> IDPA Match Saturday!
>
> EVENT: IDPA MATCH
> DATE: Saturday May 16th
> LOCATION: Cedar Ridge Range
> SIGN UP: **0900HRS - 0945HRS**
> INFO: WWW.TEXASTACTICAL.NET
>
>
> Texas Tactical will be putting on an IDPA Match
> this Saturday May 16th at the Cedar Ridge
> Range between Austin and San Antonio. Bring a
> friend or two or 3 and introduce them to all the
> fun! Everyone is welcome!
>
> If anyone would like to help with setup please
> arrive at 0800hrs OR 0900hrs sharp. The range
> owners open the gate at 0800hrs for us then they
> lock it back until 0900hrs when the range
> officially opens. Help would be greatly
> appreciated.
>
> For more info and directions check out:
>
> WWW.TEXASTACTICAL.NET
>
> Please arrive on time for sign up and promptly
> sign up. This helps us bring you a more efficient
> and enjoyable match.
>
> Depending on interest and help there will
> be a Shotgun Sidestage after the match. (Birdshot
> only)
>
> Hope to see y'all there.
>
>
>
>
> Michael "Iron Mike" Webb
> Texas Tactical
> WWW.TEXASTACTICAL.NET
>
>
>
>
>      
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>     mailto:TEXASTACTICAL-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com
>
>
>

Morning,

The field rest in the press release weighs about 1-1/4 lbs.

Montie






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Howdy Yoder..

looks like a good design.

do you have any idea how much it weighs??



Jim





To: Practical_Carbine@yahoogroups.com
From: cz52_99@...
Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 17:23:54 -0700
Subject: Re: [Practical_Carbine] Press Release - Lightweight Shooting Rest







Publishing this url  and a mention to listers that they might enjoy the elegant
simplicity of your design and please check it out.

http://www.montie.com/modules/info/files/files_4a00b156aabf7.pdf


THEN naturally your raison d'etre would come into play

THAT would have been better

K.I.S.S. !

some of us old farts can only DO it THAT way !


yodar

--- On Tue, 5/5/09, Montie Roland <montieroland@...> wrote:

From: Montie Roland <montieroland@...>
Subject: [Practical_Carbine] Press Release - Lightweight Shooting Rest
To: Practical_Carbine@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, May 5, 2009, 8:02 PM

Morning Fellow Shooters,

I own a small design firm in NC. We normally design products for other
companies. A few months ago we decided to create our own products. Since we have
several shooters (including me) at the office we thought that a product for the
firearms industry would fun! Here is the press release for our new shooting
rest. If you get a chance check it out on our website and let me know what you
think.

Cheers,
Montie
montie@montie. com
www.montie.com

------------ --------- --------- -----

New Portable Shooting Rest Released by Montie Design

(Morrisville, N.C.) Collaborative product design and development firm Montie
Design announces the availability of its unique portable shooting rest, the
second original product conceived, designed, and distributed by the RTP-based
company in the last nine months.

Designed to meet the needs of the majority of shooters, and most firearms, the
easy-to-carry rest weighs less than two pounds and disassembles easily in three
pieces, fitting neatly into a small carrying pouch. Unlike conventional bench
rests, which are heavy and complex, the novel Montie Design model -- made of
sturdy yet lightweight aluminum -- provides steady support for different sized
firearms ranging from semi-automatic and bolt action rifles to shotguns,
carbines and pistols from a prone position or bench rest.

"There's nothing like this on the market," said Montie Roland, president of
Montie Design and active shooting enthusiast. Roland, who used to shoot
competitively and has a daughter on a local junior rifle team, said he got the
idea for the product after tiring of carrying around a conventional combination
of a heavy rest and sand bags for recreational shooting.

"I realized that a lighter weight version would serve the recreational shooter
better,"
he said.

Karl Frank, business development manager at Montie Design, received positive
feedback on the portable shooting rest at the recent Special Operations trade
show in Fayetteville, N.C. "The X-Rest also has military or police applications.
It is useful in training environments, sniper deployment and for sighting in and
maintenance operations," Frank, whose background includes experience developing
fire arms and tactical equipment for military applications.

Roland said the idea for the product came not only from personal experience but
also from what he saw as the market prospects for such a product. Nationally,
approximately 200 companies are actively involved in the U.S. firearms industry,
combining for an annual revenue of $2 billion. In the Triangle region of North
Carolina there are more than five shooting ranges and multiple firearms
retailers, not to mention major chains selling guns and ammo to hunters and
competitive shooters.

The design and distribution of the shooting rest comes on the heels of Montie
Design's innovative radio frequency identification (RFID) detector card which
was released in January and is now being sold throughout the U.S. and seven
foreign countries.

"Sometimes there is no better way for a design firm to find the next client than
to show off a simple, well-designed product to a potential client and say, `we
did this in our spare time, imagine what we could do for your product line,'"
Roland said, adding that concrete examples like the RFID detector and portable
shooting rest show initiative, leadership and capability to his clients.

Both the RFID detector and the shooting rest are produced in the Research
Triangle Park region of North Carolina, using local manufacturers.

"The Triangle is full of ideas for great products and many innovative, quality
firms with talented professionals who can produce, market, and distribute those
products throughout the world," Roland said. ADR Hydrocut, a veteran owned,
Morrisville company that waterjets the parts for the portable shooting rest was
instrumental in the development of the product.

According to Frank, ADR Hydrocut provided prototypes and extremely valuable
input. "Having the manufacturer literally just down the street made the
development process much easier and convenient. We call this approach `Made
Right Here,'" he said.

Future plans for the portable shooting rest include releasing drawings and
design specs as open source in addition to designing an adjustable,
pistol-oriented version of the product.

To learn more, or purchase the new shooting rest or RFID Radiation Detector,
visit www.montie.com.

About Montie Design

Montie Design is a collaborative product design and development firm with core
competencies in industrial design, mechanical design and fuzzy front end
services. Implementing a client-centric approach in taking products from concept
to marketplace, Montie Design balances vision with usability in realizing
products that are economical to manufacture, elegant and robust. The firm
operates out of the Research Triangle Park region of North Carolina with access
to industry-leading technology, resources and innovative thought. For more
information, visit www.montie.com.

Media Contact:
Montie Roland
montie@montie. com
800-722-7987
919-412-0559 [cell]

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]










[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Publishing this url  and a mention to listers that they might enjoy the elegant
simplicity of your design and please check it out.
 
http://www.montie.com/modules/info/files/files_4a00b156aabf7.pdf
 
 
THEN naturally your raison d'etre would come into play
 
THAT would have been better
 
K.I.S.S. !
 
some of us old farts can only DO it THAT way !
 

yodar


--- On Tue, 5/5/09, Montie Roland <montieroland@...> wrote:

From: Montie Roland <montieroland@...>
Subject: [Practical_Carbine] Press Release - Lightweight Shooting Rest
To: Practical_Carbine@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, May 5, 2009, 8:02 PM








Morning Fellow Shooters,

I own a small design firm in NC. We normally design products for other
companies. A few months ago we decided to create our own products. Since we have
several shooters (including me) at the office we thought that a product for the
firearms industry would fun! Here is the press release for our new shooting
rest. If you get a chance check it out on our website and let me know what you
think.

Cheers,
Montie
montie@montie. com
www.montie.com

------------ --------- --------- -----

New Portable Shooting Rest Released by Montie Design

(Morrisville, N.C.) Collaborative product design and development firm Montie
Design announces the availability of its unique portable shooting rest, the
second original product conceived, designed, and distributed by the RTP-based
company in the last nine months.

Designed to meet the needs of the majority of shooters, and most firearms, the
easy-to-carry rest weighs less than two pounds and disassembles easily in three
pieces, fitting neatly into a small carrying pouch. Unlike conventional bench
rests, which are heavy and complex, the novel Montie Design model -- made of
sturdy yet lightweight aluminum -- provides steady support for different sized
firearms ranging from semi-automatic and bolt action rifles to shotguns,
carbines and pistols from a prone position or bench rest.

"There's nothing like this on the market," said Montie Roland, president of
Montie Design and active shooting enthusiast. Roland, who used to shoot
competitively and has a daughter on a local junior rifle team, said he got the
idea for the product after tiring of carrying around a conventional combination
of a heavy rest and sand bags for recreational shooting.

"I realized that a lighter weight version would serve the recreational shooter
better,"
he said.

Karl Frank, business development manager at Montie Design, received positive
feedback on the portable shooting rest at the recent Special Operations trade
show in Fayetteville, N.C. "The X-Rest also has military or police applications.
It is useful in training environments, sniper deployment and for sighting in and
maintenance operations," Frank, whose background includes experience developing
fire arms and tactical equipment for military applications.

Roland said the idea for the product came not only from personal experience but
also from what he saw as the market prospects for such a product. Nationally,
approximately 200 companies are actively involved in the U.S. firearms industry,
combining for an annual revenue of $2 billion. In the Triangle region of North
Carolina there are more than five shooting ranges and multiple firearms
retailers, not to mention major chains selling guns and ammo to hunters and
competitive shooters.

The design and distribution of the shooting rest comes on the heels of Montie
Design's innovative radio frequency identification (RFID) detector card which
was released in January and is now being sold throughout the U.S. and seven
foreign countries.

"Sometimes there is no better way for a design firm to find the next client than
to show off a simple, well-designed product to a potential client and say, `we
did this in our spare time, imagine what we could do for your product line,'"
Roland said, adding that concrete examples like the RFID detector and portable
shooting rest show initiative, leadership and capability to his clients.

Both the RFID detector and the shooting rest are produced in the Research
Triangle Park region of North Carolina, using local manufacturers.

"The Triangle is full of ideas for great products and many innovative, quality
firms with talented professionals who can produce, market, and distribute those
products throughout the world," Roland said. ADR Hydrocut, a veteran owned,
Morrisville company that waterjets the parts for the portable shooting rest was
instrumental in the development of the product.

According to Frank, ADR Hydrocut provided prototypes and extremely valuable
input. "Having the manufacturer literally just down the street made the
development process much easier and convenient. We call this approach `Made
Right Here,'" he said.

Future plans for the portable shooting rest include releasing drawings and
design specs as open source in addition to designing an adjustable,
pistol-oriented version of the product.

To learn more, or purchase the new shooting rest or RFID Radiation Detector,
visit www.montie.com.

About Montie Design

Montie Design is a collaborative product design and development firm with core
competencies in industrial design, mechanical design and fuzzy front end
services. Implementing a client-centric approach in taking products from concept
to marketplace, Montie Design balances vision with usability in realizing
products that are economical to manufacture, elegant and robust. The firm
operates out of the Research Triangle Park region of North Carolina with access
to industry-leading technology, resources and innovative thought. For more
information, visit www.montie.com.

Media Contact:
Montie Roland
montie@montie. com
800-722-7987
919-412-0559 [cell]



















[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Morning Fellow Shooters,

I own a small design firm in NC.  We normally design products for other
companies.  A few months ago we decided to create our own products.  Since we
have several shooters (including me) at the office we thought that a product for
the firearms industry would fun!  Here is the press release for our new shooting
rest.  If you get a chance check it out on our website and let me know what you
think.

Cheers,
Montie
montie@...
www.montie.com

-----------------------------------

New Portable Shooting Rest Released by Montie Design

(Morrisville, N.C.) Collaborative product design and development firm Montie
Design announces the availability of its unique portable shooting rest, the
second original product conceived, designed, and distributed by the RTP-based
company in the last nine months.

Designed to meet the needs of the majority of shooters, and most firearms, the
easy-to-carry rest weighs less than two pounds and disassembles easily in three
pieces, fitting neatly into a small carrying pouch. Unlike conventional bench
rests, which are heavy and complex, the novel Montie Design model -- made of
sturdy yet lightweight aluminum -- provides steady support for different sized
firearms ranging from semi-automatic and bolt action rifles to shotguns,
carbines and pistols from a prone position or bench rest.

"There's nothing like this on the market," said Montie Roland, president of
Montie Design and active shooting enthusiast. Roland, who used to shoot
competitively and has a daughter on a local junior rifle team, said he got the
idea for the product after tiring of carrying around a conventional combination
of a heavy rest and sand bags for recreational shooting.

"I realized that a lighter weight version   would serve the recreational shooter
better,"
  he said.

Karl Frank, business development manager at Montie Design, received positive
feedback on the portable shooting rest at the recent Special Operations trade
show in Fayetteville, N.C. "The X-Rest also has military or police applications.
It is useful in training environments, sniper deployment and for sighting in and
maintenance operations," Frank, whose background includes experience developing
fire arms and tactical equipment for military applications.

Roland said the idea for the product came not only from personal experience but
also from what he saw as the market prospects for such a product. Nationally,
approximately 200 companies are actively involved in the U.S. firearms industry,
combining for an annual revenue of $2 billion. In the Triangle region of North
Carolina there are more than five shooting ranges and multiple firearms
retailers, not to mention major chains selling guns and ammo to hunters and
competitive shooters.

The design and distribution of the shooting rest comes on the heels of Montie
Design's innovative radio frequency identification (RFID) detector card which
was released in January and is now being sold throughout the U.S. and seven
foreign countries.

"Sometimes there is no better way for a design firm to find the next client than
to show off a simple, well-designed product to a potential client and say, `we
did this in our spare time, imagine what we could do for your product line,'"
Roland said, adding that concrete examples like the RFID detector and portable
shooting rest show initiative, leadership and capability to his clients.

Both the RFID detector and the shooting rest are produced in the Research
Triangle Park region of North Carolina, using local manufacturers.

"The Triangle is full of ideas for great products and many innovative, quality
firms with talented professionals who can produce, market, and distribute those
products throughout the world," Roland said. ADR Hydrocut, a veteran owned,
Morrisville company that waterjets the parts for the portable shooting rest was
instrumental in the development of the product.

According to Frank, ADR Hydrocut provided prototypes and extremely valuable
input. "Having the manufacturer literally just down the street made the
development process much easier and convenient.  We call this approach `Made
Right Here,'" he said.

Future plans for the portable shooting rest include releasing  drawings and
design specs as open source in addition to designing an adjustable,
pistol-oriented version of the product.

To learn more, or purchase the new shooting rest or RFID Radiation Detector,
visit www.montie.com.

About Montie Design

Montie Design is a collaborative product design and development firm with core
competencies in industrial design, mechanical design and fuzzy front end
services. Implementing a client-centric approach in taking products from concept
to marketplace, Montie Design balances vision with usability in realizing
products that are economical to manufacture, elegant and robust. The firm
operates out of the Research Triangle Park region of North Carolina with access
to industry-leading technology, resources and innovative thought. For more
information, visit www.montie.com.

Media Contact:
Montie Roland
montie@...
800-722-7987
919-412-0559 [cell]

Morning Fellow Shooters,

This is our first product for firearms.  We normally design products for other
companies, but since we have a group of shooters at the company, we decided to
design something for the sport we enjoy so much.

Cheers,
Montie
www.montie.com

------------------------

New Portable Shooting Rest Released by Montie Design

(Morrisville, N.C.) Collaborative product design and development firm Montie
Design announces the availability of its unique portable shooting rest, the
second original product conceived, designed, and distributed by the RTP-based
company in the last nine months.

Designed to meet the needs of the majority of shooters, and most firearms, the
easy-to-carry rest weighs less than two pounds and disassembles easily in three
pieces, fitting neatly into a small carrying pouch. Unlike conventional bench
rests, which are heavy and complex, the novel Montie Design model -- made of
sturdy yet lightweight aluminum -- provides steady support for different sized
firearms ranging from semi-automatic and bolt action rifles to shotguns,
carbines and pistols from a prone position or bench rest.

"There's nothing like this on the market," said Montie Roland, president of
Montie Design and active shooting enthusiast. Roland, who used to shoot
competitively and has a daughter on a local junior rifle team, said he got the
idea for the product after tiring of carrying around a conventional combination
of a heavy rest and sand bags for recreational shooting.

"I realized that a lighter weight version   would serve the recreational shooter
better,"
  he said.

Karl Frank, business development manager at Montie Design, received positive
feedback on the portable shooting rest at the recent Special Operations trade
show in Fayetteville, N.C. "The X-Rest also has military or police applications.
It is useful in training environments, sniper deployment and for sighting in and
maintenance operations," Frank, whose background includes experience developing
fire arms and tactical equipment for military applications.


(more)
New Portable Shooting Rest Released by Montie Design
2-2-2-2

Roland said the idea for the product came not only from personal experience but
also from what he saw as the market prospects for such a product. Nationally,
approximately 200 companies are actively involved in the U.S. firearms industry,
combining for an annual revenue of $2 billion. In the Triangle region of North
Carolina there are more than five shooting ranges and multiple firearms
retailers, not to mention major chains selling guns and ammo to hunters and
competitive shooters.

The design and distribution of the shooting rest comes on the heels of Montie
Design's innovative radio frequency identification (RFID) detector card which
was released in January and is now being sold throughout the U.S. and seven
foreign countries.

"Sometimes there is no better way for a design firm to find the next client than
to show off a simple, well-designed product to a potential client and say, `we
did this in our spare time, imagine what we could do for your product line,'"
Roland said, adding that concrete examples like the RFID detector and portable
shooting rest show initiative, leadership and capability to his clients.

Both the RFID detector and the shooting rest are produced in the Research
Triangle Park region of North Carolina, using local manufacturers.

"The Triangle is full of ideas for great products and many innovative, quality
firms with talented professionals who can produce, market, and distribute those
products throughout the world," Roland said. ADR Hydrocut, a veteran owned,
Morrisville company that waterjets the parts for the portable shooting rest was
instrumental in the development of the product.

According to Frank, ADR Hydrocut provided prototypes and extremely valuable
input. "Having the manufacturer literally just down the street made the
development process much easier and convenient.  We call this approach `Made
Right Here,'" he said.

Future plans for the portable shooting rest include releasing  drawings and
design specs as open source in addition to designing an adjustable,
pistol-oriented version of the product.

To learn more, or purchase the new shooting rest or RFID Radiation Detector,
visit www.montie.com.

About Montie Design

Montie Design is a collaborative product design and development firm with core
competencies

(more)
New Portable Shooting Rest Released by Montie Design
3-3-3-3

in industrial design, mechanical design and fuzzy front end services.
Implementing a client-centric approach in taking products from concept to
marketplace, Montie Design balances vision with usability in realizing products
that are economical to manufacture, elegant and robust. The firm operates out of
the Research Triangle Park region of North Carolina with access to
industry-leading technology, resources and innovative thought. For more
information, visit www.montie.com.

Media Contact:
Montie Roland
montie@...
800-722-7987
919-412-0559 [cell]

# # #

I have a Winchester Low Wall chambered for 32 Long with a few barrel
pits and would like it converted to a center fire cartridge.

My interest is not in holding this gun for appreciation nor for hunting
small game but rather just plinking.

I would like to have the current barrel relined and chambered for a
currently available, [i.e., read cheaper]  cartridge such as a 32 H&R
Magnum, 32-20 Winchester or similar cartridge.

Conversion of a rimfire barrel to a centerfire barrel is problematic and
may be prohibitive in cost.

It will require some degree of Hammer/Firing pin modification to insure
ignition.

   I won't know until I can locate someone, with references, who can
do the job and will give me a cost estimate.

Can a member of this group suggest such a person and give that gunsmith
who would be so interested an opportunity to send me an email to discuss
the nature of this project?

Responses can be sent to the following:

WHEELER
LONGVIEW/KELSO
Washington State
forkhorn@...  or  wearyfox@...



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IDPA Match Sunday!

EVENT: IDPA MATCH
DATE: Sunday April 26th
LOCATION: Cedar Ridge Range
SIGN UP: **0900HRS - 0945HRS**
INFO: WWW.TEXASTACTICAL.NET


Texas Tactical will be putting on an IDPA Match
this Sunday April 26th at the Cedar Ridge
Range between Austin and San Antonio. Bring a
friend or two or 3 and introduce them to all the
fun! Everyone is welcome!

If anyone would like to help with setup please
arrive at 0800hrs OR 0900hrs sharp. The range
owners open the gate at 0800hrs for us then they
lock it back until 0900hrs when the range
officially opens. Help would be greatly
appreciated.

For more info and directions check out:

WWW.TEXASTACTICAL.NET

Please arrive on time for sign up and promptly
sign up. This helps us bring you a more efficient
and enjoyable match.

Depending on interest and help there will
be a Shotgun Sidestage after the match. (Birdshot
only)

Hope to see y'all there.

Michael "Iron Mike" Webb
Texas Tactical
WWW.TEXASTACTICAL.NET

Michael "Iron Mike" Webb
Texas Tactical
WWW.TEXASTACTICAL.NET

IDPA Match Saturday!

EVENT: IDPA MATCH
DATE: Saturday March 21st
LOCATION: Cedar Ridge Range
SIGN UP: **0900HRS - 0945HRS**
INFO: WWW.TEXASTACTICAL.NET


Texas Tactical will be putting on an IDPA Match
this Saturday March 21st at the Cedar Ridge
Range between Austin and San Antonio. Bring a
friend or two and introduce them to all the
fun! Everyone is welcome!

If anyone would like to help with setup please
arrive at 0800hrs OR 0900hrs sharp. The range
owners open the gate at 0800hrs for us then they
lock it back until 0900hrs when the range
officially opens. Help would be greatly
appreciated.

For more info and directions check out:

WWW.TEXASTACTICAL.NET

Please arrive on time for sign up and promptly
sign up. This helps us bring you a more efficient
and enjoyable match.

Depending on interest and help there will
be a Shotgun Sidestage after the match. (Birdshot
only)

Hope to see y'all there.




Michael "Iron Mike" Webb
Texas Tactical
WWW.TEXASTACTICAL.NET

Michael "Iron Mike" Webb
Texas Tactical
WWW.TEXASTACTICAL.NET

I found these C products mags.
here is the link..
http://www.palmettostatearmory.com/c-product-223.php
Craig

--- In Practical_Carbine@yahoogroups.com, "Sherrill D. Colford Jr"
<spudcol@...> wrote:
>
> The C Products magizanes are $17.99 for all sizes, 10, 20 and 32
> rounder's the url is https://www.cproductsllc.com/ I am ordering 7
> magazines today, I will report back on how they work out.
>
>
> >
> > How much and where are the C products mags?
> > thanks
> > Craig
> >
> > --- In Practical_Carbine@yahoogroups.com, "Sherrill D. Colford Jr"
> > <spudcol@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I beleave Bushmaster's magazines are made by C Products with the
> > > Bushmaster Logo added, and for that they charge about 50% more
> than
> > > what I can get them direct from C Products for.
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Have you tried Bushmaster Mags  in 9mm????
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > >
> > > > Graham in OZ
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > From: Practical_Carbine@yahoogroups.com
> > > > [mailto:Practical_Carbine@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> Sherrill D.
> > > Colford
> > > > Jr
> > > > Sent: Friday, 13 February 2009 4:09 AM
> > > > To: Practical_Carbine@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Subject: [Practical_Carbine] C Products 9mm AR 15 magazines
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I find myself in need of replacment magazines for my Colt 9mm
> Ar
> > > 15, I
> > > > got 3 Magazines from another maker last year and the quality is
> > > less
> > > > than outstanding. They fit poorly and feed even less than
> poorly.
> > > > Colt magazines have gone out of sight on price. The C Products
> 32
> > > rd
> > > > magazines are priced right. Does anyone else on this list have
> > > > experance with the C Products 9mm magazines.
> > > >
> > > > Thank-you for your replys
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

The C Products magizanes are $17.99 for all sizes, 10, 20 and 32
rounder's the url is https://www.cproductsllc.com/ I am ordering 7
magazines today, I will report back on how they work out.


>
> How much and where are the C products mags?
> thanks
> Craig
>
> --- In Practical_Carbine@yahoogroups.com, "Sherrill D. Colford Jr"
> <spudcol@> wrote:
> >
> > I beleave Bushmaster's magazines are made by C Products with the
> > Bushmaster Logo added, and for that they charge about 50% more
than
> > what I can get them direct from C Products for.
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Have you tried Bushmaster Mags  in 9mm????
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > > Graham in OZ
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > From: Practical_Carbine@yahoogroups.com
> > > [mailto:Practical_Carbine@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Sherrill D.
> > Colford
> > > Jr
> > > Sent: Friday, 13 February 2009 4:09 AM
> > > To: Practical_Carbine@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [Practical_Carbine] C Products 9mm AR 15 magazines
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I find myself in need of replacment magazines for my Colt 9mm
Ar
> > 15, I
> > > got 3 Magazines from another maker last year and the quality is
> > less
> > > than outstanding. They fit poorly and feed even less than
poorly.
> > > Colt magazines have gone out of sight on price. The C Products
32
> > rd
> > > magazines are priced right. Does anyone else on this list have
> > > experance with the C Products 9mm magazines.
> > >
> > > Thank-you for your replys
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
>

How much and where are the C products mags?
thanks
Craig

--- In Practical_Carbine@yahoogroups.com, "Sherrill D. Colford Jr"
<spudcol@...> wrote:
>
> I beleave Bushmaster's magazines are made by C Products with the
> Bushmaster Logo added, and for that they charge about 50% more than
> what I can get them direct from C Products for.
>
>
> >
> > Have you tried Bushmaster Mags  in 9mm????
> >
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Graham in OZ
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Practical_Carbine@yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:Practical_Carbine@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Sherrill D.
> Colford
> > Jr
> > Sent: Friday, 13 February 2009 4:09 AM
> > To: Practical_Carbine@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [Practical_Carbine] C Products 9mm AR 15 magazines
> >
> >
> >
> > I find myself in need of replacment magazines for my Colt 9mm Ar
> 15, I
> > got 3 Magazines from another maker last year and the quality is
> less
> > than outstanding. They fit poorly and feed even less than poorly.
> > Colt magazines have gone out of sight on price. The C Products 32
> rd
> > magazines are priced right. Does anyone else on this list have
> > experance with the C Products 9mm magazines.
> >
> > Thank-you for your replys
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>

Here is a link you may find helpful.
http://gun-deals.com/ammo.php
Craig

I beleave Bushmaster's magazines are made by C Products with the
Bushmaster Logo added, and for that they charge about 50% more than
what I can get them direct from C Products for.


>
> Have you tried Bushmaster Mags  in 9mm????
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Graham in OZ
>
>
>
> From: Practical_Carbine@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:Practical_Carbine@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Sherrill D.
Colford
> Jr
> Sent: Friday, 13 February 2009 4:09 AM
> To: Practical_Carbine@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Practical_Carbine] C Products 9mm AR 15 magazines
>
>
>
> I find myself in need of replacment magazines for my Colt 9mm Ar
15, I
> got 3 Magazines from another maker last year and the quality is
less
> than outstanding. They fit poorly and feed even less than poorly.
> Colt magazines have gone out of sight on price. The C Products 32
rd
> magazines are priced right. Does anyone else on this list have
> experance with the C Products 9mm magazines.
>
> Thank-you for your replys
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Have you tried Bushmaster Mags  in 9mm????



Cheers,

Graham in OZ



From: Practical_Carbine@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:Practical_Carbine@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Sherrill D. Colford
Jr
Sent: Friday, 13 February 2009 4:09 AM
To: Practical_Carbine@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Practical_Carbine] C Products 9mm AR 15 magazines



I find myself in need of replacment magazines for my Colt 9mm Ar 15, I
got 3 Magazines from another maker last year and the quality is less
than outstanding. They fit poorly and feed even less than poorly.
Colt magazines have gone out of sight on price. The C Products 32 rd
magazines are priced right. Does anyone else on this list have
experance with the C Products 9mm magazines.

Thank-you for your replys







[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

I find myself in need of replacment magazines for my Colt 9mm Ar 15, I
got 3 Magazines from another maker last year and the quality is less
than outstanding. They fit poorly and feed even less than poorly.
Colt magazines have gone out of sight on price. The C Products 32 rd
magazines are priced right. Does anyone else on this list have
experance with the C Products 9mm magazines.

Thank-you for your replys

With all the panic buying going on these days, I had not planned to
participate until a brand new AR lower fell into my lap for slightly
over $100.  I had an extra lower build out kit, so I assembled it,
using the excellent CAA 6-position collapsible stock.

Now, the question is, what style of carbine upper? The way I see it,
my options are

1. An M4gery upper from akpartskits.com. It has a 16 inch barrel with
1:9 twist on an LMT A2 style upper. $330 and no bolt assembly or
charging handle.

2. An A3 upper from akpartskits.com. It has a 16 inch barrel with no
grenade launcher cut on an LMT flattop style upper and 1:9 twist with
an A2 style front sight. $290 and no bolt assembly or charging handle.

3. CMMG M18M SPR Upper. It has an 18 inch heavy barrel with a rifle
length gas system, 1:8 twist, and is a "dissipator" configuration with
a rifle length sight radius. It comes with a flattop upper, but can be
uipgraded to an A2 upper for $25. It also comes with the bolt assembly
and charging handle.  Total is $625.

The CMMG is my favorite option, but I wonder if the carbine will be
very front-heavy with the barrel that is 0.875 inches behind the gas
block.  I like the idea of the extra 2 inches for velocity sake, and
the heavy barrel for heat dissipation and stiffness.  OTOH, the other
two options will be a lot lighter.

The other issue is that I know that CMMG is quality. I have lots of
friends that have CMMG uppers and guns, and all are very satisfied. I
don't know a lot about akpartskits.com, except that they use LMT
forged uppers, and barrels from Wilson and Mossberg.  They are run by
a company called Blackthorn, which is, IIRC, a subsidiary of Hesse.
My one experience with a Hesse product (stainless FAL receiver) has
been wonderful, but, I have read of a host of problems that other
people have had.

If it makes any difference, my other AR is a Bushmaster, and I would
expect at least the same performance from this carbine as I would for
my Bushy.

So, what do you guys think?

..Phil

George Stringer was a righteous dude.  He wrote the book on fixing
Century-butchered milsurp rifles.

--- In Practical_Carbine@yahoogroups.com, Joe Strain aka Yodar
<cz52_99@...> wrote:
>
> I was once a participant in the gunsmith Forum (wherever THEY are
now? ) and the moderator there (George Stringer) did the work for me
>
> with buying the VZ 24 included it cost me $225.00
>  (I couldn't afford a CZ 524 at twice that price)
>
> I don't think he is among the living now
>
> yodar
>
> --- On Mon, 12/8/08, Jon Carroll <joncarroll@...> wrote:
> From: Jon Carroll <joncarroll@...>
> Subject: Re: [Practical_Carbine] MOJO sights    (does the list allow
pitchers within the post?)
> To: Practical_Carbine@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, December 8, 2008, 5:08 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>             hmmm... off...
>
>
>
> I'm interested in the 7.62x39 conversion.. . who did the work?
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: "Joe Strain aka Yodar" <cz52_99@yahoo. com>
>
> To: <Practical_Carbine@ yahoogroups. com>
>
> Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 1:58 PM
>
> Subject: Re: [Practical_Carbine] MOJO sights (does the list allow
pitchers
>
> within the post?)
>
>
>
> No Cosmo, Jon
>
>
>
> The gun ( a 1935 Czech VZ 24)was rebuilt to shoot 7.62 x 39 and was
>
> Duracoated.
>
>
>
> The sight pin drifted right out. The strong sight spring made
removal and
>
> installation a bugger
>
>
>
> --- On Mon, 12/8/08, Jon Carroll <joncarroll@infinite -elements.
com> wrote:
>
> From: Jon Carroll <joncarroll@infinite -elements. com>
>
> Subject: Re: [Practical_Carbine] MOJO sights    (does the list allow
>
> pitchers within the post?)
>
> To: Practical_Carbine@ yahoogroups. com
>
> Date: Monday, December 8, 2008, 4:45 PM
>
>
>
> Ummm... I removed the original military sight on my Yugo as part
>
> of cleaning
>
>
>
> the cosmoline out of the rifle. Likely, that's why you had trouble.
cosmo in
>
>
>
> the pin channel.
>
>
>
> Surplusrifle. com has some nice tips on using c-clamps to clamp
against the
>
>
>
> spring pressure and pop the pin.
>
>
>
> I'm considering a mojosight myself, primarily because I have trouble
>
>
>
> flattening down low enough to see properly trhought the rear "v" at
anything
>
>
>
> less than the 250m notch. However, i can pop steel plates all day at
400m...
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
>
>
> From: "Joe Strain aka Yodar" <cz52_99@yahoo. com>
>
>
>
> To: <Practical_Carbine@ yahoogroups. com>
>
>
>
> Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 1:23 PM
>
>
>
> Subject: [Practical_Carbine] MOJO sights (does the list allow pitchers
>
>
>
> within the post?)
>
>
>
> I got these sights for my tired eyes that can no longer SEE the tiny
Vee on
>
>
>
> my Yugo Mauser short rifle
>
>
>
> MOJO sights adjustable elevation and exchangeable peeps
>
>
>
> http://www.mojosigh ts.com/MicroClic k.html
>
>
>
> it took use of Burglar tools ! A pry bar and a MALLET ! What a pain in
>
>
>
> the arse! It took two guys a couple hours to de-mount the military
>
>
>
> sight and re-mount the mojo. The sight spring leaf was unbelievably
>
>
>
> strong
>
>
>
> pitchers at these urls
>
>
>
> third one shows where the burglar tools were applied with some force!
>
>
>
> http://pic20. picturetrail. com/VOL1229/ 6309647/12253703
/346401906. jpg
>
>
>
> http://pic20. picturetrail. com/VOL1229/ 6309647/12253703
/346401827. jpg
>
>
>
> http://pic20. picturetrail. com/VOL1229/ 6309647/12253703
/346401597. jpg
>
>
>
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the tricky part is the extractor...if the case head is smaller than the size of
8mm it will not extract unless you do what george did and handpick a bolt that
works best

Some outfit in idaho also makes chamber inserts to convert 8mm to other
calibers.  They made 30-06 to .308 chamber inserts for navy M-1's

yodar



--- On Mon, 12/8/08, Jon Carroll <joncarroll@...> wrote:
From: Jon Carroll <joncarroll@...>
Subject: Re: [Practical_Carbine] MOJO sights    (does the list allow pitchers
within the post?)
To: Practical_Carbine@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, December 8, 2008, 5:44 PM











             that's a real deal...



i may pick up a m24/47 or 48 and rebarrel it to .308...



----- Original Message -----

From: "Joe Strain aka Yodar" <cz52_99@yahoo. com>

To: <Practical_Carbine@ yahoogroups. com>

Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 2:25 PM

Subject: Re: [Practical_Carbine] MOJO sights (does the list allow pitchers

within the post?)



I was once a participant in the gunsmith Forum (wherever THEY are now? ) and

the moderator there (George Stringer) did the work for me



with buying the VZ 24 included it cost me $225.00

(I couldn't afford a CZ 524 at twice that price)



I don't think he is among the living now



yodar



--- On Mon, 12/8/08, Jon Carroll <joncarroll@infinite -elements. com> wrote:

From: Jon Carroll <joncarroll@infinite -elements. com>

Subject: Re: [Practical_Carbine] MOJO sights    (does the list allow

pitchers within the post?)

To: Practical_Carbine@ yahoogroups. com

Date: Monday, December 8, 2008, 5:08 PM



hmmm... off...



I'm interested in the 7.62x39 conversion.. . who did the work?



----- Original Message -----



From: "Joe Strain aka Yodar" <cz52_99@yahoo. com>



To: <Practical_Carbine@ yahoogroups. com>



Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 1:58 PM



Subject: Re: [Practical_Carbine] MOJO sights (does the list allow pitchers



within the post?)



No Cosmo, Jon



The gun ( a 1935 Czech VZ 24)was rebuilt to shoot 7.62 x 39 and was



Duracoated.



The sight pin drifted right out. The strong sight spring made removal and



installation a bugger



--- On Mon, 12/8/08, Jon Carroll <joncarroll@ infinite -elements. com> wrote:



From: Jon Carroll <joncarroll@ infinite -elements. com>



Subject: Re: [Practical_Carbine] MOJO sights    (does the list allow



pitchers within the post?)



To: Practical_Carbine@ yahoogroups. com



Date: Monday, December 8, 2008, 4:45 PM



Ummm... I removed the original military sight on my Yugo as part



of cleaning



the cosmoline out of the rifle. Likely, that's why you had trouble. cosmo in



the pin channel.



Surplusrifle. com has some nice tips on using c-clamps to clamp against the



spring pressure and pop the pin.



I'm considering a mojosight myself, primarily because I have trouble



flattening down low enough to see properly trhought the rear "v" at anything



less than the 250m notch. However, i can pop steel plates all day at 400m...



----- Original Message -----



From: "Joe Strain aka Yodar" <cz52_99@yahoo. com>



To: <Practical_Carbine@ yahoogroups. com>



Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 1:23 PM



Subject: [Practical_Carbine] MOJO sights (does the list allow pitchers



within the post?)



I got these sights for my tired eyes that can no longer SEE the tiny Vee on



my Yugo Mauser short rifle



MOJO sights adjustable elevation and exchangeable peeps



http://www.mojosigh ts.com/MicroClic k.html



it took use of Burglar tools ! A pry bar and a MALLET ! What a pain in



the arse! It took two guys a couple hours to de-mount the military



sight and re-mount the mojo. The sight spring leaf was unbelievably



strong



pitchers at these urls



third one shows where the burglar tools were applied with some force!



http://pic20. picturetrail. com/VOL1229/ 6309647/12253703 /346401906. jpg



http://pic20. picturetrail. com/VOL1229/ 6309647/12253703 /346401827. jpg



http://pic20. picturetrail. com/VOL1229/ 6309647/12253703 /346401597. jpg



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that's a real deal...

i may pick up a m24/47 or 48 and rebarrel it to .308...

----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe Strain aka Yodar" <cz52_99@...>
To: <Practical_Carbine@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 2:25 PM
Subject: Re: [Practical_Carbine] MOJO sights (does the list allow pitchers
within the post?)


I was once a participant in the gunsmith Forum (wherever THEY are now? ) and
the moderator there (George Stringer) did the work for me

with buying the VZ 24 included it cost me $225.00
(I couldn't afford a CZ 524 at twice that price)

I don't think he is among the living now

yodar

--- On Mon, 12/8/08, Jon Carroll <joncarroll@...> wrote:
From: Jon Carroll <joncarroll@...>
Subject: Re: [Practical_Carbine] MOJO sights    (does the list allow
pitchers within the post?)
To: Practical_Carbine@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, December 8, 2008, 5:08 PM











             hmmm... off...



I'm interested in the 7.62x39 conversion.. . who did the work?



----- Original Message -----

From: "Joe Strain aka Yodar" <cz52_99@yahoo. com>

To: <Practical_Carbine@ yahoogroups. com>

Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 1:58 PM

Subject: Re: [Practical_Carbine] MOJO sights (does the list allow pitchers

within the post?)



No Cosmo, Jon



The gun ( a 1935 Czech VZ 24)was rebuilt to shoot 7.62 x 39 and was

Duracoated.



The sight pin drifted right out. The strong sight spring made removal and

installation a bugger



--- On Mon, 12/8/08, Jon Carroll <joncarroll@infinite -elements. com> wrote:

From: Jon Carroll <joncarroll@infinite -elements. com>

Subject: Re: [Practical_Carbine] MOJO sights    (does the list allow

pitchers within the post?)

To: Practical_Carbine@ yahoogroups. com

Date: Monday, December 8, 2008, 4:45 PM



Ummm... I removed the original military sight on my Yugo as part

of cleaning



the cosmoline out of the rifle. Likely, that's why you had trouble. cosmo in



the pin channel.



Surplusrifle. com has some nice tips on using c-clamps to clamp against the



spring pressure and pop the pin.



I'm considering a mojosight myself, primarily because I have trouble



flattening down low enough to see properly trhought the rear "v" at anything



less than the 250m notch. However, i can pop steel plates all day at 400m...



----- Original Message -----



From: "Joe Strain aka Yodar" <cz52_99@yahoo. com>



To: <Practical_Carbine@ yahoogroups. com>



Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 1:23 PM



Subject: [Practical_Carbine] MOJO sights (does the list allow pitchers



within the post?)



I got these sights for my tired eyes that can no longer SEE the tiny Vee on



my Yugo Mauser short rifle



MOJO sights adjustable elevation and exchangeable peeps



http://www.mojosigh ts.com/MicroClic k.html



it took use of Burglar tools ! A pry bar and a MALLET ! What a pain in



the arse! It took two guys a couple hours to de-mount the military



sight and re-mount the mojo. The sight spring leaf was unbelievably



strong



pitchers at these urls



third one shows where the burglar tools were applied with some force!



http://pic20. picturetrail. com/VOL1229/ 6309647/12253703 /346401906. jpg



http://pic20. picturetrail. com/VOL1229/ 6309647/12253703 /346401827. jpg



http://pic20. picturetrail. com/VOL1229/ 6309647/12253703 /346401597. jpg



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I was once a participant in the gunsmith Forum (wherever THEY are now? ) and the
moderator there (George Stringer) did the work for me

with buying the VZ 24 included it cost me $225.00
 (I couldn't afford a CZ 524 at twice that price)

I don't think he is among the living now

yodar

--- On Mon, 12/8/08, Jon Carroll <joncarroll@...> wrote:
From: Jon Carroll <joncarroll@...>
Subject: Re: [Practical_Carbine] MOJO sights    (does the list allow pitchers
within the post?)
To: Practical_Carbine@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, December 8, 2008, 5:08 PM











             hmmm... off...



I'm interested in the 7.62x39 conversion.. . who did the work?



----- Original Message -----

From: "Joe Strain aka Yodar" <cz52_99@yahoo. com>

To: <Practical_Carbine@ yahoogroups. com>

Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 1:58 PM

Subject: Re: [Practical_Carbine] MOJO sights (does the list allow pitchers

within the post?)



No Cosmo, Jon



The gun ( a 1935 Czech VZ 24)was rebuilt to shoot 7.62 x 39 and was

Duracoated.



The sight pin drifted right out. The strong sight spring made removal and

installation a bugger



--- On Mon, 12/8/08, Jon Carroll <joncarroll@infinite -elements. com> wrote:

From: Jon Carroll <joncarroll@infinite -elements. com>

Subject: Re: [Practical_Carbine] MOJO sights    (does the list allow

pitchers within the post?)

To: Practical_Carbine@ yahoogroups. com

Date: Monday, December 8, 2008, 4:45 PM



Ummm... I removed the original military sight on my Yugo as part

of cleaning



the cosmoline out of the rifle. Likely, that's why you had trouble. cosmo in



the pin channel.



Surplusrifle. com has some nice tips on using c-clamps to clamp against the



spring pressure and pop the pin.



I'm considering a mojosight myself, primarily because I have trouble



flattening down low enough to see properly trhought the rear "v" at anything



less than the 250m notch. However, i can pop steel plates all day at 400m...



----- Original Message -----



From: "Joe Strain aka Yodar" <cz52_99@yahoo. com>



To: <Practical_Carbine@ yahoogroups. com>



Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 1:23 PM



Subject: [Practical_Carbine] MOJO sights (does the list allow pitchers



within the post?)



I got these sights for my tired eyes that can no longer SEE the tiny Vee on



my Yugo Mauser short rifle



MOJO sights adjustable elevation and exchangeable peeps



http://www.mojosigh ts.com/MicroClic k.html



it took use of Burglar tools ! A pry bar and a MALLET ! What a pain in



the arse! It took two guys a couple hours to de-mount the military



sight and re-mount the mojo. The sight spring leaf was unbelievably



strong



pitchers at these urls



third one shows where the burglar tools were applied with some force!



http://pic20. picturetrail. com/VOL1229/ 6309647/12253703 /346401906. jpg



http://pic20. picturetrail. com/VOL1229/ 6309647/12253703 /346401827. jpg



http://pic20. picturetrail. com/VOL1229/ 6309647/12253703 /346401597. jpg



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hmmm... off...

I'm interested in the 7.62x39 conversion... who did the work?

----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe Strain aka Yodar" <cz52_99@...>
To: <Practical_Carbine@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 1:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Practical_Carbine] MOJO sights (does the list allow pitchers
within the post?)


No Cosmo, Jon

The gun ( a 1935 Czech VZ 24)was rebuilt to shoot 7.62 x 39 and was
Duracoated.

The sight pin drifted right out. The strong sight spring made removal and
installation a bugger





--- On Mon, 12/8/08, Jon Carroll <joncarroll@...> wrote:
From: Jon Carroll <joncarroll@...>
Subject: Re: [Practical_Carbine] MOJO sights    (does the list allow
pitchers within the post?)
To: Practical_Carbine@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, December 8, 2008, 4:45 PM











             Ummm... I removed the original military sight on my Yugo as part
of cleaning

the cosmoline out of the rifle. Likely, that's why you had trouble. cosmo in

the pin channel.



Surplusrifle. com has some nice tips on using c-clamps to clamp against the

spring pressure and pop the pin.



I'm considering a mojosight myself, primarily because I have trouble

flattening down low enough to see properly trhought the rear "v" at anything

less than the 250m notch. However, i can pop steel plates all day at 400m...



----- Original Message -----

From: "Joe Strain aka Yodar" <cz52_99@yahoo. com>

To: <Practical_Carbine@ yahoogroups. com>

Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 1:23 PM

Subject: [Practical_Carbine] MOJO sights (does the list allow pitchers

within the post?)



I got these sights for my tired eyes that can no longer SEE the tiny Vee on

my Yugo Mauser short rifle



MOJO sights adjustable elevation and exchangeable peeps



http://www.mojosigh ts.com/MicroClic k.html



it took use of Burglar tools ! A pry bar and a MALLET ! What a pain in

the arse! It took two guys a couple hours to de-mount the military

sight and re-mount the mojo. The sight spring leaf was unbelievably

strong



pitchers at these urls



third one shows where the burglar tools were applied with some force!



http://pic20. picturetrail. com/VOL1229/ 6309647/12253703 /346401906. jpg



http://pic20. picturetrail. com/VOL1229/ 6309647/12253703 /346401827. jpg



http://pic20. picturetrail. com/VOL1229/ 6309647/12253703 /346401597. jpg



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No Cosmo, Jon

The gun ( a 1935 Czech VZ 24)was rebuilt to shoot 7.62 x 39 and was Duracoated. 

The sight pin drifted right out. The strong sight  spring made removal and
installation a bugger





--- On Mon, 12/8/08, Jon Carroll <joncarroll@...> wrote:
From: Jon Carroll <joncarroll@...>
Subject: Re: [Practical_Carbine] MOJO sights    (does the list allow pitchers
within the post?)
To: Practical_Carbine@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, December 8, 2008, 4:45 PM











             Ummm... I removed the original military sight on my Yugo as part of
cleaning

the cosmoline out of the rifle. Likely, that's why you had trouble. cosmo in

the pin channel.



Surplusrifle. com has some nice tips on using c-clamps to clamp against the

spring pressure and pop the pin.



I'm considering a mojosight myself, primarily because I have trouble

flattening down low enough to see properly trhought the rear "v" at anything

less than the 250m notch. However, i can pop steel plates all day at 400m...



----- Original Message -----

From: "Joe Strain aka Yodar" <cz52_99@yahoo. com>

To: <Practical_Carbine@ yahoogroups. com>

Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 1:23 PM

Subject: [Practical_Carbine] MOJO sights (does the list allow pitchers

within the post?)



I got these sights for my tired eyes that can no longer SEE the tiny Vee on

my Yugo Mauser short rifle



MOJO sights adjustable elevation and exchangeable peeps



http://www.mojosigh ts.com/MicroClic k.html



it took use of Burglar tools ! A pry bar and a MALLET ! What a pain in

the arse! It took two guys a couple hours to de-mount the military

sight and re-mount the mojo. The sight spring leaf was unbelievably

strong



pitchers at these urls



third one shows where the burglar tools were applied with some force!



http://pic20. picturetrail. com/VOL1229/ 6309647/12253703 /346401906. jpg



http://pic20. picturetrail. com/VOL1229/ 6309647/12253703 /346401827. jpg



http://pic20. picturetrail. com/VOL1229/ 6309647/12253703 /346401597. jpg



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Ummm... I removed the original military sight on my Yugo as part of cleaning
the cosmoline out of the rifle. Likely, that's why you had trouble. cosmo in
the pin channel.

Surplusrifle.com has some nice tips on using c-clamps to clamp against the
spring pressure and pop the pin.

I'm considering a mojosight myself, primarily because I have trouble
flattening down low enough to see properly trhought the rear "v" at anything
less than the 250m notch. However, i can pop steel plates all day at 400m...

----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe Strain aka Yodar" <cz52_99@...>
To: <Practical_Carbine@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 1:23 PM
Subject: [Practical_Carbine] MOJO sights (does the list allow pitchers
within the post?)


I got these sights for my tired eyes that can no longer SEE the tiny Vee on
my Yugo Mauser short rifle

MOJO sights adjustable elevation and exchangeable peeps

http://www.mojosights.com/MicroClick.html


it took use of Burglar tools ! A pry bar and a MALLET ! What a pain in
the arse! It took two guys a couple hours to de-mount the military
sight and re-mount the mojo. The sight spring leaf was unbelievably
strong

pitchers at these urls

third one shows where the burglar tools were applied with some force!

http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL1229/6309647/12253703/346401906.jpg

http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL1229/6309647/12253703/346401827.jpg

http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL1229/6309647/12253703/346401597.jpg





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Thank you for your participation in the Practical_Carbine list.Yahoo! Groups
Links

I got these sights for my tired eyes that can no longer SEE the tiny Vee on my
Yugo Mauser short rifle

MOJO sights adjustable elevation and exchangeable peeps

http://www.mojosights.com/MicroClick.html


it took use of Burglar tools ! A pry bar and a MALLET !  What a pain in
the arse!  It took two guys a couple hours to de-mount the military
sight and re-mount the mojo. The sight spring leaf was unbelievably
strong

pitchers at these urls

third one shows where the burglar tools were applied with some force!

http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL1229/6309647/12253703/346401906.jpg

http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL1229/6309647/12253703/346401827.jpg

http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL1229/6309647/12253703/346401597.jpg





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I was wondering whether anyone on the list had experience of fitting
better sights to one of these lever guns?

I did buy a Marbles rear sight but didn't fit it because I hadn't
measured the dovetail size! I'm now thinking about trying to fit
the 'Rossi 92'Marbles tang sight but not sure how well this would work.

Steve

I quit plaxo, whatever it is and if I was on it I don't know.



William W."Bill" McGraw
"Somewhere South of Chicago"
Greenville, MS 38701





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As he should be.

Thanks again for taking the time out of your life to moderate for us.
It is appreciated.
-J.C.


--- In Practical_Carbine@yahoogroups.com, Larry Bump <lbump@...> wrote:
>
> Frank wrote:
> > Frank wants to add you as a connection on Plaxo.
> >
> >
> Because that's the only way he will be able to talk to you; he is
banned.
>

Frank wrote:
> Frank wants to add you as a connection on Plaxo.
>
>
Because that's the only way he will be able to talk to you; he is banned.

--- In Practical_Carbine@yahoogroups.com, Larry Bump <lbump@...> wrote:
>
> Bruce Krell wrote:
> > Great. Thanks for the clarification.
> > I like these groups and just didn't want to piss anyone off.
> >
> > I got that same invite. I'm wondering if this was a list member.
> > Or, maybe someone hacked into yahoo. After all, didn't they
> > do this with Palin's e-mail address?
>
>
> He has been a member for over a year.
> That's the only reason I did not ban him immediately.
>
> But he better knock it off right away.

I don't have a problem with people posting a brief invitation on this
group to join another Yahoo gun-related group.