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Windy (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Oct-15-06 11:15 PM
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Bush buys land in Paraguay.... Why? Any thoughts?
http://www.plenglish.com/article.asp?ID={EBA55617-2676-...
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Bush Buys Land in Northern Paraguay

Buenos Aires, Oct 13 (Prensa Latina) An Argentine official regarded the intention of the George W. Bush family to settle on the Acuifero Guarani (Paraguay) as surprising, besides being a bad signal for the governments of the region.


Luis D Elia, undersecretary for the Social Habitat in the Argentine Federal Planning Ministry, issued a memo partially reproduced by digital INFOBAE.com, in which he spoke of the purchase by Bush of a 98,842-acre farm in northern Paraguay, between Brazil and Bolivia.



The news circulated Thursday in non-official sources in Asuncion, Paraguay.



D Elia considered this Bush step counterproductive for the regional power expressed by Presidents Nestor Kirchner, Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva, Evo Morales, Hugo Chavez and Fidel Castro.



He said that "it is a bad signal that the Bush family is doing business with natural resources linked to the future of MERCOSUR."



The official pointed out that this situation could cause a hypothetical conflict of all the armies in the region, and called attention to the Bush family habit of associating business and politics.


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   dupe thread  Wonk   Oct-15-06 11:16 PM   #1 
   When is he leaving the US for good?  savemefromdumbya   Oct-16-06 10:05 AM   #36 
   Some old family friends said it was nice and safe there.  Lautremont   Oct-15-06 11:17 PM   #2 
   German Nazi war criminals fled to Paraguay after WW II ended  whistle   Oct-15-06 11:19 PM   #3 
   Sort of reminds me of a line from YELLOW SUBMARINE  Ken Burch   Oct-15-06 11:37 PM   #11 
      Colonel Peron sings about retiring to Paraguay in Evita  soothsayer   Oct-16-06 08:59 AM   #33 
   Nazi hideout..  Webster Green   Oct-15-06 11:19 PM   #4 
   The Nazis will eat Condi alive if she puts foot down there and tries  whistle   Oct-15-06 11:21 PM   #7 
   Because that's where lots of war criminals wind up?  babylonsister   Oct-15-06 11:20 PM   #5 
   Godwin's law  Richard D   Oct-15-06 11:20 PM   #6 
   doesn't Rev Moon own land there?  yorkiemommie1   Oct-15-06 11:21 PM   #8 
   Yes  eagler   Oct-16-06 11:56 AM   #39 
   He needs some wood! (I couldn't resist) (eom)  apnu   Oct-15-06 11:25 PM   #9 
   Coca plantation?  Mendocino   Oct-15-06 11:32 PM   #10 
   What kind of extradition treaties does Paraguay have ?  Spinzonner   Oct-15-06 11:39 PM   #12 
   If your asking can he hideout there yes  Monkeyman   Oct-15-06 11:43 PM   #13 
   Maybe the Gore admin. will be able to work something out w/ them?  Phredicles   Oct-16-06 12:43 AM   #19 
   They want to be closer to the mountains they plan  roody   Oct-15-06 11:44 PM   #14 
   so he can escape the Hague and live with the other Nazi's hiding there..  sam sarrha   Oct-15-06 11:44 PM   #15 
   Hedge against the dollar crashing? If you're in the FOOD business  MADem   Oct-15-06 11:48 PM   #16 
   Boys from Brazil  Nolo_Contendre   Oct-15-06 11:51 PM   #17 
   Here's a few thoughts in an interesting article.  confuddled   Oct-16-06 12:17 AM   #18 
   Hmm, centrally located Paraguay becomes staging area for  Lydia Leftcoast   Oct-16-06 12:47 AM   #22 
   Theory #1 has a lot of merit  BrotherBuzz   Oct-16-06 01:11 AM   #27 
   And Bush IS military, as Commander in Chief, so he gets immunity  redacted   Oct-16-06 08:57 AM   #32 
   wow  bloom   Oct-16-06 12:00 PM   #40 
   Connect the dots, friends.  BeHereNow   Oct-16-06 12:46 AM   #20 
   Now I know -my intuition IS on target. I've been wracking my brain  higher class   Oct-16-06 12:47 AM   #21 
   Thanks for connecting the dots...  TheGoldenRule   Oct-16-06 02:53 AM   #31 
   the water wars are about to begin (or are already raging behind  soothsayer   Oct-16-06 09:01 AM   #34 
   I wonder what Laura and the twins think about this.  amandabeech   Oct-16-06 12:59 AM   #23 
   Jenna is already in South America.  TheGoldenRule   Oct-16-06 02:52 AM   #30 
   So where did she get her abortion?  amandabeech   Oct-16-06 11:42 AM   #37 
   Laura doesn't factor into this  jmowreader   Oct-16-06 10:03 AM   #35 
      I hope that she does get rid of him.  amandabeech   Oct-16-06 11:44 AM   #38 
   Outsourcing the administration?  aaronbees   Oct-16-06 01:01 AM   #24 
   Going to go retire with your Nazi buddies, eh George?  Odin2005   Oct-16-06 01:02 AM   #25 
   I'm surprised bush isn't going to visit his friend Ken Lay.  alyce douglas   Oct-16-06 01:53 PM   #43 
   O geez now you poor people are going to have your country stunk up.  Justice Is Comin   Oct-16-06 01:08 AM   #26 
   Paraguay does seem to have a history of harboring Nazi war criminals.  w4rma   Oct-16-06 01:58 AM   #28 
   Aren't Poppy & Rev Moon trying to buy up a lot of fresh water  K8-EEE   Oct-16-06 02:05 AM   #29 
   Interesting article about longtime Paraguay ruler forced into exile  shance   Oct-16-06 01:08 PM   #41 
   I would love to hear Keith Olbermann's take on this  alyce douglas   Oct-16-06 01:34 PM   #42 
 
Wonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Oct-15-06 11:16 PM
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1. dupe thread
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savemefromdumbya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Oct-16-06 10:05 AM
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36. When is he leaving the US for good?
sooner the better
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Lautremont (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Oct-15-06 11:17 PM
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2. Some old family friends said it was nice and safe there.
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whistle (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Oct-15-06 11:19 PM
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3. German Nazi war criminals fled to Paraguay after WW II ended
...so shrub* is going to be with his people. There must be some sort of occult evil energy field in that part of the world. Nazi war criminals and their families and their money has been protected down there for over 60 years
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Oct-15-06 11:37 PM
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11. Sort of reminds me of a line from YELLOW SUBMARINE
(At the end of the story, when John, Paul George and Ringo had helped Old Fred defeat the Blue Meanies and restore the glory of Pepperland)

Chief Blue Meanie: Max...it's not a Blue world world anymore, Max...Where shall we go?

Blue Max: ...Argentina?...

(Chief Blue Meanie slaps Max on the head...)
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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Oct-16-06 08:59 AM
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33. Colonel Peron sings about retiring to Paraguay in Evita
before she urges him to run for president
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Oct-15-06 11:19 PM
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4. Nazi hideout..
The BFEE will fit in nicely.
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whistle (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Oct-15-06 11:21 PM
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7. The Nazis will eat Condi alive if she puts foot down there and tries
...to rise above house servant
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Oct-15-06 11:20 PM
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5. Because that's where lots of war criminals wind up?
Edited on Sun Oct-15-06 11:21 PM by babylonsister
Because that's a big enough plot of land to hide from his/their enemies?
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Richard D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Oct-15-06 11:20 PM
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6. Godwin's law
prevents an answer.
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yorkiemommie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Oct-15-06 11:21 PM
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8. doesn't Rev Moon own land there?
i thought it was about water rights?
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eagler (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Oct-16-06 11:56 AM
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39. Yes
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apnu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Oct-15-06 11:25 PM
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9. He needs some wood! (I couldn't resist) (eom)
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Mendocino Donating Member (105 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Oct-15-06 11:32 PM
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10. Coca plantation?
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Spinzonner (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Oct-15-06 11:39 PM
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12. What kind of extradition treaties does Paraguay have ?
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Monkeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Oct-15-06 11:43 PM
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13. If your asking can he hideout there yes Updated at 1:23 PM
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Phredicles (542 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Oct-16-06 12:43 AM
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19. Maybe the Gore admin. will be able to work something out w/ them?
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roody (514 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Oct-15-06 11:44 PM
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14. They want to be closer to the mountains they plan
Edited on Sun Oct-15-06 11:48 PM by roody
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Oct-15-06 11:44 PM
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15. so he can escape the Hague and live with the other Nazi's hiding there..
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Oct-15-06 11:48 PM
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16. Hedge against the dollar crashing? If you're in the FOOD business
(ranching, farming) it's a good biz to be in when economies crash. People gotta eat, even if they can't afford the latest flat TV or iPod or what have you....
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Nolo_Contendre (45 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Oct-15-06 11:51 PM
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17. Boys from Brazil
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confuddled (194 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Oct-16-06 12:17 AM
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18. Here's a few thoughts in an interesting article.
Found this January 2006 article interesting at the time and even more so now:

www.politicalaffairs.net/article/view/2479/1/140/

"The Bush administration has sent troops into Paraguay. They are
there ostensibly for humanitarian and counterterrorism purposes. The action coincides with growing left unity in South America, military buildup in the region and burgeoning independent trade
relationships."

snip

" In December 2004, the Bush administration canceled $330 million in economic and military aid to 10 South American countries. They were being penalized for turning down a US request for granting its
soldiers immunity from prosecution for crimes they commit within the countries' borders.

On May 5, however, the government of Paraguay took the bait. It
signed an agreement authorizing an 18-month stay, automatically
extended, for US soldiers and civilian employees. The previous limit had been set at six months. On May 26, in a secret session,
Paraguay's Congress passed legislation protecting US soldiers from
prosecution for criminal activity, both within Paraguay and by the
International Criminal Court."

So, what do you make of this turn of events?
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Oct-16-06 12:47 AM
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22. Hmm, centrally located Paraguay becomes staging area for
invasions of uppity Latin American countries? (Theory #1)

Paraguay has a history of hiding Nazi war criminals. Maybe some Bush family friends have invited him to come down there to escape if he's extradited to The Hague. (Theory #2)
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Oct-16-06 01:11 AM
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27. Theory #1 has a lot of merit

Dark Armies, Secret Bases, and Rummy




by Conn Hallinan

November 24, 2005

<snip>

But there is nothing amusing about an enormous U.S. base less than 120 miles from the Bolivian border, or the explosive growth of U.S.-financed mercenary armies that are doing everything from training the military in Paraguay and Ecuador to calling in air attacks against guerillas in Colombia. Indeed, it is feeling a little like the run up to the `60s and `70s, when Washington-sponsored military dictatorships dominated most of the continent, and dark armies ruled the night.


U.S. Special Forces began arriving this past summer at Paraguay's Mariscal Estigarribia air base, a sprawling complex built in 1982 during the reign of dictator Alfredo Stroessner. Argentinean journalists who got a peek at the place say the airfield can handle B-52 bombers and Galaxy C-5 cargo planes. It also has a huge radar system, vast hangers, and can house up to 16,000 troops. The air base is larger than the international airport at the capital city, Asuncion .

<snip>

"Privatizing" war is not only the logical extension of the Bush administration's mania for contracting everything out to the private sector; it also shields the White House's activities from the U.S. Congress. "My complaint about the use of private contractors," says U.S. Rep. Jan Schakowsy (D-IL), "is their ability to fly under the radar to avoid accountability."

<snip

Would the United States try to destabilize Bolivia's economy while training people how to use military force to insure Enron, Shell, British Gas, Total, Repsol, and the United States continues to get Bolivian gas for pennies on the dollar? Quite likely.


And would the White House like to use such a coup as a way to send a message to other countries? You bet. President Bush may be clueless on geography, but he is not bad at overthrowing governments and killing people.


Will it be as easy as it was in the old days when the CIA could bribe truckers to paralyze Chile and set the stage for a coup? Nothing is easy in Latin America anymore.

<more>

http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&...
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redacted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Oct-16-06 08:57 AM
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32. And Bush IS military, as Commander in Chief, so he gets immunity
from prosecution for criminal activity, both within Paraguay and by the
International Criminal Court.

Moreover, what is Jenna doing having dinner there with Paraguay's head of state? Talking about UNICEF? Doubtful.

This is absolutely astonishing. I would infer that some sort of secret deal was cut to pump US dollars into this poor country's economy, through military base construction, in exchange for legislation protecting Shrub from prosecution.

A sitting President is apparently making plans to flee the United States with his family. This is quite remarkable.
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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Oct-16-06 12:00 PM
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40. wow
The Bushes must be worried.
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20. Connect the dots, friends.
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