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Re: [RCCTrackers] Re: Hot engine oil temperatures

Are you sure that you still don't have pieces of the WG woodchuck blocking your
oil cooler? ;-)

Scott
---- uvbnzd <Mike.Je@...> wrote:
> Thanks for all the insight that you have experienced. I agree with
> everything that you have said. But, on the otherhand, Porsche has
> been running an air cooled engine for years with an oil cooler that
> works....as well as other manufacturers. My engine coolant
> temperature has never been a problem...that I'm aware of. I will pay
> closer attention next time on the track. Pfadt does have a nice
> system, but any solution that requires $800 plus installation for 20-
> 40 minutes of track time is for the " I have nothing better to do
> with my money". Sorry that I'm so frugile, but there has to be a more
> economical way. Once the weather clears, I plan on putting an
> auxillary fan on the stock oil cooler with a temperature activated
> switch. I estimate $150 for the complete package. If it works I'll
> sell the idea to Pfadt, Dewitts, and Rippie.
>
> --- In RCCTrackers@yahoogroups.com, "Gary Bowler" <gary@...> wrote:
> >
> > Now that I am at my PC I can get more on the topic then using my
> Blackberry.
> > I did the DeWitts radiator that is 2x as thick and has 50% more
> cooling
> > surface on the engine & transmission oil cooler side. Mr DeWitts
> told be
> > that the only way that you will keep the coolant and oil temp down
> is to
> > increase air flow through his radiator. In other words, air flow is
> the
> > limiting factor if the radiator has the surface area to extract the
> heat.
> > The electric fans need to be programmed to come on sooner and stay
> on high
> > speed. The air flow is dependent on the restrictions to flow or
> pressure
> > drop created by the restrictions.
> >
> > This is one reason that all race Corvettes have vented hoods to
> extract hot
> > air from under the hood and increase air flow that is highly
> restricted by
> > the stock air flow path under the car. At speed you have more then
> enough
> > inlet air pressure to the radiator but the air needs to escape on
> the outlet
> > side.
> > The dividends with the vented hood are less under hood pressure,
> > temperature, lift and more down force.
> > It would be interesting to see if the coolant & oil temperature
> would
> > decrease if just a vented hood was installed with a stock radiator.
> This
> > would tell you that the cooling capacity of the radiator is the
> limiting
> > factor if it dropped a few degrees.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: RCCTrackers@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:RCCTrackers@yahoogroups.com] On
> > Behalf Of gary@...
> > Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 5:06 AM
> > To: RCCTrackers@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [RCCTrackers] Re: Hot engine oil temperatures
> >
> > Pfadt Racing has the best C5 oil cooler. Vented hood also helps
> > Gary
> > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: "mitch-evans" <mitch-evans@...>
> >
> > Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 02:25:42
> > To: <RCCTrackers@yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: [RCCTrackers] Re: Hot engine oil temperatures
> >
> >
> > Found this link regarding high oil temps:
> > http://www.z06vette.com/forums/f90/high-oil-temp-trackday-110477/
> >
> > ME
> >
> > --- In RCCTrackers@yahoogroups.com, "uvbnzd" <Mike.Je@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Yes, I have a 160 thermostat and the car was tuned by you. I have
> seen
> > > the Rippie version and I have also seen aftermarket radiators that
> > > have engine oil cooling capability. Overpriced for me. However
> the GM
> > > automatic radiator is reasonably priced. Have you heard or
> experienced
> > > anyone swapping their radiator? My concern is that it may
> restrict the
> > > oil flow or reduce pressure. Z06's have a oil delivery problem
> during
> > > centrifugal forces and I don't want to make it worse. I've also
> > > thought of mounting a small cooling fan on the factory oil cooler.
> > > Where it is located from the factory doesn't allow for any air
> flow.
> > > What do you think of this idea? I know your company is very
> innovative
> > > and well respected for it's quality workmanship. Your opinion is
> > > highly regarded.
> > > Thanks for responding and I'm glad to see you are a member now.
> If you
> > > have any other alternative ideas, please pass them on. Or, better
> yet,
> > > if you have any specials..............
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In RCCTrackers@yahoogroups.com, "g8gt08" <g8gt08@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Do you have an aftermarket oil cooler system? We use Doug
> Rippie oil
> > > > cooler systems on the C5's with good luck, they are pricey
> though.
> > > > Also, is your corvette tuned? Do yopu have a low temp
> thermostat?
> > > > These things will also aid in having a cooler oil temperature.
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > > New Era Performance
> > > > www.neweraperformanceparts.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In RCCTrackers@yahoogroups.com, "uvbnzd" <Mike.Je@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm trying to gather information to solve the hot engine oil
> > > > > temperatures that the C5's and C6's experience on road
> courses.
> > > > > On warm days above 80 degrees oil temperatures rise above 280
> > and in
> > > > > some cases I'm hearing of over 300 degrees. I know synthetics
> are
> > > > > capable of high temps, but this is pretty extreme. I've seen
> > > > > replacement radiators with engine oil cooling capability, but
> the
> > > > > expense is a bit extreme and I am looking for an alternative.
> Any
> > > ideas?
> > > > > Perhaps a GM personnel is out there willing to help. Has
> anyone
> > heard
> > > > > or experienced using a radiator out of an automatic trans
> Vette and
> > > > > cooled the engine oil through the trans oil cooler?
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
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Mon Feb 23, 2009 4:05 pm

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I'm trying to gather information to solve the hot engine oil temperatures that the C5's and C6's experience on road courses. On warm days above 80 degrees oil...
uvbnzd
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Jan 23, 2009
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Do you have an aftermarket oil cooler system? We use Doug Rippie oil cooler systems on the C5's with good luck, they are pricey though. Also, is your corvette...
g8gt08
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Jan 27, 2009
9:52 pm

Yes, I have a 160 thermostat and the car was tuned by you. I have seen the Rippie version and I have also seen aftermarket radiators that have engine oil...
uvbnzd
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Jan 28, 2009
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Found this link regarding high oil temps: http://www.z06vette.com/forums/f90/high-oil-temp-trackday-110477/ ME ... and in ... heard...
mitch-evans
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Feb 22, 2009
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Pfadt Racing has the best C5 oil cooler. Vented hood also helps Gary Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry ... From: "mitch-evans"...
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Feb 22, 2009
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Now that I am at my PC I can get more on the topic then using my Blackberry. I did the DeWitts radiator that is 2x as thick and has 50% more cooling surface on...
Gary Bowler
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Feb 22, 2009
3:12 pm

Thanks for all the insight that you have experienced. I agree with everything that you have said. But, on the otherhand, Porsche has been running an air cooled...
uvbnzd
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Feb 23, 2009
2:57 pm

The VW engine in an air cooled Porsche is the radiator that may or may not have as much of an air flow problem as our Corvettes do. I know that the rear engine...
Gary Bowler
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Feb 23, 2009
3:26 pm

Gary, Again thanks for your input, but your responses do not fit my original question or what my intentions are. I have talked with Aaron several times and yes...
Mike Jelfo
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Feb 23, 2009
4:24 pm

Mike, In that case the only way to drop the oil temperature 20 deg. for half an hour with OEM a cooler would be a function of your right foot or pack the oil...
Gary Bowler
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Feb 23, 2009
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By the way I just love passing air or water cooled Porsches with my overheated Chevy. ... From: RCCTrackers@yahoogroups.com...
Gary Bowler
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Feb 23, 2009
3:34 pm

Are you sure that you still don't have pieces of the WG woodchuck blocking your oil cooler? ;-) Scott...
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semackler
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Feb 23, 2009
4:05 pm

Mike J We missed you at the RCC meeting last night. I hope that you are feeling better soon. We all talked about oil coolers I found the following Frugal...
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Feb 24, 2009
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<http://www.cantonracingproducts.com/cgi-bin/commerce.cgi?preadd=action&key= 23-510> 23-510 - ALUMINUM OIL COOLER 1.5" X 8" X 11" Our Price: $114.00 23-510 -...
Gary Bowler
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Feb 24, 2009
4:17 pm

Mike, Here's another data point for whatever its worth. I ran about 275-280 in 50 degree weather today at the Glen! Scott...
semackler
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May 11, 2009
2:11 am

Yes, that is what I experienced as well in the spring and fall. Those levels are acceptable. Wait until June, July, and August....
uvbnzd
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May 11, 2009
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My C6 Z51 has an engine oil cooler and trans oil cooler in the radiator. I replaced the stock radiator with a Dewitts unit with two times the capacity on the...
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