Financial filing offers rare glimpse into NASCAR sanctioning stipulations

I think Joe Blow had a bad deal and has no power. Kids dealt a bad hand.

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Financial filing offers rare glimpse into NASCAR sanctioning stipulations

By Bob Pockrass - Associate Editor

Friday, November 13, 2009

Dover International Speedway's sanction agreement offers some insight into NASCAR requirements for tracks.

David Griffin
NASCAR Scene

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AVONDALE, Ariz. � A Dover International Speedway filing with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission this week offers an unusually detailed look at the range and scope of NASCAR�s sanctioning agreements, including a $6.055 million fee for the track�s May Sprint Cup race and $5.429 million for its September event.

Dover�s estimated broadcast revenue for the events will be $12.645 million for May and $10.473 million for September, according to the filing. With tracks having to contribute about 27.8 percent of their television revenue to the race purses, Dover�s television revenue pays for $3.51 million of its May purse and $2.91 million of its September purse.

The 2010 sanction agreements, minus the financial details listed on an amendment page, also were filed Thursday with the SEC. The 22-page sanction agreements are general in nature � only a cover sheet lists the date, the track and the promoter (in this case, Dover). Dover, which also owns tracks near Nashville and St. Louis but hosts Cup events only at the Delaware venue, must file the agreements with the SEC because it is these two agreements on which its �business is substantially dependent.� In a previous filing, Dover reported that 70 percent of its total revenues come from its Sprint Cup weekends.

Among the other items listed in the 2010 NASCAR Sprint Cup sanction agreements that Dover filed:

� The track must carry $50 million in liability insurance and $1 million in medical malpractice liability insurance. NASCAR must be listed among the insured. NASCAR must require the TV partner to carry $2 million in general liability insurance ($1 million limit per occurrence) that includes the promoter in that policy.

� A track cannot alter the racing surface by painting, sealing or resurfacing without prior written consent of NASCAR.

� NASCAR can postpone or cancel an event if the promoter does not fix any unsatisfactory racing surface, barriers, fencing, retaining systems, SAFER barrier systems, garage area, pit area, race control area, timing and scoring areas or structures used for broadcast of the event.

� NASCAR says it will attempt to consult with the promoter regarding postponement of events, but the decision to postpone is NASCAR�s.

� NASCAR gets 225 reserved choice grandstand tickets for the race and 200 for qualifying.

� The track must provide 325 parking passes/permits adjacent to or near the garage area for NASCAR and 50 in close proximity to the NASCAR track suite.

� The track must provide two pace vehicles. It also must provide 150 chairs in an enclosed, climate-controlled area for the drivers meeting. It must provide a control tower with air conditioning, heat, 14 chairs (with cushions), phone line and television monitors.

� The track must provide a television booth for at least five people, air-conditioned to 68 degrees. The TV partner also gets 300 tickets plus one luxury track suite. The track also must use �reasonable efforts to cause the title sponsor of the event to buy advertising in the telecasts.� NASCAR requires its broadcast partner to say the name of the race at least once during the opening segment of the telecast and thereafter at least once during each hour of the telecast.

� NASCAR reserves the right to approve or disapprove any advertising or sponsorship in connection with the event.

� The track must have authorization from any musician to play a song over loudspeakers during an event when the TV partner is on the air and there is a chance it would be picked up during the telecast.

� The track must not allow testing forbidden by the NASCAR testing policy.

� The track cannot use NASCAR�s point or money standings to determine the eligibility of a competitor for a non-NASCAR-sanctioned race at its track.

The general terms of the sanction agreements are virtually the same as last year with one notable exception, and it is in the section dealing with the potential default of a promoter.

In that section, an entire graph was added under the provisions of a default:

�If NASCAR becomes aware, through any means, of a possible change in the promoter�s affairs which might reasonably be determined to have a material adverse effect on the organization or conduct of the Event, including, but not limited to, the withdrawal or reduction of major event sponsorship(s), delinquencies or defaults by promoter in payments to other entities, litigation relative to the event, promoter or the facility, failure of promoter to perform under similar agreements with third parties for other events, and so on, then NASCAR may require promoter to take whatever action that NASCAR determines is necessary to insure the successful organization and conduct of the event. Such action may include, but is not limited to, posting a bond, providing an irrevocable letter of credit, and/or providing a financial instrument, or mechanism sufficient to guarantee, in NASCAR�s reasonable discretion, that all financial obligations of the promoter relative to the Event can be met.�

NASCAR officials didn�t immediately comment on whether that clause has anything to do with what happened earlier this year with the Milwaukee Mile. NASCAR has stated that there are unresolved issues concerning the 2009 races in its Nationwide and Camping World Truck series there.

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Date: Fri Nov 13, 2009 11:26 pm
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Ryan Newman�just said (on ESPN) that Army has signed on as sponsor for the #39 for 2010!!!� Yahoooooooo !!!

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Date: Fri Nov 13, 2009 7:51 pm
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will arca switch to the cot like the sprint cup and nationwide series has done?

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Subject: [NoBarNascar] ARCA Approves New Chassis

Officials of the Automobile Racing Club of America (ARCA) have announced that the 105-inch wheelbase chassis currently used in the NASCAR Nationwide and NASCAR Camping World East and West Series has been approved for competition in 2010 in the ARCA Racing Series presented by RE/MAX.

The 105-inch wheelbase chassis will be approved for ARCA competition at all tracks except the restrictor plate venues of Daytona Int'l Speedway and Talladega Superspeedway. The newly approved wheelbase chassis will see action on-track alongside the current 110-inch wheelbase cars at 19 of the series' 21 races in 2010, with a rules package designed to create parity between the 105- and 110-inch cars. Outwardly, all cars will bear the same sheet metal configuration as the present lineup including Chevrolet Monte Carlo and Impala SS, Dodge Charger, Ford Fusion and Toyota Camry body styles. The ARCA base rules package of 3400 pound, steel-bodied stock cars with corresponding auto manufacturer engine and body configuration will remain in place.

The timing of the approval coincides with the gradual exit of the present-day 105-inch wheelbase chassis from the Nationwide Series. NASCAR has announced the introduction of the Car of Tomorrow (COT) into the Nationwide Series in 2010, beginning with the July race at Daytona Int'l Speedway. By the end of next season, the Nationwide Series is scheduled to have transitioned exclusively to use of the COT for 2011.

"Since the inception of our series in 1953, we've kept an open line of communication with NASCAR and others to monitor industry trends," said ARCA President Ron Drager. "At the time of the evolution of the NASCAR Sprint Cup COT technology, ARCA team owners represented a market for NASCAR team owners to sell the racecars they were cycling out of inventory. We're positioned to accommodate a similar situation with the NASCAR Nationwide team owners. We've invested a great deal of research and interaction into this move with several groups, in particular our ARCA team owners, and we feel this is the right step with the proper timing for everyone involved."

Currently, the only chassis approved for use in ARCA is the 110-inch wheelbase car, which the series has campaigned exclusively since 1985. ARCA experienced an influx of racecars as the NASCAR Sprint Cup Series transitioned to the COT technology in 2007.

The 2010 ARCA Racing Series presented by RE/MAX kicks off at Daytona Int'l Speedway on Saturday, Feb. 6, with the 47th running of the Lucas Oil Slick Mist 200.

The 105-inch wheelbase chassis will be approved for ARCA competition at all tracks except the restrictor plate venues of Daytona Int'l Speedway and Talladega Superspeedway. The newly approved wheelbase chassis will see action on-track alongside the current 110-inch wheelbase cars at 19 of the series' 21 races in 2010, with a rules package designed to create parity between the 105- and 110-inch cars. Outwardly, all cars will bear the same sheet metal configuration as the present lineup including Chevrolet Monte Carlo and Impala SS, Dodge Charger, Ford Fusion and Toyota Camry body styles. The ARCA base rules package of 3400 pound, steel-bodied stock cars with corresponding auto manufacturer engine and body configuration will remain in place.

The timing of the approval coincides with the gradual exit of the present-day 105-inch wheelbase chassis from the Nationwide Series. NASCAR has announced the introduction of the Car of Tomorrow (COT) into the Nationwide Series in 2010, beginning with the July race at Daytona Int'l Speedway. By the end of next season, the Nationwide Series is scheduled to have transitioned exclusively to use of the COT for 2011.

"Since the inception of our series in 1953, we've kept an open line of communication with NASCAR and others to monitor industry trends," said ARCA President Ron Drager. "At the time of the evolution of the NASCAR Sprint Cup COT technology, ARCA team owners represented a market for NASCAR team owners to sell the racecars they were cycling out of inventory. We're positioned to accommodate a similar situation with the NASCAR Nationwide team owners. We've invested a great deal of research and interaction into this move with several groups, in particular our ARCA team owners, and we feel this is the right step with the proper timing for everyone involved."

Currently, the only chassis approved for use in ARCA is the 110-inch wheelbase car, which the series has campaigned exclusively since 1985. ARCA experienced an influx of racecars as the NASCAR Sprint Cup Series transitioned to the COT technology in 2007.

The 2010 ARCA Racing Series presented by RE/MAX kicks off at Daytona Int'l Speedway on Saturday, Feb. 6, with the 47th running of the Lucas Oil Slick Mist 200.

#33094

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Date: Fri Nov 13, 2009 4:23 pm
Subject: Re: Matt Mouths Off

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Matt McLaughlin Mouths Off: Racing Against the Media-ocrity

Matt McLaughlin

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To put it politely, Cup racing in 2009 hasn�t been very good. This grizzled ol� cantankerous scribe could put it a lot less politely � and many of you normally gentle readers have expressed your sentiments on this season in increasingly pointed (and even profane) terms. What started as distant thunder back in February has become a deafening drumbeat late this Fall. By the way, some of ya�ll are just out and out nasty � and that�s one of the things I love about you.

But let�s mind our manners. I don�t think it�s a stretch to say that this has been the worst season of Cup racing since at least 1998, when the 5 and 5 rules turned the season into an unholy farce that still causes me to grind my teeth to calcium powder recalling it.

There are a lot of opinions on what�s gone wrong. Some blame the tepid racing on the new cars. Others argue it�s the fault of the new points system. Some want to hang blame on a new generation of cardboard cutout, white Wonder Bread drivers who�d make Pollyanna sick to her stomach. I personally hang a lot of the blame on the loss of race dates at tracks that routinely provided outstanding racing (Darlington, Rockingham, North Wilkesboro) but whose dates were moved to cookie cutter tracks that have routinely provided, (be polite here, Matt) tepid racing. Still others want to fault the emergence of a few superteams that are dominating the sport. There�s a thousand reasons why the racing is so awful right now, and it�s probably some combination of the above that is causing the problem � though to what degree can be debated endlessly.

What can�t be debated is the racing this season, at least on the Cup level, has been really, really bad. At times, the drivers have even admitted as much. NASCAR statisticians try wallpapering over the problem with all these �green flag passes for the lead� numbers. (Here�s a hint: During a long green flag run when the leaders are ducking into the pits to refuel and re-shoe their mounts, there�s a lot of green flag passes for the lead � it�s just not much fun to watch.)

Even the TV guys admitted things were pretty sedate, perhaps overly so, at Talladega. Hell, even NASCAR officials have tried covering things up, saying things like, �Well, they can�t all be classics.� (Well yeah, OK, but can�t one or two a season be classics just to keep us watching?)

As for the fans, if Brian France, under an assumed identity for his own safety, were to visit the average fan-driven NASCAR message board and read the fans� opinions of the races� he�d be sleeping in his closet, Dr. Dentons zipped up tight, both thumbs firmly entrenched in his mouth having nightmares for a month.

But man, fixing this problem could cost money. Lots of it. If the ISC had to fix its tracks to allow for better racing, it�s going to really beat up their already-battered bottom line. Scrapping the CoT and replacing them with real race cars is going to be awfully costly for the team owners. Scrapping the Chase is going to leave some serious egg on Brian France�s constantly twitching face, and even if they work free, paying 300 apes in bananas to sit at keyboards for 30 hours until one of them bangs out a better points system than the Chase, it could be prohibitively expensive.

So how do we fix this problem without costing rich people any money or making any substantive progress on actually improving �the product?� Well apparently, NASCAR�s latest brainstorm is to blame the media. The racing is just fine. In fact, it�s better than ever. It could not possibly be improved one iota. It�s just the nattering negative nabobs in the media that are convincing fans that this year�s racing is the equivalent to a nine month long proctologic exam in the front window of a department store while Britney Spears� music is piped into the room at maximum volume.

Wow, me and the other negative nabobs in the media made it 10 months with our evil plot to overthrow NASCAR so we could be unemployedm too, but with two weeks left to go this season, we got caught. I�m sorry � does this make sense to anyone? Who, exactly, is behind this giant conspiracy? Whoever dreamed up this humdinger needs to steal a page from South Park and Blame Canada!

Apparently, in one of their closed door town meetings, NASCAR officials offered up the talking point that it�s time to blame the media for the perception that the sport has become boring. They probably pointed out the grandstands are far from full and the TV ratings are down, but that sort of crap makes sponsors nervous, and nervous sponsors are less willing to write the big checks that keep your mansions stocked with Bentleys and Cheezy Poofs. And a separate meeting with the ABC/ESPN announce team must have really roasted those folks� chestnuts on an open fire, because they were backpedaling from their comments about Talladega all afternoon at Texas.

The boy next door, Carl Edwards hinted at the theme over the radio during the race. Everyone�s most respect sage, Mark Martin, added he�d been around a long time and the racing doesn�t suck any worse than it ever did. Wow, what a stunning endorsement of what you do for a living! But if you�re going to launch a full-on assault on the media, the attack dog you want to take off the leash is Tony Stewart.

Since entering the garage area, knuckles dragging on the ground, his middle swollen like he�s carrying triplets, unshaven and with a chip on his shoulder the size of an crew cab duly loaded with two cords of firewood, Stewart has made his dislike of the media obvious. A lot of drivers have somewhat strained relations with the media, but few have resorted to actually physically assaulting said scribes. Well Mr. Stewart likes to remind people he doesn�t have time to answer stupid questions. After all, being as fabulous as he is a 24-7 challenge. (To clue Tony in: media members don�t like asking stupid people questions, either, but that�s what we get paid to do sometimes.)

Stewart can wheel a race car about as well as anyone who�s ever drawn breath on this earth, but he�s dumber than an acre of mud. When he has a point that he wants to make, he comes running to the media babbling like a holy roller seeing the first bag of rattlesnakes entering the church. But if he�s in a bad mood, don�t expect him to fulfill the same obligations other drivers who finished in the top 3 are expected to endure. He is, after all, TONY STEWART. We�re just �the rest of us� � privileged to be drawing breath on his planet.

Well, Mr. Stewart now claims that boring races are just a myth that the media has created and that the racing is great. If the media would just shut their yaps and unplug their keyboards, all would be well.

Frankly, I don�t think so.

I know race fans pretty well. After all, I�ve been one for 40-something years now. I hear from them not only daily but hourly. I�ve spent long afternoons seated with them on the side of the catchfence where you pay to be as opposed to the side where you get paid to be. I sit at their kitchen tables discussing the sport with them. I�m elbow-to-elbow with them at taverns, and sitting beside them on a guardrail catching a smoke while our Harleys make that ticking sound cooling off. I debate the sport and the relative worth of each event with them standing in line at the Wawa or the Dunkin� Donuts in the morning � and most of the time, I do a lot more listening than talking.

A lot of them know who I am and what I do, but they want to talk. They�ve read what I had to say. Now they want me to hear their opinions. Funny thing is, I�ve never run into Brian France or Tony Stewart at Dunkin� Donuts. Come on by, guys. I�ll spring for the coffee and a sausage biscuit.

America runs on Dunkins�. You dummies are just running out of time.

Here�s what I know about stock car racing fans � or at least the fans that are left. These people are passionate about their sport (and it does, in fact, belong to them since they ultimately pay the bills that keep the circus tent erected.) They have strong opinions about it. Nothing I write, nothing any scribe can write about the sport, is going to change their passionate beliefs. I might give them some points to ponder from time to time, and they�ll wish to debate them with me via email or in the Wawa parking lot, but that�s my job as a writer.

There�s still a perception in some circles that somehow stock car racing fans are some illiterate bunch of toothless boobs tuning in on Sunday to see big wrecks. I know that not to be the case. I know surgeons, psychiatrists, and priests who are stock car racing fans. And if there are fans who might not have a formal education beyond a couple years of high school, they still know their sport. They have strongly-held opinions, and they�ll debate them to their dying breath. If anyone out there thinks I have some Svengali-like power to hypnotize mass numbers of folks from all walks of life into adopting my attitude and my opinions, your estimation of my talent is light years beyond my own.

If anything, I think I feed off the fans I deal with and their attitudes more than they do mine. In my weekly race piece, the largest section is entitled �What They�ll Be Talking About Around the Water Cooler This Week.� As I prepare that section, I�m surfing the message boards I frequent seeing what the fans are talking about, what they liked about an issue or race, and what got their goat. Somewhere along the way, I�ve figured out that it�s the fans that keep me employed doing this job. You paid for the Harley (thank ya�ll, I really dig it). There�s a few drivers in NASCAR who would do well to remember they�re in the same boat � only I�m in steerage and they�re in the outside suite. And this boat is taking on water at an alarming rate while the crew dances on deck proclaiming all is well.

Sure, it�s the media�s fault. Keep believing that, just like the guy coughing up blood into his handkerchief keeps believing it�s seasonal allergies and not lung cancer.

Cup Racing this year has sucked. You can launch a witch hunt claiming the media is to blame, or you can start correcting the fundamental issues that are destroying the sport. These drivers and NASCAR officials can launch all the rocks at me they want. Pretty damn soon, they�re going to be tossing them at taillights disappearing towards the horizon.

Stewart once raged that NASCAR needed to get the fans out of the garage area, that it was the teams� workspace and having all those representatives of the unwashed masses around made him claustrophobic. Now, apparently, Stewart is ready to toss the media out of the garage too. Given a couple years, I think Tony is going to like the garage area just fine. The media will be gone. The fans will be gone � a lot of the teams and drivers will be gone. He�ll have no reason to feel claustrophobic standing among those who are left studying the vast swaths of empty seats in the grandstands.

Will the last person to abandon NASCAR kindly turn out the lights on your way out the door?

Contact Matt McLaughlin

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From: "Nell Hooker" <homefreehighrollerblue@...>
Date: Fri Nov 13, 2009 1:09 pm
Subject: Matt Mouths Off

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Matt McLaughlin Mouths Off: Racing Against the Media-ocrity

Matt McLaughlin

To put it politely, Cup racing in 2009 hasn�t been very good. This grizzled ol� cantankerous scribe could put it a lot less politely � and many of you normally gentle readers have expressed your sentiments on this season in increasingly pointed (and even profane) terms. What started as distant thunder back in February has become a deafening drumbeat late this Fall. By the way, some of ya�ll are just out and out nasty � and that�s one of the things I love about you.

But let�s mind our manners. I don�t think it�s a stretch to say that this has been the worst season of Cup racing since at least 1998, when the 5 and 5 rules turned the season into an unholy farce that still causes me to grind my teeth to calcium powder recalling it.

There are a lot of opinions on what�s gone wrong. Some blame the tepid racing on the new cars. Others argue it�s the fault of the new points system. Some want to hang blame on a new generation of cardboard cutout, white Wonder Bread drivers who�d make Pollyanna sick to her stomach. I personally hang a lot of the blame on the loss of race dates at tracks that routinely provided outstanding racing (Darlington, Rockingham, North Wilkesboro) but whose dates were moved to cookie cutter tracks that have routinely provided, (be polite here, Matt) tepid racing. Still others want to fault the emergence of a few superteams that are dominating the sport. There�s a thousand reasons why the racing is so awful right now, and it�s probably some combination of the above that is causing the problem � though to what degree can be debated endlessly.

What can�t be debated is the racing this season, at least on the Cup level, has been really, really bad. At times, the drivers have even admitted as much. NASCAR statisticians try wallpapering over the problem with all these �green flag passes for the lead� numbers. (Here�s a hint: During a long green flag run when the leaders are ducking into the pits to refuel and re-shoe their mounts, there�s a lot of green flag passes for the lead � it�s just not much fun to watch.)

Even the TV guys admitted things were pretty sedate, perhaps overly so, at Talladega. Hell, even NASCAR officials have tried covering things up, saying things like, �Well, they can�t all be classics.� (Well yeah, OK, but can�t one or two a season be classics just to keep us watching?)

As for the fans, if Brian France, under an assumed identity for his own safety, were to visit the average fan-driven NASCAR message board and read the fans� opinions of the races� he�d be sleeping in his closet, Dr. Dentons zipped up tight, both thumbs firmly entrenched in his mouth having nightmares for a month.

But man, fixing this problem could cost money. Lots of it. If the ISC had to fix its tracks to allow for better racing, it�s going to really beat up their already-battered bottom line. Scrapping the CoT and replacing them with real race cars is going to be awfully costly for the team owners. Scrapping the Chase is going to leave some serious egg on Brian France�s constantly twitching face, and even if they work free, paying 300 apes in bananas to sit at keyboards for 30 hours until one of them bangs out a better points system than the Chase, it could be prohibitively expensive.

So how do we fix this problem without costing rich people any money or making any substantive progress on actually improving �the product?� Well apparently, NASCAR�s latest brainstorm is to blame the media. The racing is just fine. In fact, it�s better than ever. It could not possibly be improved one iota. It�s just the nattering negative nabobs in the media that are convincing fans that this year�s racing is the equivalent to a nine month long proctologic exam in the front window of a department store while Britney Spears� music is piped into the room at maximum volume.

Wow, me and the other negative nabobs in the media made it 10 months with our evil plot to overthrow NASCAR so we could be unemployedm too, but with two weeks left to go this season, we got caught. I�m sorry � does this make sense to anyone? Who, exactly, is behind this giant conspiracy? Whoever dreamed up this humdinger needs to steal a page from South Park and Blame Canada!

Apparently, in one of their closed door town meetings, NASCAR officials offered up the talking point that it�s time to blame the media for the perception that the sport has become boring. They probably pointed out the grandstands are far from full and the TV ratings are down, but that sort of crap makes sponsors nervous, and nervous sponsors are less willing to write the big checks that keep your mansions stocked with Bentleys and Cheezy Poofs. And a separate meeting with the ABC/ESPN announce team must have really roasted those folks� chestnuts on an open fire, because they were backpedaling from their comments about Talladega all afternoon at Texas.

The boy next door, Carl Edwards hinted at the theme over the radio during the race. Everyone�s most respect sage, Mark Martin, added he�d been around a long time and the racing doesn�t suck any worse than it ever did. Wow, what a stunning endorsement of what you do for a living! But if you�re going to launch a full-on assault on the media, the attack dog you want to take off the leash is Tony Stewart.

Since entering the garage area, knuckles dragging on the ground, his middle swollen like he�s carrying triplets, unshaven and with a chip on his shoulder the size of an crew cab duly loaded with two cords of firewood, Stewart has made his dislike of the media obvious. A lot of drivers have somewhat strained relations with the media, but few have resorted to actually physically assaulting said scribes. Well Mr. Stewart likes to remind people he doesn�t have time to answer stupid questions. After all, being as fabulous as he is a 24-7 challenge. (To clue Tony in: media members don�t like asking stupid people questions, either, but that�s what we get paid to do sometimes.)

Stewart can wheel a race car about as well as anyone who�s ever drawn breath on this earth, but he�s dumber than an acre of mud. When he has a point that he wants to make, he comes running to the media babbling like a holy roller seeing the first bag of rattlesnakes entering the church. But if he�s in a bad mood, don�t expect him to fulfill the same obligations other drivers who finished in the top 3 are expected to endure. He is, after all, TONY STEWART. We�re just �the rest of us� � privileged to be drawing breath on his planet.

Well, Mr. Stewart now claims that boring races are just a myth that the media has created and that the racing is great. If the media would just shut their yaps and unplug their keyboards, all would be well.

Frankly, I don�t think so.

I know race fans pretty well. After all, I�ve been one for 40-something years now. I hear from them not only daily but hourly. I�ve spent long afternoons seated with them on the side of the catchfence where you pay to be as opposed to the side where you get paid to be. I sit at their kitchen tables discussing the sport with them. I�m elbow-to-elbow with them at taverns, and sitting beside them on a guardrail catching a smoke while our Harleys make that ticking sound cooling off. I debate the sport and the relative worth of each event with them standing in line at the Wawa or the Dunkin� Donuts in the morning � and most of the time, I do a lot more listening than talking.

A lot of them know who I am and what I do, but they want to talk. They�ve read what I had to say. Now they want me to hear their opinions. Funny thing is, I�ve never run into Brian France or Tony Stewart at Dunkin� Donuts. Come on by, guys. I�ll spring for the coffee and a sausage biscuit.

America runs on Dunkins�. You dummies are just running out of time.

Here�s what I know about stock car racing fans � or at least the fans that are left. These people are passionate about their sport (and it does, in fact, belong to them since they ultimately pay the bills that keep the circus tent erected.) They have strong opinions about it. Nothing I write, nothing any scribe can write about the sport, is going to change their passionate beliefs. I might give them some points to ponder from time to time, and they�ll wish to debate them with me via email or in the Wawa parking lot, but that�s my job as a writer.

There�s still a perception in some circles that somehow stock car racing fans are some illiterate bunch of toothless boobs tuning in on Sunday to see big wrecks. I know that not to be the case. I know surgeons, psychiatrists, and priests who are stock car racing fans. And if there are fans who might not have a formal education beyond a couple years of high school, they still know their sport. They have strongly-held opinions, and they�ll debate them to their dying breath. If anyone out there thinks I have some Svengali-like power to hypnotize mass numbers of folks from all walks of life into adopting my attitude and my opinions, your estimation of my talent is light years beyond my own.

If anything, I think I feed off the fans I deal with and their attitudes more than they do mine. In my weekly race piece, the largest section is entitled �What They�ll Be Talking About Around the Water Cooler This Week.� As I prepare that section, I�m surfing the message boards I frequent seeing what the fans are talking about, what they liked about an issue or race, and what got their goat. Somewhere along the way, I�ve figured out that it�s the fans that keep me employed doing this job. You paid for the Harley (thank ya�ll, I really dig it). There�s a few drivers in NASCAR who would do well to remember they�re in the same boat � only I�m in steerage and they�re in the outside suite. And this boat is taking on water at an alarming rate while the crew dances on deck proclaiming all is well.

Sure, it�s the media�s fault. Keep believing that, just like the guy coughing up blood into his handkerchief keeps believing it�s seasonal allergies and not lung cancer.

Cup Racing this year has sucked. You can launch a witch hunt claiming the media is to blame, or you can start correcting the fundamental issues that are destroying the sport. These drivers and NASCAR officials can launch all the rocks at me they want. Pretty damn soon, they�re going to be tossing them at taillights disappearing towards the horizon.

Stewart once raged that NASCAR needed to get the fans out of the garage area, that it was the teams� workspace and having all those representatives of the unwashed masses around made him claustrophobic. Now, apparently, Stewart is ready to toss the media out of the garage too. Given a couple years, I think Tony is going to like the garage area just fine. The media will be gone. The fans will be gone � a lot of the teams and drivers will be gone. He�ll have no reason to feel claustrophobic standing among those who are left studying the vast swaths of empty seats in the grandstands.

Will the last person to abandon NASCAR kindly turn out the lights on your way out the door?

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#33092

From: Nell Hooker <homefreehighrollerblue@...>
Date: Fri Nov 13, 2009 12:52 pm
Subject: Re: Revisiting Dale Earnhardt Jr's First Victory Lane

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I know things have changed, and I was out in the workforce too. You all think I am not out in this world to see how things have changed, but you are all wrong. I am happy people have more opportunitises than they use too, and I do face the reality that things have changed.

From: kaboom10 <kaboom10@...>
To: NoBarNascar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, November 13, 2009 5:35:18 AM
Subject: Re: [NoBarNascar] Revisiting Dale Earnhardt Jr's First Victory Lane

face it Nell, life and society have changed for a new direction be it right or wrong. Women are out in the work force right next to men. They bring home the bacon along with their husbands. They can be found up telephone poles doing dangerous jobs along with men. Change has hit us old schoolers like a ton of bricks and that's the way it is. There's no turning back.

----- Original Message -----

From: Nell Hooker

To: NoBarNascar@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 3:29 PM

Subject: Re: [NoBarNascar] Revisiting Dale Earnhardt Jr's First Victory Lane

No Scott, you did not insult me or call me names.  I just do not like the idea of a woman being in Nascar at this place and time. I maybe wrong, and will have to eat my words. I was brought up to think a woman and man had their place in the world. Men were suppose to make a living, and the woman stayed home and took care of the home, and children, and that is why I said, because I was brought up in the

old-fashioned way.  At this time men were suppose to be stronger than women, and smarter than a women. Most all of the girls I graduated with got married, and had a family. None went to college!  I went to college, when I was 45, and received my degree, which I thought I had accomplished the world because of my age. I hope this will help you in some way of why I do not like a woman in Nascar. Most of you in this group are a lot younger than I am, so you were brought up much different than I was.  I have three granddaughters, and I hope than become whatever they would like to become, but I would not like for them to be in Nascar. Nascar is a dangerous sport!!  One wants to be a Marine biologist, one wants to be Doctor, and the other one wants to be a Nurse. I don't like the idea of them being in danger, and getting hurt.

Ne;;

From: SCOTT HUMM <westshore82@ verizon.net>
To: NoBarNascar@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Wed, November 11, 2009 5:09:44 PM
Subject: Re: [NoBarNascar] Revisiting Dale Earnhardt Jr's First Victory Lane

I don't think that I insulted you, calle you any name or made any derogitory comment towards you. All I asked for was for you to explain WHY women do not belong in Nascar. Up until now, you still have not made any points. To say they are bitchey and whiney just described 99% of the drivers in nascar who at this point are male. So what you are telling me with this comment is that they are equal to the male counterparts. If that is indeed the case, then there is no reason why they can't race. If you think otherwise, that is fine. Just back up your opinion with something other than what describes the drivers at this point in time.

From: Nell Hooker <homefreehighrollerb lue@yahoo. com>
To: NoBarNascar@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Wed, November 11, 2009 12:05:35 PM
Subject: Re: [NoBarNascar] Revisiting Dale Earnhardt Jr's First Victory Lane

I have just as many emails as you do! The one hundred that was posted included everyone else's insults to me. I was responding to all of your insults!

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From: Todd Priest

Date: 11/11/2009 5:16:04 AM

To: NoBarNascar@ yahoogroups. com

Subject: Re: [NoBarNascar] Revisiting Dale Earnhardt Jr's First Victory Lane

I do Nell. Every single one. Even the one hundred that you post.

--- On Tue, 11/10/09, Nell Hooker <homefreehighrollerb lue@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: Nell Hooker <homefreehighrollerb lue@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [NoBarNascar] Revisiting Dale Earnhardt Jr's First Victory Lane
To: NoBarNascar@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Tuesday, November 10, 2009, 8:56 PM

You need to read your email Todd!!!!

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From: Todd Priest

Date: 11/10/2009 6:58:19 PM

To: NoBarNascar@ yahoogroups. com

Subject: Re: [NoBarNascar] Revisiting Dale Earnhardt Jr's First Victory Lane

Who are you talking about? Oh, pot, meet kettle......

--- On Tue, 11/10/09, Nell Hooker <homefreehighrollerb lue@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: Nell Hooker <homefreehighrollerb lue@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [NoBarNascar] Revisiting Dale Earnhardt Jr's First Victory Lane
To: NoBarNascar@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Tuesday, November 10, 2009, 6:27 PM

I know you cannot help yourself, because you are just like your twin in the other groups. All you and Punkin know how to do is start name calling, and I for one am sick of it. You both think you know more than anyone else. I got news for you, you are not any smarter than anyone else. You just plain rude and stupid yourself. You both need to get married, you would make a perfect match. I tell you what from the pictures I have seen of her, she looks like she is ready to get on her broom and fly! Join her please!!!   Cannot help myself!!!!!

From: holysmoke2010 <smokem1439@gmail. com>
To: NoBarNascar@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Tue, November 10, 2009 9:23:04 AM
Subject: Re: [NoBarNascar] Revisiting Dale Earnhardt Jr's First Victory Lane

Sorry Todd, I couldn't help myself..LOL Goooo Danica, Prove her wrong !

--- In NoBarNascar@ yahoogroups. com, "Nell Hooker" <homefreehighrollerb lue@...> wrote:
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#33091

From: "Nell Hooker" <homefreehighrollerblue@...>
Date: Fri Nov 13, 2009 1:27 pm
Subject: NNS Teams Spearhead Food Drive; Invite Fans To Donate

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NASCAR Nationwide Series Teams Lead Thanksgiving Food Drive;

Fans Can Donate At Race Shops And At Autograph Session At PIR

DAYTONA BEACH, Fla. � The NASCAR Nationwide Series PR Rep Task Force has organized a non-perishable Thanksgiving Food Drive among series teams to assist needy families in the Lexington, N.C., area.

All proceeds will benefit the West Davidson Food Pantry. NASCAR Nationwide Series drivers, including Michael Annett and Ricky Stenhouse Jr., will deliver the donations to the Food Pantry on Wednesday, Nov. 18 ...

MORE HERE: http://domania.us/bigdog333us/NovemberPR/nns_food_drive111309.html

#33090

From: "Nell Hooker" <homefreehighrollerblue@...>
Date: Fri Nov 13, 2009 1:10 pm
Subject: Don't Miss Out on the Susan G. Komen Auction Items

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#33089

From: Todd Priest <tampabbay99@...>
Date: Fri Nov 13, 2009 12:40 pm
Subject: Martin Named Person of the Year

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Mark Martin is the NASCAR Illustrated Person of the Year presented by Old Spice for 2009. Martin will officially accept the award in a prerace ceremony at the Ford 400 Sprint Cup Series race at Homestead-Miami Speedway on Nov. 22. NASCAR Illustrated chose to honor the 50-year-old Hendrick Motorsports driver because of his exceptional talent and extraordinary class. His return to a full schedule in 2009 underscored his ability and gave fans another chance to appreciate his humility and graciousness.

#33088

From: Todd Priest <tampabbay99@...>
Date: Fri Nov 13, 2009 12:39 pm
Subject: Staten Island Land To Be Sold

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International Speedway Corp., which abandoned its plan to build a race track on a 676-acre parcel in Staten Island, N.Y., in 2006, has reached a conditional agreement to sell the land to KB Marine Holdings, ISC announced Thursday in a news release. ISC bought the property for $114 million in 2004. The agreement announced Thursday is for $80 million and is scheduled to close Feb. 25. KB Marine has the opportunity to receive a $5 million credit to the sales price if the closing date occurs on or before Dec. 31.

#33087

From: Todd Priest <tampabbay99@...>
Date: Fri Nov 13, 2009 12:37 pm
Subject: Kyle Busch would consider Nationwide title his biggest achievement in NASCAR

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Kyle Busch admits that winning a NASCAR Nationwide Series title isn’t the same as winning a Sprint Cup Series crown, nor would it entirely atone for him missing this year’s Chase For The Sprint Cup.

But as the Las Vegas native closes in on his first NASCAR championship, he unhesitatingly asserts that a Nationwide title would shoot to the top of his list of motorsports accomplishments, which include 16 Cup wins.

“It would be the biggest one I have right now,” Busch says. “The only other championship that I can say I have is Legends cars back at my home track in Vegas. I missed too many races to win a Late-Model championship that year, and so [a Nationwide title] would be pretty big.”

Busch, who enters Saturday’s Able Body Labor 200 at Phoenix International Raceway 247 points ahead of second-place Carl Edwards and another 20 up on Brad Keselowski, can clinch the championship a week early by leaving Phoenix with a 195-point lead.

If Busch finishes at least seventh with no laps led, ninth with at least one lap led or 10th with the most laps led, he’ll seal the championship no matter how Edwards performs.

To clinch in the season finale at Homestead-Miami Speedway, Busch just needs an average finish of 30th over the last two races, a 32nd-place finish and a lap led in each event or a 33rd-place finish and the most laps led in each event.

Busch was docked 25 driver points Wednesday for a rules infraction by his No. 18 Joe Gibbs Racing team last weekend at Texas Motor Speedway, leaving him a little smaller cushion heading into the last two races, but it would still take a mini-miracle for him to lose the championship.

“We sat down before [the season opener at] Daytona, and our ultimate goal was to win a championship,” says crew chief Jason Ratcliff, who called the shots for Busch for most of his part-time schedule in 2008. “So you had to approach the whole season differently than what you did last year. Last year didn’t matter. Either we wanted to finish first or … second didn’t matter. This year, it does. I mean, we’ve got enough of ’em. So you approach it differently.

“All of these guys, they’ve just done a tremendous job. There have been some times, even for this race team, that you walk in Monday morning and wonder, ‘Man, who just shot your dog?’”

While Busch has enjoyed the kind of Nationwide campaign that most of his competitors would envy, he hasn’t enjoyed finishing second so often. As far as he’s concerned, his series-high eight victories have been somewhat tainted by the fact that he has finished second a whopping 11 times.

“I’ve wished that we would have been further ahead than where we are right now,” Busch says of the points standings. “I would have liked to have wrapped the championship up a few weeks earlier, but we are where we are. Given the 11 second-place finishes, it’s tough, and it’s frustrating when you get those, but you know it’s a good points day. You know after you recognize it on the plane ride home … it was a good day, but you’re still mad you didn’t get to take the trophy home.”

According to JGR team President J.D. Gibbs, the 24-year-old Busch has done a better job of finding the positives on days when he finishes well but doesn’t go to victory lane.

“I think what you learn by taking those is you learn how to win a championship,” Gibbs said. “On the Cup side, take the fifths, the 10ths, the 12ths and just take them and move on. I think he’s really done a good job of not being happy about seconds [in Nationwide] but being willing to take them for the bigger goal, if that makes sense.”

Busch hasn’t run a full slate in NASCAR’s No. 2 series since finishing second in his rookie season of 2004. He plans to enter a number of Nationwide races next year but probably not the entire schedule.

Busch believes his success has validated his decision to run all 35 races in 2009 after a 30-race campaign in 2008. And he also has no regrets about his partial schedule for Billy Ballew Racing in the Camping World Truck Series.

Busch has seven wins in 13 Truck starts and still has a shot at helping team owner Billy Ballew pick of the 2009 owners championship.

Such magical runs in the Nationwide and Truck series have served as somewhat of a consolation prize for Busch after missing the Chase in a season when he was expected to seriously contend for the Cup title.

“If you can win a Nationwide championship and the owners championship for Ballew and miss out on the Chase, I would feel like that’s a successful year,” he says. “People might question where my focus is – it’s supposed to be on the Cup side – but to be honest with you, we didn’t have the cars capable enough of getting ourselves into the Chase. That’s why we missed the Chase. It’s not due to a lack of focus or lack of effort by the team or me or anybody else involved. It’s just situationally, it didn’t work out.”

Ratcliff says that the up-and-down nature of Busch’s Cup season probably put a little extra pressure on the Nationwide team to help their driver run well.

“We hoped that we would put good enough cars on the race track that he could go out there and not be concerned with what’s happening over there [in Cup], good or bad,” he says. “Just be able to come over here and have a good time, win some races, shoot for this championship, and it would be kind of a different environment for him. And I think we’ve done that.”

Busch takes even more pride in his Nationwide season knowing that his main competition has come from fellow full-time Cup drivers. While Edwards is the only other full-time Cup driver running the whole Nationwide schedule, multiple Cup drivers and teams have entered most of the races.

So you might say that Busch subscribes to the theory that if you can’t beat them on Sundays, you might as well try to on Saturdays. And he has – often.

“It makes it better when you’ve got the Cup guys that come over to race with you on the Nationwide tour,” he says. “If it was just me racing against the rest of the [Nationwide] guys, then it would look kind of silly. … But we still have guys like Jeff Burton, Clint Bowyer - I can’t even name them all - Greg Biffle, Matt Kenseth, you know them.

“Since all those guys come over and race with us. That’s what makes it fun because you go out there and you can beat those guys, and you know they’re at Roush [Fenway Racing], [Richard Childress Racing}, who dominated this thing a few years ago, [and] are in good cars. You know that you’re not an idiot, and you know you can drive. At least it makes it a little easier when you look at things.”

#33086

From: Todd Priest <tampabbay99@...>
Date: Fri Nov 13, 2009 12:35 pm
Subject: ARCA Adds New Road Course

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ARCA has added a second road course race to its 2010 national touring series schedule, officials announced today. The ARCA Racing Series presented by RE/MAX will compete at Palm Beach International Raceway, a 2.034-mile, 11-turn road course in Jupiter, Fla. on Saturday, February 27, 2010.

"We've been working with officials at Palm Beach Int'l Raceway for well over a year, and today's announcement has been highly anticipated by everyone at ARCA," said ARCA President Ron Drager. "The PBIR venue and market represents a key addition to the 2010 schedule and we certainly look forward to working with Jason Rittenberry, Ron Dixon, Emily Brown and everyone at PBIR. We expect a large number of our teams to visit the facility based on common travel over the next couple months with the Performance Racing Industry trade show in Orlando Dec. 10-12, the ARCA sanctioned open test at Daytona Int'l Speedway Dec. 18-20, and the Lucas Oil Slick Mist 200 race at Daytona Feb. 6."

PBIR joins the previously announced August 15 race date at New Jersey Motorsports Park as one of two road course venues on the 2010 schedule. Long recognized as the most versatile sanction in m

otorsports, ARCA has toured more than 200 racetracks in the U.S. and Canada since its inception in 1953. The 2010 schedule, which is expected to be released in full in the coming days, features a diverse combination of road courses, superspeedways and short tracks on both paved and dirt surfaces.

Boasting an 11-turn, 2.034-mile design and FIA Grade II certified, PBIR's state-of-the-art road course features some of the fastest and most challenging corners, elevation changes and straightaways offered by any track in North America and is currently approved as an IndyCar testing facility. Technologically superior, the road course showcases a seamless table-top smooth finish, full lighting, S.A.V.E. soft barriers and run-off areas.

"We are excited to host the ARCA Series on the road course in 2010," stated Jason Rittenberry, CEO and President of Palm Beach International Raceway. "It is a milestone for PBIR since this event will be the first-ever stock car race at the facility. We look forward to a long-term relationship with ARCA, their staff and the competitors in the series."

The February 27, 2010 ARCA race date marks the sanction's inaugural appearance at PBIR and the 13th time that the nationally touring stock car series has contested a road course race. Most recently, ARCA raced on New Jersey Motorsports Park's 2.3-mile Thunderbolt Course in 2008 and 2009, with a third ARCA race planned at NJMP in 2010. ARCA made its road course racing debut in 1958 at the now defunct Meadowdale Raceway in Carpentersville, Illinois.

The list of former ARCA road course winners is impressive, including Fred Lorenzen (Meadowdale 1958), Nelson Stacy (Meadowdale 1960), Curtis Turner (Virginia Int'l Raceway 1962), Elmer Musgrave (Meadowdale 1964), Jack Bowsher (Mid Ohio Sports Car Course 1965), Bob Schacht (St. Louis Int'l Raceway 1986), Ken Schrader (Heartland Park Topeka 1991), Darrell Waltrip (Heartland Park Topeka 1992), Scott Lagasse, Sr. (Streets of Des Moines 1994), John Finger (Watkins Glen Int'l 2001), Justin Allgaier (New Jersey Motorsports Park 2008) and Patrick Long (New Jersey Motorsports Park 2009).

Tickets to the February 27 ARCA Racing Series presented by RE/MAX race at Palm Beach Int'l Raceway are available at http://www.racepbir.com.

The 2010 ARCA Racing Series presented by RE/MAX kicks off at Daytona Int'l Speedway on Saturday, February 6 with the 47th running of the Lucas Oil Slick Mist 200. The entire 2010 ARCA Racing Series presented by RE/MAX schedule will be released on arcaracing.com in the coming days.

#33085

From: Todd Priest <tampabbay99@...>
Date: Fri Nov 13, 2009 12:34 pm
Subject: ARCA tests in texas

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The process of bringing ARCA Racing to Fort Worth's Texas Motor Speedway is in full swing, as exhibited by a private Hoosier Tire Test at the 1

.5-mile Speedway Motorsports, Inc.-owned facility on Thursday.

Led by Hoosier Tire Engineers and ARCA Officials, veteran team Venturini Motorsports and driver Steve Arpin tested various Hoosier Tire Codes at Texas Motor Speedway on Thursday in preparation for the April 16, 2010 ARCA Racing Series presented by RE/MAX race date at the track. The full day test marked the first official ARCA-sanctioned racing activity at the track in more than 11 years.

"My first impression? Texas Motor Speedway is an awesome, incredible, wicked track," said Arpin. "It's a lot of fun to race on this track. It's fast but real comfortable to drive on so I think we are going to have an awesome race here. There are a few good, fast lines around here that should make for an exciting race."
Arpin concluded his rookie season of ARCA competition in 2009 with four top-5 and 11 top-10 finishes. Season highlights included a career-best fourth-place finish at Pocono Raceway in August and fifth-place finishes at Mansfield Motorsports Par

k on June 20, the Illinois State Fairgrounds on August 23 and Salem Speedway on September 19. While Arpin was the first fulltime series competitor to make laps at Texas in an ARCA RE/MAX Series stock car in anticipation for 2010, additional series competitors will have the opportunity to log laps at the track in the coming months via an ARCA Open Test prior to the April 16, 2010 race date.

"The Venturinis and Steve Arpin are doing a great job of providing feedback," said Doug Barnes, ARCA track services manager for Hoosier, the official tire supplier of ARCA since 1995. "We're focusing on short runs and long runs with various tire codes to determine what will be the right combination under race conditions. This track is very fast and has abrupt changes so it's challenging to come out with the right combination."

When the ARCA Racing Series presented by RE/MAX makes its April 16, 2010 appearance to Texas Motor Speedway it will mark just the second time that the versatile touring series has competed at the track and the first race date at the track since a companion event with the IndyCar Series on September 19, 1998. The 167-lap/250-mile 1998 race was won by Winder, Georgia's Mark Gibson, who has since gone on to become a winning car owner in ARCA. The ARCA pole sitter at Texas in 1998 was Frank Kimmel (31.143 seconds/173.393 mph) who went on to win the ARCA Driving Championship in 1998-his first of nine series titles.

The ARCA Racing Series presented by RE/MAX joins both the NASCAR Sprint Cup Series and the NASCAR Nationwide Series for the Samsung 500 race weekend at Texas Motor Speedway on April 15-18, 2010. The week opens on Thursday, April 15, with practice and qualifying for the NASCAR Nationwide Series and the ARCA Racing Series presented by RE/MAX. The NASCAR Sprint Cup Series will practice and qualify on Friday, April 16, followed by the ARCA Racing Series presented by RE/MAX race. A final NASCAR Sprint Cup Series practice and the NASCAR Nationwide Series race is on Saturday, April 17. The race week culminates Sunday, April 18, with the 14th edition of the Samsung 500 NASCAR Sprint Cup Series race.

#33084

From: Todd Priest <tampabbay99@...>
Date: Fri Nov 13, 2009 12:18 pm
Subject: Re: Sprint Cup Crown Remains Jimmie Johnson's to Lose

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Boy was that ever. That was as happy as I have been watching a race all year.

--- On Fri, 11/13/09, kaboom10 <kaboom10@...> wrote:

From: kaboom10 <kaboom10@...>
Subject: Re: [NoBarNascar] Sprint Cup Crown Remains Jimmie Johnson's to Lose
To: NoBarNascar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, November 13, 2009, 7:11 AM

best part of the race.

----- Original Message -----

From: Todd Priest

To: NobarNascar ; nascartalk@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 7:04 AM

Subject: [NoBarNascar] Sprint Cup Crown Remains Jimmie Johnson's to Lose

The chaos of Lap 3 last Sunday at Texas Motor Speedway certainly tossed the NASCAR world into a frenzy.

When the dust settled, version one of the No. 48 Texas Chevrolet became version two and both Mark Martin and Jeff Gordon failed to add the word "clutch" to their 2009 resumes, one point about NASCAR's most dominant driver became exceedingly clear.

Jimmie Johnson, point being, is still the de facto guy to beat for the 2009 Sprint Cup championship -- and it's going to take plenty more Texas-like highly unlikely events to keep three-time from becoming four-time.

Johnson, for the the under the rock crowd, was tapped by an out-of-control Sam Hornish Jr. off of turn two at Texas in a lap 3 incident. Johnson's car sidestepped into a glancing shot off the outside wall before spinning back across the track and slamming the inside wall.

An hour and eight minutes later, Johnson was back on track with a rebuilt race car that struggled around the track but did finish. Johnson earned a 38th-place finish and just 49 points towards his championship effort.

Mark Martin, second in points before Texas, was in the most prime of positions to capitalize but couldn't ever get over the the hump during the 500-miler. Martin's team, though, played the fuel mileage finish well and came across the start/finish line for a fourth-place finish and collected 160 points.

It was enough to gain 110 points on Johnson, but a win would have meant so much more.

Jeff Gordon, the leader at that point in the race of Johnson's crash, could have taken a huge pre-Texas deficit of 192 and sliced into a 46-point Johnson lead had he stayed out front and earned a sweep of the Sprint Cup trips to Texas in 2009. Instead, he faltered and wound up 13th, trailing Johnson by 112 points with two races left.

The 70-point jump was Gordon's biggest gain on Johnson in the 2009 Chase for the Sprint Cup, but it wasn't near enough to put him back in serious contention for a fifth Sprint Cup championship.

Serious contention, of course, doesn't factor in Johnson hitting any walls in the final two races or otherwise ending up stopped in the garage area long before the race is over. Why? Because it just doesn't happen.

If you want to find a race in Chase that Johnson finished worse than what he did Sunday, you'll look back to the first race of the 2006 Chase. Johnson finished 39th at New Hampshire Motor Speedway, but managed to still win his first Cup title.

Since then and until Texas, Johnson's worst finishes have been a 24th at Talladega in '06, two 15th-place finishes at Texas and Homestead last season and three 14th-place finishes with two in 2007 at Dover and Charlotte and the other at Kansas in 2006. He's also got a13th-place finish at Dover in 2006.

Aside from those and Sunday's race at Texas, Johnson has scored a 29 top-10s in 38 Chase races.

Then, there's the fact that Johnson is heading to a track that his No. 48 team has excelled at. Phoenix International Raceway has hosted a Jimmie Johnson victory lane celebration three times in his career and he's picked up 7 top-5s and 10 top-10s at the Arizona 1-miler.

Johnson's worst outings at Phoenix have been a pair of 15th-place finishes in 2002 and 2005. In the Chase races that have seen him go on to be champion, though, Johnson has averaged a gaudy finish of 1.3 with two wins and a second-place finish.

That can't be heartening for Martin and Gordon.

In terms of points, Johnson's critical number of the next two weeks is 318.

Mark Martin, if he won the next two races and lead the most laps, would earn 390 points. If Johnson earns the 318, there's nothing Martin could do to prevent the championship. Going to third in points with Jeff Gordon (and pending Martin has a mediocre run in the next two weeks) Johnson needs to score just 278 points to overcome a Gordon domination of the final two races.

The magic finishing position number for Johnson is 4th pending two Martin wins and 8th pending two Gordon wins.

As it turns out, Johnson's finish at Texas might have been comparable to watching an underdog football team run back the opening kickoff of the second half in a marginally close game with a top-ranked squad. Sure, the brief hope of an upset crosses everyone's minds. All too often, though, the expected becomes the reality -- with or without SEC football officials patrolling the sidelines.

Jimmie Johnson showed he's just as vulnerable to misfortune as any other driver in the field at Texas, but just as good, dominant football teams do -- he and the rest of the No. 48 team are highly, highly unlikely to let the losses keep mounting

#33083

From: "kaboom10" <kaboom10@...>
Date: Fri Nov 13, 2009 12:11 pm
Subject: Re: Sprint Cup Crown Remains Jimmie Johnson's to Lose

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best part of the race.

----- Original Message -----

From: Todd Priest

To: NobarNascar ; nascartalk@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 7:04 AM

Subject: [NoBarNascar] Sprint Cup Crown Remains Jimmie Johnson's to Lose

The chaos of Lap 3 last Sunday at Texas Motor Speedway certainly tossed the NASCAR world into a frenzy.

When the dust settled, version one of the No. 48 Texas Chevrolet became version two and both Mark Martin and Jeff Gordon failed to add the word "clutch" to their 2009 resumes, one point about NASCAR's most dominant driver became exceedingly clear.

Jimmie Johnson, point being, is still the de facto guy to beat for the 2009 Sprint Cup championship -- and it's going to take plenty more Texas-like highly unlikely events to keep three-time from becoming four-time.

Johnson, for the the under the rock crowd, was tapped by an out-of-control Sam Hornish Jr. off of turn two at Texas in a lap 3 incident. Johnson's car sidestepped into a glancing shot off the outside wall before spinning back across the track and slamming the inside wall.

An hour and eight minutes later, Johnson was back on track with a rebuilt race car that struggled around the track but did finish. Johnson earned a 38th-place finish and just 49 points towards his championship effort.

Mark Martin, second in points before Texas, was in the most prime of positions to capitalize but couldn't ever get over the the hump during the 500-miler. Martin's team, though, played the fuel mileage finish well and came across the start/finish line for a fourth-place finish and collected 160 points.

It was enough to gain 110 points on Johnson, but a win would have meant so much more.

Jeff Gordon, the leader at that point in the race of Johnson's crash, could have taken a huge pre-Texas deficit of 192 and sliced into a 46-point Johnson lead had he stayed out front and earned a sweep of the Sprint Cup trips to Texas in 2009. Instead, he faltered and wound up 13th, trailing Johnson by 112 points with two races left.

The 70-point jump was Gordon's biggest gain on Johnson in the 2009 Chase for the Sprint Cup, but it wasn't near enough to put him back in serious contention for a fifth Sprint Cup championship.

Serious contention, of course, doesn't factor in Johnson hitting any walls in the final two races or otherwise ending up stopped in the garage area long before the race is over. Why? Because it just doesn't happen.

If you want to find a race in Chase that Johnson finished worse than what he did Sunday, you'll look back to the first race of the 2006 Chase. Johnson finished 39th at New Hampshire Motor Speedway, but managed to still win his first Cup title.

Since then and until Texas, Johnson's worst finishes have been a 24th at Talladega in '06, two 15th-place finishes at Texas and Homestead last season and three 14th-place finishes with two in 2007 at Dover and Charlotte and the other at Kansas in 2006. He's also got a13th-place finish at Dover in 2006.

Aside from those and Sunday's race at Texas, Johnson has scored a 29 top-10s in 38 Chase races.

Then, there's the fact that Johnson is heading to a track that his No. 48 team has excelled at. Phoenix International Raceway has hosted a Jimmie Johnson victory lane celebration three times in his career and he's picked up 7 top-5s and 10 top-10s at the Arizona 1-miler.

Johnson's worst outings at Phoenix have been a pair of 15th-place finishes in 2002 and 2005. In the Chase races that have seen him go on to be champion, though, Johnson has averaged a gaudy finish of 1.3 with two wins and a second-place finish.

That can't be heartening for Martin and Gordon.

In terms of points, Johnson's critical number of the next two weeks is 318.

Mark Martin, if he won the next two races and lead the most laps, would earn 390 points. If Johnson earns the 318, there's nothing Martin could do to prevent the championship. Going to third in points with Jeff Gordon (and pending Martin has a mediocre run in the next two weeks) Johnson needs to score just 278 points to overcome a Gordon domination of the final two races.

The magic finishing position number for Johnson is 4th pending two Martin wins and 8th pending two Gordon wins.

As it turns out, Johnson's finish at Texas might have been comparable to watching an underdog football team run back the opening kickoff of the second half in a marginally close game with a top-ranked squad. Sure, the brief hope of an upset crosses everyone's minds. All too often, though, the expected becomes the reality -- with or without SEC football officials patrolling the sidelines.

Jimmie Johnson showed he's just as vulnerable to misfortune as any other driver in the field at Texas, but just as good, dominant football teams do -- he and the rest of the No. 48 team are highly, highly unlikely to let the losses keep mounting

#33082

From: Todd Priest <tampabbay99@...>
Date: Fri Nov 13, 2009 12:04 pm
Subject: Sprint Cup Crown Remains Jimmie Johnson's to Lose

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The chaos of Lap 3 last Sunday at Texas Motor Speedway certainly tossed the NASCAR world into a frenzy.

When the dust settled, version one of the No. 48 Texas Chevrolet became version two and both Mark Martin and Jeff Gordon failed to add the word "clutch" to their 2009 resumes, one point about NASCAR's most dominant driver became exceedingly clear.

Jimmie Johnson, point being, is still the de facto guy to beat for the 2009 Sprint Cup championship -- and it's going to take plenty more Texas-like highly unlikely events to keep three-time from becoming four-time.

Johnson, for the the under the rock crowd, was tapped by an out-of-control Sam Hornish Jr. off of turn two at Texas in a lap 3 incident. Johnson's car sidestepped into a glancing shot off the outside wall before spinning back across the track and slamming the inside wall.

An hour and eight minutes later, Johnson was back on track with a rebuilt race car that struggled around the track but did finish. Johnson earned a 38th-place finish and just 49 points towards his championship effort.

Mark Martin, second in points before Texas, was in the most prime of positions to capitalize but couldn't ever get over the the hump during the 500-miler. Martin's team, though, played the fuel mileage finish well and came across the start/finish line for a fourth-place finish and collected 160 points.

It was enough to gain 110 points on Johnson, but a win would have meant so much more.

Jeff Gordon, the leader at that point in the race of Johnson's crash, could have taken a huge pre-Texas deficit of 192 and sliced into a 46-point Johnson lead had he stayed out front and earned a sweep of the Sprint Cup trips to Texas in 2009. Instead, he faltered and wound up 13th, trailing Johnson by 112 points with two races left.

The 70-point jump was Gordon's biggest gain on Johnson in the 2009 Chase for the Sprint Cup, but it wasn't near enough to put him back in serious contention for a fifth Sprint Cup championship.

Serious contention, of course, doesn't factor in Johnson hitting any walls in the final two races or otherwise ending up stopped in the garage area long before the race is over. Why? Because it just doesn't happen.

If you want to find a race in Chase that Johnson finished worse than what he did Sunday, you'll look back to the first race of the 2006 Chase. Johnson finished 39th at New Hampshire Motor Speedway, but managed to still win his first Cup title.

Since then and until Texas, Johnson's worst finishes have been a 24th at Talladega in '06, two 15th-place finishes at Texas and Homestead last season and three 14th-place finishes with two in 2007 at Dover and Charlotte and the other at Kansas in 2006. He's also got a13th-place finish at Dover in 2006.

Aside from those and Sunday's race at Texas, Johnson has scored a 29 top-10s in 38 Chase races.

Then, there's the fact that Johnson is heading to a track that his No. 48 team has excelled at. Phoenix International Raceway has hosted a Jimmie Johnson victory lane celebration three times in his career and he's picked up 7 top-5s and 10 top-10s at the Arizona 1-miler.

Johnson's worst outings at Phoenix have been a pair of 15th-place finishes in 2002 and 2005. In the Chase races that have seen him go on to be champion, though, Johnson has averaged a gaudy finish of 1.3 with two wins and a second-place finish.

That can't be heartening for Martin and Gordon.

In terms of points, Johnson's critical number of the next two weeks is 318.

Mark Martin, if he won the next two races and lead the most laps, would earn 390 points. If Johnson earns the 318, there's nothing Martin could do to prevent the championship. Going to third in points with Jeff Gordon (and pending Martin has a mediocre run in the next two weeks) Johnson needs to score just 278 points to overcome a Gordon domination of the final two races.

The magic finishing position number for Johnson is 4th pending two Martin wins and 8th pending two Gordon wins.

As it turns out, Johnson's finish at Texas might have been comparable to watching an underdog football team run back the opening kickoff of the second half in a marginally close game with a top-ranked squad. Sure, the brief hope of an upset crosses everyone's minds. All too often, though, the expected becomes the reality -- with or without SEC football officials patrolling the sidelines.

Jimmie Johnson showed he's just as vulnerable to misfortune as any other driver in the field at Texas, but just as good, dominant football teams do -- he and the rest of the No. 48 team are highly, highly unlikely to let the losses keep mounting

#33081

From: Todd Priest <tampabbay99@...>
Date: Fri Nov 13, 2009 12:05 pm
Subject: Why is Toyota out of F1, but still in NASCAR? Because they can win.

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Why is Toyota out of F1, but still in NASCAR? Because they can win.

Anyone who got excited when they heard Toyota was pulling out of Formula 1, thinking maybe a NASCAR exit was next to come, was quickly disappointed.

Toyota Racing Development president Lee White said this week that the Japanese carmaker's decision to get out of Formula 1, a series where it just hasn’t been able to achieve much success, "has no bearing on its NASCAR programme. It (the decision) should have no effect whatsoever on our NASCAR programme, our NASCAR plans and our NASCAR future. We remain completely committed to NASCAR and NASCAR is completely committed to us.”

Why stay in one and not the other? That’s easy: Success.

Toyota has done what a lot of anti-Toyota NASCAR fans feared when it was announced they were coming to NASCAR. They’ve won on all levels.

Toyota has aligned itself with solid teams like Joe Gibbs Racing and Michael Waltrip Racing, put in the money needed to develop its cars, and is being rewarded with solid finishes.

In the Truck series, they have won the manufacturers’ title for the past four seasons and run up front each week. They will claim the Nationwide title this year with Kyle Busch, and the Joe Gibbs Toyotas pretty much own that series on a weekly basis, often battling between each other for the win.
In Cup, they have yet to win a title, but have an impressive number of wins between the Gibbs, MWR and Red Bull teams.

Considering how it all started, the success is amazing. Michael Waltrip’s Toyota was busted for the infamous jet fuel violation, and the Toyota teams struggled to even qualify for many races. Slowly though, things improved, and now they couldn’t be happier with their Cup effort. Solid drivers like Kyle Busch, Joey Logano, Brian Vickers, David Reutimann and Denny Hamlin are among their employees who can bring them wins each weekend.

Sure, Toyota drivers are not challenging Jimmie Johnson for the championship, but neither are any Ford or Dodge drivers. The only drivers close to Jimmie are his Hendrick teammates.

So while Toyota never could never reach the standards set by McLaren and Ferrari in the world of Formula 1, they are on a road to competing for NASCAR titles at the CUp level.

That’s why they’re they’re still in NASCAR, and will not return to Formula 1.

#33080

From: Todd Priest <tampabbay99@...>
Date: Fri Nov 13, 2009 12:00 pm
Subject: Danica Hype A Symbol Of Where It's At Today

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With Danica Patrick likely to race in the Nationwide Series with JR Motorsports next season, NASCAR can partially exhale knowing that they can declare their diversity efforts to finally be bearing some fruit. Erin Crocker just wasn’t going to get it done there.

But with that selection comes a simple question: Why her?

At face value, Patrick is a better driver than most give her credit for. The surface comparisons to Anna Kournikova — hot female athlete with marginal ability — are not without merit, but they aren’t quite accurate. Danica finished fifth in the IRL standings this year. Each season, she has done better than in the previous one.

So it isn’t so much that she’s overrated as a race car driver. She isn’t A.J. Foyt… but she doesn’t stink at it, either.

That said, there is no heavy-breathing desire on any NASCAR team’s part to pursue Tony Kanaan, Dan Wheldon, Ryan Briscoe, or Helio Castroneves, all of whom are far more accomplished than Patrick in the IRL. Kanaan is Patrick’s teammate at Andretti-Green Racing, so presumably they race in close to equal equipment. He’s won six races to Danica’s one in the last three seasons. Dario Franchitti, whose foray into NASCAR was brief and unmarked by achievement, won a championship with Andretti-Green in 2007.

Open-wheel drivers far better than Patrick have tried NASCAR and mostly failed. Franchitti is the best example. Granted, none of the recent open-wheel entrants into NASCAR drove for Hendrick Motorsports or for one of its tentacles. But Sam Hornish, Jr. and Scott Speed thus far have not even challenged to be the top performers on their own teams, a level of success that Franchitti also failed to reach during his stint in NASCAR. Juan Pablo Montoya is the only exception, and it took him a couple of years to start running well with the big boys. Based on history, Patrick’s prospects would look bleak in NASCAR.

So there’s a fair conclusion to draw from this. NASCAR wants Danica, teams want Danica, and sponsors want Danica — not because she’s the best Indy Car racer out there, not because she’s female even, but because she looks great in a swimsuit.

In a perfect world, there would be minority and female drivers who fought their way into the top series of NASCAR by becoming worthy race car drivers on their own, not because NASCAR selected them to be in a special training program or because they sold Sports Illustrated swimsuit specials. Danica doesn’t seem to have a problem being better known for her curves than for how she navigates them, but somehow I don’t think female drivers trying to work their way through the auto racing ranks would like the idea that they can’t have any body fat or stringy hair if they want to make it in NASCAR.

You would think sports would be different from Hollywood in that regard. In reality, it isn’t. A team needs sponsorship to race, and drivers like Danica Patrick and Dale Earnhardt, Jr. unquestionably bring it. Kyle Busch may be a better race car driver than either of them, but there isn’t any question whom you’d rather have on your team from a strictly business standpoint. Junior and Danica are moneymaking machines. Of course teams are going to pursue them, no matter what their results on the track.

So reality being what it is, what’s bothersome is that fields are featuring more and more drivers who are there not because of their skills in piloting a race car but because of their skills in bringing along a sponsor. Paul Menard is a better driver than his results have been showing, but he isn’t as good as some of the unknowns that are struggling to get full-time rides in the Nationwide Series. Casey Mears is a super nice guy, but that someone with his career numbers is continually offered rides with high-profile teams is baffling.

The Nationwide Series itself is suffering from this affliction. In the end, the funding dictates who races on the track, so Nationwide becomes Cup Lite, with sponsors almost as willing to take a chance on an unknown as a big market radio station is willing to play a song that we haven’t already heard two billion times. (Honestly, if I have to hear “Born To Be Wild” one more time…) Full-time Cup drivers run away with minor league championships while aspiring talents languish unseen, unfunded, and unnoticed in inferior equipment.

It’s a nice little Catch-22 — you need to be proven to get a sponsor, but you need to get a sponsor to have a chance to prove yourself. Sometimes, even that isn’t good enough. Earlier this year, I wrote an article about Scott Wimmer and how he is struggling to even keep a Nationwide ride despite the fact that he was holding his own with the Cup drivers when he had the equipment. You can bet Danica will never have any such difficulty, though, no matter how many times she finishes 30th.

At least the situation improved slightly this year, to the point where we’re seeing some promising young talent in the Nationwide Series for the first time in awhile… drivers like Kelly Bires and Justin Allgaier are starting to get some respect out there. But JR Motorsports would take that progress a step back putting Danica in the No. 5. There are plenty of qualified stock car drivers who have paid their dues and are worthy of a competitive ride.

Now don’t get me wrong here. Being sponsor-friendly, which means either winning a lot or being non-controversial (or both, in the case of drivers like Jimmie Johnson), needs to be part of the package for a driver to succeed in racing — but should it be this large a part of it?

Patrick will get a quality ride in the Nationwide Series thanks to her SI swimsuit spread, but in the end she’s going to have to perform to hold fans’ interest. The racetrack is still the arena where one is measured and rewarded solely on ability (except for when 11 drivers have their points upgraded to match the leader) — not for bouncy hair, nice eyes, or smooth skin. At least for now.

One wonders if NASCAR will make insidious rule changes in an effort to help another marketable driver who will probably not succeed right away. But even if they don’t, the pursuit of Danica demonstrates that it’s more about the show than the racing anymore, anyway. Why not give her a hand up? Maybe have a “fan vote” to determine the polesitter each Saturday. Sort of the same principle, isn’t it?

The bottom line is another open-wheel star is coming to NASCAR without working through the ranks, following basically the same path that many better drivers have — ultimately to mediocrity. And that means the product on the track is being dictated by people who, in fact, know very little about auto racing — except that Danica Patrick unzipping herself is hot.

#33079

From: "kaboom10" <kaboom10@...>
Date: Fri Nov 13, 2009 11:35 am
Subject: Re: Revisiting Dale Earnhardt Jr's First Victory Lane

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----- Original Message -----

From: Nell Hooker

To: NoBarNascar@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 3:29 PM

Subject: Re: [NoBarNascar] Revisiting Dale Earnhardt Jr's First Victory Lane

No Scott, you did not insult me or call me names.  I just do not like the idea of a woman being in Nascar at this place and time. I maybe wrong, and will have to eat my words. I was brought up to think a woman and man had their place in the world. Men were suppose to make a living, and the woman stayed home and took care of the home, and children, and that is why I said, because I was brought up in the

old-fashioned way.  At this time men were suppose to be stronger than women, and smarter than a women. Most all of the girls I graduated with got married, and had a family. None went to college!  I went to college, when I was 45, and received my degree, which I thought I had accomplished the world because of my age. I hope this will help you in some way of why I do not like a woman in Nascar. Most of you in this group are a lot younger than I am, so you were brought up much different than I was.  I have three granddaughters, and I hope than become whatever they would like to become, but I would not like for them to be in Nascar. Nascar is a dangerous sport!!  One wants to be a Marine biologist, one wants to be Doctor, and the other one wants to be a Nurse. I don't like the idea of them being in danger, and getting hurt.

Ne;;

From: SCOTT HUMM <westshore82@verizon.net>
To: NoBarNascar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, November 11, 2009 5:09:44 PM
Subject: Re: [NoBarNascar] Revisiting Dale Earnhardt Jr's First Victory Lane

I don't think that I insulted you, calle you any name or made any derogitory comment towards you. All I asked for was for you to explain WHY women do not belong in Nascar. Up until now, you still have not made any points. To say they are bitchey and whiney just described 99% of the drivers in nascar who at this point are male. So what you are telling me with this comment is that they are equal to the male counterparts. If that is indeed the case, then there is no reason why they can't race. If you think otherwise, that is fine. Just back up your opinion with something other than what describes the drivers at this point in time.

From: Nell Hooker <homefreehighrollerblue@yahoo.com>
To: NoBarNascar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, November 11, 2009 12:05:35 PM
Subject: Re: [NoBarNascar] Revisiting Dale Earnhardt Jr's First Victory Lane

I have just as many emails as you do! The one hundred that was posted included everyone else's insults to me. I was responding to all of your insults!

-------Original Message----- --

From: Todd Priest

Date: 11/11/2009 5:16:04 AM

To: NoBarNascar@ yahoogroups. com

Subject: Re: [NoBarNascar] Revisiting Dale Earnhardt Jr's First Victory Lane

I do Nell. Every single one. Even the one hundred that you post.

--- On Tue, 11/10/09, Nell Hooker <homefreehighrollerb lue@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: Nell Hooker <homefreehighrollerb lue@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [NoBarNascar] Revisiting Dale Earnhardt Jr's First Victory Lane
To: NoBarNascar@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Tuesday, November 10, 2009, 8:56 PM

You need to read your email Todd!!!!

-------Original Message----- --

From: Todd Priest

Date: 11/10/2009 6:58:19 PM

To: NoBarNascar@ yahoogroups. com

Subject: Re: [NoBarNascar] Revisiting Dale Earnhardt Jr's First Victory Lane

Who are you talking about? Oh, pot, meet kettle......

--- On Tue, 11/10/09, Nell Hooker <homefreehighrollerb lue@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: Nell Hooker <homefreehighrollerb lue@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [NoBarNascar] Revisiting Dale Earnhardt Jr's First Victory Lane
To: NoBarNascar@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Tuesday, November 10, 2009, 6:27 PM

I know you cannot help yourself, because you are just like your twin in the other groups. All you and Punkin know how to do is start name calling, and I for one am sick of it. You both think you know more than anyone else. I got news for you, you are not any smarter than anyone else. You just plain rude and stupid yourself. You both need to get married, you would make a perfect match. I tell you what from the pictures I have seen of her, she looks like she is ready to get on her broom and fly! Join her please!!!   Cannot help myself!!!!!

From: holysmoke2010 <smokem1439@gmail. com>
To: NoBarNascar@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Tue, November 10, 2009 9:23:04 AM
Subject: Re: [NoBarNascar] Revisiting Dale Earnhardt Jr's First Victory Lane

Sorry Todd, I couldn't help myself..LOL Goooo Danica, Prove her wrong !

--- In NoBarNascar@ yahoogroups. com, "Nell Hooker" <homefreehighrollerb lue@...> wrote:
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> Because she does not belong in Nascar! Women do not belong in car racing!
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> From: Todd Priest

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> So, what are the reasons that you think she should not pursue something that
> she is interested in?
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#33078

From: Nell Hooker <homefreehighrollerblue@...>
Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 8:29 pm
Subject: Re: Revisiting Dale Earnhardt Jr's First Victory Lane

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No Scott, you did not insult me or call me names. I just do not like the idea of a woman being in Nascar at this place and time. I maybe wrong, and will have to eat my words. I was brought up to think a woman and man had their place in the world. Men were suppose to make a living, and the woman stayed home and took care of the home, and children, and that is why I said, because I was brought up in the

old-fashioned way. At this time men were suppose to be stronger than women, and smarter than a women. Most all of the girls I graduated with got married, and had a family. None went to college! I went to college, when I was 45, and received my degree, which I thought I had accomplished the world because of my age. I hope this will help you in some way of why I do not like a woman in Nascar. Most of you in this group are a lot younger than I am, so you were brought up much different than I was. I have three granddaughters, and I hope than become whatever they would like to become, but I would not like for them to be in Nascar. Nascar is a dangerous sport!! One wants to be a Marine biologist, one wants to be Doctor, and the other one wants to be a Nurse. I don't like the idea of them being in danger, and getting hurt.

Ne;;

From: SCOTT HUMM <westshore82@...>
To: NoBarNascar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, November 11, 2009 5:09:44 PM
Subject: Re: [NoBarNascar] Revisiting Dale Earnhardt Jr's First Victory Lane

I don't think that I insulted you, calle you any name or made any derogitory comment towards you. All I asked for was for you to explain WHY women do not belong in Nascar. Up until now, you still have not made any points. To say they are bitchey and whiney just described 99% of the drivers in nascar who at this point are male. So what you are telling me with this comment is that they are equal to the male counterparts. If that is indeed the case, then there is no reason why they can't race. If you think otherwise, that is fine. Just back up your opinion with something other than what describes the drivers at this point in time.

From: Nell Hooker <homefreehighrollerblue@...>
To: NoBarNascar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, November 11, 2009 12:05:35 PM
Subject: Re: [NoBarNascar] Revisiting Dale Earnhardt Jr's First Victory Lane

I have just as many emails as you do! The one hundred that was posted included everyone else's insults to me. I was responding to all of your insults!

-------Original Message----- --

From: Todd Priest

Date: 11/11/2009 5:16:04 AM

To: NoBarNascar@ yahoogroups. com

Subject: Re: [NoBarNascar] Revisiting Dale Earnhardt Jr's First Victory Lane

I do Nell. Every single one. Even the one hundred that you post.

--- On Tue, 11/10/09, Nell Hooker <homefreehighrollerb lue@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: Nell Hooker <homefreehighrollerb lue@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [NoBarNascar] Revisiting Dale Earnhardt Jr's First Victory Lane
To: NoBarNascar@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Tuesday, November 10, 2009, 8:56 PM

You need to read your email Todd!!!!

-------Original Message----- --

From: Todd Priest

Date: 11/10/2009 6:58:19 PM

To: NoBarNascar@ yahoogroups. com

Subject: Re: [NoBarNascar] Revisiting Dale Earnhardt Jr's First Victory Lane

Who are you talking about? Oh, pot, meet kettle......

--- On Tue, 11/10/09, Nell Hooker <homefreehighrollerb lue@yahoo. com> wrote:

I know you cannot help yourself, because you are just like your twin in the other groups. All you and Punkin know how to do is start name calling, and I for one am sick of it. You both think you know more than anyone else. I got news for you, you are not any smarter than anyone else. You just plain rude and stupid yourself. You both need to get married, you would make a perfect match. I tell you what from the pictures I have seen of her, she looks like she is ready to get on her broom and fly! Join her please!!! Cannot help myself!!!!!

From: holysmoke2010 <smokem1439@gmail. com>
To: NoBarNascar@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Tue, November 10, 2009 9:23:04 AM
Subject: Re: [NoBarNascar] Revisiting Dale Earnhardt Jr's First Victory Lane

Sorry Todd, I couldn't help myself..LOL Goooo Danica, Prove her wrong !

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#33077

From: Smokie Evans <smokem1439@...>
Date: Fri Nov 13, 2009 9:40 am
Subject: Tony will be this weeks in race reporter

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According to ESPN.com Tony will be this weeks in race reporter and you can submit your questions. Go to the NASCAR section of ESPN.COM then to the middle column about 1/2 way down under "Up next".

�The questions I would like to ask wouldn't be acceptable..lol

example:

�Why are you sponsoring JZ after that video that came out when there are a ton of struggling drivers to mentor? I am guessing that it is more personal than I want to believe. LOL

#33076

From: Smokie Evans <smokem1439@...>
Date: Fri Nov 13, 2009 8:49 am
Subject: Stewart Among Finalists for 2009 Home Depot NMPA Humanitarian Award

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Stewart Among Finalists for 2009 Home Depot NMPA Humanitarian Award

Nov 12th, 2009

by SmokinNews.

ATLANTA � Tony Stewart has been named as one of the finalists for the 2009 Home Depot NMPA Humanitarian Award. The other finalists are fellow driver Greg Biffle and Tim Booth of Michigan International Speedway.

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Tony was nominated for his annual event Prelude to the Dream which supports injured and fallen service members and their families. Stewart launched the annual event in 2005 and it has grown in stature and notoriety every year. The event includes participation from the world�s top drivers, an exclusive HBO Pay-Per-View television package and a sold-out race event. The 2009 Prelude brought 25 world-class drivers to a short-track shootout in an effort to raise money. Proceeds from the event were used to help organizations such as Wounded Warriors, Operation Homefront, Intrepid Fund and Fisher House.

Greg Biffle was nominated for his work in raising awareness to the importance of animal welfare. Establishing the Greg Biffle Foundation in 2005, Biffle�s work has lead to more than 200 animal welfare agencies in the United States receiving financial assistance which has allowed the receiving agencies to better care for sheltered animals. Biffle is active in the fund raising, support and publicity for the foundation and serves as the national spokesperson for the North Shore Animal League�s Spay USA which is a nationwide network and referral service for affordable spay/neuter services.

Tim Booth developed the project Spirit of America Blood and Marrow Drive after the September 11 attacks on the United States. His goal with the project was to pay tribute to the victims and survivors of the terrorist attacks and to salute the men and women in uniform while increasing the nation�s blood supply. The inaugural event took place September 11, 2002 and has become an annual event. The event has grown to include co-sponsorship from the NASCAR Foundation, National Marrow Donor Program and Hendrick Marrow Foundation and has resulted in 30 additional tracks around the country hosting their own blood and marrow drives.

The finalists for the 2009 Humanitarian Award were selected by the Humanitarian Award Selection Committee comprised of representatives of the NMPA and The Home Depot. All of the nominees were assessed based on their community commitment and dedication, impact on the community and charitable giving of their time and talents. The three nominees with the highest scores were named finalists for the award.

The winner of the 2009 Humanitarian Award will be announced at the annual NASCAR NMPA Myers Brother Awards program in Las Vegas on December 3. The winner will receive a specially-designed crystal trophy and a $100,000 cash donation to the recipient�s designated charity. Additionally, the two remaining finalists will each receive $25,000 cash donations to their respective charitable organizations.

The NMPA Home Depot Humanitarian Award was established in 2007. The inaugural Humanitarian Award winner was Don Miller, a former Penske Racing executive. Miller started the Stock-for-Tots program as a holiday event to collect toys and raise funds for Stop Child Abuse Now (SCAN). Richard Childress, president and CEO of Childress Racing, won the 2008 edition of the Humanitarian Award. Childress established the Childress Institute for Pediatric Trauma at the Wake Forest Baptist Medical Center in 2008. Traumatic injury is the leading cause of death for children in the United States, and the Childress Institute focuses on research, education, treatment, prevention and raising awareness of childhood injuries.

#33075

From: Smokie Evans <smokem1439@...>
Date: Fri Nov 13, 2009 8:41 am
Subject: Smoke�s Texas Hold�em Poker Tournament To Debut On November 28 At Hollywood Casino in Indiana

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Smoke�s Texas Hold�em Poker Tournament To Debut On November 28 At Hollywood Casino in Indiana

Nov 12th, 2009

by SmokinNews.

LAWRENCEBURG, IN � Two-time NASCAR Sprint Cup champion and current Chase contender Tony Stewart is set to enjoy a great game of poker against his fans. On Saturday, November 28, with the 2009 Chase and a hugely successful race season as an owner/driver behind him, Tony will head for the Hollywood Casino Lawrenceburg, Ind., to host the main event of his inaugural �Smoke�s Texas Hold�em Poker Tournament.� Proceeds from the tournament will benefit the Tony Stewart Foundation. Since its founding in 2003, the Indianapolis-based foundation has awarded over $4 million in grants to not-for-profit groups throughout the US serving critically ill or injured children; injured, abused or at risk animals, and injured racing drivers and their families. Proceeds from this tourney have been earmarked to benefit organizations dedicated to responsible thoroughbred race horse retirementand greyhound adoption organizations

A series of satellite tournaments will precede the November 28 Main event. Entry fee for the Main event is $500 � or a spot at the table can be won in the satellite tournaments. Complete information about the tournament, dates of the satellite events, how to enter, details about a pre-tourney VIP reception hosted by Tony at Hollywood Casino, and more can be found at www.SmokesPoker.com. The casino features a 41 table, World Poker Tour branded poker room, and the largest live card room in the Midwest. Located on the lower deck of the casino, the room includes nine high-limit tables, 22 flat screen televisions, leather high-back chairs with lumbar support for every player and numerous additional features designed for player comfort. Promotional partners for the inaugural Smoke�s Texas Hold�em Poker Tournament include Hollywood Casino, Coca-Cola and Emmis Communications� Indianapolis stations HANK-FM, WIBC-FM, and 1070 The Fan. In conjunction with the poker event, HANK-FM�s morning show duo, Wank & O�Brien, is hosting an �Are You a Super Fan?� video competition to identify and reward two of Tony�s biggest fans. Grand prize will be entry into November 28 poker tournament festivities at the Hollywood Casino and the opportunity to meet Tony. Complete details about this contest can be found at Smokes Poker. About the Tony Stewart Foundation� The Tony Stewart Foundation was founded in 2003. Since its inception, it has awarded over $4 million in grants to not-for-profit organizations throughout the US serving critically ill or injured children; injured, abused or at risk animals, and injured motorsports drivers and their families. For more information about the foundation, log on at www.TonyStewartFoundation.org.

#33074

From: "holysmoke2010" <smokem1439@...>
Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 9:10 pm
Subject: Re: Nascar Felony - LOL

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Poor Jeffy was ascreered to rob a bank..lol

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> his jeff gordon apparel must have been in the wash.
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> Racing fans are so dedicated to their favorite drivers that they won't even remove their easily identifiable NASCAR merchandise before committing bank robberies. There's an epidemic of high-octane felonies, but ironically, the getaway cars aren't that fast.
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