EVENT: Carbine Match
DATE: Saturday November 7th
LOCATION: **Cedar Ridge Range**
SIGN UP: **0900HRS - 0945HRS**
INFO: WWW.TEXASTACTICAL.NET
Texas Tactical will be putting on a Carbine Match
this Saturday November 7th, 2009 at the *Cedar
Ridge Range* between Austin and San Antonio,
Texas. Come one, come all...and bring a friend.
More info on the match can be found on our
webpage:
www.texastactical.net/matches/carbine.asp
The match is open to all SAFE shooters of any
age or skill level!!
Sign up is between 0900 - 0945hrs
(Please don't wait until the last minute)
Please make every effort to be ontime for signup.
For map and directions and more info on Texas
Tactical please visit our website:
WWW.TEXASTACTICAL.NET
If you have any questions or comments feel free
to email us at texastactical@...
Hope to see Y'all there!!
Thanks
Michael "Iron Mike" Webb
Texas Tactical
WWW.TEXASTACTICAL.NET
Michael "Iron Mike" Webb
Texas Tactical
WWW.TEXASTACTICAL.NET
It sounds like it is time for a little "project"......you in? TT
--- On Mon, 11/2/09, Wingate <smle41@...> wrote:
From: Wingate <smle41@...>
Subject: [Practical_Carbine] TNW Suomi
To: Practical_Carbine@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, November 2, 2009, 8:03 PM
Ladies and Gentlemen,
The carbine is back, more quickly than I expected (much more quickly than the
'big name' of Beretta) and IT WORKS. It works very well. It's trigger is not a
'match-grade' trigger as would be found on a competition rifle. In fact, the
trigger will be looked at to see if we can improve it.
However, I fired 36 rounds and it worked flawlessly as fast as I could pull that
trigger. :)
I am willing to call it a success, and it is my toast to the brave Finns. :)
Thanks,
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Ladies and Gentlemen,
The carbine is back, more quickly than I expected (much more quickly than the
'big name' of Beretta) and IT WORKS. It works very well. It's trigger is not a
'match-grade' trigger as would be found on a competition rifle. In fact, the
trigger will be looked at to see if we can improve it.
However, I fired 36 rounds and it worked flawlessly as fast as I could pull that
trigger. :)
I am willing to call it a success, and it is my toast to the brave Finns. :)
Thanks,
EVENT: 3 GUN "COMBAT" MATCH
DATE: Saturday October 31st
LOCATION: Cedar Ridge Range
SIGN UP: **0900HRS - 0945HRS**
INFO: WWW.TEXASTACTICAL.NET
ROUND COUNT:
Handgun = 40
Rifle = 50
Shotgun = 30 (Birdshot only)
Texas Tactical will be putting on a
3 GUN "COMBAT" MATCH on Saturday October 31st at
the Cedar Ridge range between Austin and San
Antonio. It will be in an IDPA style format.
Any and All Safe Shooters are welcome to attend!
If you would like to attend but do not have all 3
guns, there are usually plenty of people willing
to share a rifle or shotgun. If you bring Ammo
for the gun you are short ie: 12 guage (Birdshot)
or .223 someone will be glad to let you shoot
their gun.
Sign up: 0900 - 0945hrs
From our website:
"Texas Tactical holds 3 Gun combat matches at
various times throughout the year. The objective
of these matches is to allow people to become
more familiar with and to improve and test their
skills in a simulated CQC (close quarters combat)
environment with their 3 main defensive tools:
Rifle, Pistol and Shotgun. It also provides a
venue where shooters can show how well rounded
their "combat" skills are in one match.
Our 3 Gun Matches generally consist of 2 Handgun
stages, 2 Rifle stages and 2 Shotgun stages. We
will be using IDPA targets for the Handgun and
Rifle stages and steel, balloons and other
reactive targets for the Shotgun stages. IDPA
rules and scoring will be utilized! Use of
available cover will be required. No "competition
only" equipment may be used. All equipment must
be of a practical nature. If you have any
questions please Email us at:
texastactical@....
Map and directions to the Range can be
found on our website: WWW.TEXASTACTICAL.NET
MATCH FEE: $25
DIVISIONS OF COMPETITION:
Handgun:
Custom Defensive Pistol
Stock Service Pistol
Enhanced Service Pistol
Stock Service Revolver.
Rifle:
Iron Sights
Optical Sights
Limited Division
Limited Division is for those wishing to compete
with CCUs, Camp Carbines, Lever Actions or
anything else that has a limited ammo capacity.
(This Division will be limited to 10 rounds
maximum in your rifle.)
Battle Rifle
(Battle Rifle Division is for large caliber
service rifles, such as Fals, Galils, M1s etc.)
Shotgun: To keep a level playing field shotguns
competeing in the Manual and Autoloader Divisions
will be loaded with 6 rounds maximum to start a
COF. Open Division may start fully loaded.
Speedloaders are not permitted for any division.
(birdshot only unless otherwise stated by the
COF)
Auto Loaders
Manual
(Manual Division will include any Manually
operated shotgun, ie: Pumps, Bolt Action, Lever
Actions)
Open
(Open division is for shotguns with optics or
compensators. Shotguns used in this division may
be loaded to full capacity.)"
If You have any questions feel free to Email or
call. Hope to see y'all there!
Michael "Iron Mike" Webb
Texas Tactical
WWW.TEXASTACTICAL.NET
Michael "Iron Mike" Webb
Texas Tactical
WWW.TEXASTACTICAL.NET
Every time something like that happens to me it was something stupid
I hope somebody at Suomi manufacturing did something stupid
Yodar
words MEAN things
--- On Sat, 9/26/09, Alex Clayton <alexx1400@...> wrote:
From: Alex Clayton <alexx1400@...>
Subject: Re: [Practical_Carbine] Suomi carbine
To: Practical_Carbine@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, September 26, 2009, 9:38 PM
Always a bummer, but as you said no manufacturer is 100%. It
will say a lot about them how they handle this. So far they sound good.
"Liberalism is a mental disorder."
Michael Savage
Alex Clayton
--- On Sat, 9/26/09, smle41 <smle41@yahoo. com> wrote:
From: smle41 <smle41@yahoo. com>
Subject: [Practical_Carbine] Suomi carbine
To: Practical_Carbine@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Saturday, September 26, 2009, 5:33 PM
To all,
Well, I am mildly disappointed, as the firearm was non-functional out of the
box. However, these glitches happen from time to time, and no manufacturer is
exempt from Murphy. So, TNW is sending a UPS label have the gun go back for
repairs, free of charge. Their customer service is excellent. I really have to
hand that to them.
So, the range report will wait until it comes back.
Thanks,
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Always a bummer, but as you said no manufacturer is 100%. It will say a lot
about them how they handle this. So far they sound good.
"Liberalism is a mental disorder."
Michael Savage
Alex Clayton
--- On Sat, 9/26/09, smle41 <smle41@...> wrote:
From: smle41 <smle41@...>
Subject: [Practical_Carbine] Suomi carbine
To: Practical_Carbine@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, September 26, 2009, 5:33 PM
To all,
Well, I am mildly disappointed, as the firearm was non-functional out of the
box. However, these glitches happen from time to time, and no manufacturer is
exempt from Murphy. So, TNW is sending a UPS label have the gun go back for
repairs, free of charge. Their customer service is excellent. I really have to
hand that to them.
So, the range report will wait until it comes back.
Thanks,
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
To all,
Well, I am mildly disappointed, as the firearm was non-functional out of the
box. However, these glitches happen from time to time, and no manufacturer is
exempt from Murphy. So, TNW is sending a UPS label have the gun go back for
repairs, free of charge. Their customer service is excellent. I really have to
hand that to them.
So, the range report will wait until it comes back.
Thanks,
It was showing almost $600.00
"Liberalism is a mental disorder."
Michael Savage
Alex Clayton
--- On Sat, 9/19/09, Larry Bump <lbump@...> wrote:
From: Larry Bump <lbump@...>
Subject: Re: [Practical_Carbine] Semiauto Carbine
To: Practical_Carbine@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, September 19, 2009, 3:57 PM
Alex Clayton wrote:
> Interesting looking little carbine. Kind of pricey for a 9mm plinker, but I
will be curious to see how it works for you.
>
What are they asking? I am stuck behind a filter here at work.
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Alex Clayton wrote:
> Interesting looking little carbine. Kind of pricey for a 9mm plinker, but I
will be curious to see how it works for you.
>
What are they asking? I am stuck behind a filter here at work.
Interesting looking little carbine. Kind of pricey for a 9mm plinker, but I will
be curious to see how it works for you.
"Liberalism is a mental disorder."
Michael Savage
Alex Clayton
--- On Sat, 9/19/09, smle41 <smle41@...> wrote:
From: smle41 <smle41@...>
Subject: [Practical_Carbine] Semiauto Carbine
To: Practical_Carbine@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, September 19, 2009, 11:58 AM
Centerfire Systems is now making a legal, semiauto version of
the famous Suomi SMG. I have ordered one and will compare it to the M1 .30
Carbine.
Range report to follow...
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will be very interested in how thos goes, however comparium 9mm para to .30
carbine is apples and oranges IMO
good luck! Hearing protection here is NOT optional
Yodar
words MEAN things
--- On Sat, 9/19/09, smle41 <smle41@...> wrote:
From: smle41 <smle41@...>
Subject: [Practical_Carbine] Semiauto Carbine
To: Practical_Carbine@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, September 19, 2009, 2:58 PM
Centerfire Systems is now making a legal, semiauto version of
the famous Suomi SMG. I have ordered one and will compare it to the M1 .30
Carbine.
Range report to follow...
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Centerfire Systems is now making a legal, semiauto version of the famous Suomi
SMG. I have ordered one and will compare it to the M1 .30 Carbine.
Range report to follow...
Rich said;
"This is sort of a natural progression from late 19th century cowboys who
used the same cartridge for both their revolver and lever action carbine --
still a very good idea for today's cowboy action shooters!"
This really is a great analogy Rich, and you're 100% correct so thanks for
giving me insight. Swapping out a magazine (be it rifle or pistol) is MUCH
better than finger feeding a lever action carbine.. Does anyone have any
history with a Mech-Texh systems upper for a 1911? I'm really looking at
one of these .
Cliff
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Howdy Rich.
i have a Sig model 220 in 45 ACP, and i carry it at times with Federal
Hydra-Shok 230 grain loads..
and it IS A GREAT carry weapon.
Jim
To: Practical_Carbine@yahoogroups.com
From: rgajda@...
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 14:11:49 +0000
Subject: [Practical_Carbine] Re: Poll on carbines -- let's keep it open.
Cliff:
In addition to "one caliber, dual purpose", you can add "one magazine, multiple
firearms". I like being able to use my S&W 59 9MM pistol magazines in my Marlin
Camp 9 and my Glock 22 .40 S&W magazines with my Kel-tec 2000. There are other
examples out there. This is sort of a natural progression from late 19th century
cowboys who used the same cartridge for both their revolver and lever action
carbine -- still a very good idea for today's cowboy action shooters!
I really like pistol caliber rounds in lever action carbines (in addition to
semi-auto carbines). With the longer barrel length and better sighting options
(compared to handguns) you get more power and better accuracy with reduced
recoil that even my wife tolerates. Unfortunately although I have a .45LC lever
action I do not have a .45LC revolver (yet) so I have not had the dual-role
experience that I have had with 9MM, .40 S&W, .45 ACP, 44-40, .44
Special/Magnum, .38 Special and .357 Magnum.
I have had no problems with my Kel-tec 2000. It has been completely reliable and
accurate (for its intended range). I particularly like the sights and how little
space the 2000 takes up in my safe. It would be an excellent choice as far as
size and weight as a camping or motor home (if I had one) gun or a home defense
gun. I really like the selection of magazines supported by the different
versions of the 2000 -- Glock 17, Glock 19, S&W 59, Beretta 92, SIG 226 for 9MM
and Glock 22, S&W 4006, Beretta 96, SIG 226 for .40 S&W. You can buy the version
that takes advantage of your current favorite handgun and magazines investment.
Rich
--- In Practical_Carbine@yahoogroups.com, <cliff3520@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> Rich said;
>
> "If I limit myself to modern practical carbines in center fire pistol
> calibers (thereby eliminating my cowboy lever guns, bolt action military
> carbines, SKS's,AK's, Mini-14, .22LR carbines, etc.)"
>
>
> I actually am considering the very smart mindset of "1 caliber, dual
> purpose" as an excellent idea. So I don't want to limit this to just modern
> calibers -- I believe the .45LC is an excellent dual purpose round so let's
> hear about cowboy calibers also. And if you would please -- can you give us
> a review of your kel-tec .40 cal carbine? I only recently found out the
> joys of .40 (1911 bigot, with most of the Colt calibers, including the uber
> 10MM) but a Sig 239 in .40 sure changed my opinion QUICKLY. I have heard
> more bad than good Kel-tec, so help change my mind.
>
> Cliff
>
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Cliff:
In addition to "one caliber, dual purpose", you can add "one magazine, multiple
firearms". I like being able to use my S&W 59 9MM pistol magazines in my Marlin
Camp 9 and my Glock 22 .40 S&W magazines with my Kel-tec 2000. There are other
examples out there. This is sort of a natural progression from late 19th
century cowboys who used the same cartridge for both their revolver and lever
action carbine -- still a very good idea for today's cowboy action shooters!
I really like pistol caliber rounds in lever action carbines (in addition to
semi-auto carbines). With the longer barrel length and better sighting options
(compared to handguns) you get more power and better accuracy with reduced
recoil that even my wife tolerates. Unfortunately although I have a .45LC lever
action I do not have a .45LC revolver (yet) so I have not had the dual-role
experience that I have had with 9MM, .40 S&W, .45 ACP, 44-40, .44
Special/Magnum, .38 Special and .357 Magnum.
I have had no problems with my Kel-tec 2000. It has been completely reliable
and accurate (for its intended range). I particularly like the sights and how
little space the 2000 takes up in my safe. It would be an excellent choice as
far as size and weight as a camping or motor home (if I had one) gun or a home
defense gun. I really like the selection of magazines supported by the
different versions of the 2000 -- Glock 17, Glock 19, S&W 59, Beretta 92, SIG
226 for 9MM and Glock 22, S&W 4006, Beretta 96, SIG 226 for .40 S&W. You can
buy the version that takes advantage of your current favorite handgun and
magazines investment.
Rich
--- In Practical_Carbine@yahoogroups.com, <cliff3520@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> Rich said;
>
> "If I limit myself to modern practical carbines in center fire pistol
> calibers (thereby eliminating my cowboy lever guns, bolt action military
> carbines, SKS's,AK's, Mini-14, .22LR carbines, etc.)"
>
>
> I actually am considering the very smart mindset of "1 caliber, dual
> purpose" as an excellent idea. So I don't want to limit this to just modern
> calibers -- I believe the .45LC is an excellent dual purpose round so let's
> hear about cowboy calibers also. And if you would please -- can you give us
> a review of your kel-tec .40 cal carbine? I only recently found out the
> joys of .40 (1911 bigot, with most of the Colt calibers, including the uber
> 10MM) but a Sig 239 in .40 sure changed my opinion QUICKLY. I have heard
> more bad than good Kel-tec, so help change my mind.
>
> Cliff
>
Howdy.
my favorite caliber is the 45 in a handgun round, my favorite caliber in a rifle
is the 7MM MAG.
Jim
To: Practical_Carbine@yahoogroups.com
From: rgajda@...
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 14:38:57 +0000
Subject: [Practical_Carbine] Re: Is Practical_Carbines dead?
Cliff:
If I limit myself to modern practical carbines in centerfire pistol calibers
(thereby eliminating my cowboy lever guns, bolt action military carbines,
SKS's,AK's, Mini-14, .22LR carbines, etc.), I have the following
firearms/calibers:
Marlin Camp 9 (9MM)
Hi-Point 995 Carbine (9MM)
Kel-tec Sub 2000 (.40 S&W)
Norinco 320 (UZI clone in 9MM)
Thompson (.45 ACP)
My favorite caliber is 9MM. In these rapid fire semi-auto carbines 9MM has
enough power and the ammo is far cheaper than the alternatives.
Rich
--- In Practical_Carbine@yahoogroups.com, <cliff3520@...> wrote:
>
>
> How can we revive this group?
>
> I agree -- there has to be some knowledge out there.
>
> What about this -- a question a week.
>
> I'll start. What is the favorite caliber for your carbine ?
>
> Cliff
>
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After a couple of years of hearing nothing on the carbine list but for
announcements of IDPA matches in Texas, I sold my carbine and took up IDPA.
Guess I should quit the list...
bk
Rich said;
"If I limit myself to modern practical carbines in center fire pistol
calibers (thereby eliminating my cowboy lever guns, bolt action military
carbines, SKS's,AK's, Mini-14, .22LR carbines, etc.)"
I actually am considering the very smart mindset of "1 caliber, dual
purpose" as an excellent idea. So I don't want to limit this to just modern
calibers -- I believe the .45LC is an excellent dual purpose round so let's
hear about cowboy calibers also. And if you would please -- can you give us
a review of your kel-tec .40 cal carbine? I only recently found out the
joys of .40 (1911 bigot, with most of the Colt calibers, including the uber
10MM) but a Sig 239 in .40 sure changed my opinion QUICKLY. I have heard
more bad than good Kel-tec, so help change my mind.
Cliff
Cliff:
If I limit myself to modern practical carbines in centerfire pistol calibers
(thereby eliminating my cowboy lever guns, bolt action military carbines,
SKS's,AK's, Mini-14, .22LR carbines, etc.), I have the following
firearms/calibers:
Marlin Camp 9 (9MM)
Hi-Point 995 Carbine (9MM)
Kel-tec Sub 2000 (.40 S&W)
Norinco 320 (UZI clone in 9MM)
Thompson (.45 ACP)
My favorite caliber is 9MM. In these rapid fire semi-auto carbines 9MM has
enough power and the ammo is far cheaper than the alternatives.
Rich
--- In Practical_Carbine@yahoogroups.com, <cliff3520@...> wrote:
>
>
> How can we revive this group?
>
> I agree -- there has to be some knowledge out there.
>
> What about this -- a question a week.
>
> I'll start. What is the favorite caliber for your carbine ?
>
> Cliff
>
Howdy Larry.
i have several Winchesters and Marlin carbines, also rifles.
and a M1 carbine as well
thats a great little shooter isent it.
Jim
To: Practical_Carbine@yahoogroups.com
From: lbump@...
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 20:35:02 -0400
Subject: Re: [Practical_Carbine] Is Practical_Carbines dead?
mcgr3799@... wrote:
> I shoot an M-1 Carbine and two Marlins, 336 in 30-30 and 1894 in 44 Mag if
Marlins are considered carbines.
>
>
The 94 is for sure, and probably the 336. If it's a 20" or shorter,
it's good by me.
I shoot a Marlin 94 in .44 mag as well; as well as an M1 carbine. I
have a bunch of short barrel bolt guns as well.
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Howdy Bill.
long time no hear from lol.
glad your still around pard.
Jim
To: Practical_Carbine@yahoogroups.com
From: mcgr3799@...
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 17:03:33 -0700
Subject: Re: [Practical_Carbine] Is Practical_Carbines dead?
I shoot an M-1 Carbine and two Marlins, 336 in 30-30 and 1894 in 44 Mag if
Marlins are considered carbines.
Bill McGraw
"Somewhere South of Chicago"
Greenville, MS
--- On Wed, 6/10/09, rd_hobbies99 <subscriptions33@...> wrote:
Haven't visited the group in a while so I guess I'm part of the problem.
How can we revive this group?
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I'm guilty of not posting in a while.
AR-15 A3 W/A 16 inch barrel in .223, and AK-47 in 7.62 with a UTG railed
forend are the pair I run with. I like the AR due to the light weight, but
the 7.62 is a pretty hard hitting round. So I just got both.
In a message dated 6/10/2009 8:37:45 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
lbump@... writes:
_mcgr3799@..._ (mailto:mcgr3799@...) wrote:
> I shoot an M-1 Carbine and two Marlins, 336 in 30-30 and 1894 in 44 Mag
if Marlins are considered carbines.
>
>
The 94 is for sure, and probably the 336. If it's a 20" or shorter,
it's good by me.
I shoot a Marlin 94 in .44 mag as well; as well as an M1 carbine. I
have a bunch of short barrel bolt guns as well.
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mcgr3799@... wrote:
> I shoot an M-1 Carbine and two Marlins, 336 in 30-30 and 1894 in 44 Mag if
Marlins are considered carbines.
>
>
The 94 is for sure, and probably the 336. If it's a 20" or shorter,
it's good by me.
I shoot a Marlin 94 in .44 mag as well; as well as an M1 carbine. I
have a bunch of short barrel bolt guns as well.
I shoot an M-1 Carbine and two Marlins, 336 in 30-30 and 1894 in 44 Mag if
Marlins are considered carbines.
Bill McGraw
"Somewhere South of Chicago"
Greenville, MS
--- On Wed, 6/10/09, rd_hobbies99 <subscriptions33@...> wrote:
Haven't visited the group in a while so I guess I'm part of the problem.
How can we revive this group?
I have been busy reloading .30 carbine with newly cast 311410 bullets and
learned a simple lesson. Even on a Dillon toolhead, a Lee FCD can drifty out of
adjustment. I hadda take 50 of these back thru the reset to to iron out the
belling
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yodar
--- On Wed, 6/10/09, cliff3520@... <cliff3520@...> wrote:
From: cliff3520@... <cliff3520@...>
Subject: RE: [Practical_Carbine] Is Practical_Carbines dead?
To: Practical_Carbine@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, June 10, 2009, 5:13 PM
How can we revive this group?
I agree -- there has to be some knowledge out there.
What about this -- a question a week.
I'll start. What is the favorite caliber for your carbine ?
Cliff
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
How can we revive this group?
I agree -- there has to be some knowledge out there.
What about this -- a question a week.
I'll start. What is the favorite caliber for your carbine ?
Cliff
Howdy.
i have not visited in awhile myself.
Jim
To: Practical_Carbine@yahoogroups.com
From: subscriptions33@...
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 16:02:21 +0000
Subject: [Practical_Carbine] Is Practical_Carbines dead?
Haven't visited the group in a while so I guess I'm part of the problem.
How can we revive this group?
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> IDPA Match Saturday!
>
> EVENT: IDPA MATCH
> DATE: Saturday May 16th
> LOCATION: Cedar Ridge Range
> SIGN UP: **0900HRS - 0945HRS**
> INFO: WWW.TEXASTACTICAL.NET
>
>
> Texas Tactical will be putting on an IDPA Match
> this Saturday May 16th at the Cedar Ridge
> Range between Austin and San Antonio. Bring a
> friend or two or 3 and introduce them to all the
> fun! Everyone is welcome!
>
> If anyone would like to help with setup please
> arrive at 0800hrs OR 0900hrs sharp. The range
> owners open the gate at 0800hrs for us then they
> lock it back until 0900hrs when the range
> officially opens. Help would be greatly
> appreciated.
>
> For more info and directions check out:
>
> WWW.TEXASTACTICAL.NET
>
> Please arrive on time for sign up and promptly
> sign up. This helps us bring you a more efficient
> and enjoyable match.
>
> Depending on interest and help there will
> be a Shotgun Sidestage after the match. (Birdshot
> only)
>
> Hope to see y'all there.
>
>
>
>
> Michael "Iron Mike" Webb
> Texas Tactical
> WWW.TEXASTACTICAL.NET
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