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Jun 15, 2009
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Nice blog entry, Kate! Indeed, many of us truly are recreational riders, non athletes, achieving something we've never done before. Sodom to Rt. 22 left...
Avram Karel
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Jun 16, 2009
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Ave - I didn't do it, yet, but the runners I am training with swear on an ice bath ... hot shower or bath is a guarantee for very low blood pressure and...
Hagen
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Jun 16, 2009
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Good luck in Nice! You will rock! Kate Marshall 13 North Highland Place Croton on Hudson, NY 10520 617-365-3092...
Katie Marshall
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Jun 16, 2009
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Hagen, Didn't realize where you were going in two weeks. France? What's going on there? And have a great time. Thank you, and Kate, for your advice. I'm...
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Jun 16, 2009
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an Ironman ... there the cramps will linger around after the ride, too - but while I am running a marathon ... BTW - anybody got an idea what a reasonable time...
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Jun 16, 2009
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Hagen, Re: Bear Mountain, from 9W (not the roundabout), I'd guess a respectable solo pace would be <28 minutes. I did repeats of it a few years ago at about...
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Jun 16, 2009
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The 9w to Perkins record is slightly over 18 min. That record was done before the surface was re paved. A good cat 3 racer should be able to hit 20 min. Rob ...
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Jun 16, 2009
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Rob, good catch, you're right. For a ~70kg rider to hit 20minutes, they need to push about 310watts. That would imply a 4.2w/kg FTP, which is high cat 3/low...
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Jun 16, 2009
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ah, so I am not that bad as a swimmer ;) From the traffic light at 9W it took me 21:20 ... (or a flat 20 from the roundabout)....
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9w at the bottom of the hill not the light Still a great time though!! Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry ... From: "Hagen" <hagen@...> Date:...
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You have to work out during the week too. Weekend warriors get cramps. Kate Marshall 13 North Highland Place Croton on Hudson, NY 10520 617-365-3092...
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Jun 16, 2009
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To ride "longer" distances "fast" requires riding longer distances fast. First, those are relative terms. What is long and what is fast for one person may...
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Jun 16, 2009
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I think the issue here is that there are many folks who are not as fast as you and Bruce, but are perfectly capable of completing the double in daylight,...
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Jun 16, 2009
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Katie, I agree. My point on the training rides (and you don't have to do mine, the flings will work, or Nick's, or any ride), is to get your heart rate up and...
Bruce Wells
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Jun 16, 2009
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Glad we all agree. While there are many variations on training, from spin class to hammerfest, the ingredients are pretty basic. But, I think we sometimes...
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Jun 16, 2009
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I've always said C+ riders can do the double. Training just makes it easier. After years of slow long distance training riding, I can say for certain it does...
Bruce Wells
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Jun 16, 2009
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Bruce, nobody on this forum, or anyone that I know of, is saying to train by riding long and slow. Who says that? I have never heard it. RAAM starts today....
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Jun 16, 2009
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I spent all last summer riding long and slow until people like Joe G ("those are trash miles"), Bruce, and my friend Andy told me I was being stupid. I agree...
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Jun 16, 2009
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Lisa, Next year you are doing the double! And do I have a training program for you! Bruce...
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Bruce and Kate and all, Thanks for this good discussion. I'll have to try the grapes. And Bruce, as you now know (with my flat bars, upside down bar ends,...
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Jun 16, 2009
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No, did not see Bob Sunday. He is a strong rider. He rode with us the entire 125, and we had dropped some of the riders who have done brevets! He is an A...
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Jun 16, 2009
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Bruce, Yep, yep. I mostly go aero on straight flat sections, and it's a very nice change of pace. Thanks for the advice. Ave...
Avram Karel
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Jun 16, 2009
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Tom, Funny, your name come up riding with Aaron Sunday. Anyway, I would agree that you have to race distance to race distance, but for the double, I recommend...
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Jun 16, 2009
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Bruce, Very much in agreement with the train hard on shorter distances for one shot double. The people who go on to do the ultramarathon things, like several...
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Jun 17, 2009
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Tom, Sounds about right. I think 50-60 miles is a good distance in general for a ride. 66 miles is 1/3 of a double. A riders tend to do 60-65 on a normal ...
Bruce Wells
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Jun 17, 2009
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NYTimes blog has summary of rat data as well limited human data on endurance benefit of short (very short, sub minute) intensity training. ...
T. Nee
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Jun 24, 2009
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I saw that as well, but apparently the Times is not good on math. They are recommending (correctly) that you do 5-6 intervals each session, 3 sessions a week. ...
Bruce Wells
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Jun 24, 2009
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Six minutes is the length of a HS wrestling match - very intense...
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