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Re: [RedsFest] Re: How can Selig reinstate Rose now?

Well, I agree. I don't think anyone wants Pete in that kind of position due to the trouble it could bring their team. His verbal skills are definately not family radio material!!!

I thought Thom was with the Diamond Backs now? Has he went back to Chicago?

 "dooleyville <dooleyville@...>" <dooleyville@...> wrote:

Exactly why he should never be in a position to influence the outcome
of an individual game.  And I don't think there is even a remote
chance of it anyhow.  Uncle Carl ain't a gonna hire him as manager
and neither will anybody else.  Hitting instructor is the highest on
field position he should ever be allowed to hold.  Maybe a scout. 
Broadcasting would be OK, but I just don't really think a lot of his
verbal skills.

Thom is never going to leave the Cubs voluntarily,  I guarantee he's
making more than Uncle Carl would ever pay him.  But, we can always
dream...

--- In RedsFest@yahoogroups.com, "easttartan1987
<easttartan1987@y...>" <easttartan1987@y...> wrote:
> This Rose thing is getting nasty!!! I think Pete should have to go
> through some gamblers anonymous course, or something. How can he be
> trusted to not bet on the team he works for, if he still gambles? I
> think letting him be a coach or manager could result in bad news!!!
>
> I liked Marty's comments on Pete being in the booth with him. I
> figured Marty would have a say in who takes over for Joe. I myself,
> think it would be nice to have Thom to come and work with Marty.
But,
> I think Thom's getting more money than the Reds would probably
offer
> him.
>
> Easttartan
>
>
>
> --- In RedsFest@yahoogroups.com, "Diehardsteeler"
> <diehardsteeler@s...> wrote:
> > How can Selig reinstate Rose now?
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------
--
> --------
> > ----
> > Pete remains his own worst enemy
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sept. 23, the night of the celebrity softball game that closed
> Cinergy
> > Field, Pete Rose attended the same party as Mike Bertolini. In
2003,
> > Bertolini might be as pure as a bar of Ivory soap. In 1987, he
was a
> > middleman between Rose and a New York bookie, according to the
> report
> > authored by Major League Baseball's investigator, John Dowd.
> >
> > Rose denied to Dowd that Bertolini placed bets for him; Bertolini
> wouldn't
> > talk to Dowd.
> >
> > Rose might not have said two words to Bertolini in September at
The
> > Waterfront restaurant after the softball game. It doesn't matter.
> If you are
> > Pete Rose and you are fighting for your baseball citizenship, why
> are you
> > seen anywhere with Mike Bertolini?
> >
> > On his way back home, Rose keeps tripping. One newspaper had him
> gambling at
> > a Las Vegas casino last week and frequenting the sports book of a
> Vegas
> > hotel. This was within days of an Enquirer report saying Rose
owes
> $151,690
> > in back taxes.
> >
> > How can someone be gambling, supposedly, when he owes the IRS six
> figures?
> >
> > At best, Rose is guilty of incredibly bad judgment. At worst,
Rose
> has a
> > problem he needs to get fixed before reinstatement is an option.
> >
> > It's amazing. Just as he should be edging closer to his own
> peculiar form of
> > grace, Rose is throwing banana peels in his path. Rose was never
> > self-destructive, even as a big bettor. He didn't bet to hurt
> himself. He
> > did it for the juice. Thirteen years later, the impression
persists
> that he
> > can't help himself.
> >
> > How can commissioner Bud Selig reinstate Rose now?
> >
> > The deal with former commissioner Bart Giamatti was that Rose
> should change
> > his life. By all appearances, he hasn't. If he apologizes now for
> betting on
> > the game, who will believe him? Who beyond the hero-worshipping
> toadies
> > would see it as anything but transparent?
> >
> > I'm sorry I gambled on the game. Now if you'll excuse me, Vegas
> awaits. Have
> >  you met Mike?
> >
> > A person close to the investigation believes Selig will offer
Rose
> some sort
> > of pardon, probably in the next four to six weeks. But it will be
> so loaded
> > with conditions, Rose might never pass the audition.
> >
> > Selig has made a sincere attempt to bring Rose back. He must be
> wondering
> > about his intentions now.
> >
> > Nobody knows how this will turn out. Rose could cop to betting on
> baseball,
> > apologize and admit he has a serious gambling problem. Maybe he
> does, maybe
> > he doesn't. But hanging around the gaming tables, supposedly,
when
> you're in
> > deep with the taxman isn't a sign you're in control of your life.
> >
> > Selig could make Rose apologize and bring him back only so his
name
> appears
> > on the Hall of Fame ballot. Once reinstated, Rose could work in
the
> game
> > without affecting it on the field. Broadcasting, maybe, though
not
> on the
> > radio, at least not here.
> >
> > "Would I be in favor of him in the radio booth? No," Marty
> Brennaman said
> > Wednesday. "He can't do play-by play. I don't intend to do nine
> innings of
> > play-by-play so Pete Rose can be in the radio booth. I'm going to
> have some
> > say in who gets this job (when Joe Nuxhall retires). If my say
means
> > anything, it won't be Pete Rose."
> >
> > Nothing is clear but this: Nobody has sabotaged
> >
> > Rose's return but Rose. I wanted Rose back in baseball, because
he
> belongs
> > in the Hall of Fame and because 13 years is sufficient penance,
> especially
> > given that baseball has used Rose in deals with sponsors. That
> position came
> > with a belief Rose would do his part, or make an effort. Recent
> revelations
> > suggest he hasn't.
> >
> > I don't want an apology from Rose. I want an admission that
> gambling is a
> > problem he needs to fix. I'd guess Selig feels the same.
> >
> > It is time for Rose to earn our compassion.
> >
> > E-mail pdaugherty@e...
> >
> > "You know what I've learned?" says Junior. "When you're on top of
> the world,
> > you find out who your enemies are. When you're down, you find out
> who are
> > really your friends."



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How can Selig reinstate Rose now? ... Pete remains his own worst enemy On Sept. 23, the night of the celebrity softball game that closed Cinergy Field, Pete...
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This Rose thing is getting nasty!!! I think Pete should have to go through some gamblers anonymous course, or something. How can he be trusted to not bet on...
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Jan 30, 2003
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Exactly why he should never be in a position to influence the outcome of an individual game. And I don't think there is even a remote chance of it anyhow....
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Well, I agree. I don't think anyone wants Pete in that kind of position due to the trouble it could bring their team. His verbal skills are definately not...
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I don't know but I sure wish they would get rid of those two dorks they have on FOX Cincinnati. Joe Nuxhall to the Reds is like Harry Carrey was for the Cubs....
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