Roger, there are other guns designed to close upon
seating a full magazine.

For me, automatic closing of a slide on a loaded
magazine on a DAO pistol is no problem.  Since you
raise the issue, it is a problem for you.

You want a suggestion?

Check the hold open notch in your slide and the slide
stop.  Something has become worn or rounded, and you
can probably restore the function you wish with a few
strokes of a file.

Derek V.





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I went out and shot a Taurus Millennium PT-111 that we have had for a
while today.  I shoved the magazine (full) home with the slide locked
back and the slide released.  It startled the crap out of me :-).  If
I seat the mag easily I can pound on the mag baseplate (with my hand)
all I want and the slide stays locked back until I release it.  The
unintentional slide release thing happened every time I slapped the
mag in.  Ideas?  I put a magazine in like that on every pistol I have
with no problems.  Under stress it would be considerably, harder I
suspect, but  is it a habit I just have to break?  I am, I think, only
doing it hard enough to ensure proper seating.  I welcome any input
you may have.

Roger (the one in Utah)

-------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Jack <baron58@...>

(snip)

You are not alone in your frustration with Groups overrun with spammers or which
become useless because of the demise, figuratively or literally, of their
owners/moderators. But I think you may have given up too easily. In the past
when I have had trouble with Yahoo, an explanation sent to the right place has
achieved the results I sought. Yahoo Groups have become very useful, so it might
be a good idea to sort this out before you miss any more fun.

Have you searched the list of existing Yahoo Groups lately? There are more than
eighteen hundred firearms- and shooting-related Groups:

    http://groups.yahoo.com/search?query=firearms&sc=-1&sg=1010&ss=1
    http://sports.dir.groups.yahoo.com/dir/1600069100

Many of these might interest you. I have friends who held back from using Yahoo
because of an awkward initial exposure in years past. When they got over their
annoyance and tried the new Yahoo Groups, they found Yahoo much more straight
forward than it used to be -- easier to navigate, faster, and better looking,
too.

It's worth a try.


Jack

In addition to firearms, I have an intrest in old Formula racing cars and
airplanes.  One of the aviation lists I subscribed to was a very specialized
list that was abandoned by its moderator, started accruing spam, Yahoo! wouldn't
do anything about it, or turn over administration to the participants, we had to
go off and start a forum.. then everybody un-su*ed from the list.  Bunch o'
bother. Fooy on Yahoo!, if I can work around 'em I will, or I'll get along
without them.  On most of the Yahoo! lists I'm on, if sobody makes a reference
to something on the sites web page, when I try to go there, instead I get a
pop-up that wants me to sign in or subscribe.  I know about this now, and when I
see a reference to something internal to Yahoo! I just ignore it.

bk

you tolerate a Auto ordinance M-1 right out'a da box?

I dont customize any of my carbines (Marlin Camp Carbine, K-31, M-1)

  (It's kinda against C & R religion ya know)

Do you consider Kar 98K derivatives as members of the list's group-type?  And
SKS? I have one with some novel scope mounts

I have one Czech VZ 24  remaining in military config but with a new 7.62 x 39
bbl with original military (worthless) sights


Yodar

rd_hobbies99 <subscriptions33@...> wrote:
I'd like to get some pics from members of their customized carbines--
  the more toys hung off the thing, the better.

  You can post the pics yourself on the Practical_Carbine webpage or
  email them to me.

  The same goes for any interesting articles to add to the files section.
  Check out the ones there now.

  Thanks.

  RD






Yodar
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I you have gotten, are getting, or get duplicates messages in the
future please accept my apologies. This seems to be a Yahoo groups
problem that Yahoo is working to fix.

RD

-------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Jack <baron58@...>
>
> briankk@... wrote:
> > Where, to participate, you must enter identifying information that Yahoo!
will
> sell to spammers.
>
> I just participated in the poll and there were NO additional questions,
> personal or otherwise.
>
> Sorry to burst your bubble, briankk, but Yahoo offers you -- right up
> front -- the option of avoiding giving any more than the basic
> information first required to get on this Yahoo Group, and the choice to
> have NO backwash from advertisers. If you'd like to know how to do that,
> just send me five dollars and I'll be happy to tell you. Or, you could
> read it for yourself on the 'My Account" and "Personal Preferences" pages.
>
>
> Jack

Heh, heh.. OK, Jack, I'll believe you.  BTW, I subscribed to the list directly,
not through Yahoo!, all they have is my e-mail address.

Several years ago, I signed on to a Yahoo! group, the took all my info and I had
a password and all.  The group I susbscibed too became moribund, and I didn't do
anything on Yahoo for a year or so, at which point I found another group I
wanted to join, so I signed in and gave 'em my password, they sent back a
message that that name and password were taken, I'd have to create another one. 
I sent back that the reason that the name and password were taken is that they
were taken by me, and that I am in fact the person I say I am.  To no avail,
they were determined that I should create an new identity, I told 'em to f--
off, and don't do Yahoo! stuff anymore if I can't just subscribe to the list
through Majordomo..  Lifes too short.

I don't currently have any matching carbine/pistol combos, but I think its a
good idea.  I could get an AMT longslide in .30 carbine, or a Camp carbine in
.45 ACP.  Is there anything not a Contender in 7.62x39?  I recall president Bill
banning the ammo cause it was AP pistol ammo, and he wouldn't lie about
something like that would he?  Hell , I've seen revolvers chambered for .45-70,
the M43 round ought to be a breeze..

bk

That's news to me.

And there are several options in your Yahoo groups options to maintrain
your privacy and control emails.

--- In Practical_Carbine@yahoogroups.com, briankk@... wrote:
> -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: Practical_Carbine@yahoogroups.com
> > Enter your vote today!  A new poll has been created for the
> > Practical_Carbine group:
> (snip)
> > Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are
> > not collected via email. To vote, you must go to the Yahoo! Groups
> > web site listed above.
>
> Where, to participate, you must enter identifying information that
Yahoo! will sell to spammers.  Thanks, but no thanks...

briankk@... wrote:
> Where, to participate, you must enter identifying information that Yahoo! will
sell to spammers.

I just participated in the poll and there were NO additional questions,
personal or otherwise.

Sorry to burst your bubble, briankk, but Yahoo offers you -- right up
front -- the option of avoiding giving any more than the basic
information first required to get on this Yahoo Group, and the choice to
have NO backwash from advertisers. If you'd like to know how to do that,
just send me five dollars and I'll be happy to tell you. Or, you could
read it for yourself on the 'My Account" and "Personal Preferences" pages.


Jack

I'd like to get some pics from members of their customized carbines--
the more toys hung off the thing, the better.

You can post the pics yourself on the Practical_Carbine webpage or
email them to me.

The same goes for any interesting articles to add to the files section.
Check out the ones there now.

Thanks.

RD

I added .44 as a choice but in doing so wiped out the results to date
for the poll.

Sorry to all those who already responded. Please take a second and make
your choice again.

Thanks.

RD

Jim Hayes wrote:
> Larry were you in the Navy?
> Jim Hayes

Navy brat, Dad was a 20 year man, retired Senior Chief.

Why do you ask?

Larry were you in the Navy?
Jim Hayes

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Lee Towle wrote:
>
> I like the .30 Carbine in the Ruger Single action to go with the M1
> Carbine. I have a .44 mag Super Redhawk to go with my .44 lever action
> carbine.


Heck, I'm having a .50/70 pistol made (Encore).  Now I need a .50
Trapdoor.  It *should* fire the 12.7x44R ammunition well (rim size only
difference) and that will make another pairing, since I have that one
covered.

I have a Marlin 94 in .44 mag, and a Super BlackHawk and Redhawk to
cover it.

Marlin Golden 39A and a few pistols.  Many more .22 rifles, of course.

I have a .500 S&W HandiRifle, but I don't want that one in a pistol,
except maybe another Encore barrel.  It makes a good 45/70 replacement,
with more frontal area at the cost of long-range performance.

Larry

--- In Practical_Carbine@yahoogroups.com, Larry Bump <lbump@...> wrote:
>
> Where is the .44 Mag option?
>


Exactly, a poll of this magnitude needs to have many more choices,
unless the information sought is only for the calibers listed.

I like the .30 Carbine in the Ruger Single action to go with the M1
Carbine. I have a .44 mag Super Redhawk to go with my .44 lever action
carbine.

Lots of options.

Lee T.
Pointman870

--- In Practical_Carbine@yahoogroups.com, Larry Bump <lbump@...> wrote:
>
> Where is the .44 Mag option?
>


Ditto to that!

How about 45LC?  Lot's of carbines nowadays to match with SA for
Shootin Cowboys.
It's okay to be paranoid, but if you got this msg, you've done all you
have to do.  This is not a Yahoo poll, it's your group moderator asking
members a question.
I've answered.
John


>
> Where, to participate, you must enter identifying information that
Yahoo! will sell to spammers.  Thanks, but no thanks...
>
> bk
>

Where is the .44 Mag option?

-------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Practical_Carbine@yahoogroups.com
>
>
> Enter your vote today!  A new poll has been created for the
> Practical_Carbine group:
(snip)
> Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are
> not collected via email. To vote, you must go to the Yahoo! Groups
> web site listed above.

Where, to participate, you must enter identifying information that Yahoo! will
sell to spammers.  Thanks, but no thanks...

bk

Enter your vote today!  A new poll has been created for the
Practical_Carbine group:

What caliber "weapon pairs" do you own where you have a pistol and a carbine of
the same caliber. Select all that apply.

   o .22
   o .357
   o 9 mm
   o .40 S&W
   o 10 mm
   o .45


To vote, please visit the following web page:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Practical_Carbine/surveys?id=2469304

Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are
not collected via email. To vote, you must go to the Yahoo! Groups
web site listed above.

Thanks!

Texas Tactical will be holding an IDPA Range
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Have both 9 & .45 carbines, am interested in accuracy tips. I took the
trigger group out of my .45, diassembled and did some stoning/polishing
which really helped the stiff trigger. have to be careful here,
polishing is all it will stand but it does help. I have a 2X red dot
sight on the .45 - it does great but in the search for tighter groups
I'm always open to suggestions and will freely give any advice asked
for. I have handloaded for my .45 and Remington 'Golden Sabers' 185 gr
and Power Pistol powder did the best. It doesn't do too well with lead
slugs, 'Laser Cast' did the best there and light charge of Bullseye.
Leading was evident after 50 rounds and difficult to remove, I won't
use them again.
  Anyone bedded the stock of either of these carbines? muzzle brakes?
receiver sights? any accuracy mods? they are fun 'blasting guns but I'm
convinced of the accuracy potential there, say for varmints at 100 or
so yards.

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Texas Tactical will be putting on an IDPA Match
this Sunday February 25th at the Cedar Ridge
Range between Austin and San Antonio. Bring a
friend or two or 3 and introduce them to all the
fun! Everyone is welcome!

If anyone would like to help with setup please
arrive at 0800hrs OR 0900hrs sharp. The range
owners open the gate at 0800hrs for us then they
lock it back until 0900hrs when the range
officially opens. Help would be greatly
appreciated.

For more info and directions check out:

WWW.TEXASTACTICAL.NET

Please arrive on time for sign up and promptly
sign up. This helps us bring you a more efficient
and enjoyable match.

Depending on interest and help there will
be a Shotgun Sidestage after the match. (Birdshot
only)

Hope to see y'all there.




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Anytime I go out to the country and know I'll be able to shoot, I pack
my Ruger Mark I bull barrel with 5 loaded mags, Charter Arms
Pathfinder with a few speed loaders, Remington Nylon 66 (a sweet
carbine if there ever was one) with a 6 tube (90 rounds) speed loader,
and a few boxes of assorted ammo. I never come back with rounds in the
mags or loaders and usually wind up doing some mag and speed loader
recharging.

The only reason I don't take those guns to the range every time is I
don't like having so many weapons that I have to wheel them in.

You can't beat .22's for plinkability. Usefulness for self defense and
hunting is debatable, but as Tom pointed out most survivalist
checklists will include .22 firearms.

--- In Practical_Carbine@yahoogroups.com, "Tom N."
<bikercarolinaveteran@...> wrote:
>
> --- In Practical_Carbine@yahoogroups.com, "txray22" <txray22@>
> wrote:
> >
> > There used to be lots of survival type magazines on the market. One
> > had a great article on .22s.
> >
> > It was about people buying survival guns. Most everyone wanted an
> AR-
> > 15 and a .45auto pistol.
> >
> > This writer showed the price difference comparing a Ruger 10/22 and
> a
> > Ruger .22 auto pistol, with the AR and .45.
> >
> > Very interesting. Showed you could get rifle/pistol lots of ammo,
> > use the saved money for storable food and if the ruskies didn't show
> > up too soon, go ahead and get a larger caliber rifle/pistol.
> >
> > I never got into the movement, but I wish I had went out and bought
> a
> > 10/22 and a MKII. I finally did buy both, but I paid a good deal
> > more for them, and the dealer had to call my info in to Hillary.
> >
> >
> > Phil
> >
>   I wasn't 'in the movement' but I bought an AMT .22 and a Taurus
> revolver. Best money I ever spent and I had a case of ammo for them.
> I already owned a Stevens 12 ga. double for the 'rough stuff'. at 100
> yards that AMT will hit a beverage can every time - 25 rounds worth.
> Unless 'they' were coming after me with military style weapons I
> would be well armed - and maybe even with them if I had the drop
> on 'em.
>

--- In Practical_Carbine@yahoogroups.com, "txray22" <txray22@...>
wrote:
>
> There used to be lots of survival type magazines on the market. One
> had a great article on .22s.
>
> It was about people buying survival guns. Most everyone wanted an
AR-
> 15 and a .45auto pistol.
>
> This writer showed the price difference comparing a Ruger 10/22 and
a
> Ruger .22 auto pistol, with the AR and .45.
>
> Very interesting. Showed you could get rifle/pistol lots of ammo,
> use the saved money for storable food and if the ruskies didn't show
> up too soon, go ahead and get a larger caliber rifle/pistol.
>
> I never got into the movement, but I wish I had went out and bought
a
> 10/22 and a MKII. I finally did buy both, but I paid a good deal
> more for them, and the dealer had to call my info in to Hillary.
>
>
> Phil
>
   I wasn't 'in the movement' but I bought an AMT .22 and a Taurus
revolver. Best money I ever spent and I had a case of ammo for them.
I already owned a Stevens 12 ga. double for the 'rough stuff'. at 100
yards that AMT will hit a beverage can every time - 25 rounds worth.
Unless 'they' were coming after me with military style weapons I
would be well armed - and maybe even with them if I had the drop
on 'em.

EVENT: IDPA MATCH
DATE: ***Saturday*** February 17th
LOCATION: Cedar Ridge Range
SIGN UP: 0900HRS - 0945HRS
INFO: WWW.TEXASTACTICAL.NET

Texas Tactical will be putting on an IDPA Match
this Saturday February 17th at the Cedar Ridge
Range between Austin and San Antonio. Bring a
friend or two or 3 and introduce them to all the
fun! Everyone is welcome!

If anyone would like to help with setup please
arrive at 0800hrs OR 0900hrs sharp. The range
owners open the gate at 0800hrs for us, then they
lock it back until 0900hrs when the range
officially opens. Help would be greatly
appreciated.

For more info and directions check out:

WWW.TEXASTACTICAL.NET

Please arrive on time for sign up and promptly
sign up. This helps us bring you a more efficient
and enjoyable match.

Depending on interest and help there will
be a Shotgun Sidestage after the match. (Birdshot
only)

Hope to see y'all there.

Michael "Iron Mike" Webb
Texas Tactical
WWW.TEXASTACTICAL.NET


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Those headstamps are both owned by Remington, but one was originally
the Peters company and the other was the very old Union Metallic
Cartridge company. I suspect that the two "brands" compete against
each other in in-company profitability and so forth. Years ago, I
used to buy blue-box Peters ammo from Western Auto. Many years ago. I
still have some of that in 22LR.
Best regards
John





> > I may have a nomenclature problem.
> >
> >  Rem Peters and rem UMC I always thought were the same outfit. It's the
>yellow box remington ammo I got at Wallyworld.
> >
> >  Excellent ammo, and the cases last along time, with more meat in the base
>(some call it the "head") due to smaller  primer pocket, they seem to take
>more reloads than W/W cases which allow only 6 reloads in the SKS due to the
>batterringof the extractor on the 'head", leaving marks you can COUNT
> >
> > Yodar
>
>The cases I have are marked "R-P".  As far as I know, they use the same
>headstamp for the green-box commercial and the yellow-box UMC.
>

----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe Strain aka Yodar" <cz52_99@...>
To: <Practical_Carbine@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 6:29 AM
Subject: Re: [Practical_Carbine] AK/SKS coversion


> I may have a nomenclature problem.
>
>  Rem Peters and rem UMC I always thought were the same outfit. It's the
yellow box remington ammo I got at Wallyworld.
>
>  Excellent ammo, and the cases last along time, with more meat in the base
(some call it the "head") due to smaller  primer pocket, they seem to take
more reloads than W/W cases which allow only 6 reloads in the SKS due to the
batterringof the extractor on the 'head", leaving marks you can COUNT
>
> Yodar

The cases I have are marked "R-P".  As far as I know, they use the same
headstamp for the green-box commercial and the yellow-box UMC.

> Jeffersonian <jeffersonian@...> wrote:
[snip]
>
>  > Your saying that Remington does make 7.62x39 brass, and some have the
>  wrong size primer pockets?  Never heard of that before.
>
>  FWIW, I have a couple Remington 7.62x39 cases with Small primer pockets,
>  picked up from the range.  All the other reloadable 7.62x39 I've found
>  (Winchester, Federal) has Large pockets.
>
>  --
>  Criminals Prefer Unarmed Victims.
>  Oppressive Regimes Prefer Unarmed Subjects.
>  http://jeffersonian.name
>  OFF - GOA - JPFO - SAF - NRA

but those 308 bullets would work fine in my K 31 ;>)

"J.A. Freeman" <jfreeman16@...> wrote:
The pulled bullets wouldn't have done you much good as they were .308" in
diameter and produced 8 to 12 inch 100 yard groups. It wasn't until late 2005
that Remington changed the bullet diameter to .310" and spring of 2006 before
the new diameter bullets became available to hand loaders.

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The pulled bullets wouldn't have done you much good as they were .308" in
diameter and produced 8 to 12 inch 100 yard groups. It wasn't until late 2005
that Remington changed the bullet diameter to .310" and spring of 2006 before
the new diameter bullets became available to hand loaders.

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