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In a message dated 1/5/2006 6:08:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, jenninekash@... writes:

I'll have to go read that interview with Masha &
Lesha. Sigh, I had hoped a bit that they might bring
back Circus Princess myself, but I guess it's best to
not change programs in the middle of the season, even
if it is to return to a familiar one. Maybe they
think that the judges would ding them on their PCS for
using an old program?

I just hope that P & T can get *some* medal at the
Olys this year. Especially considering I thought they
were totally screwed out of a medal in 2002!

And now, Arthur, I must ask why you are so convinced
that Drobiazko & Vanagas will bomb at Euros? Do you
have some insider info? Are you assuming, since they
have been away from competition for so long? Or do
you just generally hate them? ;o) I always thought D
& V were enjoyable to watch, but very overrated by
many fans.

--Jennine

Hi, Jennine,

My reason for wanting a return to Circus Princess was so the people who only watch figure skating at Oly time could see P/T at their best. I`m proud to be a P/T fan , but would be even prouder if they were to use CP while the whole world was watching.

I have no insider info about D/V and have no particular personal dislike for D/V as people.

It`s just that I`ve always felt that Drobiazko is incapable of intricate close footwork and their programs are designed to disguise this fact.

Funny thing, they once did a program I enjoyed, a Charleston OD, something from Chicago, a vocal, but unfortunately the vocalist was terrible,(might have been Bebe Neuwirth) and I was never able to watch that program again. My poor ears.

Bye, bye,

Arthur

#335

From: Jennine Kash <jenninekash@...>
Date: Thu Jan 5, 2006 11:07 pm
Subject: Re: Fellini, and D & V

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I'll have to go read that interview with Masha &
Lesha.  Sigh, I had hoped a bit that they might bring
back Circus Princess myself, but I guess it's best to
not change programs in the middle of the season, even
if it is to return to a familiar one.  Maybe they
think that the judges would ding them on their PCS for
using an old program?

I just hope that P & T can get *some* medal at the
Olys this year.  Especially considering I thought they
were totally screwed out of a medal in 2002!

And now, Arthur, I must ask why you are so convinced
that Drobiazko & Vanagas will bomb at Euros?  Do you
have some insider info?  Are you assuming, since they
have been away from competition for so long?  Or do
you just generally hate them?  ;o)  I always thought D
& V were enjoyable to watch, but very overrated by
many fans.

--Jennine





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#334

From: Jennine Kash <jenninekash@...>
Date: Thu Jan 5, 2006 11:03 pm
Subject: Re: Gallbladder

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Well, Arthur, old or not, the news about Tatiana
Totmianina's gallbladder problems (and P&T
subsequently becoming national champs!) was new to me,
since I am woefully behind on my skating news this
season.  I need to get with it before the Olympics!

Is there any "new" news about Totmianina?  Is she
expected to be well in time for the Olympics?  Any
chance T&M just wanted an excuse to sit out Russian
Nats for some reason?  (I am evil, too!)

Oh, and I don't care for O & S, either.  I kept
wanting to like Julia Obertas, seeing as how she was
hyped up as the second coming of Katia Gordeeva, but I
just don't like what Moskvina is doing with this team.
  And Obertas has definitely not lived up to the hype
for me.

--Jennine



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#333

From: juncox@...
Date: Wed Jan 4, 2006 9:46 am
Subject: 2006 Euros Ice Dance

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Only 2 weeks before you get to see Drobiazko/Vanagas bomb at Euros.Sorry I can`t give you a hotlink to the dance lineup cuz my AOL browser is screwed up, but you can get it at FSU. BTW, DenStav and FP/M aren`t listed for some reason and I don`t think anyone knows why.

In the U.S. we won`t actually get to see D/V`s disaster, though, because we`re only getting 3 hours of Euros 2 weeks later. If D/V finishes higher than 6th, I`ll eat crow.

Bye, bye,

Arthur

#332

From: juncox@...
Date: Wed Jan 4, 2006 12:38 am
Subject: Fellini etc.

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There`s a translation of a recent P/T interview at FSU in the Russian Nationals forum.

I`d been secretly hoping that P/T would bring Circus Princess to the Olys, but this interview tells me that ain`t gonna happen. IMHO CP is the best thing they`ve ever done and the Fellini thing is a musical muddle, although I enjoy their new moves in the program.

Also in this interview, for the second time they hint that they`re not ruling out 2006 Worlds and possibly beyond that.

Bye,

Arthur

#331

From: juncox@...
Date: Sun Jan 1, 2006 8:22 pm
Subject: Re: Gallbladder

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In a message dated 1/1/2006 8:13:50 PM Eastern Standard Time, juncox@... writes:

Just in case you don`t know already, Totmianina got some kind of gallbladder problem, withdrew from Russian Nationals, and P/T are now Russian national champions (for the first time I`m pretty sure). I`d be even happier if some other team had beaten O/S out for the silver, but that was not the case. Anybody who knows me knows that I dislike this team (I`m evil).

Sorry. I guess that`s pretty old news. I went back to the Russian Nationals forum at FSU and found a whole thread about Totmianina`s condition.

Arthur

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#330

From: juncox@...
Date: Sun Jan 1, 2006 8:11 pm
Subject: Gallbladder

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Just in case you don`t know already, Totmianina got some kind of gallbladder problem, withdrew from Russian Nationals, and P/T are now Russian national champions (for the first time I`m pretty sure). I`d be even happier if some other team had beaten O/S out for the silver, but that was not the case. Anybody who knows me knows that I dislike this team (I`m evil).

Also, thanks to Jennine for her response about Sale/Pelletier using the arms-up split

twist.

Arthur

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#329

From: Jennine Kash <jenninekash@...>
Date: Fri Dec 30, 2005 8:34 pm
Subject: Re: Split-twist arms

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Didn't Jamie Sale do a split twist with her arms over
her head?  I definitely remember her having her arms
over her head at the point where Pelletier would catch
her and set her down, but I'm not sure if she kept
them overhead throughout the whole twist.  (Or if that
would even be possible?)

For some reason, I'm remembering that Sale & Pelletier
only did this on their double twist, but not on the
triple.  But I could be wrong!

--Jennine



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#328

From: juncox@...
Date: Thu Dec 29, 2005 11:25 am
Subject: WEHT Maria`s split-twist trick?

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In both short and long programs at both Skate Canada and Cup of China Maria did split twists w/her arms above her head. Looked great, neat trick, and also it keeps Alexei from possibly getting an elbow in the puss. At GPF, though, they didn`t do it at all.

I`m asking all you in the group if you`ve ever seen any other team do it or is it original.

BTW, I don`t mean for it to appear as though I think it`s easy. I doubt it is.

Arthur

#327

From: juncox@...
Date: Sat Dec 10, 2005 7:42 am
Subject: 2001 Documentary

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The video clips of the 2001 Japanese P/T etc.documentary have all expired, IOW 25 people have already downloaded the clips, however somebody has requested that the original poster do a repost of some of them, so I think it`s worthwhile keeping an eye on the website if you want them (AAMOF I didn`t get them myself). I`m pretty sure this is the url (been having problems w/my AOL browser, so I can`t be positive,though.

Arthur

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#326

From: "barbi.elizabeth3212@..." <barbi.elizabeth3212@...>
Date: Tue Nov 1, 2005 5:20 am
Subject: i didnt think this would work

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#325

From: "goldroserose" <goldroserose@...>
Date: Mon Oct 31, 2005 2:12 pm
Subject: Re: P/T`s SP music

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I like P/T`s new SP, I want to watch their perfect performance.

#324

From: juncox@...
Date: Mon Sep 26, 2005 8:09 am
Subject: P/T`s SP music

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Handel Harpsichord Suites - Christopher Wood - CD

According to a posting at FSU in a thread about a Moscow ice show P/T will be using Handel`s Suite 4 for an SP. There`s a clip here. Scroll down to a block labelled "Music Samples"

If I`m mistaken, please, someone. correct me.

Arthur

#323

From: homor linda <fusar-poli@...>
Date: Tue Aug 23, 2005 7:36 pm
Subject: Re: Dozen or so P/T pics

fusar-poli@...

Hi,

thank's:))

Linda
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#322

From: juncox@...
Date: Mon Aug 22, 2005 10:05 pm
Subject: Dozen or so P/T pics

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Index of /Olia/skating/Spartak

#321

From: juncox@...
Date: Tue Aug 16, 2005 1:31 am
Subject: Pakhomova

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I know that there are a few in this group who really enjoy ice dance, well, Daphne, for one.

This website has had some downloadable Pakhomova/ Gorshkov vids recently. I find her work very enjoyable. I guess this team was pretty successful in the 70s. The vids expire after 25 downloads, but eventually someone will repost them. Best to load them to your hard drive. If you hit the square button in the upper right hand corner you can watch them fullscreen if you prefer that way.

Arthur

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#320

From: "icesissi" <icesissi@...>
Date: Thu Apr 21, 2005 7:52 pm
Subject: Re: Digest Number 144

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i know that they will be at oly...if they didn't change idea i will write
when i have more news from masha!!!!

sissi
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Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 6:31 PM
Subject: [Petrova-Tikhonov] Digest Number 144


> There is 1 message in this issue.
>
> Topics in this digest:
>
>       1. Re: Translation to English?
>            From: juncox@...
>
>
> > Message: 1
>    Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 11:08:41 EDT
>    From: juncox@...
> Subject: Re: Translation to English?
>
> In a message dated 4/16/2005 7:16:10 PM Eastern Standard Time, JuncoX
writes:
> ???????? ?????? ??????? ?????
>
>    Could any readers of Russian tell me if there`s any news about P/T`s
plans
> for next season? I know that they`d only planned to stay eligible till
after
> Moscow Worlds, but I figure that their success at Worlds could have
possibly
> changed their outlook. It would be sort of freaky for the Worlds reigning
> silver medalists to not be at the Olys.
>
> Thanks for any help,
> Arthur
>    Someone did a translation at FSUniverse under Great Skate Debate.
Maria`s
> final remark of the interview tells me that they`re shooting for Torino.
>
> Bye, bye,
> Arthur
>
>
> [This message contained attachments]
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#319

From: juncox@...
Date: Sun Apr 17, 2005 11:08 am
Subject: Re: Translation to English?

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In a message dated 4/16/2005 7:16:10 PM Eastern Standard Time, JuncoX writes:

???????? ?????? ??????? ?????

Could any readers of Russian tell me if there`s any news about P/T`s plans for next season? I know that they`d only planned to stay eligible till after Moscow Worlds, but I figure that their success at Worlds could have possibly changed their outlook. It would be sort of freaky for the Worlds reigning silver medalists to not be at the Olys.

Thanks for any help,

Arthur

Someone did a translation at FSUniverse under Great Skate Debate. Maria`s final remark of the interview tells me that they`re shooting for Torino.

Bye, bye,

Arthur

#318

From: juncox@...
Date: Sat Apr 16, 2005 7:16 pm
Subject: Translation to English?

junco100

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???????? ?????? ??????? ?????

Could any readers of Russian tell me if there`s any news about P/T`s plans for next season? I know that they`d only planned to stay eligible till after Moscow Worlds, but I figure that their success at Worlds could have possibly changed their outlook. It would be sort of freaky for the Worlds reigning silver medalists to not be at the Olys.

Thanks for any help,

Arthur

#317

From: juncox@...
Date: Thu Apr 7, 2005 8:22 am
Subject: Tanya`s P/T site

junco100

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It`s back up and I`ll email her tonight even though she might not want to hear from me since I suspect she really got disgusted with me a couple of years ago because of my repeatedly beating on Drobiazko/Vanagas.

Arthur

#316

From: juncox@...
Date: Thu Apr 7, 2005 1:00 am
Subject: Burst of interest

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Hi.all,

I noticed that the number of members of this group went from 23 to 36 in the past week or so. The level of activity hasn`t gone up, though, except from Marti, me, and Icesissi who may or may not be a new member.Maybe all the action is at the P/T chat room. I wouldn`t know that though cuz I`m not a member. Hope I haven`t made this group dysfunctional by my provocative posts.

I notice that Tanya`s P/T website is either down or out of business. It was there a week ago, though. If you`re still a member ,Tanya, could you please let me know what the story is? I read your whole account of your trip to Worlds in Washington and really enjoyed it, in fact I read it several times and meant to comment like you invited people to do. Tonight I was going to write you an email and that`s when I noticed that the site, which contained your email addy, was down.

There were quite a few errors in my last couple of posts which I`ll try to correct now. It wasn`t Tong who had the bad back, it was Zhang. The fact that Pang/Tong and Z/Z finished in a different order than they normally do got me disoriented (no pun intended). Second, Emmerich Kalman, who wrote "Princess of the Cicus", wrote operettas, not ballets and also he he wasn`t popular in the early days of this century like I wrote, but rather in the early 20th century. I`m still not accustomed to living in the 21st century. In fact, even though it`s been the Chinese Year of the Rooster for a couple of months, I still catch myself writing Year of the Monkey on my checks. That gag would work even better if I were a Chinaman.

In closing, welcome all you new members.

Best regards,

Arthur

#315

From: "icesissi" <icesissi@...>
Date: Tue Mar 29, 2005 9:29 am
Subject: olympic games

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> Message: 2
>    Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 12:46:22 EST
>    From: martibur@...
> Subject: Re: Silver at Worlds, Apologies and Some Eville Stuff
>
> Hi Arthur!
> We've missed you.  :-)
> I was thinking of you during Maria and Alexei's free skate, and was
> wonderfing where you'd gone, and whether the list would - hopefully -
spring back into
> life again.  :-D
> Yes; Maria adn Alexei skated beautifully, and I LOVE the "Princess of the
> Circus" music too.
> It's a signature piece of my all-time favorite male skater, the '94
Olympic
> Champion, Alexei Urmanov, who has said in interviews that Alexei Tikhonov,
by
> the way, is his best friend.
> I thought, in a way, that Maria and Alexei are perennial runners-up,and I
> want them to win Gold again, as they did in '00 when Elena and Anton had
their
> World Championship revoked because Elena had innocently taken a cold
remedy that
> she didn't know was a banned substance.
> But I'm glad that Maria and Alexei are still eligible.  :-)
> The Olympics are just around the corner now.
> Do you think that they will hold out for the Olympics?
> I certainly hope so!
> After all, it's just one more season, and their coaching careers can
> wait.......
> Yours sincerely,
> Marti  :-)
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>    Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 14:19:16 EST
>    From: juncox@...
> Subject: Thanks for the welcome, Marti
>
>      BTW, I think that P/T would be wise to go for another season.Turin is
> only about 10 months away and they`re the reigning World silver
medalists.Going
> to a second Olys can add to their resume when they start coaching.
> Best regards,
> Arthur
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hi marti e arthur,

i'm also so happy for the silver medal of masha&lesha!!!! i was in moscow
they didn't skate so good but this program is sooo beautiful and their
skating is better than chinese one!!!! they will be in turin for olympic
games!!!

kiss sissi

#314

From: juncox@...
Date: Sat Mar 19, 2005 2:19 pm
Subject: Thanks for the welcome, Marti

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Hi Arthur!
We've missed you. :-)
I was thinking of you during Maria and Alexei's free skate, and was wonderfing where you'd gone, and whether the list would - hopefully - spring back into life again. :-D
Yes; Maria adn Alexei skated beautifully, and I LOVE the "Princess of the Circus" music too.
It's a signature piece of my all-time favorite male skater, the '94 Olympic Champion, Alexei Urmanov, who has said in interviews that Alexei Tikhonov, by the way, is his best friend.
I thought, in a way, that Maria and Alexei are perennial runners-up,and I want them to win Gold again, as they did in '00 when Elena and Anton had their World Championship revoked because Elena had innocently taken a cold remedy that she didn't know was a banned substance.
But I'm glad that Maria and Alexei are still eligible. :-)
The Olympics are just around the corner now.
Do you think that they will hold out for the Olympics?
I certainly hope so!
After all, it's just one more season, and their coaching careers can wait.......
Yours sincerely,
Marti :-)

Hi, Marti,

I bet you thought that my smoking habit croaked me and I was dead, but that hasn`t happened yet. I was thinking of you when the San Diego area had the terrrible forest fires. That must have been really scary for you. I hope they have better forest management now so that is less likely to happen again.

A year or more ago when P/T first used "Princess of the Circus", I researched it and found IIRC that it was a ballet by a popular Hungarian composer from early in this century who eventually became a U.S. citizen. I`m afraid to leave this window to go and re-research it, because I might not get back to this page that`s half typed. I don`t know if you`re using YouSendIt files from FSU`s Video Vault(you should), but the other day I found a "Princess of the Circus" by Klimova/Ponomarenko but it was a different song from the ballet.I`ve been saving the video clips in my computer.Maybe you`ve been doing the same. I really needed those clips after watching the World ODs last night because I found them so disappointing. I had to go to the clips to watch some Bestiamiavova/Bukin and Pasha ODs.Don`t get me wrong though. Although I found the top 4 teams disappointing, the YouSendIt clips of the other 26 dance teams were quite entertaining.

BTW, I think that P/T would be wise to go for another season.Turin is only about 10 months away and they`re the reigning World silver medalists.Going to a second Olys can add to their resume when they start coaching.

Best regards,

Arthur

#313

From: martibur@...
Date: Sat Mar 19, 2005 12:46 pm
Subject: Re: Silver at Worlds, Apologies and Some Eville Stuff

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#312

From: juncox@...
Date: Sat Mar 19, 2005 12:34 pm
Subject: Silver at Worlds, Apologies and Some Eville Stuff

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What a nice way for a team to end their competitive career (if it really is ended), with a silver at worlds.I`m very pleased as you might guess.

Now some eville stuff, almost guaranteed to p.o. some people: My greatest wish for these Worlds was for O/S to go down in flames and I got my wish. They couldn`t even beat Pang/Tong, and Tong had a badly injured back. This poor showing by O/S really messes up the Russians Federation`s plans (whee!). Do they beg P/T to stay on?

Now, my apologies to the couple of listmembers that I stopped corresponding with. When Operation Iraqi Freedom started, I sensed the possibility of disagreement with my two correspondents because I`m a rabid Bush supporter(and I emphasize the word rabid). I was a very tense person until after the election.

More eville stuff. Shpilband is despicable. I`m completely disgusted with the music choices in dance these days and Shpilband, I feel is probably the worst source of unimaginative choices.

Oh, before I go, Circus Princess was a great choice for P/T. Magnificent music, gives me chills its so beautiful. Oh, another thing, I`ve never seen Maria looking lovelier

Arthur

#311

From: Marina Sem <semmarina@...>
Date: Wed Nov 5, 2003 8:20 pm
Subject: questions to Masha and Lesha

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Hello all! :)
I'm going to Lithuania to see Drobiazko&Vanagas Ice Flames Shows. Maria and Alexey will take part in it. I plan to interview Maria with Alexey for their site. If you have
questions to them you can send them me and I'll ask. My e-mail:
semira_2001@...
Ira.

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#310

From: Jennine Kash <jenninekash@...>
Date: Tue Oct 28, 2003 4:54 pm
Subject: Re: Skate America

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Taso Pantelopulos wrote:

"The program was different from their previous free programs and they
connected so well with the audience. And they skated probably their
best competition since 2002 Worlds! "

That is so great to hear! On other lists that I subscribe to, people who *never* cared for Maria & Alexei's skating before have been commenting on how much they enjoyed their program, and how they deserved to win. I hope maybe this season Maria & Alexei will finally start to get some of the appreciation they deserve!!

--Jennine

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#309

From: "Taso Pantelopulos" <GreekOrca@...>
Date: Mon Oct 27, 2003 8:58 pm
Subject: Skate America

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I attended the skating events on Saturday and Sunday at Skate America
and I must post my reflections on their skating. Their long program
on Saturday was clearly the class of the event, and I was surprised
with their excellent technique they did not gather higher GOEs. The
program was different from their previous free programs and they
connected so well with the audience. And they skated probably their
best competition since 2002 Worlds! It was excellent, they clearly
should have won and they even had the audience support in the
decision (which is sometimes hard for a Russian team in a US
audience). They clearly put more effort into designing their tango
exhibition than most of the other skaters, and I thought it was very
well done. I wish they had won so they could have done a portion of
their "Princess of the Circus" long program again!

#308

From: "Monika Sulik" <rozoweskarpetki@...>
Date: Tue Sep 23, 2003 4:04 pm
Subject: new FP

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Hey everyone :)

Just wanted to say that Maria and Alexei have debuted their new SP &
FP at the Russian Test Skate and the FP of what I heard so far is
said to be different than their past programs. It's also interesting
that apparently Urmanov contributed to the FP choreography :)

Monika

#307

From: MartiBur@...
Date: Sun Apr 6, 2003 5:06 pm
Subject: Re: Long Program Music

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Thanks very much, Renee!
Cheers,
Marti :-)

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