Kanaha Park is on the north side of Maui withing walking distance of the
airport.  Kihei is on the South side.

Nord Roi wrote:
> Probably a typo, you mean Kanaha...not Kahana (south west maui)?
> nord_roi
>
> To: NW-WINDTALK@yahoogroups.com
> From: drwind1@...
> Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 18:32:44 -0800
> Subject: Re: hawaii
>
>
>       I would highly recommend Maui ( Maui no ko oi !!! ).. go to HST..Hawiian
Sailboard Techniques...Alan Cadiz runs the shop. A good friend of mine Karen
Bennett may still work there...great instruction for all beginners in Hawaii. 
As you start to learn the jibe...be sure and order his video..."jibing on Maui"
on the HST website. He starts with the basics of jibing to advanced.   Kahana
beach park is the area they teach beginners.
>
>  Any way have a great time and think of us cold boeardheads in Seattle as you
are sailing on the warm waters.
>
>  Dr Wind
>
>

I stayed at kailua a couple years ago.  Rented a unit in a 3 plex. Looking right
at kailua beach park.  Could walk to the gear trailer, rent gear, rig, go sail. 
Beautiful spot.  Plan to rig big due to variable winds.  May want to look up the
shops in advance to reserve gear.  When I was there in may 07 there was only one
trailer with limited choices.  If you go take a walk east to lanakai for a
breathtaking beautiful beach.
Glenn B
Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T

Probably a typo, you mean Kanaha...not Kahana (south west maui)?
nord_roi

To: NW-WINDTALK@yahoogroups.com
From: drwind1@...
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 18:32:44 -0800
Subject: Re: hawaii




























       I would highly recommend Maui ( Maui no ko oi !!! ).. go to HST..Hawiian
Sailboard Techniques...Alan Cadiz runs the shop. A good friend of mine Karen
Bennett may still work there...great instruction for all beginners in Hawaii. 
As you start to learn the jibe...be sure and order his video..."jibing on Maui"
on the HST website. He starts with the basics of jibing to advanced.   Kahana
beach park is the area they teach beginners.



Any way have a great time and think of us cold boeardheads in Seattle as you are
sailing on the warm waters.



Dr Wind







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From: swest54321 <swest54321@...>

Subject: hawaii

To: NW-WINDTALK@yahoogroups.com

Date: Sunday, November 22, 2009, 10:13 PM







Need recommendations on which island and which beach beginner windsurfers can
take lessons and rent gear in Hawaii this spring. Thanks!



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I would highly recommend Maui ( Maui no ko oi !!! ).. go to HST..Hawiian
Sailboard Techniques...Alan Cadiz runs the shop. A good friend of mine Karen
Bennett may still work there...great instruction for all beginners in Hawaii. 
As you start to learn the jibe...be sure and order his video..."jibing on Maui"
on the HST website. He starts with the basics of jibing to advanced.   Kahana
beach park is the area they teach beginners.
 
Any way have a great time and think of us cold boeardheads in Seattle as you are
sailing on the warm waters.
 
Dr Wind
 
 

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From: swest54321 <swest54321@...>
Subject: hawaii
To: NW-WINDTALK@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, November 22, 2009, 10:13 PM


 



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To present an opposing view... 2 years ago we spent a week on Oahu in waimanalo
beach to get married, just south of Kailua (same wind)... problem was there was
no wind during the entire period (last week of May) while there was good wind
the entire time on Maui.  According to guys in the Kailua Naish shop, the wind
there is much less reliable than Maui, and they said I should expect there to be
somewhere around 3 sailable days per week, all of which would be on larger gear.
Maui has a unique wind setup with the venturi between Haleakala and the older
volcanic peak NE of Wailuku that boosts the wind speeds.  Oahu doesn't have this
setup, so the only way you will get sailable wind is during the stronger trades.

If you goal is to learn windsurfing, I would pass on Oahu.  The best spot by far
is bonaire.  We have been there 4x and the place is perfect for learning, though
it is a full travel day to get there (if you go, fly through Houston on
Continental).

Jay

--- In NW-WINDTALK@yahoogroups.com, sharon west <swest54321@...> wrote:
>
> Thank you so much!  I was actually leaning toward Kailua Beach anyhow.  And
I will let you know what we decide, and it it goes.
>
>
> --- On Mon, 11/23/09, HANSENDLJS@... <HANSENDLJS@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: HANSENDLJS@... <HANSENDLJS@...>
> Subject: Re: hawaii
> To: NW-WINDTALK@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, November 23, 2009, 7:22 AM
>
>
> Â
>
>
>
>
> A less conventional approach to windsurf in Hawaii, especially for a beginner.
Go to Kailua at the northeast side of Oahu. It has a great beach, is on on shore
wind in a bay, and there are mobile rental shops with rigged gear ready for
sailing. Maui does not have rigged gear on the beach, you have to rent the gear,
drive it to the beach, rig, derig, etc etc (true at the last time I was there 3
years ago).
>
> You will find Kailua tourist friendly and low key with economical rates (my
opinion).
>
> Another opinion, for a beginner, Bon Aire in the Carribbean is a panacea with
on shore wind, flat water and great equipment with good instruction. Let us know
how you do. Don Hansen
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Baker <firewood2005@ gorge.net>
> To: NW-WINDTALK@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Sun, Nov 22, 2009 10:22 pm
> Subject: Re: hawaii
>
> Recommend Maui at Kanaha Park and lesson from HST.
>
> http://www.hstwinds urfing.com/
>
> I see them giving lessons most days of the week and know 2 of the
> instructors that are highly recommended. There are at least 5 shops that
> rent gear.
>
> You can Google for "Maui windsurf shops" for the other shops..
>
> swest54321 wrote:
> > Need recommendations on which island and which beach beginner windsurfers
can take lessons and rent gear in Hawaii this spring. Thanks!
> >
> >
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4.7 92L. Should have rigged a 5.2 but just bagged out the sail and made it work.
Phillip...

--- In NW-WINDTALK@yahoogroups.com, HANSENDLJS@... wrote:
>
> Where do you sail at Cline Spit? The last time I was there, signs stated no
jet skis or windsurfers. I was at the public ramp. Did I misread? Does anyone
heed the signs? Don Hansen
>
>

Don,

If you stay in the center of the bay, west of the boat ramp, you should be fine
any time of the year.  I have seen the sign you mention, and I believe it refers
to staying out of the northeast section of Dungeness Harbor during winter
months.  The following link provides some information:

http://www.newdungenesslighthouse.com/Graphics/dungenessmap.gif


The important thing to know is that Dungeness Spit itself is closed to boaters
of any kind, all year long.

In fact, if the wind got some North in it, it blows in Kihei...typical trades
N-E will funnel in The Volcano and the West Maui Mountain...when it is more
North than N-E, a 15 kts on the north shore will be at least 10 even more kts in
Kihei. In Fact, it is often windier in Kihei...as for the reef, south swell
happen in summer..and Kihei got some nice break also. Kalama Park can deliver
solide down the line, Sunset is shallow and is a fin eater, but nice side-off
late in the day.., as well as kihei beach(I think this is the name of the first
beach when entering kihei).



nord_roi


To: NW-WINDTALK@yahoogroups.com
From: garyemitchell@...
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 14:07:14 -0800
Subject: RE: hawaii

  There can be good bump and jump sailable wind in Kihei , when it is not
sailable wind on the North shore. But Sailing at Kihei to save drive time
IMHO is not worth it. Kanaha beach park has better beach, access , rigging
area, showers, parking, and has reef breaks/waves. Rental shops are in
Kahului , so if the wind speed doesn't match your rental gear then it's easy
from Kanaha to go back to the shop for sail and board changes. If you hit
it right, there can be good windsurfing in the winter months, but you could
also get days of no sailable wind. Two years ago in February I was skunked
- no sailable winds for two weeks. But if no wind - there are lots of other
activities to do on Maui

Gary

From: NW-WINDTALK@yahoogroups.com [mailto:NW-WINDTALK@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of andventus
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 12:35 PM
To: NW-WINDTALK@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: hawaii

I am planning Maui vacation in December, so was trying to read up all I can
about the island.

I'll be staying in Makena and was planning to w-surf from Kanaha, but Kihei
would much closer place if it works.

From reading iwindsurf forums it stuck in my head, that south part (Makena,
Kihei) is sharkier than Kanaha.

Also one of the colleagues, who was on Maui several times, just told me
that there is runoff from plantations polluting waters of Kihei.

Is it something to watch out for or I am just being paranoid? J

From: NW-WINDTALK@yahoogroups.com <mailto:NW-WINDTALK%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:NW-WINDTALK@yahoogroups.com <mailto:NW-WINDTALK%40yahoogroups.com> ]
On
Behalf Of Nord Roi
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 11:27 AM
To: nw-windtalk@yahoogroups.com <mailto:nw-windtalk%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: hawaii

Don Wrote:

You will find Kailua tourist friendly and low key with economical rates (my
opinion).

Can't agree more, I don't know what happen lately, but I've been to Maui in
2003 for 4 months..than in 2006 for 2 weeks...and the aloha spirit was more
in the book than in real life. People wasn't that much friendly and did not
smile much..but this year, I went for a month in Oct-Nov for a month...and
what a change !! My friend who lived there for over 10 years was out of the
island for over a year and he also went in Nov...and without talking to each
other about that, the first thing he told me was...I don't know what
happen..but gee they were so friendly and they do smile at you?? So, I see a
big positive change in the attitude and this is great. I never been to
Kailua, but Maui is the island for windsurfing. However, Kanaha is not the
best place for learning. It's not shallow, there is often a wind shadow the
first 100 yards and if there is waves, the water can get quite choppy to
uphaul. On a positive not, it is often windy!! I think Kihei is under
estimate for learning how to windsurf, the whater is usually calmer in the
fall to winter months and easier to learn on.

Have fun.
nord_roi
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<mailto:NW-WINDTALK%40yahoogroups.com>
From: swest54321@... <mailto:swest54321%40yahoo.com>
<mailto:swest54321%40yahoo.com>
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 11:15:41 -0800
Subject: Re: hawaii

Thank you so much! I was actually leaning toward Kailua Beach anyhow. And I
will let you know what we decide, and it it goes.

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<HANSENDLJS@... <mailto:HANSENDLJS%40aol.com>
<mailto:HANSENDLJS%40aol.com> > wrote:

From: HANSENDLJS@... <mailto:HANSENDLJS%40aol.com>
<mailto:HANSENDLJS%40aol.com> <HANSENDLJS@...
<mailto:HANSENDLJS%40aol.com>
<mailto:HANSENDLJS%40aol.com> >

Subject: Re: hawaii

To: NW-WINDTALK@yahoogroups.com <mailto:NW-WINDTALK%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:NW-WINDTALK%40yahoogroups.com>

Date: Monday, November 23, 2009, 7:22 AM

A less conventional approach to windsurf in Hawaii, especially for a
beginner. Go to Kailua at the northeast side of Oahu. It has a great beach,
is on on shore wind in a bay, and there are mobile rental shops with rigged
gear ready for sailing. Maui does not have rigged gear on the beach, you
have to rent the gear, drive it to the beach, rig, derig, etc etc (true at
the last time I was there 3 years ago).

You will find Kailua tourist friendly and low key with economical rates (my
opinion).

Another opinion, for a beginner, Bon Aire in the Carribbean is a panacea
with on shore wind, flat water and great equipment with good instruction.
Let us know how you do. Don Hansen

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Tiger sharks are all around the Islands, but relative to the number of
people in the water - very, very few bites.  Just don't bleed or pee in your
wet suit and don't get stranded way outside the reef with a breakdown;
always sail where others are sailing.  I don't know about pollution;  I
guess it could be more polluted in Kihei ,  but I have not noticed it.



There can be good bump and jump sailable wind in Kihei , when it is not
sailable wind on the North shore.  But Sailing at Kihei to save drive time
IMHO is not worth it.   Kanaha beach park has better beach, access , rigging
area, showers, parking,  and has reef breaks/waves.   Rental shops are in
Kahului , so if the wind speed doesn't match your rental gear then it's easy
from Kanaha to go back to the shop for sail and board changes.  If you hit
it right, there can be good windsurfing in the winter months, but you could
also get days of no sailable wind.  Two years ago in February I was skunked
- no sailable winds for two weeks.  But if no wind - there are lots of other
activities to do on Maui



Gary





From: NW-WINDTALK@yahoogroups.com [mailto:NW-WINDTALK@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of andventus
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 12:35 PM
To: NW-WINDTALK@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: hawaii





I am planning Maui vacation in December, so was trying to read up all I can
about the island.

I'll be staying in Makena and was planning to w-surf from Kanaha, but Kihei
would much closer place if it works.

From reading iwindsurf forums it stuck in my head, that south part (Makena,
Kihei) is sharkier than Kanaha.

Also one of the colleagues, who was on Maui several times, just told me
that there is runoff from plantations polluting waters of Kihei.

Is it something to watch out for or I am just being paranoid? J

From: NW-WINDTALK@yahoogroups.com <mailto:NW-WINDTALK%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:NW-WINDTALK@yahoogroups.com <mailto:NW-WINDTALK%40yahoogroups.com> ]
On
Behalf Of Nord Roi
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 11:27 AM
To: nw-windtalk@yahoogroups.com <mailto:nw-windtalk%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: hawaii

Don Wrote:

You will find Kailua tourist friendly and low key with economical rates (my
opinion).

Can't agree more, I don't know what happen lately, but I've been to Maui in
2003 for 4 months..than in 2006 for 2 weeks...and the aloha spirit was more
in the book than in real life. People wasn't that much friendly and did not
smile much..but this year, I went for a month in Oct-Nov for a month...and
what a change !! My friend who lived there for over 10 years was out of the
island for over a year and he also went in Nov...and without talking to each
other about that, the first thing he told me was...I don't know what
happen..but gee they were so friendly and they do smile at you?? So, I see a
big positive change in the attitude and this is great. I never been to
Kailua, but Maui is the island for windsurfing. However, Kanaha is not the
best place for learning. It's not shallow, there is often a wind shadow the
first 100 yards and if there is waves, the water can get quite choppy to
uphaul. On a positive not, it is often windy!! I think Kihei is under
estimate for learning how to windsurf, the whater is usually calmer in the
fall to winter months and easier to learn on.

Have fun.
nord_roi
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<mailto:NW-WINDTALK%40yahoogroups.com>
From: swest54321@... <mailto:swest54321%40yahoo.com>
<mailto:swest54321%40yahoo.com>
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 11:15:41 -0800
Subject: Re: hawaii

Thank you so much! I was actually leaning toward Kailua Beach anyhow. And I
will let you know what we decide, and it it goes.

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<mailto:HANSENDLJS%40aol.com>
<HANSENDLJS@... <mailto:HANSENDLJS%40aol.com>
<mailto:HANSENDLJS%40aol.com> > wrote:

From: HANSENDLJS@... <mailto:HANSENDLJS%40aol.com>
<mailto:HANSENDLJS%40aol.com> <HANSENDLJS@...
<mailto:HANSENDLJS%40aol.com>
<mailto:HANSENDLJS%40aol.com> >

Subject: Re: hawaii

To: NW-WINDTALK@yahoogroups.com <mailto:NW-WINDTALK%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:NW-WINDTALK%40yahoogroups.com>

Date: Monday, November 23, 2009, 7:22 AM

A less conventional approach to windsurf in Hawaii, especially for a
beginner. Go to Kailua at the northeast side of Oahu. It has a great beach,
is on on shore wind in a bay, and there are mobile rental shops with rigged
gear ready for sailing. Maui does not have rigged gear on the beach, you
have to rent the gear, drive it to the beach, rig, derig, etc etc (true at
the last time I was there 3 years ago).

You will find Kailua tourist friendly and low key with economical rates (my
opinion).

Another opinion, for a beginner, Bon Aire in the Carribbean is a panacea
with on shore wind, flat water and great equipment with good instruction.
Let us know how you do. Don Hansen

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There is a part of murky water, from the first condos to Cam Park 3..roughly.
But the firt beach is crystal clear wate, I suggest that beach over Kalama Pak
if you are afraid of Sharks.

nord_ro



To: NW-WINDTALK@yahoogroups.com
From: andventus@...
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 12:34:34 -0800
Subject: RE: hawaii





I am planning Maui vacation in December, so was trying to read up all I can
about the island.

I'll be staying in Makena and was planning to w-surf from Kanaha, but Kihei
would much closer place if it works.

From reading iwindsurf forums it stuck in my head, that south part (Makena,
Kihei) is sharkier than Kanaha.

Also one of the colleagues, who was on Maui several times, just told me
that there is runoff from plantations polluting waters of Kihei.

Is it something to watch out for or I am just being paranoid? J

From: NW-WINDTALK@yahoogroups.com [mailto:NW-WINDTALK@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Nord Roi
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 11:27 AM
To: nw-windtalk@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: hawaii

Don Wrote:

You will find Kailua tourist friendly and low key with economical rates (my
opinion).

Can't agree more, I don't know what happen lately, but I've been to Maui in
2003 for 4 months..than in 2006 for 2 weeks...and the aloha spirit was more
in the book than in real life. People wasn't that much friendly and did not
smile much..but this year, I went for a month in Oct-Nov for a month...and
what a change !! My friend who lived there for over 10 years was out of the
island for over a year and he also went in Nov...and without talking to each
other about that, the first thing he told me was...I don't know what
happen..but gee they were so friendly and they do smile at you?? So, I see a
big positive change in the attitude and this is great. I never been to
Kailua, but Maui is the island for windsurfing. However, Kanaha is not the
best place for learning. It's not shallow, there is often a wind shadow the
first 100 yards and if there is waves, the water can get quite choppy to
uphaul. On a positive not, it is often windy!! I think Kihei is under
estimate for learning how to windsurf, the whater is usually calmer in the
fall to winter months and easier to learn on.

Have fun.
nord_roi
To: NW-WINDTALK@yahoogroups.com <mailto:NW-WINDTALK%40yahoogroups.com>
From: swest54321@... <mailto:swest54321%40yahoo.com>
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 11:15:41 -0800
Subject: Re: hawaii

Thank you so much! I was actually leaning toward Kailua Beach anyhow. And I
will let you know what we decide, and it it goes.

--- On Mon, 11/23/09, HANSENDLJS@... <mailto:HANSENDLJS%40aol.com>
<HANSENDLJS@... <mailto:HANSENDLJS%40aol.com> > wrote:

From: HANSENDLJS@... <mailto:HANSENDLJS%40aol.com> <HANSENDLJS@...
<mailto:HANSENDLJS%40aol.com> >

Subject: Re: hawaii

To: NW-WINDTALK@yahoogroups.com <mailto:NW-WINDTALK%40yahoogroups.com>

Date: Monday, November 23, 2009, 7:22 AM

A less conventional approach to windsurf in Hawaii, especially for a
beginner. Go to Kailua at the northeast side of Oahu. It has a great beach,
is on on shore wind in a bay, and there are mobile rental shops with rigged
gear ready for sailing. Maui does not have rigged gear on the beach, you
have to rent the gear, drive it to the beach, rig, derig, etc etc (true at
the last time I was there 3 years ago).

You will find Kailua tourist friendly and low key with economical rates (my
opinion).

Another opinion, for a beginner, Bon Aire in the Carribbean is a panacea
with on shore wind, flat water and great equipment with good instruction.
Let us know how you do. Don Hansen

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I am planning Maui vacation in December, so was trying to read up all I can
about the island.

I'll be staying in Makena and was planning to w-surf from Kanaha, but Kihei
would much closer place if it works.

From reading iwindsurf forums it stuck in my head, that south part (Makena,
Kihei) is sharkier than Kanaha.

Also one of the colleagues,  who was on Maui several times, just told me
that there is runoff from plantations polluting waters of Kihei.

Is it something to watch out for or I am just being paranoid? J





From: NW-WINDTALK@yahoogroups.com [mailto:NW-WINDTALK@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Nord Roi
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 11:27 AM
To: nw-windtalk@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: hawaii







Don Wrote:

You will find Kailua tourist friendly and low key with economical rates (my
opinion).

Can't agree more, I don't know what happen lately, but I've been to Maui in
2003 for 4 months..than in 2006 for 2 weeks...and the aloha spirit was more
in the book than in real life. People wasn't that much friendly and did not
smile much..but this year, I went for a month in Oct-Nov for a month...and
what a change !! My friend who lived there for over 10 years was out of the
island for over a year and he also went in Nov...and without talking to each
other about that, the first thing he told me was...I don't know what
happen..but gee they were so friendly and they do smile at you?? So, I see a
big positive change in the attitude and this is great. I never been to
Kailua, but Maui is the island for windsurfing. However, Kanaha is not the
best place for learning. It's not shallow, there is often a wind shadow the
first 100 yards and if there is waves, the water can get quite choppy to
uphaul. On a positive not, it is often windy!! I think Kihei is under
estimate for learning how to windsurf, the whater is usually calmer in the
fall to winter months and easier to learn on.

Have fun.
nord_roi
To: NW-WINDTALK@yahoogroups.com <mailto:NW-WINDTALK%40yahoogroups.com>
From: swest54321@... <mailto:swest54321%40yahoo.com>
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 11:15:41 -0800
Subject: Re: hawaii

Thank you so much! I was actually leaning toward Kailua Beach anyhow. And I
will let you know what we decide, and it it goes.

--- On Mon, 11/23/09, HANSENDLJS@... <mailto:HANSENDLJS%40aol.com>
<HANSENDLJS@... <mailto:HANSENDLJS%40aol.com> > wrote:

From: HANSENDLJS@... <mailto:HANSENDLJS%40aol.com>  <HANSENDLJS@...
<mailto:HANSENDLJS%40aol.com> >

Subject: Re: hawaii

To: NW-WINDTALK@yahoogroups.com <mailto:NW-WINDTALK%40yahoogroups.com>

Date: Monday, November 23, 2009, 7:22 AM

A less conventional approach to windsurf in Hawaii, especially for a
beginner. Go to Kailua at the northeast side of Oahu. It has a great beach,
is on on shore wind in a bay, and there are mobile rental shops with rigged
gear ready for sailing. Maui does not have rigged gear on the beach, you
have to rent the gear, drive it to the beach, rig, derig, etc etc (true at
the last time I was there 3 years ago).

You will find Kailua tourist friendly and low key with economical rates (my
opinion).

Another opinion, for a beginner, Bon Aire in the Carribbean is a panacea
with on shore wind, flat water and great equipment with good instruction.
Let us know how you do. Don Hansen


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If you go this route (Kailua), would you be kind enough to follow up with some
pricing and gear information?
Tnx!

From: NW-WINDTALK@yahoogroups.com [mailto:NW-WINDTALK@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of sharon west
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 11:16 AM
To: NW-WINDTALK@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: hawaii



Thank you so much!  I was actually leaning toward Kailua Beach anyhow.  And I
will let you know what we decide, and it it goes.

--- On Mon, 11/23/09, HANSENDLJS@...<mailto:HANSENDLJS%40aol.com>
<HANSENDLJS@...<mailto:HANSENDLJS%40aol.com>> wrote:

From: HANSENDLJS@...<mailto:HANSENDLJS%40aol.com>
<HANSENDLJS@...<mailto:HANSENDLJS%40aol.com>>
Subject: Re: hawaii
To: NW-WINDTALK@yahoogroups.com<mailto:NW-WINDTALK%40yahoogroups.com>
Date: Monday, November 23, 2009, 7:22 AM



A less conventional approach to windsurf in Hawaii, especially for a beginner.
Go to Kailua at the northeast side of Oahu. It has a great beach, is on on shore
wind in a bay, and there are mobile rental shops with rigged gear ready for
sailing. Maui does not have rigged gear on the beach, you have to rent the gear,
drive it to the beach, rig, derig, etc etc (true at the last time I was there 3
years ago).

You will find Kailua tourist friendly and low key with economical rates (my
opinion).

Another opinion, for a beginner, Bon Aire in the Carribbean is a panacea with on
shore wind, flat water and great equipment with good instruction. Let us know
how you do. Don Hansen

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Baker <firewood2005@ gorge.net>
To: NW-WINDTALK@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Sun, Nov 22, 2009 10:22 pm
Subject: Re: hawaii

Recommend Maui at Kanaha Park and lesson from HST.

http://www.hstwinds urfing.com/

I see them giving lessons most days of the week and know 2 of the
instructors that are highly recommended. There are at least 5 shops that
rent gear.

You can Google for "Maui windsurf shops" for the other shops..

swest54321 wrote:
> Need recommendations on which island and which beach beginner windsurfers can
take lessons and rent gear in Hawaii this spring. Thanks!
>
>
>
> ------------ --------- --------- ------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>

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Don Wrote:

You will find Kailua tourist friendly and low key with economical rates (my
opinion).


Can't agree more, I don't know what happen lately, but I've been to Maui in 2003
for 4 months..than in 2006 for 2 weeks...and the aloha spirit was more in the
book than in real life. People wasn't that much friendly and did not smile
much..but this year, I went for a month in Oct-Nov for a month...and what a
change !!  My friend who lived there for over 10 years was out of the island for
over a year and he also went in Nov...and without talking to each other about
that, the first thing he told me was...I don't know what happen..but gee they
were so friendly and they do smile at you??  So, I see a big positive change in
the attitude and this is great. I never been to Kailua, but Maui is the island
for windsurfing. However, Kanaha is not the best place for learning. It's not
shallow, there is often a wind shadow the first 100 yards and if there is waves,
the water can get quite choppy to uphaul. On a positive not, it is often windy!!
I think Kihei is under estimate for learning how to windsurf, the whater is
usually calmer in the fall to winter months and easier to learn on.

Have fun.
nord_roi
To: NW-WINDTALK@yahoogroups.com
From: swest54321@...
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 11:15:41 -0800
Subject: Re: hawaii




























       Thank you so much!  I was actually leaning toward Kailua Beach anyhow. 
And I will let you know what we decide, and it it goes.



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From: HANSENDLJS@... <HANSENDLJS@...>

Subject: Re: hawaii

To: NW-WINDTALK@yahoogroups.com

Date: Monday, November 23, 2009, 7:22 AM







A less conventional approach to windsurf in Hawaii, especially for a beginner.
Go to Kailua at the northeast side of Oahu. It has a great beach, is on on shore
wind in a bay, and there are mobile rental shops with rigged gear ready for
sailing. Maui does not have rigged gear on the beach, you have to rent the gear,
drive it to the beach, rig, derig, etc etc (true at the last time I was there 3
years ago).



You will find Kailua tourist friendly and low key with economical rates (my
opinion).



Another opinion, for a beginner, Bon Aire in the Carribbean is a panacea with on
shore wind, flat water and great equipment with good instruction. Let us know
how you do. Don Hansen










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Thank you so much!  I was actually leaning toward Kailua Beach anyhow.  And I
will let you know what we decide, and it it goes.


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From: HANSENDLJS@... <HANSENDLJS@...>
Subject: Re: hawaii
To: NW-WINDTALK@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, November 23, 2009, 7:22 AM


 




A less conventional approach to windsurf in Hawaii, especially for a beginner.
Go to Kailua at the northeast side of Oahu. It has a great beach, is on on shore
wind in a bay, and there are mobile rental shops with rigged gear ready for
sailing. Maui does not have rigged gear on the beach, you have to rent the gear,
drive it to the beach, rig, derig, etc etc (true at the last time I was there 3
years ago).

You will find Kailua tourist friendly and low key with economical rates (my
opinion).

Another opinion, for a beginner, Bon Aire in the Carribbean is a panacea with on
shore wind, flat water and great equipment with good instruction. Let us know
how you do. Don Hansen

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Baker <firewood2005@ gorge.net>
To: NW-WINDTALK@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Sun, Nov 22, 2009 10:22 pm
Subject: Re: hawaii

Recommend Maui at Kanaha Park and lesson from HST.

http://www.hstwinds urfing.com/

I see them giving lessons most days of the week and know 2 of the
instructors that are highly recommended. There are at least 5 shops that
rent gear.

You can Google for "Maui windsurf shops" for the other shops..

swest54321 wrote:
> Need recommendations on which island and which beach beginner windsurfers can
take lessons and rent gear in Hawaii this spring. Thanks!
>
>
>
> ------------ --------- --------- ------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>

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A less conventional approach to windsurf in Hawaii, especially for a beginner.
Go to Kailua at the northeast side of Oahu. It has a great beach, is on on shore
wind in a bay, and there are mobile rental shops with rigged gear ready for
sailing. Maui does not have rigged gear on the beach, you have to rent the gear,
drive it to the beach, rig, derig, etc etc (true at the last time I was there 3
years ago).

You will find Kailua tourist friendly and low key with economical rates (my
opinion).

Another opinion, for a beginner, Bon Aire in the Carribbean is a panacea with on
shore wind, flat water and great equipment with good instruction. Let us know
how you do. Don Hansen



-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Baker <firewood2005@...>
To: NW-WINDTALK@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, Nov 22, 2009 10:22 pm
Subject: Re: hawaii




Recommend Maui at Kanaha Park and lesson from HST.

http://www.hstwindsurfing.com/

I see them giving lessons most days of the week and know 2 of the
instructors that are highly recommended. There are at least 5 shops that
rent gear.

You can Google for "Maui windsurf shops" for the other shops..

swest54321 wrote:
> Need recommendations on which island and which beach beginner windsurfers can
take lessons and rent gear in Hawaii this spring. Thanks!
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>






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Where do you sail at Cline Spit? The last time I was there, signs stated no jet
skis or windsurfers. I was at the public ramp. Did I misread? Does anyone heed
the signs? Don Hansen






-----Original Message-----
From: mark_hagar <mark_hagar@...>
To: NW-WINDTALK@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, Nov 22, 2009 9:43 pm
Subject: Cline Spit Sunday




The big westerlies did not punch in as forecast, but it was nice 4.7 and 5.2
90L, from 11 to 2. Just one other kiter.







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I just tried a different computer... still here at work... and yeah, it loaded
and worked great. Maybe this one has Java on it and the other one does not.
Anyway, very cool, I'll play with it at home today. (Still frustrated I didn't
make it all the way around this time, though.) Thanks again.



As far as a write up about it... good idea. What I think is interesting to note
and remember... is the weather conditions and wind conditions of the day. And
the variety of participants and their equipment used. Also - I think Mark D. has
some good info and data about it on his "Long Distance Records" page... and Mark
(or others) have written about some of the rounding's that were done by himself
and others (Mark L. and Pepi, for example)... during the years that I wasn't
involved. And Wright W. and I might remember (and others that may still be
around, that read Windtalk, but rarely post)... anyway, we might remember some
of the details of the first "Official Winduro". So... a little historical
perspective might be interesting also.



Greg -





> To: NW-WINDTALK@yahoogroups.com
> From: michal@...
> Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 19:39:58 -0800
> Subject: Re: Winduro GPS tracks uploaded
>
> GPS action replay is a Java Applet, and it may take some time to load -
> first to load the applet, then the maps, then the tracks. I tested it and it
> loads, though there are occasional delays/hangups.
>
> Try it at home and let me know how it worked out. If someone wants to submit
> a short write up of the Winduro (either 2008 or 2009) I can add that. It
> would be nice to get an official Winduro web site. Someone already has the
> winduro.com domain name (though no web site) but miwinduro.com is still
> available :-)
>
> Michal
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 7:21 PM, Mike Baker <firewood2005@...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > It worked for me. It did take a few minutes. Firefox said the loading
> > was done with a blank window but then the map appeared and finally the
> > GPS tracks.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >
> > Greg Mejlaender wrote:
> > > Thanks Michal -
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > However is this link working?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Maybe it's cause I'm at work... and these computers won't allow it. But,
> > is this working for anybody else?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I will try it at home tomorrow.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks for the effort, Greg
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > To: NW-WINDTALK@yahoogroups.com <NW-WINDTALK%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > From: michal@... <michal%40theprussaks.com>
> > > Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 10:38:43 -0800
> > > Subject: Winduro GPS tracks uploaded
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I have uploaded the 2009 Winduro GPS tracks to my web site. I also
> > > added tracks from my rounding earlier this year, and from my Halloween
> > > incomplete attempt:
> > >
> > > http://www.theprussaks.com/windsurfing/
> > >
> > > I only have 2 tracks from 2009 - I did not have my GPS for the Winduro
> > > - did anyone else have a GPS track that you want to send to me?
> > >
> > > Michal
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > __________________________________________________________
> > > Bing brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place.
> > >
> >
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RP_Local_MapsMenu_Resturants_1x1
> > >
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> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> >
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Recommend Maui at Kanaha Park and lesson from HST.

http://www.hstwindsurfing.com/

I see them giving lessons most days of the week and know 2 of the
instructors that are highly recommended. There are at least 5 shops that
rent gear.

You can Google for "Maui windsurf shops" for the other shops..


swest54321 wrote:
> Need recommendations on which island and which beach beginner windsurfers can
take lessons and rent gear in Hawaii this spring.  Thanks!
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>

Need recommendations on which island and which beach beginner windsurfers can
take lessons and rent gear in Hawaii this spring.  Thanks!

The big westerlies did not punch in as forecast, but it was nice 4.7 and 5.2
90L, from 11 to 2.    Just one other kiter.

GPS action replay is a Java Applet, and it may take some time to load -
first to load the applet, then the maps, then the tracks. I tested it and it
loads, though there are occasional delays/hangups.

Try it at home and let me know how it worked out. If someone wants to submit
a short write up of the Winduro (either 2008 or 2009) I can add that. It
would be nice to get an official Winduro web site. Someone already has the
winduro.com domain name (though no web site) but miwinduro.com is still
available :-)

Michal


On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 7:21 PM, Mike Baker <firewood2005@...> wrote:

>
>
> It worked for me. It did take a few minutes. Firefox said the loading
> was done with a blank window but then the map appeared and finally the
> GPS tracks.
>
> Mike
>
>
> Greg Mejlaender wrote:
> > Thanks Michal -
> >
> >
> >
> > However is this link working?
> >
> >
> >
> > Maybe it's cause I'm at work... and these computers won't allow it. But,
> is this working for anybody else?
> >
> >
> >
> > I will try it at home tomorrow.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks for the effort, Greg
> >
> >
> >
> > To: NW-WINDTALK@yahoogroups.com <NW-WINDTALK%40yahoogroups.com>
> > From: michal@... <michal%40theprussaks.com>
> > Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 10:38:43 -0800
> > Subject: Winduro GPS tracks uploaded
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I have uploaded the 2009 Winduro GPS tracks to my web site. I also
> > added tracks from my rounding earlier this year, and from my Halloween
> > incomplete attempt:
> >
> > http://www.theprussaks.com/windsurfing/
> >
> > I only have 2 tracks from 2009 - I did not have my GPS for the Winduro
> > - did anyone else have a GPS track that you want to send to me?
> >
> > Michal
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > __________________________________________________________
> > Bing brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place.
> >
>
http://www.bing.com/search?q=restaurants&form=MFESRP&publ=WLHMTAG&crea=TEXT_MFES\
RP_Local_MapsMenu_Resturants_1x1
> >
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> >
> >
> >
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It worked for me. It did take a few minutes. Firefox said the loading
was done with a blank window but then the map appeared and finally the
GPS tracks.

Mike

Greg Mejlaender wrote:
> Thanks Michal -
>
>
>
> However is this link working?
>
>
>
> Maybe it's cause I'm at work... and these computers won't allow it. But, is
this working for anybody else?
>
>
>
> I will try it at home tomorrow.
>
>
>
> Thanks for the effort,  Greg
>
>
>
> To: NW-WINDTALK@yahoogroups.com
> From: michal@...
> Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 10:38:43 -0800
> Subject: Winduro GPS tracks uploaded
>
>
>
>
>
> I have uploaded the 2009 Winduro GPS tracks to my web site. I also
> added tracks from my rounding earlier this year, and from my Halloween
> incomplete attempt:
>
> http://www.theprussaks.com/windsurfing/
>
> I only have 2 tracks from 2009 - I did not have my GPS for the Winduro
> - did anyone else have a GPS track that you want to send to me?
>
> Michal
>
>
>
>
> _________________________________________________________________
> Bing brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place.
>
http://www.bing.com/search?q=restaurants&form=MFESRP&publ=WLHMTAG&crea=TEXT_MFES\
RP_Local_MapsMenu_Resturants_1x1
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>

Thanks Michal -



However is this link working?



Maybe it's cause I'm at work... and these computers won't allow it. But, is this
working for anybody else?



I will try it at home tomorrow.



Thanks for the effort,  Greg



To: NW-WINDTALK@yahoogroups.com
From: michal@...
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 10:38:43 -0800
Subject: Winduro GPS tracks uploaded





I have uploaded the 2009 Winduro GPS tracks to my web site. I also
added tracks from my rounding earlier this year, and from my Halloween
incomplete attempt:

http://www.theprussaks.com/windsurfing/

I only have 2 tracks from 2009 - I did not have my GPS for the Winduro
- did anyone else have a GPS track that you want to send to me?

Michal




_________________________________________________________________
Bing brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place.
http://www.bing.com/search?q=restaurants&form=MFESRP&publ=WLHMTAG&crea=TEXT_MFES\
RP_Local_MapsMenu_Resturants_1x1

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

I have uploaded the 2009 Winduro GPS tracks to my web site. I also
added tracks from my rounding earlier this year, and from my Halloween
incomplete attempt:

http://www.theprussaks.com/windsurfing/

I only have 2 tracks from 2009 - I did not have my GPS for the Winduro
- did anyone else have a GPS track that you want to send to me?

Michal

High tide is about 10am this morning so the out going currents will be opposite
the winds.  I am going to get there around 11AM.

--Glenn R.

EAST ENTRANCE U.S. WATERS STRAIT OF JUAN DE FUCA-
900 AM PST SUN NOV 22 2009

...GALE WARNING IN EFFECT UNTIL 4 PM PST THIS AFTERNOON...
TODAY...WIND BECOMING W 35 TO 45 KT BY LATE MORNING...THEN EASING AND BECOMING
NW IN THE AFTERNOON. WIND WAVES BUILDING TO 7 TO 9 FT...THEN SUBSIDING.
SHOWERS...DECREASING IN THE AFTERNOON.

John, are you sailing with gloves/mitts?



The air is supposedly 42F at 9am and gets to 46F by 1pm.  Temperatures below
50 are outside of my comfort zone, but 46 is better than 42 J





From: NW-WINDTALK@yahoogroups.com [mailto:NW-WINDTALK@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of wishing4wind
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 9:32 PM
To: NW-WINDTALK@yahoogroups.com
Subject: NewCastle Sunday Morning





High tide and south wind at DesMoines Sunday morning and I don't like that
combination there so I'm thinking about some 9AM sailin at NewCastle. The
saturday evening forcast for south sound looks promising.
.SUN...SW WIND RISING TO 20 TO 30 KT BY MIDMORNING...EXCEPT BECOMING NW 5 TO
15 KT OVER THE N SOUND. WIND WAVES 2 TO 5 FT...EXCEPT SUBSIDING OVER THE N
SOUND. A CHANCE OF SHOWERS.
Hope it happens.
- John M.





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High tide and south wind at DesMoines Sunday morning and I don't like that
combination there so I'm thinking about some 9AM sailin at NewCastle. The
saturday evening forcast for south sound looks promising.
  .SUN...SW WIND RISING TO 20 TO 30 KT BY MIDMORNING...EXCEPT BECOMING  NW 5 TO
15 KT OVER THE N SOUND. WIND WAVES 2 TO 5 FT...EXCEPT SUBSIDING OVER THE N
SOUND. A CHANCE OF SHOWERS.
Hope it happens.
-  John M.

Short session, sailed 4.2/90 L from 3 to 4 pm.  Big-time westerlies forecast for
tomorrow, Sunday 11-22.

Got an hour of massively OPd 6.7m/101L/34 where a 4.7m would have been more
appropriate, except for the fact the 6.7m was already rigged and darkness was
fast approaching.  I've been very impressed with the 6.7 (northwave '09 model
511) ability to handle such OPd conditions.  Less impressed with the 34cm drake
fin that came with the starboard futura 101L which has spin-out tendencies
(though the board is great).  Considering a different smaller (select perhaps)
fin if anybody has recommendations.  In-spite of the OPd session made nearly all
jibes and am happy now.

To search4wind and harness line failure... I've observed pre-failure signs in
dakine lines with small sand-like particles (dis-integrated line fibers)
observed under the clear line tubing...  When I have dis-mantled such lines I
discovered they were badly worn and pro-actively replaced them.

Jay

Started with a 6.2 92 L, ended with a 4.2, 77L. It was still coming up when I
left. Snapped a harness line halfway across. It was a lot of work coming back
in. Instead of going home to grab another line I used two outhaul lines wrapped
around eachother and tied them on, worked quite well. I'm putting an outhaul
line in my impact vest pocket in case that happens again. Phillip........