Hi, I have a couple of small terriers but fortunately they are snoring away
here with me. I also ride far and fast but do not have time or money for
competition. I have a 12 year old Paso Appy cross who gaits smoothly and
consistently and goes like gangbusters. I love him to pieces but this spring
I noticed that he was just a little off and the vet says he has sore knees.
I am hoping for a full recovery but also looking around at gaited breeds. I
want a lively, gaited horse that can go 25 miles at gait/canter in very
hilly terrain and last at least 15 years. So tell me about your Walkers. Do
they love to go? Can they gait for miles? Can they canter on the up hills?
Do you have any that have been ridden hard for a lot of years and are still
sound?

Jackie in Bellingham Wash


----- Original Message -----
From: "rahm558" <kellie.rahm@...>
To: <NorthwestGaitedEnduranceRiders@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2004 3:01 PM
Subject: [NorthwestGaitedEnduranceRiders] Dog found @ Elija park Pleasant
Hill OR


> Hi all,
> Today I found a small terrier at Elija Bristow park. She ran with us
> while we rode for a couple hours so is quite horse savvy. She is real
> cute and I'm sure someone is missing her. Please send me a private e-
> mail to get my phone number if you would like to ID and claim your
> dog.
> kellie.rahm@...
>
> ps....glad to see this list picking up. I'd not checked it in ages. I
> have Tennessee Walkers. I used to Endurance ride. Now I don't have
> time and can't afford it so I am just a die hard trail rider and like
> to horse camp in the summer.
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>

Hi all,
Today I found a small terrier at Elija Bristow park. She ran with us
while we rode for a couple hours so is quite horse savvy. She is real
cute and I'm sure someone is missing her. Please send me a private e-
mail to get my phone number if you would like to ID and claim your
dog.
kellie.rahm@...

ps....glad to see this list picking up. I'd not checked it in ages. I
have Tennessee Walkers. I used to Endurance ride. Now I don't have
time and can't afford it so I am just a die hard trail rider and like
to horse camp in the summer.

Tracey,

If you haven't already found this board, I recommend it for getting info about
Paso
Finos:  http://www.pasofinos.com/board/wwwboard.asp

Why the switch?

I had a PP before my PF, and I still can't decide which breed I prefer.  My
heart is with
the Peruvians, but I do love my Paso Fino.  I'd need to ride more Paso Finos to
really
make up my mind.  They certainly strike me as a more "versatile" breed, in that
they
have several "types" that are good for different things...Fino, pleasure, largo,
etc.  You
can get 'em small or get them large.  I don't think the gait is as "strong"
throughout
the breed as it is with Peruvians, since with the Fino classes, the training
makes it
really easy to hide a horse that isn't really all that naturally gaited.  But my
mare is
certainly pretty natural; especially as her feet get into better shape with the
barefoot
trim, her gait has gotten more lateral and smoother.  She'll gait at a slow
speed with a
lose rein; push her to go faster and I think she'd trot, but thats more due to
her lack
of conditioning and the fact that her stride just ain't that big.  If
conditioned for it,
she could probably hold her gait at faster speeds, but if she has a  big largo
in her, I
haven't seen it.  At least she can canter.  She's pretty darn smooth, too. 
Different feel
from a Paso Llano, though... I want to ride a really good largo horse and see
what
that's like.   I've seen some videos of Paso Finos  moving out in a speedy
largo...they
were FAST.  Some people have recorded horses moving 17-18mph in gait.

Does anyone want to RIDE?  I want to go out on some trails; slow rides, though,
lots
of walking and some stretches of gaiting when appropriate.  She's a bit thin
(bad
winter) and I don't want to push her that hard.  We actually have some nice flat
trails
where I board now, in Scappoose (Terry B, you know where it is)...some of them
are
pretty rocky, so boots are recommended, but there are large stretches of just
dirt
tracks as well; the trails go through the tree orchards and are great for
gaiting!

Wishing I had a trailer,

--Kallie Teufel
Portland, OR


--- In NorthwestGaitedEnduranceRiders@yahoogroups.com, Renaissance Farms
<renaissance_farms@c...> wrote:
>
> Well, having owned PPs for a while, I unfortunately find myself in the
position of
> looking for another kind of gaited horse for my endurance riding endeavors.  I
am
> currently looking at some Paso Finos, and have my eye on a nice singlefooter
gelding.
> The Paso Finos I've looked at have varied some in size and body type.  I've
tried one
> that has legs like fence posts (referring to diameter, not being
conformationally
> flawed!) and has previous endurance experience.  I'll be trying him out on the
trails
> this Friday and see what I think.  He's "go-ey" from what I can tell, and has
Largo
> bloodlines, so this will be interesting indeed.  If anyone might be interested
in
> such a guy, let me know and I can pass the info along in case I find something
else
I
> like.
>
> ~Tracey Kasten
>
> Renaissance Farms
> Camas, WA
>

----- Original Message -----

From: Renaissance Farms

To: NorthwestGaitedEnduranceRiders@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2004 7:52 PM

Subject: Re: [NorthwestGaitedEnduranceRiders] Re: New Here

 

Well, having owned PPs for a while, I unfortunately find myself in the position of looking for another kind of gaited horse for my endurance riding endeavors.  I am currently looking at some Paso Finos, and have my eye on a nice singlefooter gelding.

The Paso Finos I've looked at have varied some in size and body type.  I've tried one that has legs like fence posts (referring to diameter, not being conformationally flawed!) and has previous endurance experience.  I'll be trying him out on the trails this Friday and see what I think.  He's "go-ey" from what I can tell, and has Largo bloodlines, so this will be interesting indeed.  If anyone might be interested in such a guy, let me know and I can pass the info along in case I find something else I like.

 

~Tracey Kasten

 

Renaissance Farms

Camas, WA

 

 

On Wed, 18 Feb 2004 19:30:54 -0800, Jackie Yereance wrote:
> Hi Marci, the sand doesn't sound bad to me. We have a lot of mud.
> Have to
> keep adding chip in the paddocks to keep the horses from drowning.
>
> I have looked at some "gaited" Morgans, but they didn't gait. A
> lady in
> eastern Washington says she has one that does but I have not gotten
> over
> there to take a look.
>
> I guess I am lucky that my half Paso was crossed with an Appaloosa.
> There
> are some Appaloosas that gate and she may have had that tendency.
> She was
> also half thoroughbred which may be where he got the wind to go the
> distance.
>
> I have a book on gaited horses that says if you want gait and you
> want to
> cross to a non-gaited horse the Morgan and the Appaloosa are your
> best bets.
> The least likely crosses are Arabs and Thoroughbreds. It does not
> say why.
>
> I was told by a breeder that Gait is passed from father to daughter
> and
> mother to son, so all you have to do is know ahead of time whether
> the baby
> will be a boy or a girl and then you know who to breed to whom. No
> problem
> right?
>
> Well, thanks for the info on the Peruvian that won in the 70's
> sounds like
> a good horse but probably one of a kind.
>
> If you find out anything else. let me know.
>
> Jackie

Well, having owned PPs for a while, I unfortunately find myself in the position of looking for another kind of gaited horse for my endurance riding endeavors.  I am currently looking at some Paso Finos, and have my eye on a nice singlefooter gelding.

The Paso Finos I've looked at have varied some in size and body type.  I've tried one that has legs like fence posts (referring to diameter, not being conformationally flawed!) and has previous endurance experience.  I'll be trying him out on the trails this Friday and see what I think.  He's "go-ey" from what I can tell, and has Largo bloodlines, so this will be interesting indeed.  If anyone might be interested in such a guy, let me know and I can pass the info along in case I find something else I like.

~Tracey Kasten

Renaissance Farms

Camas, WA

On Wed, 18 Feb 2004 19:30:54 -0800, Jackie Yereance wrote:
> Hi Marci, the sand doesn't sound bad to me. We have a lot of mud.
> Have to
> keep adding chip in the paddocks to keep the horses from drowning.
>
> I have looked at some "gaited" Morgans, but they didn't gait. A
> lady in
> eastern Washington says she has one that does but I have not gotten
> over
> there to take a look.
>
> I guess I am lucky that my half Paso was crossed with an Appaloosa.
> There
> are some Appaloosas that gate and she may have had that tendency.
> She was
> also half thoroughbred which may be where he got the wind to go the
> distance.
>
> I have a book on gaited horses that says if you want gait and you
> want to
> cross to a non-gaited horse the Morgan and the Appaloosa are your
> best bets.
> The least likely crosses are Arabs and Thoroughbreds. It does not
> say why.
>
> I was told by a breeder that Gait is passed from father to daughter
> and
> mother to son, so all you have to do is know ahead of time whether
> the baby
> will be a boy or a girl and then you know who to breed to whom. No
> problem
> right?
>
> Well, thanks for the info on the Peruvian that won in the 70's
> sounds like
> a good horse but probably one of a kind.
>
> If you find out anything else. let me know.
>
> Jackie

Hi Marci, the sand doesn't sound bad to me. We have a lot of mud. Have to
keep adding chip in the paddocks to keep the horses from drowning.

I have looked at some "gaited" Morgans, but they didn't gait. A lady in
eastern Washington says she has one that does but I have not gotten over
there to take a look.

I guess I am lucky that my half Paso was crossed with an Appaloosa. There
are some Appaloosas that gate and she may have had that tendency. She was
also half thoroughbred which may be where he got the wind to go the
distance.

I have a book on gaited horses that says if you want gait and you want to
cross to a non-gaited horse the Morgan and the Appaloosa are your best bets.
The least likely crosses are Arabs and Thoroughbreds. It does not say why.

I was told by a breeder that Gait is passed from father to daughter and
mother to son, so all you have to do is know ahead of time whether the baby
will be a boy or a girl and then you know who to breed to whom. No problem
right?

  Well, thanks for the info on the Peruvian that won in the 70's sounds like
a good horse but probably one of a kind.

If you find out anything else. let me know.

Jackie

----- Original Message -----
From: "Marci Nadler" <seabreezefantasea@...>
To: <NorthwestGaitedEnduranceRiders@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 12:47 PM
Subject: [NorthwestGaitedEnduranceRiders] Re: New Here


> Yeah, I have known of a few gaited horses that have
> broken down-one only ridden in the ring, barefoot and
> occasionally. Lived out in pasture. He was supposed to
> be a walker but looked like a paso, it does look like
> DSLD too. He had no papers so who knows? Heck he
> didn't even do a gait. But he sure broke down in the
> pasterns.
> Then another friend has a foxtrotter (who is 22 this
> year)  still sound-although a couple years ago she
> came up lame in her rear foot-the vet said it was DSLD
> and she was to stay in a stall for a few months, well
> it couldn't have been DSLD as she only had it in one
> hind leg and she got better-she is now sound again.
> The vet who diagnosed her had just come back from a
> seminar on DSLD to I imagine allot of horses got that
> one the next month. LOL Not sure though if she could
> do endurance but she has the fire and want to go
> attitude. It doesn't hurt that she has big eyes, huge
> feet, bone, and a thick mane and tail that any horse
> would envy. LOL Boy what a pretty baby she would have
> by an arab....
> I wondered about the Tennessee walker because you do
> see them sound and into their teens or even 20's and
> still going strong. But they don't always gait-some
> pace-and I have heard that is worse to ride than a
> trot.
> I was wondering though what about a 1/2 arab 1/2
> gaited breed? Would they stay sound like the arab? Or
> if they gait do they not last as long?
> Or could the problem be that because they are gaited
> and we don't suffer from the pounding do we push them
> harder?
> Sounds like you have great riding trails, to get on
> anything but sand I would have to trailer out. But we
> do have a nice trail system up in the hills here. But
> this time of year sand is wonderful-trotting in deep
> sand all horses feel like paso smooth. LOL
> I know I have heard of one Peruvian Paso that did the
> tevis back in the 70's I think. She stayed sound but
> came up with heaves. She is a famous rider now still
> in endurance too, Silly me I can almost remember the
> name of the person but the mares name was Marinana, or
> something like that. She rides arabs now too, I guess
> she found the pasos couldn't keep up with the front
> runners.
> You know I have owned one arab stallion years back
> that was as smooth as a paso-he didn't gait but his
> trot was like glass. unfortunately he wasn't the
> nicest horse to deal with and even gelding didn't
> help. Course then I was pretty green still and would
> do things way differently now. I even had some nasty
> big in foal TB mares to throw him in with to teach him
> manners but didn't know enough at that time. sigh,
> hindsight its sure is 20/20.
> And then there are Arabs like my mare that do "funny"
> gaits. But for the long run she is NOT smooth gaited.
> In fact not many people will ride her she is so
> bouncy. LOL But she is strong, brave-never spooks,
> goes anywhere I point her and can ride like the wind
> for hours. Now to find one that is like that but
> smooth too.
>  Guess we will be looking at a lot of horses for the
> next few years. Not a bad prospect. I might even check
> out a few gaited Morgans.
> Marci
>
>
>  Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 20:38:31 -0800
>    From: "Jackie Yereance" <jjyy@...>
> Subject: Re: New Here
>
> Hi Marci, glad to meet you. What a great place you
> have to live and
> ride. I
> live in Bellingham Wash on Interstate5 about 50 miles
> south of the
> Canadian
> border. My property is very near a park that has good
> trails and some
> beach
> on Puget Sound, so I have some good riding too. I have
> an Arab gelding,
> and
> a half Paso Fino, my sister who lives next door and
> shares the same
> barn has
> a fox trotter. We also train Icelandics. I love my
> Arab but like you
> have
> started to think about a smooth gaited horse.
>
> My husband generally rides the half Paso. If you want
> a man to ride,
> get him
> a smooth gaited horse. The half Paso (the other half
> is Appaloosa) is
> all
> that you describe, beautiful, smooth gaited, sensitive
> and responsive.
> He is
> our pride and joy and last fall my sister had a mare
> bread to his
> father in
> the hope of getting another horse like him.
>
> Then this spring he came up lame. It was diagnosed as
> sore knees. Not
> the
> tendons, just the joints.We are hoping that a little
> time off, some
> glucosamine, etc will put him right. I found one thing
> that my
> veterinarian
> said disturbing though. "You've been riding him like
> an Arab (long
> distances, lots of up and down, brisk pace) all these
> years (he is 12,
> under
> saddle since 4.5) and most horses can't keep going
> that way."  I
> countered
> with "his dad is sound at 22" the response was "But
> what kind of riding
> does
> he get?" I have not asked his dad's owner, but I do
> not think that he
> goes
> long and hard like I like to go.
>
> Now I am a bit at a loss. I love the Paso Finos, but I
> want a horse
> that
> will last a long time doing what I do. I have talked
> to a couple of
> Paso
> Breeders that said that they had good bloodlines and
> totally sound
> horses,
> but so far have not been able to find one who has a
> horse or has sold a
> horse that competes in LD rides. It is all just talk.
> I don't need a
> horse
> who wins. I just want one that can go the distance at
> a brisk pace and
> stay
> sound for a long time.
>
> I talked to a shoer who had been to a clinic on gaited
> horses and
> lameness.
> He said that according to the clinic the only gaited
> horse that is not
> prone
> to lameness is the Tennessee Walking Horse. I have
> always thought of
> walkers
> as being a bulky sort of horse without much potential
> for long distance
> riding. Also they often require training to gait. A
> well bred Paso does
> it
> without training.  I did talk to a Walker breeder
> around Olympia Wash
> and he
> said that in the 70's and 80's there were quite a few
> Walkers competing
> in
> endurance rides and doing well. He won a 100 miler on
> a stallion that
> he
> owned at that time. According to him people just lost
> interest and he
> doesn't know of any Walkers in the area that are
> competing. He said he
> would
> give it some thought though and see if he still knew
> of any horses with
> those blood lines.
>
> I am not in a big hurry either, so perhaps you and I
> can just look
> around a
> bit and trade info.
>
> My sister's Fox Trotter in a nice horse with nice
> gait. At 18 he tends
> to
> get a little stiff in the joints but goes OK once he
> is loosened up.
> He
> never could come anywhere close to going the speed and
> distance that
> the
> Arab and the Paso cross go. He just doesn't have the
> wind. So far I
> haven't
> found a Fox Trotter that does.
>
> There is one Icelandic that competes in endurance but
> I think he is a
> unique
> individual. Also his claim to fame is completing every
> race within the
> time
> limit, NOT keeping up with the pack. I know several
> Icelandic breeders
> and
> none of them has a single horse that could do 20 miles
> in twice the
> time it
> takes my Paso cross.
>
> The Peruvian Paso breeders appear to be rushing in to
> meet the need for
> good, smooth gaited, long distance horses, but I still
> have not heard
> of one
> that is consistently finishing races. Perhaps I am not
> being fair to
> the
> Peruvians but that winging thing the they do bothers
> me.
>
> So there you have it. I know that the perfect, long
> distance, smooth
> gaited
> horse is out there I just don't know where to look.
>
> Hope I haven't bored you
>
> Jackie
>
> My vet does not think that there are many smooth
> gaited breeds
>
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>>I know I have heard of one Peruvian Paso that did the tevis back in the 70's
I think. She stayed sound but came up with heaves. She is a famous rider now
still in endurance too, Silly me I can almost remember the name of the person
but the mares name was Marinana, or something like that. <<

Marci: Hi!

That was Julie Suhr and Marinera. Fabulous rider, fabulous horse. They're both
legendary. Julie's in her 70s now and still competing. She's got competition
Arab(s) to win, but Peruvian horses for pleasure!

You can't beat a good gaited horse for pleasure, and for *riding* endurance.
If you've got to top ten, then you'd probably want a speed-machine Arab -- and
deal with the bouncy consequences <vbg>.

However, the Peruvians can be very competitive in CTR...

Terry B/Salem
WVI WEBMAIL - http://www.wvi.com

Yeah, I have known of a few gaited horses that have
broken down-one only ridden in the ring, barefoot and
occasionally. Lived out in pasture. He was supposed to
be a walker but looked like a paso, it does look like
DSLD too. He had no papers so who knows? Heck he
didn't even do a gait. But he sure broke down in the
pasterns.
Then another friend has a foxtrotter (who is 22 this
year)  still sound-although a couple years ago she
came up lame in her rear foot-the vet said it was DSLD
and she was to stay in a stall for a few months, well
it couldn't have been DSLD as she only had it in one
hind leg and she got better-she is now sound again.
The vet who diagnosed her had just come back from a
seminar on DSLD to I imagine allot of horses got that
one the next month. LOL Not sure though if she could
do endurance but she has the fire and want to go
attitude. It doesn't hurt that she has big eyes, huge
feet, bone, and a thick mane and tail that any horse
would envy. LOL Boy what a pretty baby she would have
by an arab....
I wondered about the Tennessee walker because you do
see them sound and into their teens or even 20's and
still going strong. But they don't always gait-some
pace-and I have heard that is worse to ride than a
trot.
I was wondering though what about a 1/2 arab 1/2
gaited breed? Would they stay sound like the arab? Or
if they gait do they not last as long?
Or could the problem be that because they are gaited
and we don't suffer from the pounding do we push them
harder?
Sounds like you have great riding trails, to get on
anything but sand I would have to trailer out. But we
do have a nice trail system up in the hills here. But
this time of year sand is wonderful-trotting in deep
sand all horses feel like paso smooth. LOL
I know I have heard of one Peruvian Paso that did the
tevis back in the 70's I think. She stayed sound but
came up with heaves. She is a famous rider now still
in endurance too, Silly me I can almost remember the
name of the person but the mares name was Marinana, or
something like that. She rides arabs now too, I guess
she found the pasos couldn't keep up with the front
runners.
You know I have owned one arab stallion years back
that was as smooth as a paso-he didn't gait but his
trot was like glass. unfortunately he wasn't the
nicest horse to deal with and even gelding didn't
help. Course then I was pretty green still and would
do things way differently now. I even had some nasty
big in foal TB mares to throw him in with to teach him
manners but didn't know enough at that time. sigh,
hindsight its sure is 20/20.
And then there are Arabs like my mare that do "funny"
gaits. But for the long run she is NOT smooth gaited.
In fact not many people will ride her she is so
bouncy. LOL But she is strong, brave-never spooks,
goes anywhere I point her and can ride like the wind
for hours. Now to find one that is like that but
smooth too.
  Guess we will be looking at a lot of horses for the
next few years. Not a bad prospect. I might even check
out a few gaited Morgans.
Marci


  Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 20:38:31 -0800
    From: "Jackie Yereance" <jjyy@...>
Subject: Re: New Here

Hi Marci, glad to meet you. What a great place you
have to live and
ride. I
live in Bellingham Wash on Interstate5 about 50 miles
south of the
Canadian
border. My property is very near a park that has good
trails and some
beach
on Puget Sound, so I have some good riding too. I have
an Arab gelding,
and
a half Paso Fino, my sister who lives next door and
shares the same
barn has
a fox trotter. We also train Icelandics. I love my
Arab but like you
have
started to think about a smooth gaited horse.

My husband generally rides the half Paso. If you want
a man to ride,
get him
a smooth gaited horse. The half Paso (the other half
is Appaloosa) is
all
that you describe, beautiful, smooth gaited, sensitive
and responsive.
He is
our pride and joy and last fall my sister had a mare
bread to his
father in
the hope of getting another horse like him.

Then this spring he came up lame. It was diagnosed as
sore knees. Not
the
tendons, just the joints.We are hoping that a little
time off, some
glucosamine, etc will put him right. I found one thing
that my
veterinarian
said disturbing though. "You've been riding him like
an Arab (long
distances, lots of up and down, brisk pace) all these
years (he is 12,
under
saddle since 4.5) and most horses can't keep going
that way."  I
countered
with "his dad is sound at 22" the response was "But
what kind of riding
does
he get?" I have not asked his dad's owner, but I do
not think that he
goes
long and hard like I like to go.

Now I am a bit at a loss. I love the Paso Finos, but I
want a horse
that
will last a long time doing what I do. I have talked
to a couple of
Paso
Breeders that said that they had good bloodlines and
totally sound
horses,
but so far have not been able to find one who has a
horse or has sold a
horse that competes in LD rides. It is all just talk.
I don't need a
horse
who wins. I just want one that can go the distance at
a brisk pace and
stay
sound for a long time.

I talked to a shoer who had been to a clinic on gaited
horses and
lameness.
He said that according to the clinic the only gaited
horse that is not
prone
to lameness is the Tennessee Walking Horse. I have
always thought of
walkers
as being a bulky sort of horse without much potential
for long distance
riding. Also they often require training to gait. A
well bred Paso does
it
without training.  I did talk to a Walker breeder
around Olympia Wash
and he
said that in the 70's and 80's there were quite a few
Walkers competing
in
endurance rides and doing well. He won a 100 miler on
a stallion that
he
owned at that time. According to him people just lost
interest and he
doesn't know of any Walkers in the area that are
competing. He said he
would
give it some thought though and see if he still knew
of any horses with
those blood lines.

I am not in a big hurry either, so perhaps you and I
can just look
around a
bit and trade info.

My sister's Fox Trotter in a nice horse with nice
gait. At 18 he tends
to
get a little stiff in the joints but goes OK once he
is loosened up.
He
never could come anywhere close to going the speed and
distance that
the
Arab and the Paso cross go. He just doesn't have the
wind. So far I
haven't
found a Fox Trotter that does.

There is one Icelandic that competes in endurance but
I think he is a
unique
individual. Also his claim to fame is completing every
race within the
time
limit, NOT keeping up with the pack. I know several
Icelandic breeders
and
none of them has a single horse that could do 20 miles
in twice the
time it
takes my Paso cross.

The Peruvian Paso breeders appear to be rushing in to
meet the need for
good, smooth gaited, long distance horses, but I still
have not heard
of one
that is consistently finishing races. Perhaps I am not
being fair to
the
Peruvians but that winging thing the they do bothers
me.

So there you have it. I know that the perfect, long
distance, smooth
gaited
horse is out there I just don't know where to look.

Hope I haven't bored you

Jackie

My vet does not think that there are many smooth
gaited breeds

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Hi Marci, glad to meet you. What a great place you have to live and ride. I
live in Bellingham Wash on Interstate5 about 50 miles south of the Canadian
border. My property is very near a park that has good trails and some beach
on Puget Sound, so I have some good riding too. I have an Arab gelding, and
a half Paso Fino, my sister who lives next door and shares the same barn has
a fox trotter. We also train Icelandics. I love my Arab but like you have
started to think about a smooth gaited horse.

My husband generally rides the half Paso. If you want a man to ride, get him
a smooth gaited horse. The half Paso (the other half is Appaloosa) is all
that you describe, beautiful, smooth gaited, sensitive and responsive. He is
our pride and joy and last fall my sister had a mare bread to his father in
the hope of getting another horse like him.

Then this spring he came up lame. It was diagnosed as sore knees. Not the
tendons, just the joints.We are hoping that a little time off, some
glucosamine, etc will put him right. I found one thing that my veterinarian
said disturbing though. "You've been riding him like an Arab (long
distances, lots of up and down, brisk pace) all these years (he is 12, under
saddle since 4.5) and most horses can't keep going that way."  I countered
with "his dad is sound at 22" the response was "But what kind of riding does
he get?" I have not asked his dad's owner, but I do not think that he goes
long and hard like I like to go.

Now I am a bit at a loss. I love the Paso Finos, but I want a horse that
will last a long time doing what I do. I have talked to a couple of Paso
Breeders that said that they had good bloodlines and totally sound horses,
but so far have not been able to find one who has a horse or has sold a
horse that competes in LD rides. It is all just talk. I don't need a horse
who wins. I just want one that can go the distance at a brisk pace and stay
sound for a long time.

I talked to a shoer who had been to a clinic on gaited horses and lameness.
He said that according to the clinic the only gaited horse that is not prone
to lameness is the Tennessee Walking Horse. I have always thought of walkers
as being a bulky sort of horse without much potential for long distance
riding. Also they often require training to gait. A well bred Paso does it
without training.  I did talk to a Walker breeder around Olympia Wash and he
said that in the 70's and 80's there were quite a few Walkers competing in
endurance rides and doing well. He won a 100 miler on a stallion that he
owned at that time. According to him people just lost interest and he
doesn't know of any Walkers in the area that are competing. He said he would
give it some thought though and see if he still knew of any horses with
those blood lines.

I am not in a big hurry either, so perhaps you and I can just look around a
bit and trade info.

My sister's Fox Trotter in a nice horse with nice gait. At 18 he tends to
get a little stiff in the joints but goes OK once he is loosened up.   He
never could come anywhere close to going the speed and distance that the
Arab and the Paso cross go. He just doesn't have the wind. So far I haven't
found a Fox Trotter that does.

There is one Icelandic that competes in endurance but I think he is a unique
individual. Also his claim to fame is completing every race within the time
limit, NOT keeping up with the pack. I know several Icelandic breeders and
none of them has a single horse that could do 20 miles in twice the time it
takes my Paso cross.

The Peruvian Paso breeders appear to be rushing in to meet the need for
good, smooth gaited, long distance horses, but I still have not heard of one
that is consistently finishing races. Perhaps I am not being fair to the
Peruvians but that winging thing the they do bothers me.

So there you have it. I know that the perfect, long distance, smooth gaited
horse is out there I just don't know where to look.

Hope I haven't bored you

Jackie

My vet does not think that there are many smooth gaited breeds
----- Original Message -----
From: "Shadows Fire" <seabreezefantasea@...
To: <NorthwestGaitedEnduranceRiders@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2004 3:38 PM
Subject: [NorthwestGaitedEnduranceRiders] New Here


> Hi, I just joined this list. I own an arab mare and live on the oregon
> coast. My mare does offer to do some sort of "funny" gaits most of
> them not smooth. As my back and knees are giving me trouble I have
> decied that my next horse will be a smooth gaited breed. Hopefully I
> have a few more years with my arab mare but who knows? She is 18 this
> April so I do want to know somewhat what direction I want to go. I am
> leaning towards a Foxtrotter or perhaps a Paso?
> I know that coming from the Arab breed it will have to have a pretty
> face, and be sensitive and responsive.
> But until then I will work on getting my mare to "gait" when I want
> her to not when she does-I did have some success yesterday on the
> beach, got her to do a slow running walk (I think that was what it
> was) she was walking in front and trotting (jigging) in the rear. The
> sun was just perfect so I could see our shadow, so i could tell her
> good girl and relax the reins when she got into the right gait. It was
> about the speed of a slow trot. Its kinda fun. Maybe if I can get my
> mare to gait fairly well getting a "real" gaited horse to gait will be
> a breeze. LOL
> Marci
>
>
>
>
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> Yahoo! Groups Links
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>
>
>
>

Hi, I just joined this list. I own an arab mare and live on the oregon
coast. My mare does offer to do some sort of "funny" gaits most of
them not smooth. As my back and knees are giving me trouble I have
decied that my next horse will be a smooth gaited breed. Hopefully I
have a few more years with my arab mare but who knows? She is 18 this
April so I do want to know somewhat what direction I want to go. I am
leaning towards a Foxtrotter or perhaps a Paso?
I know that coming from the Arab breed it will have to have a pretty
face, and be sensitive and responsive.
But until then I will work on getting my mare to "gait" when I want
her to not when she does-I did have some success yesterday on the
beach, got her to do a slow running walk (I think that was what it
was) she was walking in front and trotting (jigging) in the rear. The
sun was just perfect so I could see our shadow, so i could tell her
good girl and relax the reins when she got into the right gait. It was
about the speed of a slow trot. Its kinda fun. Maybe if I can get my
mare to gait fairly well getting a "real" gaited horse to gait will be
a breeze. LOL
Marci

Brenda: I would *love* to do Willamette Mission sometime as soon as it dries
out. You can boogie around and train and I'll putz with the young man. I am
so early in his training I like to do mostly walking until he knows most of
his lessons... not to mention it's good for building up his condition nice and
easy as he gets used to his new "job."

Terry


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scenery for me.<BR>
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but just not enough!<BR>
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Thanks Terry,

Yes, it's hard to wait, but fun doing the training also.  Let me know if you
need a trail buddy at Willamette Mission sometime, it's a fun change of
scenery for me.

It'll be fun invading the endurance scene in a year or two with all these
gaited wonders, won't it?  I've seen a few here and there over the years,
but just not enough!

Brenda



Brenda: What a pretty guy! My name is Terry Barrall. I'm a close friend of
Tracey,
the founder of this list, and I live in Salem. At this time I have just
started
my young Peruvian under saddle, so I won't be doing anything serious for a
couple
of years... but it's so hard to wait, isn't it?

Congratulations on getting a gaited horse, I'll never go back!

Terry B/Salem

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Brenda: What a pretty guy! My name is Terry Barrall. I'm a close friend of
Tracey,
the founder of this list, and I live in Salem. At this time I have just started
my young Peruvian under saddle, so I won't be doing anything serious for a
couple
of years... but it's so hard to wait, isn't it?

Congratulations on getting a gaited horse, I'll never go back!

Terry B/Salem

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Hi everyone,

Decided not to ride today, but did take some photos of my purdy boy, he's my
first gaited horse, a coming 3 yr old TWH gelding, currently 15.3H

I've been riding him at Hardy Creek (fairly level and good footing) and he
easily covers 7mph just walking-wheeee!

So hard waiting that extra year before he can start LD's, sigh...... I'll be
riding a friends arab this year, so will still get to go compete.

Would love to see photos of your horses and plans for this season!

BTW, there is a gaited horse clinic coming up on the 21st of this month in
Canby, OR with Gina Gardner, I've gone 3 times now and really enjoyed it and
learned a lot.  If you need info, just email me and I can send you the flyer
and link to her webpage.

I'd love to meet some of you--weather looks pretty good for tomorrow and
this next week--anyone want to hook up for a ride?

Brenda Casebeer

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I forgot to mention that we were out at Hardy Creek this past Sunday
after church and found the main trail there to be in good shape.  I
know that the trails out at Battleground Lake and Milo McIver State
Park are pretty much shot after the ice storm we had at the end of
December, and there doesn't seem to be a definitive answer in terms
of when the trails might be restored to using condition.  I will be
going by BGL this Friday and will stop in to see if I can find out
what the progress is like, and I'll have to keep poking at the folks
over at Milo McIver to see when those might be open again.  But, in
the meanwhile, Hardy Creek is a great training trail; well-gravelled,
so hoof boots or shoes are suggested.  If anyone has any reports of
other good conditioning trails, please post the status of the trails
to the group so that we can plan our rides accordingly.

~Tracey Kasten

Hi, again ~

I think I've broached the topic before of reviving the "Trail
Gaiters" team but will toss it out once again as a possibility.
I think it would be neat to have a team of mostly gaited riders
(ideally) and think that some folks on this list might know of other
gaited riders who aren't on here that either might be in need of or
just want to be a part of a team.  The other possibility would be to
join a pre-existing team who might have some vacancies, but I think
it would be great to pal around with other gaited riders at the same
time.  So, let me know your thoughts on this.  I might post something
on PNER depending on the feedback I get from you all.

~Tracey Kasten

Renaissance Farms
Camas, WA

Home to four Peruvian Pasos and a pot-bellied shetland pony

Hey, gang!

Time to shake off those January blues (err, or as I look out the
window, perhaps I should say "grays"!) and start getting those
conditioning rides in.  I believe there will be some of us getting
together out at Hardy Creek in Molalla this Saturday for a relatively
easy conditioning ride (i.e., no emphasis on speed, but encouraging a
good extended walk and perhaps a little gaiting), but don't know the
time quite yet.  Weather so far is scheduled to be good, but you know
who that goes... we'll basically have to see the new and improved
version on Friday.  If anyone is interested in joining us, let us
know.  Also, if anyone else wants to plan one, please post the
details so that you don't have to ride alone.  ;-)

Take care,

Tracey Kasten

Renaissance Farms
Camas, WA

Home to four Peruvian Pasos and a pot-bellied shetland pony

Hi Brenda, glad to meet you. I have not competed now in many years. My work
requires travel and it is very hard for me to get myself and a horse in
condition. I have a 7/8 Arab that I ride mostly and a Pasoloosa (half Paso
Fino half Appaloosa) that my husband rides. (If you want a guy to ride get
him a gaited horse.) The Pasoloosa is our pride and joy. Smooth at any
speed, lively but not crazy. We ride long and in very hilly terrain. The
cross breed cannot match the Arab for staying power but it is close enough
that we can just slow down and chat a bit and he's ready to go again.

He is such a joy, and I got to thinking that I would like to have a horse
like him. So I started looking at gaited breeds and found that most breeders
who say that their horses have good endurance are either lying or have no
concept. We have taken our horses to meet some and some have come here. None
could come close to matching our horses, and ours fall short of the real
endurance Arabs that I know. (Have tried Icelandics, Foxtrotters, Peruvians
and Walkers, but any of these breeds may have lines that have potential. The
only ones that we see are those that will ride with us.)

So I decided that the only way to get another gaited horse with LD
capability was to get involved in LD activities and see what I can find. I
hope to attend several rides this summer without the horses just to meet
people.

We don't have trouble riding with anyone (but get bored if they move too
slowly) the Pasoloosa has a much faster gait than most of the gaited horses
we have seen. If he can't keep up at gate he has a wonderful canter that can
keep pace with any speed my Arab can manage. Letting him canter has never
had a adverse affect on his gait. I think this is because his gait is so
natural. You don't have to do anything to get him to gate. Any fool can sit
on him and he will gait.

I live in Bellingham next to a large park called Chuckanut Mountain. It has
lots of great trails, and there are other trails in the area. It is a long
haul from you and most other riders and hard for me to get away. But if you
ever get up here we can put you and your horse up, sure bring a friend as
well, and show you some nice trails.

Like I said I hope to go to some rides this summer so perhaps we will meet
there.

Jackie in Bellingham Washington

I hope to get both of them, and us, to a LD ride this coming summer just to
have fun and meet people
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brenda Casebeer" <endurogirl@...>
To: <NorthwestGaitedEnduranceRiders@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 9:58 AM
Subject: [NorthwestGaitedEnduranceRiders] intro


> OMG Jackie, your story killed me!  Hehe, sounds like some of my
> rides!  It's just amazing how they turn into psycho's at the start
> line--I always say that if I live through the first 5 miles, we'll
> have a great ride...
>
> Tracey just told me about this list, so here I am, my name is Brenda
> Casebeer, I live in Molalla, OR, have one young TWH gelding, just
> getting started on trails--he'll hit the endurance scene in 2005,
> ugh, hard to wait, but I th ink he's worth it!  I started endurance
> in '98 after getting burned out by the show horse scene (hunters)
> I've competed appy's and arabs, so the Walker will be a nice change
> of pace.  I'll be riding my newest member--a recent rescue next ride
> season, he's an arab, but I won't hold that against him. :)
>
> My first horse as a kid was a Walker, and I've had a few gaited
> horses come through my place over the years for training and to be
> sold, then decided this summer that it was time for me to own my own
> again.  Wow, it was really hard narrowing choices down--I liked them
> ALL!  I mostly looked at Foxtrotters and Walkers, I'm a bigger rider
> and thought Icey's and Paso Fino's would be too small for me.
>
> I'd love to hear about your horses, and how they've done in
> endurance. I plan on doing 50's with mine, but will start with some
> LD's.
>
> Oh, most of my friends condition and compete arabs of course, how do
> you guys deal with that?  Do you ride with arab people or try to ride
> with gaited people?  Does it screw your horses gait up trying to keep
> up with arabs "big trots"
>
> Brenda Casebeer
> Molalla, OR
>
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I have a very flexible schedule, soccer season is over, so I don't have to
play taxi mom every night, and I don't have a "real job" hehe.

I ride at McIver a few times a month, but mainly go to Hardy Creek (Molalla
River corridor) since it's just a few miles from home.  I'm willing to
trailer up to WA too, if you guys have some neat trail systems up there.

Pretty funny about your arab buddy cantering sideways, ugh, and a little
hard to be tactful--"uh, your horse is crazy and I don't want mine to get
ideas" :P

Brenda

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OMG Jackie, your story killed me!  Hehe, sounds like some of my
rides!  It's just amazing how they turn into psycho's at the start
line--I always say that if I live through the first 5 miles, we'll
have a great ride...

Tracey just told me about this list, so here I am, my name is Brenda
Casebeer, I live in Molalla, OR, have one young TWH gelding, just
getting started on trails--he'll hit the endurance scene in 2005,
ugh, hard to wait, but I th ink he's worth it!  I started endurance
in '98 after getting burned out by the show horse scene (hunters)
I've competed appy's and arabs, so the Walker will be a nice change
of pace.  I'll be riding my newest member--a recent rescue next ride
season, he's an arab, but I won't hold that against him. :)

My first horse as a kid was a Walker, and I've had a few gaited
horses come through my place over the years for training and to be
sold, then decided this summer that it was time for me to own my own
again.  Wow, it was really hard narrowing choices down--I liked them
ALL!  I mostly looked at Foxtrotters and Walkers, I'm a bigger rider
and thought Icey's and Paso Fino's would be too small for me.

I'd love to hear about your horses, and how they've done in
endurance. I plan on doing 50's with mine, but will start with some
LD's.

Oh, most of my friends condition and compete arabs of course, how do
you guys deal with that?  Do you ride with arab people or try to ride
with gaited people?  Does it screw your horses gait up trying to keep
up with arabs "big trots"

Brenda Casebeer
Molalla, OR

The Connected/Centered Riding clinic with Diane Sept here in OREGON has
filled all the Horse & rider positions. We have several wonderful breeds
coming including Tennessee Walkers, Rocky Mountains, Missouri Foxtrotter, a
BLM mustang that is pacey and our token trotting horse that is Andulasian X
Morab. I wish we would have had some Paso & Icelandic horse people
interested, but maybe they will audit this year and participate next year.

As well as different breeds all our riders have different issues & styles of
riding. There is sure to be information, you as an auditor, could relate and
learn from. Yes!! we still have room for auditors. The cost is $30 per day
for the clinic and 1/2 price on lesson day (Sunday). The clinic starts at
0900 on Friday July 25th, continues on Saturday morning then again on Sunday
with lessons.

Lunch will be available to purchase for $5 that includes a sandwich, chips,
drink and fruit. I need to know in advance if you would like lunch made for
you so we know how much stuff to purchase.

We have lots of topics we are going to cover at this clinic. It will be
filled with information as well as fun. So bring a chair, an open mind, a
sense of humor and your love of horses.

For more information or lunch reservation contact Kellie at 541-995-8405 or
e-mail kellie.rahm@...

Directions to Windy Curly Farm in Monmouth Oregon:

From the North: Take I-5 south from Portland.  Take the Salem Parkway
(exit 260-A) into Salem.  Follow signs to Dallas, Ocean Beaches,
Monmouth, Western Oregon University, and Hwy 22.  You will need to keep
left where Hwy 99E goes right.  Five miles from the freeway, turn right
onto Hwy 22 from the second to right hand lane.  This will put you in
the left lane as you get on the bridge over the Willamette River.  Do
not change lanes on the bridge.  Travel 10 miles west on Hwy 22.  Turn
left at the stoplight onto Hwy 99W.  In about 6 miles you will come to
the stoplight in Monmouth.  Continue another 3 miles and turn right
onto Parker Road. (Refer to continued instructions From Parker Road,
heading West)

From the South: Take Hwy 99W north from Corvallis roughly 17 miles.
Look for the sign to Helmick State Park and continue past the park turn-
off approximately 1 1/3 miles to Parker Road.  Turn left onto Parker.
(Refer to continued instructions below)

From Parker Road, heading West: Turn right at the stop sign onto
Helmick Road.  Take your first left onto Elkins Road.  Continue 2 ˝
miles on Elkins and go straight onto Zumwalt (gravel road), as Elkins
angles left.  Follow Zumwalt up the hill and around a bend to the
right.  Then turn into the first driveway on the left, by the Organic
Valley North Farms sign.  Stay on the paved driveway past the green
house, until you see the Windy Curlies sign and the open-air
barn on your right.  Park as directed between the barn and the arena.  Note:
There is no trailer turnaround beyond the barn, so do not continue down
the paved driveway!

Overnight Accommodations for Humans
Tent and trailer camping will be allowed on site free of charge.
(Facilities are port-a-potties and cold water only.)  Let us know if
you will be camping on site.  Motels are available in Monmouth, about 7
miles away.  Reservations are advised.  Courtesy Inn, 503-838-4438 has
non-smoking rooms, College Inn, 503-838-1711.  Restaurants in Monmouth
and neighboring Independence include Mexican, Chinese, Japanese, and
American.  There is a small health food store in Monmouth and a Roth's
supermarket in Independence.

Hello friends and fellow gaited horse enthusiasts. I am sending this
announcement out one more time. I had the horse and rider spots filled but
due to family obligations a couple had to cancel. There is also plenty of
room for auditors.  Sorry if you have seen this several times...you are "on
my list" so just delete if your not interested. But unless you and your
horse are perfect you may be sorry :~)

I am pleased to announce Diane coming
back to Oregon for a two day clinic and one day for lessons. She has been
here the last two summers and I have been lucky enough to attend. I must say
it is one of the best things I have ever done. I learn so much from her and
have a great time doing it! Please pass this on. Contact me and I can email
or snail mail
registration forms and directions. I have signed off most of the E-lists due
to now working 12 hour shifts. So if you have questions you will have to
email me direct. Thank you, Kellie


CONNECTED RIDING CLINIC FOR GAITED HORSES

July 25th-27th, 2003
Monmouth, Oregon (between Salem & Corvallis)
Instructor: Diane Sept Sutton
Organizer: Kellie Rahm 541-995-8405   kellie.rahm@...

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Instructor Profile: DIANE SEPT SUTTON

Diane has over 25 years experience training horses. She is a certified
instructor with "Connected Riding", "Centered Riding" and "American Riding
Instructors Association" as well as a licensed judge and clinitian.

An accomplished horsewoman, Diane has been training and riding Tennessee
Walking Horses since 1970. She has coached and ridden Walking Horses to
several National Versatility Championships. Over the years she has worked
with many smooth-gaited breeds, including Rocky Mountain Horses, Paso
Finos, Peruvian Pasos, Missouri Foxtrotters, and Icelandics.

One of Peggy Cummings' first certified Connected Riding instructors, Diane
has been teaching Connected Riding to gaited horse riders for more than 12
years  http://www.peggycummings.com.

A warm, witty, and insightful instructor, Diane is highly acclaimed for
helping riders of every experience level get the most pleasure and
performance from their gaited horses -- the natural way, without devices or
gimmicks!

While she is sought after for her expertise with gaited horses, Diane's
experience extends to the non-gaited breeds, as well. She is currently a
licensed judge through the Independent Judge's Association, and she judges
many open, 4-H, and Tennessee Walker shows.

Diane's breadth of experience in the horse world allows her to incorporate
a range of teaching and training modes and translate them effectively
between 'walk-trot' and gaited horses. While living and training in Canada
for eight years, Diane helped write the competitive dressage tests for
Walking Horses in Canada -- the first competitive standards for gaited
dressage anywhere. Currently, Diane performs nationwide at National Centered
Riding Symposiums, as well as in Connected Riding demonstrations with Peggy.
Diane has even been known to give bridleless riding demonstrations at
various venues.

Diane's thoughts on riding and training gaited horses:

Gaited horse owners have been told for years that shank bits, long toes,
weighted shoes, cutback saddles, and action devices can 'correct' a horse's
gait. Diane disagrees. She takes a more natural approach, based on balance
and an elastic connection between horse and rider. "Anything else is a
'quick fix,' she explains, "throwing the horse into just enough imbalance
that it has to do some form of a four-beat gait. It may feel smooth, but
the timing, purity, and quality of movement suffer. Sooner or later, both
horse and rider end up stiff and sore."

"Freeing up and allowing the natural abilities of any breed to express
themselves is what Connected Riding is all about. Once we understand the
mechanics of the gait we are striving for, then it's a matter of allowing
our bodies, coaching our bodies, to athleticize the animal to achieve that
goal. Gaited horses are bred to give us a smooth gait. We just have to help
them into self-carriage to allow that natural gait to come through."

Join us for an exciting, supportive experience!

Space is limited to 12 riders. Register now to reserve your spot!
I would be happy to answer any questions about the clinic.
Please contact: Kellie Rahm 541-995-8405   kellie.rahm@...

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Connected Riding for Gaited Horses Clinic Registration

July 25th-27th, 2003
Monmouth, Oregon (between Salem & Corvallis)
Instructor: Diane Sept Sutton
Organizer: Kellie Rahm 541-995-8405   kellie.rahm@...


Name:
Address:
State & Zip:
Phone:
E-mail:


Thursday Evening -- Connected Riding Demonstration -- FREE to everyone!

Friday & Saturday -- Clinic Days,  9am - 5pm.

Limit 12 riders   $205  ____

Sunday -- lessons:

$65.00/private 1 hr. lesson ______  preferred time ________


$45.00/person 1 hr. semi-private (2 people)______ preferred time ________


$65.00/person 1 1/2 hr. semi-private (2 people)_____ preferred time ________

$50.00/person 1 1/2 hr. group (3 - 4 people)_____ preferred time ________

If anyone wants to  have their lesson then take a break and come back later
during the day, they can have an additional 1/2 hour lesson for $30.00
(time permitting). This really helps people to solidify skills and
information.

Auditors:  $30/day if paid before July 1st ($35/day at the event)
Specify days:  Fri.___ Sat.___Sun.___

Total Due: $_____

Enclosed: $_____

Balance due July 1st: $_____


If your registration fees total more than $100, you may make a $100 deposit
to hold your space.

Mail with your check or money order payable to:
Kellie Rahm
950 LaSalle Street
Harrisburg, OR
97446

Note: All reservations not paid for in full by July 1 may be relinquished
to the next rider on the waiting list. All fees are non-refundable after
July 1 unless your place is sold to another participant. Covered pens are
available for your horse @ $10/night. The clinic is held on a beautiful
private farm. Camping on sight is welcome. Hotels available less than 10
miles from the farm.

Contact Kellie for more details.