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Illegal Prisons for Torture with NO DUE PROCESS OF LAW. Many of these people do not even know what they are charged with 4 years later and the military refuses to let their attorneys know.
More information at the excellent humanitarian site http://www.CagePrisoners.com/
Defiant US Presses On With Construction of Maximum-Security Prison Complex By Con Coughlin 17/02/2006
America is pressing ahead with the construction of a complex of high-security jails at Guantanamo Bay despite calls from the United Nations for the prison camp to be closed.
The US military has just finished building a $16 million (£9 million) 100-bed maximum-security prison, and a second jail capable of holding 200 prisoners is due to be completed this summer.
Senior officers at Guantanamo say they aim to have all of the 500 detainees currently held at the US Naval base housed in the maximum security prisons, which are based on a state-of-the-art jail in Idaho.
Work on the jails is continuing despite a call from the authors of a UN human rights report for the immediate closure of Guantanamo and prosecution of American officials found guilty of torturing the inmates.
The White House last night dismissed the report as a "discredit to the UN". "They haven't even looked into the facts, all they've done is look at the allegations," said White House spokesman Scott McClellan. "We know that al-Qa'eda terrorists are trained in trying to disseminate false allegations."
The Pentagon has rejected the findings of the UN report, and says it will continue to hold the detainees, which it classifies as enemy combatants, so long as they can provide intelligence and until they are no longer deemed to be a threat to the security of the US.
SOURCE: The Telegraph
=Write To The Forgotten Detainees
It takes little imagination to visualise life in a prison. The confined cell, the bare walls, the silence, and most of all, the feeling of isolation. Many have no family members in the UK and as a result they have become despondent and desperate. In one case, a detainee was actually seeking permission from a scholar to commit suicide until he began to receive letters from the public, which renewed his desire and motivation to live.
It is not enough that we feel sorry for what they are going through. It is not enough that we shed a few tears when we sit and think about what they are experiencing. Nor is it enough that we lay back and wait for others to take on the responsibility of reaching out to them.
We must not fail them at this critical time. We must hasten to comfort them, and support them at a time when they need us most. We must write letters that give them hope, help strengthen them and motivate them to persevere in remaining patient. We must be their link to the outside world, a link that shows that they have not been forgotten.
Such letter-writing campaigns have proved to be hugely successful – with the 8 Belmarsh detainees receiving 60 letters each in the week that the campaign was first launched and with Babar Ahmad receiving over 50 letters in his first week in prison.
Therefore we urge you all to make it a regular practice to write to at least one prisoner a week and to encourage all your family members and friends to do the same.
The letters can be as short as a paragraph, preferably written in your own handwriting as it is more personal, or if you do not have time to write a letter, you can buy a set of 'Thinking of You' cards. The content of the letters should be encouraging them to be patient, reminding them to have hope and that they have not been forgotten. This should not take more than half an hour and should not cost you more than £3. However, it may give hope to a prisoner for whom half an hour is like half a year.
Simple messages of goodwill are enough. Never advance your political opinion or discuss politics at all.
Clearly state the prisoner number otherwise the card will not reach the intended recipient. In some cases, the names of prisoners are withheld for legal reasons.
For more information on why you should write and for ideas on what to write, click here.
If you have included your name and address (preferably a stamped addressed envelope) it is probable that the prisoners will write back to you and you can find out exactly what their situation is like inside. If you still prefer not to leave your name and address, then please write to them anyway.
Please ensure that the prisoner addresses are written exactly as they appear below.
PRISONER ADDRESSES UK
Detainee Z
c/o Chantel Fenton
Birnberg Peirce & Partners
14 Inverness Street
London
NW1 7HJ
HMP BELMARSH
(Note: the detainees cannot receive books, tapes, clothes etc; money can help prisoners buying extra food and other items but should be sent via special delivery)
Saajid Badat JG9199
HMP Belmarsh
Western Way
Thamesmead
London SE28 OEB
Dhiren Barot NB5353
HMP Belmarsh
Western Way
Thamesmead
London SE28 0EB
Mohammad Bhatti MX5483
HMP Belmarsh
Western Way
Thamesmead
London SE28 0EB
Hedi Boudhiba LL4587 (letters should be in French or Arabic only)
HMP Belmarsh
Western Way
Thamesmead
London
SE28 OEB
GUANTANAMO BAY, CUBA
Prisoner name (see prisoner gallery profiles)
Camp Delta
P.O. Box 160
Washington DC 20053
USA
NOTE: Individuals should note that while we have had it confirmed from one of the US lawyers who has visited Guantanamo, that the US government do allow mail from non-family members, all mail is subject to extreme delays as well as censors. There is a strong possibility that the JTF in Guantanamo will withhold letters for up to a year or longer, or that the detainees may never receive your letter.
Only one released detainee we spoke to has received mail from non-relatives, in spite of many having been sent. The US is believed to be clamping down on mail particularly, of late. However, letter-writing can be considered a protest action, as it sends a strong message to the US administration that the world has not forgotten the prisoners in Guantanamo, but rather is immensely concerned about what is occuring in Cuba
== wish that it would stop it...unfortunately, I think it will of course lead to violence in retribution which will lead the arrogant f**ks that have commandeered America to justify FURTHER violence and torture and war and conquest to "defend" themselves from the mysteriously intractible non-whites.
(.....mourns....for all of us Earthlings...)
=FAMILIES
- Family of Ahcene Zemiri (Algerian, Guantanamo)
- Family of Ali Qaffan (Yemeni, Guantanamo)
- Family of Bisher Al Rawi (British resident, Guantanamo)
- Families of the Bosnian detainees in Guantanamo: Al Akhdar Boumediene, Bin Siyah BilQasim, Hajj Boudella, Mohammad Nechla, Mustafa Ait Idir, Sabir Lahmar
- Family of Khalid ibn Mustafa (Released from Guantanamo, in French custody)
- Families of the Kuwaiti 11 (Guantanamo)
- Family of Jamal Abdullah Kiyemba (British resident, Guantanamo)
- Family of Jamil El Banna (British resident, Guantanamo)
- Family of Mobeen Muneef (Briton detained in Abu Ghraib)
- Family of Monear Eldrissy (Briton detained in Azerbaijan)
- Family of Omar Degahes (British resident, Guantanamo)
- Family of Omar Khadr (Canadian, Guantanamo)
- Family of Said Arif (Algerian detained in France)
- Family of Shaker Aamer (British resident, Guantanamo)
- Families of Seifullah Chapman, Masud Khan, Hamad Abdurraheem, Ahmad Abu Ali (Virginia, US)
=How many will be deleted? How many of us know the truth? It's getting really hard to sift through all these truths and call them theory isn't it? They better get those camps built fast, cause they are gonna have to put the entire American population in them. Bush has tagged bloggers as terrorist.
=Photos disgust whole world not just Islamoland
Edited on Fri Feb-17-06 12:23 AM by lostexpectation
Im looking at us newsite and they havn't reported it yet, look at this report from abcnews, it describes wednesday photos as merely "more of the same"???
http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=1626378
And the crucial thing that I see is that it said "when the first batch of photos were released they caused anger in the Islamic world"? eh they caused a hell of alot of anger and disgust all the overworld!!, its not just about islamoland?
===SHAME & ANGER ......I feel at this moment
God Damn you for doing this to my country...GOD DAMN YOU!
===or the AbuGhraib photos and videos.... ...another post and program that was ignored is the one about Dick Gordon's "The Story" on NPR (National Publica Radio) today. It dealt with torture. It was very compelling. He interviewed a man who had been tortured much like the US is torturing detainees at AbuGhraib and Gitmo.
But the post sunk to the bottom of GD in less than a minute. Oh well. (whining: I tried!)
=You're a braver person than me... ... I had enough from the first batch of publicly-released photos. The fact that there is more evidence is more than enough for me. I don't need to see it and I feel sorry for members of the {hopefully} future U.S. War Crimes tribunal who have to see it in order to put these criminals to justice.
/Kudos to http://www.Salon.com for doing this. I suspect it wasn't an easy decision.
==Now Its Time For fearless leader Bush to publicly say he is Deeply Sorry
When the retaliation attack comes,
we just might deserve it.
==this could only be done by a small handful
of people and they've been punished...yeah right. *co are bastards who were not born from mothers.
IMPEACH BUSH AND SEND THEM ALL TO THE HAGUE!
==For many Iraqis the images, which follow the publication in 2004 of a first series of such pictures, drove home the wrongs of the occupation of their country. "I felt disgusted when I saw those pictures and I felt at the same time how weak our government is that it can't help its own people," said Sadun Mohammed, sitting in his shop reading an article in the newspaper.
(more at link below, and this does have some of the mild pictures)
<http://www.afp.com/english/news/stories/060217023653.ie... >
=====It's true, and the Bush Cabal considers the case closed.
I'd say that's a LOT of wishful thinking.
== couldn't get through five of them.... on Salon.com. I can't even imagine leafing through 1,000+ images of that horror.
Holy cow!!! 1,325 images of suspected detainee abuse
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,,1711844,00.html
Abu Ghraib leaked report reveals full extent of abuse
· 1,325 images of suspected detainee abuse
· 93 video files of suspected detainee abuse
· 660 images of adult pornography
· 546 images of suspected dead Iraqi detainees
· 29 images of soldiers in simulated sexual acts
Suzanne Goldenberg in Washington
Friday February 17, 2006
The Guardian
Nearly two years after the first pictures of naked and humiliated Iraqi detainees emerged from Abu Ghraib prison, the full extent of the abuse became known for the first time yesterday with a leaked report from the US army's internal investigation into the scandal.
The catalogue of abuse, which was obtained by the online American magazine Salon, could not have arrived at a worse time for the Bush administration, coinciding with yesterday's United Nations report on abuse of detainees at Guantánamo, the release of a video showing British troops beating up Iraqi youths, and lingering anger in the Muslim world over cartoons of the prophet Muhammad.
Bush administration officials had already been fending off a new wave of anger about the torture of detainees - following the airing of graphic images from Abu Ghraib on Australian television - when Salon posted a story on its website yesterday saying it had obtained what appears to be the fullest photographic record to date of the abuse.
"Never underestimate a desperate president." Trent Lott 1998 Clinton Impeachment Trial
=love this line:
Edited on Thu Feb-16-06 09:47 PM by Flabbergasted
Iraq's prime minister, Ibrahim al-Jaafari, while condemning the abuse at Abu Ghraib, noted that US soldiers had already been punished for it.
Wow this small group of soldiers who were punished did all this:
· 1,325 images of suspected detainee abuse
· 93 video files of suspected detainee abuse
· 660 images of adult pornography
· 546 images of suspected dead Iraqi detainees
· 29 images of soldiers in simulated sexual acts
British Judge tells Guantanamo detainees they can appeal
A top judge on Thursday permitted three British residents being held at Guantanamo Bay to take legal action in order to force the government to facilitate their release. Judge Andrew Collins told London's High Court that the United States' idea of what constituted torture was "not the same as ours and doesn't appear to coincide with that of most civilised countries."
Iraqi Bisher al-Rawi and his Jordanian business partner, Jamil el-Banna, were both detained in Gambia three years ago, whilst Omar Deghayes was detained in Pakistan -- all three are long-term British residents. The case could come to court as early as next week. Despite Collins' comments and his decision to allow the three to mount a full scale bid to force the British government to seek their freedom, the judge said there was no guarantee when the case was heard it would succeed.
He said there were formidable arguments against such an order being made. Gareth Peirce, the lawyer who represents the men, welcomed the ruling as "the first ray of light that we have had". "(This is) the first ability to hope that this might be the beginning of the end for the ordeal of these three families," Peirce said. The move came a day after the United Nations told the United States it should close the widely-condemned prison on Cuba.
http://www.swissinfo.org/sen/swissinfo.html?siteSect=14...
=Ain't MY idea either...not ALL Americans are criminal, sick, stupid MFers.
HEY HEY BUSH AND BLAIR, HOW MANY KIDS WILL YOU KILL OVER THERE!
Exactly and how does this help our national security This is an issue that should not be ignored by the democrats. We are not safer when a judge tells a high court it doesn't appear to coincide with that of most civilised countries
===US rejects calls to shut Guantanamo (AFP)
(I guess that had to ask...)
US rejects calls to shut Guantanamo 17/02/2006 02h20
WASHINGTON (AFP) - The United States has angrily rejected calls by UN human rights monitors to close the Guantanamo detention camp calling their report "a discredit" to the world body. But UN Secretary General Kofi Annan said that "sooner or later" the controversial camp will have to be shut down -- stepping up pressure on the US administration....(clip)
...The 54-page document strongly condemned the treatment of the 500 detainees at the Guantanamo Bay US Naval Base in Cuba. It pointed to cases of "excessive violence" during transportation of detainees and force feeding of hunger strikers. These "must be assessed as amounting to torture", the report said.
The investigators said the US military acted as judge, prosecutor and defence in the special trials at the base. They said the US authorities should "expeditiously bring all Guantanamo Bay detainees to trial" under international law, "or release them without further delay".
The White House quickly hit back at the investigators, criticising them for writing the report without having been to Guantanamo. The experts cancelled a planned visit to the camp last year because the United States refused to give them free access to all prisoners....
(more at link below)
<http://www.afp.com/english/news/stories/060217022058.dv... >
"What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy?" - Gandhi
Why does Bush issue a signing statement exempting himself from the prohibition against torture? My only question is why anybody with more than one functioning brain cell believes these liars. My conclusion is that Bush's hardcore base is as morally depraved as he is, and relishes the thought of imposing pain on helpless people.
There are segments of our society who are sociopaths. Instead of trying to deal with them, we find ourselves governed by them. I fear for our future. Americans have to be the most docile, brain dead people who ever lived, because Nazi Germany had no example to follow. We have Nazi Germany, and apparently are deaf and blind to the lessons.
Those of us who are older, whose relatives served in WWII remember the battles our fathers and uncles fought to oppose these monsters. In a way, it's a blessing my father died some years ago. What, now, would his service have been worth, if we have become what he fought against?
=Well said! I think about those who fought in WWII and wonder the exact same thing. I wince from the answers that play across my mind.
Just one more way the Bush Regime has made a mockery of America and her people. To spit upon what so many have died for...
===So then why does BUSH say he has the right to order TORTURE? Gee ya know, ya can't have up and down at the same time, stupid MFer.
== video http://bradblog.com/video/flvplayer/FlvPlayer.html?file...
Sure, yeah, okay ... This from the man who equated making a prisoner stand in a stressful position for eight hours with him standing in his own office during the business day.
This from the man who couldn't be bothered to sign his own name to letters going to parents whose kids were killed in Iraq - had to have someone else do it for him. I guess that in his book, the potential for writer's cramp constitutes 'torture'.
What a sorry excuse for a human being ...
===That's some sick shit... I could only get thru five of them before I had to close that page...
I've had just about all I can take from Bush's America.
"I'm sick and tired of being sick and tired." - Fannie Lou Hamer
==it is not only the human capacity for denial that is infinite, but also the capacity for making excuses and pretexts=Kos has the video (SBS Dateline Austrailia - Abu Ghraib Video Link
by reflectionsv37
First, let me apologize for the one line diary entry. I had not seen this anywhere here and thought it would be of interest and want to make sure it gets as much exposure as possible before it disappears.
Here. is a link to the transcript from the February 15th SBS Dateline program and you can watch the entire 14 minute video of the program Here.
Perhaps there is someone here who can capture this video in the advent it gets scrubbed from view.
To say the least, it is outrageous and disgusting!!
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/2/16/183018/550
=I will NEVER, NEVER forgive those who have brought such shame on my country. They have criminally distorted our culture. They have criminally distorted what it means to be American. I hold accountable EVERYONE who had anything to do with this, right up the entire chain of command. And for what? For what? How is this "keeping us safe"??? We are certainly not safe with people like this in power, condoning,and creating,this evil. There can be no forgiveness for this, EVER.
=Fantastic. You absolutely evil utter MORONS. "A review of all the computer media submitted to this office revealed a total of 1,325 images of suspected detainee abuse, 93 video files of suspected detainee abuse, 660 images of adult pornography, 546 images of suspected dead Iraqi detainees, 29 images of soldiers in simulated sexual acts, 20 images of a soldier with a Swastika drawn between his eyes, 37 images of Military Working dogs being used in abuse of detainees and 125 images of questionable acts."
You fking IDIOTS. You are SO UTTERLY fked. You may have been able to argue down six or a dozen pictures as "isolated incidents" and blame some brainless low-ranked dolts before, let's see you try that with this gigantic SLEW of proof of your evil.
(whips out Calculator) 2835 isolated incidents?
Why for the love of Hell would you FILM all this? Is it that thing they theorize about really sloppy serial killers--the wish to be caught? Or was it flat arrogance? Or was it the same reason such serial killers take little trophies....so they can later relive the crimes for their own personal enjoyment?
Congratulations. How many dark-beige people who see this HUGE ARCHIVE of American evil are gonna become "terrorists" do you think? Fantastic job! Winning hearts and minds--by going straight through the skull or chest to get at them!
== These are in no way "the entirety" Shocking as these pictures at Salon are, they are a completely different set than what appeared in the SBS Dateline story. There was also more on the program than the other batch of photos released yesterday.
Everybody really needs to see the full Dateline report. Here are torrent links:
http://www.boingboing.net/2006/02/15/new_abu_ghraib_tor... - Just the Abu Ghraib segment (88M, MP4 format)
http://ts.searching.com/torrent/538362/SBS_Dateline_New... - Full Dateline episode (350M, AVI format)
If you're new to BitTorrent, here's a guide (links to other guides and software at the bottom of page):
http://www.bileduct.com/guides/bittorrent.html
Everybody needs to get, keep, and spread copies of this stuff.
=I forced myself to look at them all.
It is horrible, but I think everyone should be forced to look at them especially those who still supported Bush or who supported him in 2004!! I am glad Salon is posting them unmodified - everyone should be forced to see just how horrible these acts are. I hope Salon posts them all, along with the videos. America NEEDS to see.
Although, I do find it disturbing that some Freepers out there are probably getting turned on looking at them. Sick bastards.
=Salon letters page is getting freeped. It's unbelievable...even in the face of photographic evidence of such unspeakable evil, the faithful still defend the unthinkable. One poster said something to effect that he had seen worse personally. Another said that Salon should have published stills from the Nick Berg decapitation video for "balance."
Thankfully, they're in the minority. Yet, I'm simply in shock. Every time I think I've seen just how low these human filth can sink, they surprise me again.
=felt that I must look & absorb what we have done to others
i have so much shame for what my Country has & is doing.
=These is sickening
Bushco is as bad as Hitler
="A few bad apples" my ass
This could only have been condoned from the top down. The whole (mis)administration should be in the dock at The Hague. There is absolutely no reason-ethically, morally or legally- for this to have been done to human beings whose only crime was to live in a country we invaded on a series of pretexts. This is no different than what Hitler's SS did. One day these bastards will be held accountable-if not in this world, then the next.
==Feel a bit numb after seeing these
I am not sure if I am more shocked and disturbed by the photos or by the comments posted on Salon defending the photos
==Allow it?
They authored it.
They ordered it.
They invented it.
May they rot in hell!!!!
==I am ashamed to be an American... I never thought I would have to say
that...
I am heartbroken that my government would allow this to happen.
That's an easy question to answer.
Because it strips them of their dignity. It forces them into submission. It kills their self-worth.
They force them to do simulated sex acts with other prisoners for similar reasons. There are also homophobic reasons behind it, because being gay is often associated with being "dirty, shameful and evil". The Military is pretty anti-gay so there shouldn't shouldn't come as a huge shock.
I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America and to the corrupt and overly-bloated Republic for which it stands, one nation under surveillance, heavily divided, with liberty and justice for those who can afford it.
==Why are they always naked?!?!?
What kind of sick, twisted, sadistic shit is this??
=Nazis used nudity in concentration camps--it strips prisoners of their sense of self, of identity, of self worth
I believe there is a record of Nazis forcing women musicians in a concentration camp to give concerts nude
"If I see a madman driving a car into a group of innocent bystanders, then I can't, as a Christian, simply wait for the catastrophe and then comfort the wounded and bury the dead. I must try to wrestle the steering wheel out of the hands of the driver." Dietrich Bonhoeffer (statement badly misused by Robertson)
==Oh, man- it's about frigging time.
The Admin. and DoD made pefectly clear that they intend to play infinite amts. of stalling games on this crap.
= yes, i believe that you are right
the women and children...
==The photos are horrific enough - God help us when video w/sound gets out.
The the events that Seymour Hersh spoke of well over a year ago will become believable to a doubtful America.
Maybe THEN Bush can be held responsible and tried for WAR CRIMES along with Gonzo and his other pals.
=oh my god. Get these bastards out of office, out of our military, out of our country. my conscience hurts.
= off our PLANET. ==Thanks for the catch.
The spin is all about the photos which I think are directing attention away from the content of the photos, which show undocumented prisoners, implicating multiple government agencies in torture and murder. This is horrible and they are trying to gloss over it, by saying the "pictures" tell us nothing new.
Thanks again. The ghost prisoner thing just adds to the story.
=="Ghost prisoners"
And there's no record of all of many of the prisoners that were tortured to death. One photo shows a man who died at Abu-Ghraib prison. The caption for the photo states that there is no record of his imprisonment. If it weren't for these photos, we'd never know that Mr. al-Jamadi was even in US custody, much less that he was killed by CIA interrogators.
The US is shipping these prisoners to Abu Ghraib & Eastern Europe gulags, where they disappear. Since there's no record of their imprisonment, the interrogators can treat them any way they want, without worrying about the Geneva Convention or US laws. How many other people have died that we don't even know about?
"Army, CIA Agreed on Ghost Prisoners" http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A25239-20...
=So it was the content of the CID notes that scared the government so much they had to hide these. Remember it's not about the gore in the pictures its about the information in the investigation. CIA officers torturing prisoners to the point of death.
So that's it then?
=another site
http://www.chris-floyd.com/abu/#oz
==I don't really know what to say.. I don't want to believe it, but I know it's true.. I can't stand this.. I feel ill.
=== And according to ths SBS Dateline report...
He died during interrogation in that blood-soaked room.
===A man dies in CIA custody, no record of his imprisonment.
He's obviously been beaten severely in the face.
Sickening.
===The shame of the nation
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are to stand by the president, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." "I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do, because I notice it always coincides with their own desires." - Susan B. Anthony 1896
==546 images of dead Iraqi detainees
Unbelievable. I couldn't look at all the photos, but I'm glad they were finally released. Americans need to know what has been done there, in our name. It's simply horrifying.
==This is what is being done in our name,
and with our money. I am horrified beyond belief. Please, tell me someone, what can we do to get this stopped, and get that man out of office?
I hate to be vengeful, but I have to say it would give me some satisfaction to see the current administration subjected to the same sort of cruelty.
==We have to face the truth.
America must face the truth of what the neoCON republicans have done in the name of America.
"You can never change things by resisting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the old model obsolete." - Buckminster Fuller
===I can here them over at free rethuglic USA USA USA!Support The Troops!
"20 images of a soldier with a Swastika drawn between his eyes"
"I remain cautiously optimistic as we enter the HELL phase of existence" "Terrorism is the best political weapon for nothing drives people harder than a fear of sudden death." -- Adolf Hitler
=These Troops are like Charles Manson
SCUM OF THE EARTH.
THEY ARE WAR CRIMINALS.
LIKE THE NAZIS
===TThe photos are horrific enough - God help us when video w/sound gets out.
The the events that Seymour Hersh spoke of well over a year ago will become believable to a doubtful America.
Maybe THEN Bush can be held responsible and tried for WAR CRIMES along with Gonzo and his other pals.
http://www.verifiedvoting.org /
http://www.911truth.org /
http://halliburtonwatch.org/
===. Brace yourselves, folks...
The worst is still yet to come
=== cant either
I understand completely and just cannot view them any longer. I am so ashamed of our once great nation that torture by * can be so easily dismissed. The man is pure evil and the sooner we're rid of him the better.
Whoever would overthrow the liberty of a nation must begin by subduing the freeness of speech. - Ben Franklin
=On one hand, I refuse to share or accept responsibility for the grotesque
crimes of the neocons. On the other hand, I think that every adult in the U.S. -- certainly every * supporter and war fetishist -- should be compelled to see every last one of these pictures, just as Eisenhower (or was it Patton?) forced the "we-thought-they-were-making-ball-bearings" neighbors of one of the Nazi death camps to "tour" the camp after its liberation. Half of our nation condones these atrocities in principle -- they need to be confronted with the reality in vivid color.
=== agree-these photos stirred a deep anger in me
...especially the one I saw involving a child of about 13-14.I visualized my own sons in that situation,and the fear they must have felt.It was almost too much to bear-but this is what sparks revolutions.
http://www.hopeforhealing.org
====You must.
Every person must be made to bear witness to what has been done in our name. Let your discomfort turn to anger, then use that anger constructively.
==There is video of soldiers raping little boys?==OMG! I can NOT bring myself to view any more of these horrifying,... ,...images. I just,...CAN'T!!!
==i viewed the photos they quite disgusting, but i really don't believe that these are all they have. the unreleased ones have to be worse. notice the timing of their release, when many other "problems" for the admin are being released.
= wonder if they are talking about ALL that they have OR if there are still the videos of the children (that Sy Hersch)) spoke of and which, I believe the German media got access to (or at least viewed and reported on) about a year ago...
Heaven help us... Our country is morally bankrupt. Yes, though to supporting Salon. I will re-up my subscription this weekend.
===Problem is they are so gruesome, I simply cannot view all of them. Those of you who can, give me
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