lane (Around Bere Regis. Dorset) that I run on just to improve my
> technique, Its horrible to run on, but at least by relaxing and
> adjusting my pace and getting the ball of my foot to make initial
> contact as lightly as possible I am able to enjoy myself (I still
> havent found a way around them self adheasive stones yet) but every
> time I go it gets easier .
>
>> I hope that Barefoot  is the key to bringing the "Fun" factor into
>
> your running.
>
>
>>Alan.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Running Barefoot:
> VISIT, http://www.RunningBarefoot.org
> SHOP, http://www.RunningBarefoot.biz
> WIKI, Add your stories, http://www.RunningBarefoot.info
> DISCUSS, http://www.RunningBarefoot.us
>
> Life, itself, is a risk! And an adventure! But only if you take responsibility
for your own choices! Seeking advice from people with experience, like on this
discussion group, is wonderful! Still, it is very important to learn to pay
attention and understand messages from your own body and your own feet
(obviously easier when your feet are allowed to feel). Each decision, to try or
not to try, or continue, or not continue, any course of action, is SOLELY yours,
as is the responsibility for the results from YOUR choices.
> Have fun!
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Hi Betsy!
Shame we are obligated to wear closed toed shoes anywhere! A little while back,
Maria
sent us this link: http://www.vivobarefoot.com/shop.aspx?group=21
Good I think for those awful closed toed times if we must have them.

Anyway, Welcome welcome!!

Kristyan

--- In RunningBarefoot@yahoogroups.com, "Betsy" <imbjb@...> wrote:
>
> That IS a beautiful video. I had never seen it before, thank you!
> New to the group, new to barefoot running (running 12 years with
> shoes), NOT new to being barefoot. I go without whenever I can,
> unfortunatly I have to wear shoes to work...closed-toed shoes! I
> guess I should count my lucky stars, I'm 51 and this is the first
> job I've ever had to enclose my feet for. I worked in a bakery and
> in the kitchen of a high-end restaurant and was fortunate enough to
> be able to wear flip-flops (shh, don't tell OSHA).My feet are very
> unhappy now. It's kind of crazy because I hate shoes, yet I am
> FAMOUS among fellow employees (140 of them) for my footwear. I was
> determined to find the most comfortable and fashonable shoes I could
> and they are kind of unusual!
>
> Now,I work in a Sports Medicine and Physical Therapy Office. There
> are about 20 of us just starting to train for a marathon/half
> marathon. I have run two halves before and hope to run the full.I
> don't expect to do the whole thing barefoot, but I sure will be
> doing some of my training shoeless. Do the therapists and athletic
> trainers think I'm crazy? Of course! This will be very interesting
> for everyone to see how this all unfolds!
>
> Back to the video. I bought Nike Frees 'cause I've always been
> curious. Tried them on the indoor track, then took them off to run
> barefoot. NO COMPARISON! I know,...DUH. I'm sending them back!
> Again, love the video. It IS a tragedy. It's good to join you.
> Thanks.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In RunningBarefoot@yahoogroups.com, "Brett Williams"
> <barefoot_bmw@> wrote:
> >
> > Such beautiful footage (oops, no pun intended!) - but, alas, what
> a
> > tragic ending!  >;-)
> >
> > http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5456923151499135807
> >
> > Enjoy!
> >
> > b-bmw
> >
>

I was just acosted by another self deputized barefoot police officer of the law!
3pm Lawrence
time at the Subway next to Target. I carefully scoped out the signage for any
reference to "No
Shirt, No Shoes, No Service" type signs. None observed so my son (sin zapatos)
and I
plundered our way into the above mentioned establishment. Ate the special of the
day
(Meatball Marinara) and discovered that in fact, we could have ordered the
Chicken Bacon
Ranch, because it was on special today too! So we did (every intent on sticking
my half in the
fridge for a later time)...when lo and behold, a rather large man comes walking
out in the
diner area...clearly older than the ladies behind making my sandwich...it's
difficult for the
employees to see your tootsie when they are behind that bar thingy! But he did
and boy did
stuff come spewing out of his mouth like a volcano erupting all over the place!
"That's against
the law! Disease, Health Department, My boss, yada yada yada!" All this said
with the kind of
disdain and disgust that in the past people reserved for racial bias . As he was
leaving he
yelled out, put some flip flops on!

I just smiled and said have a nice day!

----- Original Message -----

From: Scott Petry

To: RunningBarefoot@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 9:36 PM

Subject: [RunningBarefoot] Barefoot Police

I was just acosted by another self deputized barefoot police officer of the law! 3pm Lawrence
time at the Subway next to Target. I carefully scoped out the signage for any reference to "No
Shirt, No Shoes, No Service" type signs. None observed so my son (sin zapatos) and I
plundered our way into the above mentioned establishment. Ate the special of the day
(Meatball Marinara) and discovered that in fact, we could have ordered the Chicken Bacon
Ranch, because it was on special today too! So we did (every intent on sticking my half in the
fridge for a later time)...when lo and behold, a rather large man comes walking out in the
diner area...clearly older than the ladies behind making my sandwich...it's difficult for the
employees to see your tootsie when they are behind that bar thingy! But he did and boy did
stuff come spewing out of his mouth like a volcano erupting all over the place! "That's against
the law! Disease, Health Department, My boss, yada yada yada!" All this said with the kind of
disdain and disgust that in the past people reserved for racial bias . As he was leaving he
yelled out, put some flip flops on!

I just smiled and said have a nice day!

I have a 10K race Saturday. I haven't run more than 5 miles since last
week. It has been very hot and incredibly humid. Maybe you can run in
this, but I find it hard to.

Saturday, the day of my race, it is supposed to be a bit cooler (high of
88F. instead of 100F.)

Is this a problem for me in terms of not being in good enough shape for
Saturday? What is your experience with not running much and then racing?

Thanks!

--Richard

Good... or Bad...

Depending.

Ideally one would be in shape for a race a week and a half prior to
the race. Then resting, or at most some easy running, just to stay
limber, during the week leading to the race will allow recovery from
training.

However, if one isn't ready to run prior to the "rest" period. The
rest may not help all that much. In which case, the option, other
than not running at all, is simply to run within your limits. So
don't run any faster than you are able to cover the distance on the
day of the race. That could mean some very slow running, or even
walking if running is too much, given your condition, and/or the
weather.

Although our heat wave, by the beach, has not been over 100 degrees,
only up to about 99 or so, but, while sitting in the house sweltering
may make running seem out of the question, when I did go out and run,
it actually felt better than sitting and sweltering. You will
generate a breeze while running. Just be sure to drink plenty of
water a while BEFORE you start, and stay within your own limits
considering (again) your conditioning, and/or the weather. And as
always, relax, relax, relax...

Have fun,
-barefoot ken bob

--- In RunningBarefoot@yahoogroups.com, Richard Geller <rgeller@...>
wrote:
>
> I have a 10K race Saturday. I haven't run more than 5 miles since
last
> week. It has been very hot and incredibly humid. Maybe you can run
in
> this, but I find it hard to.
>
> Saturday, the day of my race, it is supposed to be a bit cooler
(high of
> 88F. instead of 100F.)
>
> Is this a problem for me in terms of not being in good enough shape
for
> Saturday? What is your experience with not running much and then
racing?
>
> Thanks!
>
> --Richard
>

I sincerelly doubt that this is Subway policy. I have never had a
problem being in Subway barefoot... Since the man mentioned the law,
I suggest setting him (or at least his boss) straight. Chances are,
considering his attitude, it has nothing to do with his boss, the
law, or any Subway regulation, just his own predjudice...

Write a letter to Subway headquarters. A nice letter, letting them
know that they are not being represented in a friendly manner by one
of their employees.

Your reaction on the spot was, in my opinion, a very good response,
and you represent our "cause" with dignity.

Have fun,
-barefoot ken bob

--- In RunningBarefoot@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Petry" <spetry@...>
wrote:
>
> I was just acosted by another self deputized barefoot police
officer of the law! 3pm Lawrence
> time at the Subway next to Target. I carefully scoped out the
signage for any reference to "No
> Shirt, No Shoes, No Service" type signs. None observed so my son
(sin zapatos) and I
> plundered our way into the above mentioned establishment. Ate the
special of the day
> (Meatball Marinara) and discovered that in fact, we could have
ordered the Chicken Bacon
> Ranch, because it was on special today too! So we did (every intent
on sticking my half in the
> fridge for a later time)...when lo and behold, a rather large man
comes walking out in the
> diner area...clearly older than the ladies behind making my
sandwich...it's difficult for the
> employees to see your tootsie when they are behind that bar thingy!
But he did and boy did
> stuff come spewing out of his mouth like a volcano erupting all
over the place! "That's against
> the law! Disease, Health Department, My boss, yada yada yada!" All
this said with the kind of
> disdain and disgust that in the past people reserved for racial
bias . As he was leaving he
> yelled out, put some flip flops on!
>
> I just smiled and said have a nice day!
>

I have a dream!

I climbed a mountain, barefoot, naturally.

When I came to the other side, I woke up and was wearing shoes!!

Arghhhhh!!!!!! Boy, do my feet hurt!!!

Have fun,
-barefoot ken bob

--- In RunningBarefoot@yahoogroups.com, "Barefoot Rick" <rroeber@...>
wrote:
>
> Kind of like you are in the midst of a beautiful dream, and then
you
> wake up and see they Nike Free pitch. Alas!
>
> BR
>
> --- In RunningBarefoot@yahoogroups.com, "Brett Williams"
> <barefoot_bmw@> wrote:
> >
> > Such beautiful footage (oops, no pun intended!) - but, alas, what
a
> > tragic ending!  >;-)
> >
> > http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5456923151499135807
> >
> > Enjoy!
> >
> > b-bmw
> >
>

BKB,

I think I will take your advice and pursue the matter a little further...after I
thought about
it, who was he to tell me what I should wear? This guy was over weight. Did I
mention to
him that his apparent "fatness" was a health hazard? or that I was personally
offended by
such a fat, overweight human being.

By the way, I loved that meatball marinara...

Barefoot Scott

--- In RunningBarefoot@yahoogroups.com, "Ken Bob Saxton" <KenBob@...> wrote:
>
> I sincerelly doubt that this is Subway policy. I have never had a
> problem being in Subway barefoot... Since the man mentioned the law,
> I suggest setting him (or at least his boss) straight. Chances are,
> considering his attitude, it has nothing to do with his boss, the
> law, or any Subway regulation, just his own predjudice...
>
> Write a letter to Subway headquarters. A nice letter, letting them
> know that they are not being represented in a friendly manner by one
> of their employees.
>
> Your reaction on the spot was, in my opinion, a very good response,
> and you represent our "cause" with dignity.
>
> Have fun,
> -barefoot ken bob
>
> --- In RunningBarefoot@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Petry" <spetry@>
> wrote:
> >
> > I was just acosted by another self deputized barefoot police
> officer of the law! 3pm Lawrence
> > time at the Subway next to Target. I carefully scoped out the
> signage for any reference to "No
> > Shirt, No Shoes, No Service" type signs. None observed so my son
> (sin zapatos) and I
> > plundered our way into the above mentioned establishment. Ate the
> special of the day
> > (Meatball Marinara) and discovered that in fact, we could have
> ordered the Chicken Bacon
> > Ranch, because it was on special today too! So we did (every intent
> on sticking my half in the
> > fridge for a later time)...when lo and behold, a rather large man
> comes walking out in the
> > diner area...clearly older than the ladies behind making my
> sandwich...it's difficult for the
> > employees to see your tootsie when they are behind that bar thingy!
> But he did and boy did
> > stuff come spewing out of his mouth like a volcano erupting all
> over the place! "That's against
> > the law! Disease, Health Department, My boss, yada yada yada!" All
> this said with the kind of
> > disdain and disgust that in the past people reserved for racial
> bias . As he was leaving he
> > yelled out, put some flip flops on!
> >
> > I just smiled and said have a nice day!
> >
>

That was a little depressing...
All those amasing athletes being used to nikes advantage. I still wear
shoes to some degree because of some of my activities, and I can't get
into stores or on the bus with out them, so I feel shoes are still
needed but those look like I'd destroy them in no time. Are they
actually strong? They look like an imposibly squishy foot! Do you
think they'd hold up under half of those activities.
   My bigest problem whearing shoes is the sole holding onto my foot as
it bends, kind of like the effect when a balloon pops and grabs hold
of your skin!! I can never find a happy midium of strong rubber and
soft hold on your foot. Feet are much better.

Josh

Hello,
I came here I think two months ago now. What I've read has helped me
much! I lived in the middle of nowhere befor so I just never wore
shoes but since I've been back in the city I got too used to them. I
haven't been doing alot of bare foot running specifically(I'm taking
it nice and slow) as my activities have too much impact for my soles
but I've resolved now to take my dogs advice and not wear shoes on
our walks.
  I posted to a topic "parallel feet" about how I had hip dysplacia
(sp) when I was born and my right foot naturally points out. Ken
Bob, you asked me to let you know how keeping my knees bent helped.
I can't tell really which leg is longer but it's not an issue
anymore. With my knees bent and leaning forward for momentume it
both compansates for what ever difference was there but also this
movement wiggles my hip and lower back muscles. I think this has
actually helped it find a better placement and loosened the muscles
up that were taking the pressure. It's hard to say if the right side
of my hip(the sore side) was compansating for the shorter left leg
or was being over stretched. It seems now I have to make shure to
bend my left knee more so that would suggest the left is actually
longer. Oh well, it's not really a problem unless I'm not warmed up
or have been sitting all day.

As for another post I wrote, about my first planned barefoot run,
that went great! I think it was soley when I started pushing off
chasing cars, lol! The rocks I don't think had any negative affect
on my feet. Like I said in that post it was almost like rolling over
the path, even the bigger rocks were not a problem. I had run long
distance befor, barefoot on pavement(with no problems) so I didn't
fully trust that I shouldn't push off with my toes. The difference I
think is that I had been walking around all day in the past so maybe
my feet were more stretchy at those times, or something like that?
I've been aclimitizing to no shoes by finding a pair of flat shoes
but I still loath them!

Well, good to be barefoot,
Josh

----- Original Message -----

From: Scott Petry

To: RunningBarefoot@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 5:28 AM

Subject: [RunningBarefoot] Re: Barefoot Police

 

  I wouldn't mind betting that the "Person" that gave you all the grief  is probably unpopular with his fellow workers as his radical views may extend way beyond unshod feet.

  You could have a chat with the manager to find the company official line.and maybe register a complaint against the remaks the employee made to you.

  The only health and safety issue is the injury you may have through sharp fragments feeing on the floor..Either way the store would be insured for such public liability.

  Its funny how Barefeet are looked upon as "Unclean"  by some......put on a pair of Flips and everythings OK..

 

   

 

 

BKB,

I think I will take your advice and pursue the matter a little further...after I thought about
it, who was he to tell me what I should wear? This guy was over weight. Did I mention to
him that his apparent "fatness" was a health hazard? or that I was personally offended by
such a fat, overweight human being.

By the way, I loved that meatball marinara.

*** Please forward ***

http://prms.alternatives.com/2006/wbps0701.pdf

TENTH ANNUAL WRECK BEACH BARE BUNS RUN/WALK
SIXTH ANNUAL BUNS-ACROSS-THE BORDER EVENT

Vancouver, BC, Canada -- August 1, 2006 -- The Tenth Annual Wreck Beach 5K Bare
Buns Run/Walk and Sixth Annual Buns-Across the Border Event is Sunday, August 6,
2006. Not only does the run promote the healthiness and enjoyment of social
naturism, it also is one of the Wreck Beach Preservation Society's (WBPS's) main
fund raisers of the year. Sponsors (listed below) are listed prominently on the
backs of the run shirts which travel literally around the world! The event is
run by the WBPS whose mandate is to preserve Wreck Beach in as nearly a natural
state as possible.

Registration and check-in starts 8:30 a.m. with the race starting at 10:00 a.m.
sharp near the base of Wreck Beach Trail 6. There will be medals for winners in
each category with certificates awarded to all those who cross the finish line
"with bare buns". Registration fees are $25 adult, $20 for youth under 16 or
seniors over 55, and includes a T-shirt or tank top. Youth must be accompanied
by a parent or guardian. Those wishing to walk are very welcome to participate.

Participants are asked to pre-register with forms available at
http://www.wreckbeach.org or at the top of Wreck Beach Trail 6.

The event is officially timed, with medals awarded to the top three male and
female runners in the following age groups: Under 12, 13-16, 17-25, 26-35,
36-45, 46-55, 56-65, and over 65. Certificates will be awarded for oldest,
youngest, and best-decorated "buns." Medals will go to the first men, women, and
children across the finish line.

"If you are too shy to completely bare your buns, get a friend or one of our
beach artists to body paint them for you!" say race organizers.

An official WBPS photographer will record the event. Out of respect for others,
please do not take pictures without permission, or identifiable close-ups of
persons wearing red wristbands. An area will be designated for those wishing to
be photographed. There is to be no photography of children period.

As featured in TrailRunner Magazine's 2006 Special Trophy Series Edition, the
August 6, 2006, date for the tenth annual run was selected because of the low
tide that day. The exact course along the beach depends on wind and tides for
that day.

The Wreck Beach Bare Buns Run is part of the 6th annual "Buns-Across-The-Border"
celebration of Naturism. People who have participated in both the Fraternity
Snoqualmie (http://www.fraternitysnoqualmie.com/BBFR.html) and Kaniksu Ranch
(http://www.kaniksufamily.com/BBFR06.html) bare buns runs are eligible after
completion of the Wreck Beach Bare Buns Run/Walk, for a medal commemorating all
three runs for this year.  Fraternity Snoqualmie's run was Sunday, July 16, near
Issaquah, WA, and Kaniksu's run was July 30, 2006, near Spokane, WA.

This year's Wreck Beach Bare Buns Run is in honour of Paddy, and our colourful
2006 David Ian-designed Buns Run shirt incorporates his image into the design
(http://www.wreckbeach.org/images/bbrun2006.jpg). Paddy was a local character
actor, long-time member of ACTRA (Association of Canadian Cinema, Television and
Radio Artists), and stand-up comic who worked from Los Angeles to Vancouver with
fellow comedian and beach luminary, Watermelon. Usually sporting his Captain's
hat, Paddy adopted Wreck Beach as his home away from home maintaining a constant
stream of Irish banter as he walked the beach socializing with everyone. Because
Paddy tirelessly fundraised for the beach he so loved, the first Bare Buns
Run/Walk was dedicated to his memory after his death in 1997. And, also in his
memory, Watermelon will be our Mistress of Ceremonies for August 6, 2006.

This year's sponsors are: Echo and Jello, Federation of Canadian Naturists
(FCN), Midtown Graphics, Rackets and Runners, Skinnydippers, Western Canadian
Association for Nude Recreation (WCANR), Stormin Norman's Spirit Grills, TCSN,
Van Tan Club, Australian Gold, Naturist Action Committee (NAC), Alexis Greek
Restaurant, Shannon Buoys Marina & Boatyard, and the crew at Race Headquarters
for timing the run.

A very special acknowledgement and thank you to sponsors who have been with us
since the first race: Echo and Jello, Mid-Town Graphics, Western Canadian
Association for Nude Recreation, the Federation of Canadian Naturists,
Australian Gold, with a special tip of the hat to Ron Routley, Stormin' Norman's
Spirit Grills, the Van Tan Club, and TCSN and Sandy for contributing well over
$30,000 worth of product!

To volunteer for the run, please contact Donna J. at 604-732-5218. Leslie Stark
will be coordinating volunteers the day of the run for Donna.

For event details, phone 604-876-3909, email beachgirl@..., or visit
http://www.wreckbeach.org

Great update, thanks! I do think past adaptations to being barefoot
carry over for a long time and make it easier to resume being
naturally-footed (barefoot).

--Richard

beardedyoungman wrote:

> Hello,
> I came here I think two months ago now. What I've read has helped me
> much! I lived in the middle of nowhere befor so I just never wore
> shoes but since I've been back in the city I got too used to them. I
> haven't been doing alot of bare foot running specifically(I'm taking
> it nice and slow) as my activities have too much impact for my soles
> but I've resolved now to take my dogs advice and not wear shoes on
> our walks.
>  I posted to a topic "parallel feet" about how I had hip dysplacia
> (sp) when I was born and my right foot naturally points out. Ken
> Bob, you asked me to let you know how keeping my knees bent helped.
> I can't tell really which leg is longer but it's not an issue
> anymore. With my knees bent and leaning forward for momentume it
> both compansates for what ever difference was there but also this
> movement wiggles my hip and lower back muscles. I think this has
> actually helped it find a better placement and loosened the muscles
> up that were taking the pressure. It's hard to say if the right side
> of my hip(the sore side) was compansating for the shorter left leg
> or was being over stretched. It seems now I have to make shure to
> bend my left knee more so that would suggest the left is actually
> longer. Oh well, it's not really a problem unless I'm not warmed up
> or have been sitting all day.
>
> As for another post I wrote, about my first planned barefoot run,
> that went great! I think it was soley when I started pushing off
> chasing cars, lol! The rocks I don't think had any negative affect
> on my feet. Like I said in that post it was almost like rolling over
> the path, even the bigger rocks were not a problem. I had run long
> distance befor, barefoot on pavement(with no problems) so I didn't
> fully trust that I shouldn't push off with my toes. The difference I
> think is that I had been walking around all day in the past so maybe
> my feet were more stretchy at those times, or something like that?
> I've been aclimitizing to no shoes by finding a pair of flat shoes
> but I still loath them!
>
> Well, good to be barefoot,
> Josh
>
>
>
>
>
> Running Barefoot:
> VISIT, http://www.RunningBarefoot.org
> SHOP, http://www.RunningBarefoot.biz
> WIKI, Add your stories, http://www.RunningBarefoot.info
> DISCUSS, http://www.RunningBarefoot.us
>
> Life, itself, is a risk! And an adventure! But only if you take responsibility
for your own choices! Seeking advice from people with experience, like on this
discussion group, is wonderful! Still, it is very important to learn to pay
attention and understand messages from your own body and your own feet
(obviously easier when your feet are allowed to feel). Each decision, to try or
not to try, or continue, or not continue, any course of action, is SOLELY yours,
as is the responsibility for the results from YOUR choices.
> Have fun!
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Check out my "Beliefs.doc" in the files section...
http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/RunningBarefoot/files/
An earlier version of this letter let me to serve jury duty barefoot.
Keep in mind, you may not get selected to be on a jury, if one of the
lawyers thinks that barefeet are too radical... Hmmm.. that's not
necessarily a bad thing.

Anyway, you (and anyone else) are welcome to use any of the arguments
presented in the letter to advance our freedom to "Just say NO! to
shoes!

Have fun,
-barefoot ken bob

--- In RunningBarefoot@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Petry" <spetry@...>
wrote:
>
> BKB,
>
> I think I will take your advice and pursue the matter a little
further...after I thought about
> it, who was he to tell me what I should wear? This guy was over
weight. Did I mention to
> him that his apparent "fatness" was a health hazard? or that I was
personally offended by
> such a fat, overweight human being.
>
> By the way, I loved that meatball marinara...
>
> Barefoot Scott
>
> --- In RunningBarefoot@yahoogroups.com, "Ken Bob Saxton" <KenBob@>
wrote:
> >
> > I sincerelly doubt that this is Subway policy. I have never had a
> > problem being in Subway barefoot... Since the man mentioned the
law,
> > I suggest setting him (or at least his boss) straight. Chances
are,
> > considering his attitude, it has nothing to do with his boss, the
> > law, or any Subway regulation, just his own predjudice...
> >
> > Write a letter to Subway headquarters. A nice letter, letting
them
> > know that they are not being represented in a friendly manner by
one
> > of their employees.
> >
> > Your reaction on the spot was, in my opinion, a very good
response,
> > and you represent our "cause" with dignity.
> >
> > Have fun,
> > -barefoot ken bob
> >
> > --- In RunningBarefoot@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Petry" <spetry@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > I was just acosted by another self deputized barefoot police
> > officer of the law! 3pm Lawrence
> > > time at the Subway next to Target. I carefully scoped out the
> > signage for any reference to "No
> > > Shirt, No Shoes, No Service" type signs. None observed so my
son
> > (sin zapatos) and I
> > > plundered our way into the above mentioned establishment. Ate
the
> > special of the day
> > > (Meatball Marinara) and discovered that in fact, we could have
> > ordered the Chicken Bacon
> > > Ranch, because it was on special today too! So we did (every
intent
> > on sticking my half in the
> > > fridge for a later time)...when lo and behold, a rather large
man
> > comes walking out in the
> > > diner area...clearly older than the ladies behind making my
> > sandwich...it's difficult for the
> > > employees to see your tootsie when they are behind that bar
thingy!
> > But he did and boy did
> > > stuff come spewing out of his mouth like a volcano erupting all
> > over the place! "That's against
> > > the law! Disease, Health Department, My boss, yada yada yada!"
All
> > this said with the kind of
> > > disdain and disgust that in the past people reserved for racial
> > bias . As he was leaving he
> > > yelled out, put some flip flops on!
> > >
> > > I just smiled and said have a nice day!
> > >
> >
>

Dude,
That is amazing!  But it would require some modifications to be in
line with British law, if I am to ever require it.
Cheers,
Yanni
Barefoot runner since December 2004.

wrote:
>
> Check out my "Beliefs.doc" in the files section...
> http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/RunningBarefoot/files/
> An earlier version of this letter let me to serve jury duty barefoot.
> Keep in mind, you may not get selected to be on a jury, if one of the
> lawyers thinks that barefeet are too radical... Hmmm.. that's not
> necessarily a bad thing.
>
> Anyway, you (and anyone else) are welcome to use any of the arguments
> presented in the letter to advance our freedom to "Just say NO! to
> shoes!
>
> Have fun,
> -barefoot ken bob
>
> --- In RunningBarefoot@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Petry" <spetry@>
> wrote:
> >
> > BKB,
> >
> > I think I will take your advice and pursue the matter a little
> further...after I thought about
> > it, who was he to tell me what I should wear? This guy was over
> weight. Did I mention to
> > him that his apparent "fatness" was a health hazard? or that I was
> personally offended by
> > such a fat, overweight human being.
> >
> > By the way, I loved that meatball marinara...
> >
> > Barefoot Scott
> >
> > --- In RunningBarefoot@yahoogroups.com, "Ken Bob Saxton" <KenBob@>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > I sincerelly doubt that this is Subway policy. I have never had a
> > > problem being in Subway barefoot... Since the man mentioned the
> law,
> > > I suggest setting him (or at least his boss) straight. Chances
> are,
> > > considering his attitude, it has nothing to do with his boss, the
> > > law, or any Subway regulation, just his own predjudice...
> > >
> > > Write a letter to Subway headquarters. A nice letter, letting
> them
> > > know that they are not being represented in a friendly manner by
> one
> > > of their employees.
> > >
> > > Your reaction on the spot was, in my opinion, a very good
> response,
> > > and you represent our "cause" with dignity.
> > >
> > > Have fun,
> > > -barefoot ken bob
> > >
> > > --- In RunningBarefoot@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Petry" <spetry@>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I was just acosted by another self deputized barefoot police
> > > officer of the law! 3pm Lawrence
> > > > time at the Subway next to Target. I carefully scoped out the
> > > signage for any reference to "No
> > > > Shirt, No Shoes, No Service" type signs. None observed so my
> son
> > > (sin zapatos) and I
> > > > plundered our way into the above mentioned establishment. Ate
> the
> > > special of the day
> > > > (Meatball Marinara) and discovered that in fact, we could have
> > > ordered the Chicken Bacon
> > > > Ranch, because it was on special today too! So we did (every
> intent
> > > on sticking my half in the
> > > > fridge for a later time)...when lo and behold, a rather large
> man
> > > comes walking out in the
> > > > diner area...clearly older than the ladies behind making my
> > > sandwich...it's difficult for the
> > > > employees to see your tootsie when they are behind that bar
> thingy!
> > > But he did and boy did
> > > > stuff come spewing out of his mouth like a volcano erupting all
> > > over the place! "That's against
> > > > the law! Disease, Health Department, My boss, yada yada yada!"
> All
> > > this said with the kind of
> > > > disdain and disgust that in the past people reserved for racial
> > > bias . As he was leaving he
> > > > yelled out, put some flip flops on!
> > > >
> > > > I just smiled and said have a nice day!
> > > >
> > >
> >
>