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#46

From: "John Moist" <johnmoist@...>
Date: Fri Apr 27, 2007 1:47 am
Subject: Re: A's tickets available

johnmoist

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Thanks Marlene...Let me know of any future games.

John

----- Original Message -----

From: Marlene Vogelsang

To: norcalsabr@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, April 23, 2007 11:23 AM

Subject: [NorCalSABR] A's tickets available

Hi folks,

A friend of mine often has excellent A's tickets available..

really "down in front" - sweet seats,

Marlene

contact him at:

John Einstoss

johneinstoss@sbcglobal.net

Two MVP Tickets are available in the second row aisle directly behind the plate this week for Wednesday night or Thursday afternoon against the Mariners.

Seattle vs. A�s in Oakland

Wednesday April 25 7:05PM

Thursday April 26 12:30PM

Section 116

Row 14 (actually row 2 MVP)

Aisle seats facing the plate

So close you can see the breaking balls break.

Two tickets + MVP parking for $88.

#45

From: Marlene Vogelsang <mvogelsang@...>
Date: Mon Apr 23, 2007 6:23 pm
Subject: A's tickets available

marleneatsabr

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Hi folks,

A friend of mine often has excellent A's tickets available..

really "down in front" - sweet seats,

Marlene

contact him at:

John Einstoss

johneinstoss@...

Two MVP Tickets are available in the second row aisle directly behind the plate this week for Wednesday night or Thursday afternoon against the Mariners.

Seattle vs. A�s in Oakland

Wednesday April 25 7:05PM

Thursday April 26 12:30PM

Section 116

Row 14 (actually row 2 MVP)

Aisle seats facing the plate

So close you can see the breaking balls break.

Two tickets + MVP parking for $88.

#44

From: George Jansen <georgejansen@...>
Date: Mon Apr 23, 2007 5:29 pm
Subject: Re: Re: catcher's arms?

jessescrapbook

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Hey Charles,

Thanks for the input. Indeed, guys not daring to run
on certain catchers/outfielders sure makes arms hard
to figure.

Fun anyway, tho'. :)

God Bless,
Geo.


George Jansen
Author of The Jesse James Scrapbook
http://www.thejessejamesscrapbook.com

#43

From: Charles Fracchia <cfrac22@...>
Date: Mon Apr 23, 2007 11:27 am
Subject: Re: catcher's arms?

candlestickg...

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I do think that several factors go into a catcher's reputation of
having a strong arm. One of which is the pitching staff-- are they good
at holding on base runners, which would either make it more easier or
more difficult for them to throw base runners. I also think that once a
catcher gets a reputation of having a strong arm, teams are less likely
to run on them, i.e. test out his arm. It's the same thing with whether
or not, teams want to try to take an extra base on an outfielder
(a.k.a. Ichiro). As far as, catchers with a reputation for having a
strong arm, one of the best is Ivan Rodriguez. One of the worst, as far
as reputation was Mike Piazza, although he could certainly hit.

#42

From: George Jansen <georgejansen@...>
Date: Sun Apr 22, 2007 11:03 pm
Subject: RE: catcher's arms?

jessescrapbook

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Hey Rod,

Thanks for the link.

Alas, we don't have caught stealing or attempted
steals in the database for our toy. I shoulda
mentioned that.

All we have are put outs & assists, so that makes
hazarding a guess tough. We have Gold Glove into,
which helps, and games played. I think that's about
it, though. Any ideas would be appreciated.

George the New Guy


George Jansen
Author of The Jesse James Scrapbook
http://www.thejessejamesscrapbook.com

#41

From: "Rod Nelson" <rnelson@...>
Date: Sun Apr 22, 2007 9:27 pm
Subject: RE: catcher's arms?

rockymtnsabr

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Hi George - this isn't so much about rating catcher defense related to
stolen bases and caught stealing, which I presume is a simple enough metric
(CS/CS+SB)...  This is a link to the presentation which won The Doug Pappas
Award last year at SABR36 in Seattle. Who knew that this could be measured?

http://www.sabr.org/sabr.cfm?a=cms,c,1773
Blocking Pitches: Assessing a Catcher's Ability to Save Runs with Bruises
By Sean Forman (sean-forman@...)

(Click on the title to see the PowerPoint presentation)

Rod Nelson
Research Services Manager
www.sabr.org

-----Original Message-----
From: NorCalSABR@yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of George Jansen
Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2007 3:33 PM
To: nor cal sabr; 19th century SABR
Subject: [NorCalSABR] catcher's arms?

If anyone's got a neat little formula for figuring
this out, boy, that would be cool.

#40

From: George Jansen <georgejansen@...>
Date: Sun Apr 22, 2007 7:33 pm
Subject: catcher's arms?

jessescrapbook

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Hey SABR-folk,

Could someone tell me the names of some catchers who
are known for having good arms? That is being good at
throwing out base-stealers?

Also, the flip side, could you tell me the names of
some who were notoriously bad at throwing out runners?

Me and my good friend Rick Shubb (yes, he's the
world-famous bluegrass musician) are hooked on a
baseball management game & the ratings for the
catcher's arms in the data base seem way off.

If anyone's got a neat little formula for figuring
this out, boy, that would be cool.

Thanks Much,
George the New Guy

George Jansen
Author of The Jesse James Scrapbook
http://www.thejessejamesscrapbook.com

#39

From: "Charles Weatherby" <charweather@...>
Date: Tue Apr 17, 2007 7:41 pm
Subject: Giants Tickets

charweather

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I have six sets of tickets available for Giants games at AT&T Park this season. They are Premium Lower Box seats in Section 105, Row 10, seats 7 and 8. They are just beyond the infield on the first base side and offer an excellent cross-the-diamond view as well as the opportunity to go after foul balls. The seats are $37, $74 for the pair, which is the season ticketholder price. Equivalent seats bought through the box office would sell for $42 to $60, depending on the day of the week and whether it’s a “premium” opponent (Dodgers, A’s, Yankees). The dates are:

May 8, Tuesday vs. Mets @ 7:15

May 22, Tuesday vs. Astros @ 7:15

July 23, Monday vs. Braves @ 7:15

July 27, Friday vs. Marlins @ 7:15

August 7, Tuesday vs. Nats @ 7:15

August 21, Tuesday vs. Cubs @ 7:15

Please contact me offline if you’re interested.

Charlie Weatherby

415 892-6391

Email: charweather@...

#38

From: "John Moist" <johnmoist@...>
Date: Sun Apr 15, 2007 1:14 pm
Subject: Re: SABR Elections - and other news

johnmoist

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Hi Marlene,

I definitely will vote for Paul.

I don't think any of us are coming down to SFS on Thursday, But it sounds interesting.

John

----- Original Message -----

From: marleneatsabr

To: NorCalSABR@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 9:07 AM

Subject: [NorCalSABR] SABR Elections - and other news

Dear Friends:
Please make sure to vote and return your SABR ballot that is in the
current newsletter.
Remember that our own Paul Hirsch is running for Director.

Also, look for the Pinpoint Documents advertisement - not only is it
a clever ad, but a great service for those of you who need any kind
of document/article delivery. Tony Landolt is a local chapter
member..and he's also responsible for my becoming a member and active
in the association.

Hoping to see you at the Krevsky Gallery Tour on Thursday, April 19,
from 4-5. Gallery at 77 Geary in San Francisco.

Let's support our own in all the ways we can! Hope you've had a
chance to get out to the ballpark and enjoy the real thing.

"Play Ball" sounds really good!

Marlene

Marlene Vogelsang

#37

From: Gene Sunnen <gsunnen@...>
Date: Fri Apr 13, 2007 12:17 am
Subject: SABR Elections

gsunnen@...

Dear SABR members,

I second Marlene's suggestion that you vote in the
SABR election in the most recent issue of the SABR
Bulletin.  Please give the strongest of considerations
to Paul Hirsh, our local member, who has done a great
deal to benefit SABR.

Thanks, and Play Ball!

Gene Sunnen



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#36

From: "marleneatsabr" <mvogelsang@...>
Date: Thu Apr 12, 2007 4:07 pm
Subject: SABR Elections - and other news

marleneatsabr

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Dear Friends:
Please make sure to vote and return your SABR ballot that is in the
current newsletter.
Remember that our own Paul Hirsch is running for Director.

Also, look for the Pinpoint Documents advertisement - not only is it
a clever ad, but a great service for those of you who need any kind
of document/article delivery. Tony Landolt is a local chapter
member..and he's also responsible for my becoming a member and active
in the association.

Hoping to see you at the Krevsky Gallery Tour on Thursday, April 19,
from 4-5. Gallery at 77 Geary in San Francisco.

Let's support our own in all the ways we can!  Hope you've had a
chance to get out to the ballpark and enjoy the real thing.

"Play Ball" sounds really good!

Marlene

Marlene Vogelsang

#35

From: "Rod Nelson" <rnelson@...>
Date: Mon Mar 12, 2007 8:57 pm
Subject: From the Napa County Register

rockymtnsabr

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http://tinyurl.com/35tw2h

Old Timers Day not worth return visits

By Ace Parker

Monday, March 12, 2007

After retirement, I soon found that aerobic walking and volunteer work at the Queens Central Library taping books for the blind were fine, but not nearly enough to fill the long days and nights, and I searched for something else.

That something else took shape when a baseball-writing friend, the late Lawrence Ritter, suggested I join the Society for American Baseball Research (SABR).

Larry Ritter, by the way, was not only a retired college professor, but he wrote what baseball experts deem the greatest book ever written on the “Grand Old Game” — a marvelous book titled, “The Glory of Their Times.”

In SABR, the hot stove league’s fires burn all year ’round, and those pot-bellied stoves never run out of coal.

For the full article, go to the link shown above.

Rod Nelson

#34

From: "Rod Nelson" <rnelson@...>
Date: Thu Mar 1, 2007 9:04 pm
Subject: RE: Triple E Productions

rockymtnsabr

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Charlie – Eric has relocated back to Texas and is attending to family matters. Please contact me offlist and I’ll do my best to help you with your research needs.

Rod Nelson

Research Services Manager

www.sabr.org

From: NorCalSABR@yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of Charles Weatherby
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 3:11 PM
To: NorCalSABR@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [NorCalSABR] Triple E Productions

Is anyone familiar with the operation of Eric Enders’ Triple E Productions research service? I submitted a HOF research request to him over three weeks ago via phone and email, along with a follow-up call and email yesterday, all with no response. Am I being over-anxious and expecting too much or is this just a laid-back business that responds in its own good time?

Charlie Weatherby

#33

From: "Charles Weatherby" <charweather@...>
Date: Thu Mar 1, 2007 8:11 pm
Subject: Triple E Productions

charweather

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Charlie Weatherby

Email: charweather@...

#32

From: "richjohn55" <richjohn55@...>
Date: Wed Feb 28, 2007 6:32 pm
Subject: Re: Fw: Long Marathon Games in the PCL

richjohn55

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-I attended an 18-inning PCL game in 1952 between Seattle and
Hollywood at Sick's Stadium.  It ended in a 1-1 tie, called due to
curfew.
Dick Johnson -- In NorCalSABR@yahoogroups.com, "John Moist"
<johnmoist@...> wrote:
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: PLowry1176@...
> To: johnmoist@...
> Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 7:02 AM
> Subject: Fwd: Long Marathon Games in the PCL
>
>
> Please post to Nor Cal SABR E-List.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Phil Lowry
>
>
>
>
>
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> Mr. John Traub, GM, Albuquerque Isotopes
> Mr. Garrett Fahrmann, GM, Fresno Grizzlies
> Mr. Don Logan, GM, Las Vegas 51's
> Mr. Glenn Yaeger, GM, Nashville Sounds
> Mr. John Allgood, GM, Oklahoma RedHawks
> Mr. John Cunningham, GM, Portland Beavers
> Mr. ?, GM, Sacramento RiverCats
> Mr. Dave Lewis, GM, Tacoma Rainiers
> Mr. Tony Ensor, GM, Colorado Springs Sky Sox
> Mr. Sam Bernabe, GM, Iowa Cubs
> Mr. Dave Chase, GM, Memphis Redbirds
> Mr. Mike Schline, GM, New Orleans Zephyrs
> Mr. GM, Omaha Royals
> Mr. Dave Fendrick, GM, Round Rock Express
> Mr. Marc Amicone, GM, Salt Lake Bees
> Mr. Rick Parr, GM, Tucson Sidewinders
>
> Gentlemen,
>
> The league office and league statistician for  the Pacific Coast
League are
> not sure which PCL games have ever  lasted five or more hours, or
20 or more
> innings, or ended after 1 AM, and which  doubleheaders have ever
lasted 25 or
> more innings.
>
> I have conducted  research on this topic for the past 44 years,
since 1963,
> but I know for certain  that I'm missing many such games from your
league. As
> you can see, there are  only two such events listed in the past two
decades.
> There MUST have been  many other such events in the history of your
league.
>
> Is there any  possibility that you could please have your team's
statistician
> review this  list, and let me know the details of your games which
are
> missing from the  list?
>
> Thank you VERY much for your help.
>
> Phil  Lowry
>
>
> GAMES LASTING FIVE OR MORE HOURS IN THE PACIFIC  COAST LEAGUE (6)
>
>
> 5:15 �" Dugdale Park, Seattle, Washington �" 6/6/1924 �" Seattle
Indians 5
> Vernon Tigers 4 in 19 innings.
>
> 5:04 �" Lane Field, San Diego, California �" 7/2/1958 �" San
Diego Padres 12
> Salt Lake City Bees 11 in 16 innings �" 5309 fans �" finished at
1:04 AM in the
> early morning of 7/3.
>
> 5:56 �" Sicks’ Stadium, Seattle, Washington - 5/8/1959 �"
Seattle Rainiers 6
> Phoenix Giants 5 in 21 innings, 2nd game cancelled �" 1787 fans
�" finished at
> 12:56 AM in the early morning of 5/9.
>
> 5:04 �" Honolulu Stadium (later Termite Palace), Honolulu,
Hawai’i �"
> 5/23/1967 �" Portland Beavers 7 Hawai’i Islanders 4 in 16
innings, rain delay  7th,
> brawl delay top 8th, 2nd rain delay 11th, 3rd rain delay 13th �"
finished at
> 1:22 AM in the early morning of 5/24.
>
> 6:39 �" Municipal Stadium, Phoenix, Arizona �" 6/23/1990 �"
Calgary Cannons 12
> Phoenix Firebirds 9 in 20 innings �" finished at 1:49 AM in the
early morning
> of  6/24.
>
> 8:07 �" Greer Stadium, Nashville, Tennessee �" 5/5/2006 and
5/6/2006 �" New
> Orleans Zephyrs 5 Nashville Sounds 4 in 24 innings, suspended after
6:23 and 18
> innings �" 9124 fans on 5/5, 300 fans at suspension; 10,016 fans
on 5/6 �"
> suspended at 1:25 AM in the early morning of 5/6; finished at 7:44
PM on  5/6.
>
>
> GAMES LASTING 20 OR MORE INNINGS IN THE PACIFIC COAST LEAGUE (15)
>
>
> 20 �" Vaughn Street Ballpark (later Lucky Beaver Stadium),
Portland, Oregon  -
> 8/2/1908 �" San Francisco Seals 6 Portland Beavers 5 in 3:40.
>
> 24 �" Freeman’s Park, Oakland, California �" 6/8/1909 �" San
Francisco Seals 1
>  Oakland Oaks 0 in 3:35.
>
> 24 �" Buffalo Park, Sacramento, California �" 9/10/1911 �"
Portland Beavers 1
> Sacramento Sacts 1 in 3:45.
>
> 21 �" Washington Park, Los Angeles, California �" 9/15/1911 �"
Sacramento
> Sacts 4 Los Angeles Angels 4 in 3:10.
>
> 20 �" Washington Park, Los Angeles, California - 5/27/1914 �"
Oakland Oaks 4
> Venice Tigers 2 in 4:02 �" finished at 7:02 PM.
>
> 22 �" Washington Park, Los Angeles, California �" 4/10/1921 �"
Seattle
> Rainiers 12 Los Angeles Angels 8 in 4:46, 2nd game postponed �"
13,000  fans.
>
> 22 �" Oakland Baseball (later Oaks) Park, Emeryville, California
�" 5/6/1928  �"
>  Oakland Oaks 7 Sacramento Senators 6 in 4:00 in p.m. game,
Sacramento 5
> Oakland 2 in 1:45 in a.m. game.
>
> 20 �" Lucky Beaver Stadium, Portland, Oregon - 5/7/1947 �"
Portland Beavers 1
> Sacramento Solons 0 in 3:25 �" finished at 11:45 PM.
>
> 22 �" Seals Stadium, San Francisco, California �" 8/5/1953 �"
Portland Beavers
> 4 San Francisco Seals 2 in 4:20 �" 1394 fans.
>
> 21 �" Gilmore Field, Hollywood, California - 5/12/1954 �" Oakland
Oaks 5
> Hollywood Stars 1 in 4:52 �" 2559 fans �" finished at 1:10 AM in
the early morning
> of 5/13.
>
> 20 �" Lucky Beaver Stadium, Portland, Oregon �" 4/24/1955 �"
Portland Beavers
> 3 San Diego Padres 2 in 4:14 in 2nd game, Portland 9 San Diego 5 in
2:06 in
> 1st  game �" 4760 fans.
>
> 21 �" Sicks’ Stadium, Seattle, Washington - 5/8/1959 �" Seattle
Rainiers 6
> Phoenix Giants 5 in 5:56, 2nd game cancelled �" 1787 fans �"
finished at 12:56 AM
>  in the early morning of 5/9.
>
> 20 �" Hi Corbett Field, Tucson, Arizona �" 6/3/1970 �" Hawai’i
Islanders 6
> Tucson Toros 5 in 4:58 �" finished at 12:58 AM in the early
morning of 6/4.
>
> 20 �" Municipal Stadium (II), Phoenix, Arizona �" 6/23/1990 �"
Calgary Cannons
> 12 Phoenix Firebirds 9 in 6:39 �" finished at 1:49 AM in the early
morning of
> 6/24.
>
> 24 �" Greer Stadium, Nashville, Tennessee �" 5/5/2006 and
5/6/2006 �" New
> Orleans Zephyrs 5 Nashville Sounds 4 in 8:07, suspended after 6:23
and 18  innings
> �" 9124 fans on 5/5, 300 fans at suspension; 10,016 fans on 5/6
�"  suspended
> at 1:25 AM in the early morning of 5/6; finished at 7:44 PM on  5/6.
>
>
> DOUBLEHEADERS LASTING 25 OR MORE INNINGS IN THE PACIFIC COAST
LEAGUE  (6)
>
>
> 28 �" Oakland Baseball (later Oaks) Park, Emeryville and New
Recreation  Park,
> San Francisco, California �" 6/4/1916 �" Oakland Oaks 1 San
Francisco Seals  0
> in 18 innings in a.m. game in Oakland, then Oakland 4 San Francisco
3 in 2:07
>  and 10 innings in p.m. game in San Francisco.
>
> 31 �" Oakland Baseball (later Oaks) Park, Emeryville, California
�" 5/6/1928  �"
>  Sacramento Senators 5 Oakland Oaks 2 in 1:45 and 9 innings in a.m.
game,
> then  Oakland 7 Sacramento 6 in 4:00 and 22 innings in p.m. game.
>
> 26 �" Lucky Beaver Stadium, Portland, Oregon �" 5/9/1943 �" Los
Angeles Angels
> 7 Portland Beavers 6 in 4:32 and 19 innings, then Los Angeles 2
Portland 1 in
>  1:38 and 7 innings.
>
> 25 �" Lane Field, San Diego, California �" 7/26/1953 �" San
Diego Padres 2
> Seattle Rainiers 0, then Seattle 3 San Diego 2 in 16 innings.
>
> 29 �" Lucky Beaver Stadium, Portland, Oregon �" 4/24/1955 �"
Portland Beavers
> 9 San Diego Padres 5 in 2:06 and 9 innings, then Portland 3 San
Diego 2 in
> 4:14  and 20 innings �" 4760 fans.
>
> 27 �" Sicks’ Stadium, Seattle, Washington �" 5/26/1957 �"
Vancouver Mounties 7
>  Seattle Rainiers 2 in 2:20, then Vancouver 6 Seattle 4 in 4:30 and
18
> innings �"  3915 fans - 2nd game finished at 8:40 PM.
>
>
> GAMES FINISHING AFTER 1 AM IN THE PACIFIC COAST LEAGUE (6)
>
>
> 1:20 AM �" Wrigley Field, Los Angeles, California �" 5/15/1931
�" Los Angeles
> Angels 10 Portland Ducks 9 in 4:45 and 16 innings �" 4500 fans,
3100 fans at
> end.
>
> 1:10 AM �" Gilmore Field, Hollywood, California - 5/12/1954 �"
Oakland Oaks 5
> Hollywood Stars 1 in 4:52 and 21 innings �" 2559 fans.
> 1:04 AM �" Lane Field,  San Diego, California �" 7/2/1958 �" San
Diego Padres
> 12 Salt Lake City Bees 11 in  5:04 and 16 innings �" 5309 fans.
>
> 1:22 AM �" Honolulu Stadium, Honolulu, Hawai’i �" 5/23/1967 �"
Portland
> Beavers 7 Hawai’i Islanders 4 in 5:04 and 16 innings, rain delay
7th, brawl  delay
> top 8th, 2nd rain delay 11th, 3rd rain delay 13th.
>
> 1:49 AM �" Municipal Stadium, Phoenix, Arizona �" 6/23/1990 �"
Calgary Cannons
> 12 Phoenix Firebirds 9 in 6:39 and 20 innings.
>
> 1:25 AM �" Greer Stadium, Nashville, Tennessee �" 5/5/2006 and
5/6/2006 �"
> Pacific Coast League �" New Orleans Zephyrs 5 Nashville Sounds 4
in 8:07 and 24
> innings, suspended after 6:23 and 18 innings �" 9124 fans on 5/5,
300 fans at
> suspension; 10,016 fans on 5/6 �" suspended at 1:25 AM in the
early morning of
> 5/6; finished at 7:44 PM on 5/6.
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#31

From: "John Moist" <johnmoist@...>
Date: Mon Feb 26, 2007 7:54 pm
Subject: Fw: Long Marathon Games in the PCL

johnmoist

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----- Original Message -----

From: PLowry1176@...

To: johnmoist@...

Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 7:02 AM

Subject: Fwd: Long Marathon Games in the PCL

Please post to Nor Cal SABR E-List.

Thank you,

Phil Lowry

AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com.

Mr. John Traub, GM, Albuquerque Isotopes

Mr. Garrett Fahrmann, GM, Fresno Grizzlies

Mr. Don Logan, GM, Las Vegas 51's

Mr. Glenn Yaeger, GM, Nashville Sounds

Mr. John Allgood, GM, Oklahoma RedHawks

Mr. John Cunningham, GM, Portland Beavers

Mr. ?, GM, Sacramento RiverCats

Mr. Dave Lewis, GM, Tacoma Rainiers

Mr. Tony Ensor, GM, Colorado Springs Sky Sox

Mr. Sam Bernabe, GM, Iowa Cubs

Mr. Dave Chase, GM, Memphis Redbirds

Mr. Mike Schline, GM, New Orleans Zephyrs

Mr. GM, Omaha Royals

Mr. Dave Fendrick, GM, Round Rock Express

Mr. Marc Amicone, GM, Salt Lake Bees

Mr. Rick Parr, GM, Tucson Sidewinders

Gentlemen,

The league office and league statistician for the Pacific Coast League are not sure which PCL games have ever lasted five or more hours, or 20 or more innings, or ended after 1 AM, and which doubleheaders have ever lasted 25 or more innings.

I have conducted research on this topic for the past 44 years, since 1963, but I know for certain that I'm missing many such games from your league. As you can see, there are only two such events listed in the past two decades. There MUST have been many other such events in the history of your league.

Is there any possibility that you could please have your team's statistician review this list, and let me know the details of your games which are missing from the list?

Thank you VERY much for your help.

Phil Lowry

GAMES LASTING FIVE OR MORE HOURS IN THE PACIFIC COAST LEAGUE (6)

5:15 – Dugdale Park, Seattle, Washington – 6/6/1924 – Seattle Indians 5 Vernon Tigers 4 in 19 innings.

5:04 – Lane Field, San Diego, California – 7/2/1958 – San Diego Padres 12 Salt Lake City Bees 11 in 16 innings – 5309 fans – finished at 1:04 AM in the early morning of 7/3.

5:56 – Sicks’ Stadium, Seattle, Washington - 5/8/1959 – Seattle Rainiers 6 Phoenix Giants 5 in 21 innings, 2nd game cancelled – 1787 fans – finished at 12:56 AM in the early morning of 5/9.

5:04 – Honolulu Stadium (later Termite Palace), Honolulu, Hawai’i – 5/23/1967 – Portland Beavers 7 Hawai’i Islanders 4 in 16 innings, rain delay 7th, brawl delay top 8th, 2nd rain delay 11th, 3rd rain delay 13th – finished at 1:22 AM in the early morning of 5/24.

6:39 – Municipal Stadium, Phoenix, Arizona – 6/23/1990 – Calgary Cannons 12 Phoenix Firebirds 9 in 20 innings – finished at 1:49 AM in the early morning of 6/24.

8:07 – Greer Stadium, Nashville, Tennessee – 5/5/2006 and 5/6/2006 – New Orleans Zephyrs 5 Nashville Sounds 4 in 24 innings, suspended after 6:23 and 18 innings – 9124 fans on 5/5, 300 fans at suspension; 10,016 fans on 5/6 – suspended at 1:25 AM in the early morning of 5/6; finished at 7:44 PM on 5/6.

GAMES LASTING 20 OR MORE INNINGS IN THE PACIFIC COAST LEAGUE (15)

20 – Vaughn Street Ballpark (later Lucky Beaver Stadium), Portland, Oregon - 8/2/1908 – San Francisco Seals 6 Portland Beavers 5 in 3:40.

24 – Freeman’s Park, Oakland, California – 6/8/1909 – San Francisco Seals 1 Oakland Oaks 0 in 3:35.

24 – Buffalo Park, Sacramento, California – 9/10/1911 – Portland Beavers 1 Sacramento Sacts 1 in 3:45.

21 – Washington Park, Los Angeles, California – 9/15/1911 – Sacramento Sacts 4 Los Angeles Angels 4 in 3:10.

20 – Washington Park, Los Angeles, California - 5/27/1914 – Oakland Oaks 4 Venice Tigers 2 in 4:02 – finished at 7:02 PM.

22 – Washington Park, Los Angeles, California – 4/10/1921 – Seattle Rainiers 12 Los Angeles Angels 8 in 4:46, 2nd game postponed – 13,000 fans.

22 – Oakland Baseball (later Oaks) Park, Emeryville, California – 5/6/1928 – Oakland Oaks 7 Sacramento Senators 6 in 4:00 in p.m. game, Sacramento 5 Oakland 2 in 1:45 in a.m. game.

20 – Lucky Beaver Stadium, Portland, Oregon - 5/7/1947 – Portland Beavers 1 Sacramento Solons 0 in 3:25 – finished at 11:45 PM.

22 – Seals Stadium, San Francisco, California – 8/5/1953 – Portland Beavers 4 San Francisco Seals 2 in 4:20 – 1394 fans.

21 – Gilmore Field, Hollywood, California - 5/12/1954 – Oakland Oaks 5 Hollywood Stars 1 in 4:52 – 2559 fans – finished at 1:10 AM in the early morning of 5/13.

20 – Lucky Beaver Stadium, Portland, Oregon – 4/24/1955 – Portland Beavers 3 San Diego Padres 2 in 4:14 in 2nd game, Portland 9 San Diego 5 in 2:06 in 1st game – 4760 fans.

21 – Sicks’ Stadium, Seattle, Washington - 5/8/1959 – Seattle Rainiers 6 Phoenix Giants 5 in 5:56, 2nd game cancelled – 1787 fans – finished at 12:56 AM in the early morning of 5/9.

20 – Hi Corbett Field, Tucson, Arizona – 6/3/1970 – Hawai’i Islanders 6 Tucson Toros 5 in 4:58 – finished at 12:58 AM in the early morning of 6/4.

20 – Municipal Stadium (II), Phoenix, Arizona – 6/23/1990 – Calgary Cannons 12 Phoenix Firebirds 9 in 6:39 – finished at 1:49 AM in the early morning of 6/24.

24 – Greer Stadium, Nashville, Tennessee – 5/5/2006 and 5/6/2006 – New Orleans Zephyrs 5 Nashville Sounds 4 in 8:07, suspended after 6:23 and 18 innings – 9124 fans on 5/5, 300 fans at suspension; 10,016 fans on 5/6 – suspended at 1:25 AM in the early morning of 5/6; finished at 7:44 PM on 5/6.

DOUBLEHEADERS LASTING 25 OR MORE INNINGS IN THE PACIFIC COAST LEAGUE (6)

28 – Oakland Baseball (later Oaks) Park, Emeryville and New Recreation Park, San Francisco, California – 6/4/1916 – Oakland Oaks 1 San Francisco Seals 0 in 18 innings in a.m. game in Oakland, then Oakland 4 San Francisco 3 in 2:07 and 10 innings in p.m. game in San Francisco.

31 – Oakland Baseball (later Oaks) Park, Emeryville, California – 5/6/1928 – Sacramento Senators 5 Oakland Oaks 2 in 1:45 and 9 innings in a.m. game, then Oakland 7 Sacramento 6 in 4:00 and 22 innings in p.m. game.

26 – Lucky Beaver Stadium, Portland, Oregon – 5/9/1943 – Los Angeles Angels 7 Portland Beavers 6 in 4:32 and 19 innings, then Los Angeles 2 Portland 1 in 1:38 and 7 innings.

25 – Lane Field, San Diego, California – 7/26/1953 – San Diego Padres 2 Seattle Rainiers 0, then Seattle 3 San Diego 2 in 16 innings.

29 – Lucky Beaver Stadium, Portland, Oregon – 4/24/1955 – Portland Beavers 9 San Diego Padres 5 in 2:06 and 9 innings, then Portland 3 San Diego 2 in 4:14 and 20 innings – 4760 fans.

27 – Sicks’ Stadium, Seattle, Washington – 5/26/1957 – Vancouver Mounties 7 Seattle Rainiers 2 in 2:20, then Vancouver 6 Seattle 4 in 4:30 and 18 innings – 3915 fans - 2nd game finished at 8:40 PM.

GAMES FINISHING AFTER 1 AM IN THE PACIFIC COAST LEAGUE (6)

1:20 AM – Wrigley Field, Los Angeles, California – 5/15/1931 – Los Angeles Angels 10 Portland Ducks 9 in 4:45 and 16 innings – 4500 fans, 3100 fans at end.

1:10 AM – Gilmore Field, Hollywood, California - 5/12/1954 – Oakland Oaks 5 Hollywood Stars 1 in 4:52 and 21 innings – 2559 fans.
1:04 AM – Lane Field, San Diego, California – 7/2/1958 – San Diego Padres 12 Salt Lake City Bees 11 in 5:04 and 16 innings – 5309 fans.

1:22 AM – Honolulu Stadium, Honolulu, Hawai’i – 5/23/1967 – Portland Beavers 7 Hawai’i Islanders 4 in 5:04 and 16 innings, rain delay 7th, brawl delay top 8th, 2nd rain delay 11th, 3rd rain delay 13th.

1:49 AM – Municipal Stadium, Phoenix, Arizona – 6/23/1990 – Calgary Cannons 12 Phoenix Firebirds 9 in 6:39 and 20 innings.

1:25 AM – Greer Stadium, Nashville, Tennessee – 5/5/2006 and 5/6/2006 – Pacific Coast League – New Orleans Zephyrs 5 Nashville Sounds 4 in 8:07 and 24 innings, suspended after 6:23 and 18 innings – 9124 fans on 5/5, 300 fans at suspension; 10,016 fans on 5/6 – suspended at 1:25 AM in the early morning of 5/6; finished at 7:44 PM on 5/6.

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#30

From: "marleneatsabr" <mvogelsang@...>
Date: Thu Feb 22, 2007 2:36 am
Subject: Spring Training Tickets - A's and Giants

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Hi friends,

I have some extra single tickets to Spring Training games in/around
Phoenix during the first week of games.

If you are interested, please contact me directly at
mvogelsang@... or call me at 510-589-8523

Saturday March 3  Cubs at A's  UpperBox h row 5 seat 4 ($17)
Sunday, March 4   A's at San Diego ( Peoria)sect 107 row h seat 6
($25.25)
Monday, March 5   A's at Angels (Tempe)section 4 row f seat 4 ($17)
Friday, March 9   A's at Giants (Scottsdale)blc e row 6 seat 12  ($20)

I am ready for some baseball...how about you?
Marlene

#29

From: "John Moist" <johnmoist@...>
Date: Mon Feb 12, 2007 10:58 pm
Subject: Feb 11 SABR lunch at AT&T Park

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Hi Marlene,

Great meeting yesterday, and thanks for a few minutes to talk. However, I need to make a correction. The uniwatch website is www.uniwatchblog.com . Again, it is run by Paul Lucas, a writer from New York, who also has the uniwatch column on www.espn.com Page 2 every few weeks. In addition to online discussions of uni's, there are alot of links to great sites like: "Dressed to the Nines" (SABR member Mark Okkonen's BB uni history, which is now part of the BB HOF), the Society for Sports Uniform Research (SSUR), MLB and MiLB logo histories; NHL and NFL uni history sites, and much more.

The other site is www.ballparkwatch.com , run by SABR member Kevin Reichard. It's a daily record of news stories related to the biz side of building ballparks, stadiums and arena. Kevin has also published several related books (The Complete Guide to Big League Ballparks and TCGT Spring Training). I asked Linda, our tourguide, if I could get any press release the Giants may issue about the seating increases.

Both websites are, of course, free, and alot of fun.

John

#28

From: "bkoron" <bkoron@...>
Date: Tue Feb 6, 2007 9:38 pm
Subject: Simnasium Total Baseball

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Fellow Lefty O'Doul Chapter SABR members:

I'm Barry Koron, Gene Sunnen's partner in his Giants seats, and I'm
the Commissioner of Baseball.

Before you conclude that I've taken leave of my senses, I'll hasten to
point out that I'm the Commissioner of Baseball for Simnasium, Inc., a
new Bay Area company, and the baseball I'm talking about is a
historical fantasy game, Simnasium Total Baseball.  You can read more
about it at

www.simnasium.com

If you're familiar with Tom Tippett, you know that he's a leading
sabermetrician whose presentations at SABR conventions are always
interesting and original.  He invented Diamond Mind Baseball, and
Simnasium Total Baseball is basically Diamond Mind online with career
player coding.

I'd like to give all NorCal SABR members a free Simnasium Total
Baseball team to play around with.  Here's how you get your free team:
  Register for an account at the site, and then write to
support@... and let us know you're here.  We will credit
your account with a free team and, in addition, you will also qualify
for our 2-for-1 program for your first purchase.

Give it a shot, and see what you think.  We'd be very interested in
your thoughts and suggestions.  Though we already think it's the best
baseball sim on the market, we'll always want to make it even better,
and we'd love to have the input of the people who really know about
baseball.

Thanks for reading.

~BK

#27

From: "John Moist" <johnmoist@...>
Date: Mon Feb 5, 2007 8:06 pm
Subject: SABR Sacramento Lunch

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Hi all,

Here's the info on our March 3 lunch.  Thanks to Michael Kennedy for the
great flyer.  It's great to have a professional making these flyers!

Please rsvp to me if you have any questions, or if you plan to attend, so we
will have a rough head count. Thanks!
John

#26

From: "John Moist" <johnmoist@...>
Date: Sun Feb 4, 2007 10:45 pm
Subject: Fw: Stan Hack

johnmoist

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Brock,

I forwarded your message to the NorCal SABR link, so everyone should get it.

John

----- Original Message -----

From: Carol Helander

To: johnmoist@...

Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 1:54 PM

Subject: Stan Hack

John,

Sending this under my wife's name cause that's the way the e-mail is set up right now.

Ed Carroll, a friend of my wife's son, is conducting a research project on Stan Hack as part of the Public History Program at CSUS. He's looking for source material. I gave him what was referenced at baseballindex.org.

Is there a Stan Hack expert in the local chapter of SABR? If there is (and willing to help), (s)he could either contact me at helander@... or Ed directly at twain170@....

Thanx,
Brock

#25

From: "John Moist" <johnmoist@...>
Date: Sun Feb 4, 2007 10:43 pm
Subject: Fw: Stan Hack

johnmoist

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Hi Brock, I just forwarded your message to the NorCal SABR link, so every member will get it.

----- Original Message -----

From: Carol Helander

To: johnmoist@...

Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 1:54 PM

Subject: Stan Hack

#24

From: Rick of AT&T Internet Services <tcw_rickieg@...>
Date: Sat Feb 3, 2007 4:39 pm
Subject: Re: Giants' season ticket plan

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I'm interested in the game tix and the FanFest. The
Oakland A's FanFest last weekend was my first FanFest
event, and it was fun.  We went with my buddy Doug and
his wife and it was a blast.  I'm sure the All-Star
FanFest will take it up a notch.  Also, I work for
AT&T; does that pull any weight at the ol' ballyard?

Rick
--- Gene Sunnen <gsunnen@...> wrote:

> Yes you can buy 2 or 3.  It would be most helpful.
>
> Thanks, John!
>
> Gene
> --- John Moist <johnmoist@...> wrote:
>
> > Rats.  Rich Macaluso and I share in a larger group
> > and get 7 games each, and I just bought 4 more
> from
> > another guy.  I'll let other folks know about
> these.
> >  Can I maybe buy 2 or 3 games?
> >
> > John
> >   ----- Original Message -----
> >   From: Gene Sunnen
> >   To: NorCalSABR@yahoogroups.com
> >   Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 6:20 PM
> >   Subject: Re: [NorCalSABR] Giants' season ticket
> > plan
> >
> >
> >   I belong to a group that has good, inexpensive
> > season
> >   tickets to the SF Giants. We are looking forward
> a
> >   fan or two to buy 6, 10, or 20 pairs of tickets
> > for
> >   our seats in section 320, row 2.
> >
> >   The tickets are $18.85 per ticket. Please
> respond
> > to
> >   me at
> >   gsunnen@... if you are interested.
> >
> >   Thanks!
> >
> >   Gene Sunnen
> >
> >
> >
>
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#23

From: Steve Sillen <stevesillen@...>
Date: Sat Feb 3, 2007 11:43 am
Subject: Re: Giants' season ticket plan

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I am interested too please contact me and let me know more info.

Steve Sillen

Gene Sunnen <gsunnen@...> wrote:

Yes you can buy 2 or 3. It would be most helpful.

Thanks, John!

Gene
--- John Moist <johnmoist@comcast.net> wrote:

> Rats. Rich Macaluso and I share in a larger group
> and get 7 games each, and I just bought 4 more from
> another guy. I'll let other folks know about these.
> Can I maybe buy 2 or 3 games?
>
> John
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Gene Sunnen
> To: NorCalSABR@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 6:20 PM
> Subject: Re: [NorCalSABR] Giants' season ticket
> plan
>
>
> I belong to a group that has good, inexpensive
> season
> tickets to the SF Giants. We are looking forward a
> fan or two to buy 6, 10, or 20 pairs of tickets
> for
> our seats in section 320, row 2.
>
> The tickets are $18.85 per ticket. Please respond
> to
> me at
> gsunnen@yahoo.com if you are interested.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Gene Sunnen
>
>
>
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#22

From: "jwpen2003" <jwpen@...>
Date: Sat Feb 3, 2007 10:16 am
Subject: All-Star FanFest

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Anyone have info on "coupons" or discounts for the All-Star FanFest?
"Coupons" are mentioned when placing orders for FanFest tix.
BTW, I wonder why it is so difficult to get to info on the 2007 All-Star game on
both the
Giants and the MLB sites.

#21

From: "John Moist" <johnmoist@...>
Date: Sat Feb 3, 2007 2:34 am
Subject: Re: Giants' season ticket plan

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Hi Gene,

Are these considered to be "View Box" or "View Reserved"? Would you have any saturday or sunday games available?

John

----- Original Message -----

From: Gene Sunnen

To: NorCalSABR@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 5:23 PM

Subject: Re: [NorCalSABR] Giants' season ticket plan

Yes you can buy 2 or 3. It would be most helpful.

Thanks, John!

Gene
--- John Moist <johnmoist@comcast.net> wrote:

> Rats. Rich Macaluso and I share in a larger group
> and get 7 games each, and I just bought 4 more from
> another guy. I'll let other folks know about these.
> Can I maybe buy 2 or 3 games?
>
> John
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Gene Sunnen
> To: NorCalSABR@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 6:20 PM
> Subject: Re: [NorCalSABR] Giants' season ticket
> plan
>
>
> I belong to a group that has good, inexpensive
> season
> tickets to the SF Giants. We are looking forward a
> fan or two to buy 6, 10, or 20 pairs of tickets
> for
> our seats in section 320, row 2.
>
> The tickets are $18.85 per ticket. Please respond
> to
> me at
> gsunnen@yahoo.com if you are interested.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Gene Sunnen
>
>
>
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#20

From: Gene Sunnen <gsunnen@...>
Date: Sat Feb 3, 2007 1:23 am
Subject: Re: Giants' season ticket plan

gsunnen@...

Yes you can buy 2 or 3.  It would be most helpful.

Thanks, John!

Gene
--- John Moist <johnmoist@...> wrote:

> Rats.  Rich Macaluso and I share in a larger group
> and get 7 games each, and I just bought 4 more from
> another guy.  I'll let other folks know about these.
>  Can I maybe buy 2 or 3 games?
>
> John
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Gene Sunnen
>   To: NorCalSABR@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 6:20 PM
>   Subject: Re: [NorCalSABR] Giants' season ticket
> plan
>
>
>   I belong to a group that has good, inexpensive
> season
>   tickets to the SF Giants. We are looking forward a
>   fan or two to buy 6, 10, or 20 pairs of tickets
> for
>   our seats in section 320, row 2.
>
>   The tickets are $18.85 per ticket. Please respond
> to
>   me at
>   gsunnen@... if you are interested.
>
>   Thanks!
>
>   Gene Sunnen
>
>
>
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#19

From: "John Moist" <johnmoist@...>
Date: Sat Feb 3, 2007 12:40 am
Subject: Re: Giants' season ticket plan

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Rats. Rich Macaluso and I share in a larger group and get 7 games each, and I just bought 4 more from another guy. I'll let other folks know about these. Can I maybe buy 2 or 3 games?

John

----- Original Message -----

From: Gene Sunnen

To: NorCalSABR@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 6:20 PM

Subject: Re: [NorCalSABR] Giants' season ticket plan

I belong to a group that has good, inexpensive season
tickets to the SF Giants. We are looking forward a
fan or two to buy 6, 10, or 20 pairs of tickets for
our seats in section 320, row 2.

The tickets are $18.85 per ticket. Please respond to
me at
gsunnen@yahoo.com if you are interested.

Thanks!

Gene Sunnen

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#18

From: Gene Sunnen <gsunnen@...>
Date: Thu Feb 1, 2007 2:20 am
Subject: Re: Giants' season ticket plan

gsunnen@...

I belong to a group that has good, inexpensive season
tickets to the SF Giants.  We are looking forward a
fan or two to buy 6, 10, or 20 pairs of tickets for
our seats in section 320, row 2.

The tickets are $18.85 per ticket.  Please respond to
me at
gsunnen@... if you are interested.

Thanks!

Gene Sunnen



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