Haven't visited the group in a while so I guess I'm part of the problem.



How can we revive this group?

Howdy.



i have not visited in awhile myself.







Jim











To: Practical_Carbine@yahoogroups.com

From: subscriptions33@...

Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 16:02:21 +0000

Subject: [Practical_Carbine] Is Practical_Carbines dead?















Haven't visited the group in a while so I guess I'm part of the problem.



How can we revive this group?





















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How can we revive this group?



  I agree -- there has to be some knowledge out there.



What about this -- a question a week.



I'll start.  What is the favorite caliber for your carbine ?



Cliff

Cliff:



If I limit myself to modern practical carbines in centerfire pistol calibers

(thereby eliminating my cowboy lever guns, bolt action military carbines,

SKS's,AK's, Mini-14, .22LR carbines, etc.), I have the following

firearms/calibers:



Marlin Camp 9 (9MM)

Hi-Point 995 Carbine (9MM)

Kel-tec Sub 2000 (.40 S&W)

Norinco 320 (UZI clone in 9MM)

Thompson (.45 ACP)



My favorite caliber is 9MM.  In these rapid fire semi-auto carbines 9MM has

enough power and the ammo is far cheaper than the alternatives.



Rich



--- In Practical_Carbine@yahoogroups.com, <cliff3520@...> wrote:

>

>

> How can we revive this group?

>

>  I agree -- there has to be some knowledge out there.

>

> What about this -- a question a week.

>

> I'll start.  What is the favorite caliber for your carbine ?

>

> Cliff

>

Rich said;



  "If I limit myself to modern practical carbines in center fire pistol

calibers (thereby eliminating my cowboy lever guns, bolt action military

carbines, SKS's,AK's, Mini-14, .22LR carbines, etc.)"





I actually am considering the very smart mindset of "1 caliber, dual

purpose" as an excellent idea.  So I don't want to limit this to just modern

calibers -- I believe the .45LC is an excellent dual purpose round so let's

hear about cowboy calibers also.  And if you would please -- can you give us

a review of your kel-tec .40 cal carbine?  I only recently found out the

joys of .40 (1911 bigot, with most of the Colt calibers, including the uber

10MM) but a Sig 239 in .40 sure changed my opinion QUICKLY.  I have heard

more bad than good Kel-tec, so help change my mind.



Cliff

Cliff:



In addition to "one caliber, dual purpose", you can add "one magazine, multiple

firearms".  I like being able to use my S&W 59 9MM pistol magazines in my Marlin

Camp 9 and my Glock 22 .40 S&W magazines with my Kel-tec 2000.  There are other

examples out there.  This is sort of a natural progression from late 19th

century cowboys who used the same cartridge for both their revolver and lever

action carbine -- still a very good idea for today's cowboy action shooters!



I really like pistol caliber rounds in lever action carbines (in addition to

semi-auto carbines).  With the longer barrel length and better sighting options

(compared to handguns) you get more power and better accuracy with reduced

recoil that even my wife tolerates.  Unfortunately although I have a .45LC lever

action I do not have a .45LC revolver (yet) so I have not had the dual-role

experience that I have had with 9MM, .40 S&W, .45 ACP, 44-40, .44

Special/Magnum, .38 Special and .357 Magnum.



I have had no problems with my Kel-tec 2000.  It has been completely reliable

and accurate (for its intended range).  I particularly like the sights and how

little space the 2000 takes up in my safe.  It would be an excellent choice as

far as size and weight as a camping or motor home (if I had one) gun or a home

defense gun.  I really like the selection of magazines supported by the

different versions of the 2000 -- Glock 17, Glock 19, S&W 59, Beretta 92, SIG

226 for 9MM and Glock 22, S&W 4006, Beretta 96, SIG 226 for .40 S&W.  You can

buy the version that takes advantage of your current favorite handgun and

magazines investment.



Rich



--- In Practical_Carbine@yahoogroups.com, <cliff3520@...> wrote:

>

>

>

> Rich said;

>

>  "If I limit myself to modern practical carbines in center fire pistol

> calibers (thereby eliminating my cowboy lever guns, bolt action military

> carbines, SKS's,AK's, Mini-14, .22LR carbines, etc.)"

>

>

> I actually am considering the very smart mindset of "1 caliber, dual

> purpose" as an excellent idea.  So I don't want to limit this to just modern

> calibers -- I believe the .45LC is an excellent dual purpose round so let's

> hear about cowboy calibers also.  And if you would please -- can you give us

> a review of your kel-tec .40 cal carbine?  I only recently found out the

> joys of .40 (1911 bigot, with most of the Colt calibers, including the uber

> 10MM) but a Sig 239 in .40 sure changed my opinion QUICKLY.  I have heard

> more bad than good Kel-tec, so help change my mind.

>

> Cliff

>

Howdy Rich.



i have a Sig model 220 in 45 ACP, and i carry it at times with Federal

Hydra-Shok 230 grain loads..



and it IS A GREAT carry weapon.



Jim











To: Practical_Carbine@yahoogroups.com

From: rgajda@...

Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 14:11:49 +0000

Subject: [Practical_Carbine] Re: Poll on carbines -- let's keep it open.















Cliff:



In addition to "one caliber, dual purpose", you can add "one magazine, multiple

firearms". I like being able to use my S&W 59 9MM pistol magazines in my Marlin

Camp 9 and my Glock 22 .40 S&W magazines with my Kel-tec 2000. There are other

examples out there. This is sort of a natural progression from late 19th century

cowboys who used the same cartridge for both their revolver and lever action

carbine -- still a very good idea for today's cowboy action shooters!



I really like pistol caliber rounds in lever action carbines (in addition to

semi-auto carbines). With the longer barrel length and better sighting options

(compared to handguns) you get more power and better accuracy with reduced

recoil that even my wife tolerates. Unfortunately although I have a .45LC lever

action I do not have a .45LC revolver (yet) so I have not had the dual-role

experience that I have had with 9MM, .40 S&W, .45 ACP, 44-40, .44

Special/Magnum, .38 Special and .357 Magnum.



I have had no problems with my Kel-tec 2000. It has been completely reliable and

accurate (for its intended range). I particularly like the sights and how little

space the 2000 takes up in my safe. It would be an excellent choice as far as

size and weight as a camping or motor home (if I had one) gun or a home defense

gun. I really like the selection of magazines supported by the different

versions of the 2000 -- Glock 17, Glock 19, S&W 59, Beretta 92, SIG 226 for 9MM

and Glock 22, S&W 4006, Beretta 96, SIG 226 for .40 S&W. You can buy the version

that takes advantage of your current favorite handgun and magazines investment.



Rich



--- In Practical_Carbine@yahoogroups.com, <cliff3520@...> wrote:

>

>

>

> Rich said;

>

> "If I limit myself to modern practical carbines in center fire pistol

> calibers (thereby eliminating my cowboy lever guns, bolt action military

> carbines, SKS's,AK's, Mini-14, .22LR carbines, etc.)"

>

>

> I actually am considering the very smart mindset of "1 caliber, dual

> purpose" as an excellent idea. So I don't want to limit this to just modern

> calibers -- I believe the .45LC is an excellent dual purpose round so let's

> hear about cowboy calibers also. And if you would please -- can you give us

> a review of your kel-tec .40 cal carbine? I only recently found out the

> joys of .40 (1911 bigot, with most of the Colt calibers, including the uber

> 10MM) but a Sig 239 in .40 sure changed my opinion QUICKLY. I have heard

> more bad than good Kel-tec, so help change my mind.

>

> Cliff

>





















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Rich said;



"This is sort of a natural progression from late 19th century cowboys who

used the same cartridge for both their revolver and lever action carbine --

still a very good idea for today's cowboy action shooters!"



This really is a great analogy Rich, and you're 100% correct so thanks for

giving me insight.  Swapping out a magazine (be it rifle or pistol) is MUCH

better than finger feeding a lever action carbine..  Does anyone have any

history with a Mech-Texh systems upper for a 1911?  I'm really looking at

one of these .



Cliff



__

Howdy.



my favorite caliber is the 45 in a handgun round, my favorite caliber in a rifle

is the 7MM MAG.











Jim











To: Practical_Carbine@yahoogroups.com

From: rgajda@...

Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 14:38:57 +0000

Subject: [Practical_Carbine] Re: Is Practical_Carbines dead?















Cliff:



If I limit myself to modern practical carbines in centerfire pistol calibers

(thereby eliminating my cowboy lever guns, bolt action military carbines,

SKS's,AK's, Mini-14, .22LR carbines, etc.), I have the following

firearms/calibers:



Marlin Camp 9 (9MM)

Hi-Point 995 Carbine (9MM)

Kel-tec Sub 2000 (.40 S&W)

Norinco 320 (UZI clone in 9MM)

Thompson (.45 ACP)



My favorite caliber is 9MM. In these rapid fire semi-auto carbines 9MM has

enough power and the ammo is far cheaper than the alternatives.



Rich



--- In Practical_Carbine@yahoogroups.com, <cliff3520@...> wrote:

>

>

> How can we revive this group?

>

> I agree -- there has to be some knowledge out there.

>

> What about this -- a question a week.

>

> I'll start. What is the favorite caliber for your carbine ?

>

> Cliff

>





















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I have been busy reloading .30 carbine with newly cast 311410 bullets and

learned a simple lesson. Even on a Dillon toolhead, a Lee FCD can drifty out of

adjustment. I hadda take 50 of these back thru the reset to to iron out the

belling



http://pic20.picturetrail.com:80/VOL1229/6309647/21832681/365571438.jpg



yodar





--- On Wed, 6/10/09, cliff3520@... <cliff3520@...> wrote:



From: cliff3520@... <cliff3520@...>

Subject: RE: [Practical_Carbine] Is Practical_Carbines dead?

To: Practical_Carbine@yahoogroups.com

Date: Wednesday, June 10, 2009, 5:13 PM







































How can we revive this group?







I agree -- there has to be some knowledge out there.







What about this -- a question a week.







I'll start.  What is the favorite caliber for your carbine ?







Cliff































































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I shoot an M-1 Carbine and two Marlins, 336 in 30-30 and 1894 in 44 Mag if

Marlins are considered carbines.



Bill McGraw



"Somewhere South of Chicago"



Greenville, MS



--- On Wed, 6/10/09, rd_hobbies99 <subscriptions33@...> wrote:



Haven't visited the group in a while so I guess I'm part of the problem.



How can we revive this group?

mcgr3799@... wrote:

> I shoot an M-1 Carbine and two Marlins, 336 in 30-30 and 1894 in 44 Mag if

Marlins are considered carbines.

>

>



The 94 is for sure, and probably the 336.  If it's a 20" or shorter,

it's good by me.



I shoot a Marlin 94 in .44 mag as well; as well as an M1 carbine.  I

have a bunch of short barrel bolt guns as well.

Howdy Larry.



i have several Winchesters and Marlin carbines, also rifles.



and a M1 carbine as well



thats a great little shooter isent it.







Jim











To: Practical_Carbine@yahoogroups.com

From: lbump@...

Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 20:35:02 -0400

Subject: Re: [Practical_Carbine] Is Practical_Carbines dead?















mcgr3799@... wrote:

> I shoot an M-1 Carbine and two Marlins, 336 in 30-30 and 1894 in 44 Mag if

Marlins are considered carbines.

>

>



The 94 is for sure, and probably the 336. If it's a 20" or shorter,

it's good by me.



I shoot a Marlin 94 in .44 mag as well; as well as an M1 carbine. I

have a bunch of short barrel bolt guns as well.





















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Howdy Bill.



long time no hear from lol.



glad your still around pard.







Jim











To: Practical_Carbine@yahoogroups.com

From: mcgr3799@...

Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 17:03:33 -0700

Subject: Re: [Practical_Carbine] Is Practical_Carbines dead?

















I shoot an M-1 Carbine and two Marlins, 336 in 30-30 and 1894 in 44 Mag if

Marlins are considered carbines.



Bill McGraw



"Somewhere South of Chicago"



Greenville, MS



--- On Wed, 6/10/09, rd_hobbies99 <subscriptions33@...> wrote:



Haven't visited the group in a while so I guess I'm part of the problem.



How can we revive this group?





















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I'm guilty of not posting in a while.



AR-15 A3 W/A 16 inch barrel in .223, and AK-47 in 7.62 with a UTG railed

forend are the pair I run with. I like the AR due to the light weight,  but

the 7.62 is a pretty hard hitting round. So I just got both.





In a message dated 6/10/2009 8:37:45 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

lbump@... writes:











_mcgr3799@..._ (mailto:mcgr3799@...)   wrote:

> I shoot an M-1 Carbine and two Marlins, 336 in 30-30 and 1894  in 44 Mag

if Marlins are considered carbines.

>

>



The 94  is for sure, and probably the 336. If it's a 20" or shorter,

it's good by  me.



I shoot a Marlin 94 in .44 mag as well; as well as an M1 carbine. I

have a bunch of short barrel bolt guns as well.











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