Hi All,



Heidi and I were discussing the Wayland Invitational last evening regarding fund

raising for Curtis Jr Cottengim and 4 Paws for Ability.  Heidi had some ideas

for fundraising as part of the event.  For example, items could be raffled. 

Just about anything from donated products from local retailers to pure junk

(souvenir race carnage parts).  Remember it's for a cause!  Also, rides around

the block could be sold (or given with a donation) in some of the mouthwatering

EV's that will be on hand.  Or, even offer photo ops for people standing next to

their favorite EV drag vehicle and or vehicle owner / driver for a donation. 

Lots of possibilities here!



Heidi and our friend Revin Kevin organized the Red River Fiero Ruckus for 2006. 

The event sponsored the Austin Smiles organization.  It's a group of doctors

that provide free cranial surgery for children with severe birth defects who

can't afford the required surgery.  The event was a major success, both in the

fun level and fund raising.



Just some food for thought!



See Ya there!



Ken & Heidi

How about a famous Jim Husted motor to raffle off?



Not sure if Jim has the time or if he is overwhelmed but that is

something that raises some money and gets Jim some publicity for his

fantastic motor work.



Chip



On Jul 9, 2009, at 9:07 PM, kenscircus wrote:



>

>

> Hi All,

>

> Heidi and I were discussing the Wayland Invitational last evening

> regarding fund raising for Curtis Jr Cottengim and 4 Paws for

> Ability. Heidi had some ideas for fundraising as part of the event.

> For example, items could be raffled. Just about anything from

> donated products from local retailers to pure junk (souvenir race

> carnage parts). Remember it's for a cause! Also, rides around the

> block could be sold (or given with a donation) in some of the

> mouthwatering EV's that will be on hand. Or, even offer photo ops

> for people standing next to their favorite EV drag vehicle and or

> vehicle owner / driver for a donation. Lots of possibilities here!

>

> Heidi and our friend Revin Kevin organized the Red River Fiero

> Ruckus for 2006. The event sponsored the Austin Smiles

> organization. It's a group of doctors that provide free cranial

> surgery for children with severe birth defects who can't afford the

> required surgery. The event was a major success, both in the fun

> level and fund raising.

>

> Just some food for thought!

>

> See Ya there!

>

> Ken & Heidi

>

>

>

>

Yep, a Husted motor would be a major item!



I was also thinking of lots of smaller things that require little or no expense

or effort.  A piece of copper shrapnel, melted terminal, partially vaporized

contactor or chunk of melted rubber from a favorite drag vehicle would make a

great souvenir that would be very easy to raffle.  I'm talking about a high

volume of items that raffle very cheap.  That gets more people involved because

it isn't something they would use.  Raffling things like that is also great fun

because it involves a sense of humor and has a story. Racing may be serious

business, but a little silly fun has its benefits as well!  :)



Enjoy!



Ken T.











--- In NEDRA@yahoogroups.com, Chip Gribben <futurev@...> wrote:

>

> How about a famous Jim Husted motor to raffle off?

>

> Not sure if Jim has the time or if he is overwhelmed but that is

> something that raises some money and gets Jim some publicity for his

> fantastic motor work.

>

> Chip

>

> On Jul 9, 2009, at 9:07 PM, kenscircus wrote:

>

> >

> >

> > Hi All,

> >

> > Heidi and I were discussing the Wayland Invitational last evening

> > regarding fund raising for Curtis Jr Cottengim and 4 Paws for

> > Ability. Heidi had some ideas for fundraising as part of the event.

> > For example, items could be raffled. Just about anything from

> > donated products from local retailers to pure junk (souvenir race

> > carnage parts). Remember it's for a cause! Also, rides around the

> > block could be sold (or given with a donation) in some of the

> > mouthwatering EV's that will be on hand. Or, even offer photo ops

> > for people standing next to their favorite EV drag vehicle and or

> > vehicle owner / driver for a donation. Lots of possibilities here!

> >

> > Heidi and our friend Revin Kevin organized the Red River Fiero

> > Ruckus for 2006. The event sponsored the Austin Smiles

> > organization. It's a group of doctors that provide free cranial

> > surgery for children with severe birth defects who can't afford the

> > required surgery. The event was a major success, both in the fun

> > level and fund raising.

> >

> > Just some food for thought!

> >

> > See Ya there!

> >

> > Ken & Heidi

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

--- In NEDRA@yahoogroups.com, "kenscircus" <kenscircus@...> wrote:

> Yep, a Husted motor would be a major item!



Hey all



I'll try and bang one together but can't believe we're half way through July

already!  I've been telling myself I better get going on one but have been

limited in time, energy and money to start one.  I've been working on the mini

chopper and have it built but was hoping to tear it all down for painting but

looks like it'll have to go naked 8^o



FT had a Kostov take a dive on him so he's loading up (as we speak)for a weekend

trip down to the shop where we'll be frankenstiening up an ADC/Kostov mutant to

see if we can get him ready for the event.  Knowing FT, he'll be working me like

a dog all weekend so I'm going to be really pressed to bang something out by

then but will try.  If nothing else, I'll bring out some odds and ends like

Fusa-fab, Nomex, maybe some AC-46 insulation spray for the DIY'ers out there. 

What do you think a blown armature would go for 8^o  Maybe a Wayland hall of

Flame brush ring?



Anyway, I'm not sure what I can commit to, but I'll bring out something to throw

in the kitty.

Jim

I'd like a Husted Motor in kit form. All the pieces in a box, ready

for me to put together. Kinda makes it personal.





On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 9:26 AM,

hi_torque_electric<hi_torque_electric@...> wrote:

>

>

> --- In NEDRA@yahoogroups.com, "kenscircus" <kenscircus@...> wrote:

>> Yep, a Husted motor would be a major item!

>

> Hey all

>

> I'll try and bang one together but can't believe we're half way through July

> already! I've been telling myself I better get going on one but have been

> limited in time, energy and money to start one. I've been working on the

> mini chopper and have it built but was hoping to tear it all down for

> painting but looks like it'll have to go naked 8^o

>

> FT had a Kostov take a dive on him so he's loading up (as we speak)for a

> weekend trip down to the shop where we'll be frankenstiening up an

> ADC/Kostov mutant to see if we can get him ready for the event. Knowing FT,

> he'll be working me like a dog all weekend so I'm going to be really pressed

> to bang something out by then but will try. If nothing else, I'll bring out

> some odds and ends like Fusa-fab, Nomex, maybe some AC-46 insulation spray

> for the DIY'ers out there. What do you think a blown armature would go for

> 8^o Maybe a Wayland hall of Flame brush ring?

>

> Anyway, I'm not sure what I can commit to, but I'll bring out something to

> throw in the kitty.

> Jim

>

>

kenscircus wrote:



> A piece of copper shrapnel, melted terminal, partially

> vaporized contactor or chunk of melted rubber from a favorite drag vehicle

> would make a great souvenir that would be very easy to raffle.



This is a great idea and reminds me of many years ago at the

Winternationals in Pomona when Shirley Muldowney's kids were little

and she used to destroy the motor on almost every run in order to win

in Top Fuel.



The little kids had a box of burned pistons they would sell to the

fans for $5 each  :^D





On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 5:22 AM, kenscircus<kenscircus@...> wrote:

>

>

> Yep, a Husted motor would be a major item!

>

> I was also thinking of lots of smaller things that require little or no

> expense or effort. A piece of copper shrapnel, melted terminal, partially

> vaporized contactor or chunk of melted rubber from a favorite drag vehicle

> would make a great souvenir that would be very easy to raffle. I'm talking

> about a high volume of items that raffle very cheap. That gets more people

> involved because it isn't something they would use. Raffling things like

> that is also great fun because it involves a sense of humor and has a story.

> Racing may be serious business, but a little silly fun has its benefits as

> well! :)

>

> Enjoy!

>

> Ken T.

>

> --- In NEDRA@yahoogroups.com, Chip Gribben <futurev@...> wrote:

>>

>> How about a famous Jim Husted motor to raffle off?

>>

>> Not sure if Jim has the time or if he is overwhelmed but that is

>> something that raises some money and gets Jim some publicity for his

>> fantastic motor work.

>>

>> Chip

>>

>> On Jul 9, 2009, at 9:07 PM, kenscircus wrote:

>>

>> >

>> >

>> > Hi All,

>> >

>> > Heidi and I were discussing the Wayland Invitational last evening

>> > regarding fund raising for Curtis Jr Cottengim and 4 Paws for

>> > Ability. Heidi had some ideas for fundraising as part of the event.

>> > For example, items could be raffled. Just about anything from

>> > donated products from local retailers to pure junk (souvenir race

>> > carnage parts). Remember it's for a cause! Also, rides around the

>> > block could be sold (or given with a donation) in some of the

>> > mouthwatering EV's that will be on hand. Or, even offer photo ops

>> > for people standing next to their favorite EV drag vehicle and or

>> > vehicle owner / driver for a donation. Lots of possibilities here!

>> >

>> > Heidi and our friend Revin Kevin organized the Red River Fiero

>> > Ruckus for 2006. The event sponsored the Austin Smiles

>> > organization. It's a group of doctors that provide free cranial

>> > surgery for children with severe birth defects who can't afford the

>> > required surgery. The event was a major success, both in the fun

>> > level and fund raising.

>> >

>> > Just some food for thought!

>> >

>> > See Ya there!

>> >

>> > Ken & Heidi

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>>

>

>

--- On Fri, 7/10/09, Tim Humphrey <hump@...> wrote:



I'd like a Husted Motor in kit form. All the pieces in a box, ready

for me to put together. Kinda makes it personal.



Hey Tim



That's funny,

I've always wanted a Tim Humphrey motor, fully built and ready to play, so I

didn't have to do any work, LMAO!

Jim

Hell, I wouldn't mind one of them either. Any idea where I could get one. LOL





>

> Hey Tim

>

> That's funny,

> I've always wanted a Tim Humphrey motor, fully built and ready to play, so I

> didn't have to do any work, LMAO!

> Jim

>

I'm chillin' out on the key fob idea for now.



I was pretty pumped up about it but now having second thoughts about

the material to be used since a few people have mentioned, jokingly

of course, that it could possibly be an ingredient for a plasma event.



I have a key fob here that is a red square reflector with a companies

name on it. So we can find some material that will work like

injection molded plastic like Mike suggested.



So we should probably do some more research.  Don't want to short out

anybody's battery pack with NEDRA merchandise :-)



Chip











On Jul 10, 2009, at 6:06 PM, electrabishi@... wrote:



>

>

>

>  Maybe injection molded plastic NEDRA key fobs would be more

> appropriate, no?

>

>

> On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 1:50 PM , rodhower@... wrote:

>

>

>

> I always wanted a Tim Humphrey Jr. drag! ster (fully charged with

> Lithium) with a Jim Husted motor :-)

> Oh, and lets not forget a NEDRA keychain to short out the batteries!

>

> --- On Fri, 7/10/09, Tim Humphrey <hump@evgrin. com> wrote:

>

> From: Tim Humphrey <hump@evgrin. com>

> Subject: Re: [NEDRA] Re: Wayland Invitational fund raising

> To: NEDRA@yahoogroups. com < /FONT>

> Date: Friday, July 10, 2009, 1:46 PM

>

>

> Hell, I wouldn't mind one of them either. Any idea where I could

> get one. LOL

>

> >

> > Hey Tim

> >

> > That's funny,

> > I've always wanted a Tim Humphrey motor, fully built and ready to

> play, so I

> > didn't have to do any work, LMAO!

> > Jim

> >

>

>

>

>

IN the famous words of Margie Thatcher, "Don't go wobbly on us now,

Chip".  I should remind you that the KEY fob will be in the presence of

many METAL keys.  Methinks your fears are unfounded.



I would have zero interest in anything other than metal!



John



Chip Gribben wrote:

> I'm chillin' out on the key fob idea for now.

>

> I was pretty pumped up about it but now having second thoughts about

> the material to be used since a few people have mentioned, jokingly

> of course, that it could possibly be an ingredient for a plasma event.

>

> I have a key fob here that is a red square reflector with a companies

> name on it. So we can find some material that will work like

> injection molded plastic like Mike suggested.

>

> So we should probably do some more research.  Don't want to short out

> anybody's battery pack with NEDRA merchandise :-)

>

> Chip

>

>

>

>

>

> On Jul 10, 2009, at 6:06 PM, electrabishi@... wrote:

>

>>

>>

>>  Maybe injection molded plastic NEDRA key fobs would be more

>> appropriate, no?

>>

>>

>> On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 1:50 PM , rodhower@... wrote:

>>

>>

>>

>> I always wanted a Tim Humphrey Jr. drag! ster (fully charged with

>> Lithium) with a Jim Husted motor :-)

>> Oh, and lets not forget a NEDRA keychain to short out the batteries!

>>

>> --- On Fri, 7/10/09, Tim Humphrey <hump@evgrin. com> wrote:

>>

>> From: Tim Humphrey <hump@evgrin. com>

>> Subject: Re: [NEDRA] Re: Wayland Invitational fund raising

>> To: NEDRA@yahoogroups. com < /FONT>

>> Date: Friday, July 10, 2009, 1:46 PM

>>

>>

>> Hell, I wouldn't mind one of them either. Any idea where I could

>> get one. LOL

>>

>>> Hey Tim

>>>

>>> That's funny,

>>> I've always wanted a Tim Humphrey motor, fully built and ready to

>> play, so I

>>> didn't have to do any work, LMAO!

>>> Jim

>>>

>>

>>

>>

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

> Yahoo! Groups Links

>

>

>

>



--

John DeArmond

Tellico Plains, Occupied TN

http://www.neon-john.com    <-- email from here

http://www.johndearmond.com <-- Best damned Blog on the net

PGP key: wwwkeys.pgp.net: BCB68D77

A device meant to enhance safety in one respect should be designed to

pose the lowest possible safety hazard in all other respects. There

is no _need_ for the fob to be conductive. Non-conductive material

will serve the intended purpose perfectly well.



Race machines have no "key" per se. Generally, on a race machine, the

FOB will be attached to an electrical connector.



On a Jr Dragster, it is quite likely that the driver will often have

the lanyard dangling from their wrist. The fob will be dangling with

it. It would be best to have it non-conductive so that it does not

accidentally become part of a circuit on the race machine.



The very first NEDRA red-triangle fobs were made from red Coroplast.

For sentimental reasons we have one of these original red triangles,

made by hand by Lou Taber, attached to the lanyard of the KillaCycle.

It has made every single pass down the track with the KillaCycle.



Bill Dube'





At 06:38 PM 7/10/2009, you wrote:

>IN the famous words of Margie Thatcher, "Don't go wobbly on us now,

>Chip".  I should remind you that the KEY fob will be in the presence of

>many METAL keys.  Methinks your fears are unfounded.

>

>I would have zero interest in anything other than metal!

>

>John

>

>Chip Gribben wrote:

> > I'm chillin' out on the key fob idea for now.

> >

> > I was pretty pumped up about it but now having second thoughts about

> > the material to be used since a few people have mentioned, jokingly

> > of course, that it could possibly be an ingredient for a plasma event.

> >

> > I have a key fob here that is a red square reflector with a companies

> > name on it. So we can find some material that will work like

> > injection molded plastic like Mike suggested.

> >

> > So we should probably do some more research.  Don't want to short out

> > anybody's battery pack with NEDRA merchandise :-)

> >

> > Chip

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > On Jul 10, 2009, at 6:06 PM, electrabishi@... wrote:

> >

> >>

> >>

> >>  Maybe injection molded plastic NEDRA key fobs would be more

> >> appropriate, no?

> >>

> >>

> >> On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 1:50 PM , rodhower@... wrote:

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> I always wanted a Tim Humphrey Jr. drag! ster (fully charged with

> >> Lithium) with a Jim Husted motor :-)

> >> Oh, and lets not forget a NEDRA keychain to short out the batteries!

> >>

> >> --- On Fri, 7/10/09, Tim Humphrey <hump@evgrin. com> wrote:

> >>

> >> From: Tim Humphrey <hump@evgrin. com>

> >> Subject: Re: [NEDRA] Re: Wayland Invitational fund raising

> >> To: NEDRA@yahoogroups. com < /FONT>

> >> Date: Friday, July 10, 2009, 1:46 PM

> >>

> >>

> >> Hell, I wouldn't mind one of them either. Any idea where I could

> >> get one. LOL

> >>

> >>> Hey Tim

> >>>

> >>> That's funny,

> >>> I've always wanted a Tim Humphrey motor, fully built and ready to

> >> play, so I

> >>> didn't have to do any work, LMAO!

> >>> Jim

> >>>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> > Yahoo! Groups Links

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>--

>John DeArmond

>Tellico Plains, Occupied TN

>http://www.neon-john.com    <-- email from here

>http://www.johndearmond.com <-- Best damned Blog on the net

>PGP key: wwwkeys.pgp.net: BCB68D77

>

>

>------------------------------------

>

>Yahoo! Groups Links

>

>

>

since we're dreaming...



Somebody throw the White Zombie into the raffle pile... ooh, ooh and a

Killacycle too!!



Wait I got it !!  Every featured item on the NEDRA calendar goes into

the raffle hat!



Man, I knew I had a good reason for not finishing my ride. LOL





On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 6:05 PM, <electrabishi@...> wrote:

>

>

> Man you guys are harsh on Jim and his free motors.  No wonder he's so

> skinny, he can't afford to eat.

> Next you'll be asking for him to raffle off his prized mini chopper.

> Better be careful, you might show up to the Invite to be greeted by his

> newly sharpened Spartan Spear ;-P

> Mike

>

> On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 12:04 PM , Tim Humphrey wrote:

>

> I'd like a Husted Motor in kit form. All the pieces in a box, ready

> for me to put together. Kinda makes it personal.

> On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 9:26 AM,

> hi_torque_electric< hi_torque_electric@ yahoo.com> wrote:

>>

>>

>> --- In NEDRA@yahoogroups. com, "kenscircus" <kenscircus@ ...> wrote:

>>> Yep, a Husted motor would be a major item!

>>

>> Hey all

>>

>> I'll try and bang one together but can't believe we're half way through

>> July

>> already! I've been telling myself I better get going on one but have been

>> limited in time, energy and money to start one. I've been working on the

>> mini chopper and have it built but was hoping to tear it all down for

>> painting but looks like it'll have to go naked 8^o

>>

>> FT had a Kostov take a dive on him so he's loading up (as we speak)for a

>> weekend trip down to the shop where we'll be frankenstiening up an

>> ADC/Kostov mutant to see if we can get him ready for the event. Knowing

>> FT,

>> he'll be working me like a dog all weekend so I'm going to be really

>> pressed

>> to bang something out by then but will try. If nothing else, I'll bring

>> out

>> some odds and ends like Fusa-fab, Nomex, maybe some AC-46 insulation spray

>> for the DIY'ers out there. What do you think a blown armature would go for

>> 8^o Maybe a Wayland hall of Flame brush ring?

>>

>> Anyway, I'm not sure what I can commit to, but I'll bring out something to

>> throw in the kitty.

>> Jim

>>

>>

>

>

sue an apology to Ken and the list. I was having some fun and lost

sight of the original intent of this thread, which btw is an excellent

idea!





As I've mentioned before. If there is a raffle at the event, I would

like to participate; but will not be present. I would like to be able

to order and pay for raffle tickets through the NEDRA website; with

the full knowledge that they must be purchased well in advance of the

event.



Is this viable?







On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 6:13 PM, Tim Humphrey<hump@...> wrote:

> since we're dreaming...

>

> Somebody throw the White Zombie into the raffle pile... ooh, ooh and a

> Killacycle too!!

>

> Wait I got it !!  Every featured item on the NEDRA calendar goes into

> the raffle hat!

>

> Man, I knew I had a good reason for not finishing my ride. LOL

>

>

> On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 6:05 PM, <electrabishi@...> wrote:

>>

>>

>> Man you guys are harsh on Jim and his free motors.  No wonder he's so

>> skinny, he can't afford to eat.

>> Next you'll be asking for him to raffle off his prized mini chopper.

>> Better be careful, you might show up to the Invite to be greeted by his

>> newly sharpened Spartan Spear ;-P

>> Mike

>>

>> On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 12:04 PM , Tim Humphrey wrote:

>>

>> I'd like a Husted Motor in kit form. All the pieces in a box, ready

>> for me to put together. Kinda makes it personal.

>> On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 9:26 AM,

>> hi_torque_electric< hi_torque_electric@ yahoo.com> wrote:

>>>

>>>

>>> --- In NEDRA@yahoogroups. com, "kenscircus" <kenscircus@ ...> wrote:

>>>> Yep, a Husted motor would be a major item!

>>>

>>> Hey all

>>>

>>> I'll try and bang one together but can't believe we're half way through

>>> July

>>> already! I've been telling myself I better get going on one but have been

>>> limited in time, energy and money to start one. I've been working on the

>>> mini chopper and have it built but was hoping to tear it all down for

>>> painting but looks like it'll have to go naked 8^o

>>>

>>> FT had a Kostov take a dive on him so he's loading up (as we speak)for a

>>> weekend trip down to the shop where we'll be frankenstiening up an

>>> ADC/Kostov mutant to see if we can get him ready for the event. Knowing

>>> FT,

>>> he'll be working me like a dog all weekend so I'm going to be really

>>> pressed

>>> to bang something out by then but will try. If nothing else, I'll bring

>>> out

>>> some odds and ends like Fusa-fab, Nomex, maybe some AC-46 insulation spray

>>> for the DIY'ers out there. What do you think a blown armature would go for

>>> 8^o Maybe a Wayland hall of Flame brush ring?

>>>

>>> Anyway, I'm not sure what I can commit to, but I'll bring out something to

>>> throw in the kitty.

>>> Jim

>>>

>>>

>>

>>

>

try again...



I would like to issue an apology to Ken and the list. I was having

some fun and lost sight of the original intent of this thread, which

btw is an excellent idea!



  As I've mentioned before. If there is a raffle at the event, I would

like to participate; but will not be present. I would like to be able

to order and pay for raffle tickets through the NEDRA website; with

the full knowledge that they must be purchased well in advance of the

event.



  Is this viable?



Stay Charged!

Hump

Hey Tim,



This is indeed viable.



I can always create another PayPal button for a raffle and the funds

would be specifically marked for a raffle.



Of course, that is on top of the other "viable" things I need to get

taken care of.



But yes, we can set up the raffle for Jim's "Mini Motor Dawg

Chopper" :-)



Chip





On Jul 10, 2009, at 6:23 PM, Tim Humphrey wrote:



>

>

> sue an apology to Ken and the list. I was having some fun and lost

> sight of the original intent of this thread, which btw is an excellent

> idea!

>

> As I've mentioned before. If there is a raffle at the event, I would

> like to participate; but will not be present. I would like to be able

> to order and pay for raffle tickets through the NEDRA website; with

> the full knowledge that they must be purchased well in advance of the

> event.

>

> Is this viable?

>

> On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 6:13 PM, Tim Humphrey<hump@...> wrote:

> > since we're dreaming...

> >

> > Somebody throw the White Zombie into the raffle pile... ooh, ooh

> and a

> > Killacycle too!!

> >

> > Wait I got it !!  Every featured item on the NEDRA calendar goes

> into

> > the raffle hat!

> >

> > Man, I knew I had a good reason for not finishing my ride. LOL

> >

> >

> > On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 6:05 PM, <electrabishi@...> wrote:

> >>

> >>

> >> Man you guys are harsh on Jim and his free motors.  No wonder

> he's so

> >> skinny, he can't afford to eat.

> >> Next you'll be asking for him to raffle off his prized mini

> chopper.

> >> Better be careful, you might show up to the Invite to be greeted

> by his

> >> newly sharpened Spartan Spear ;-P

> >> Mike

> >>

> >> On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 12:04 PM , Tim Humphrey wrote:

> >>

> >> I'd like a Husted Motor in kit form. All the pieces in a box, ready

> >> for me to put together. Kinda makes it personal.

> >> On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 9:26 AM,

> >> hi_torque_electric< hi_torque_electric@ yahoo.com> wrote:

> >>>

> >>>

> >>> --- In NEDRA@yahoogroups. com, "kenscircus" <kenscircus@ ...>

> wrote:

> >>>> Yep, a Husted motor would be a major item!

> >>>

> >>> Hey all

> >>>

> >>> I'll try and bang one together but can't believe we're half way

> through

> >>> July

> >>> already! I've been telling myself I better get going on one but

> have been

> >>> limited in time, energy and money to start one. I've been

> working on the

> >>> mini chopper and have it built but was hoping to tear it all

> down for

> >>> painting but looks like it'll have to go naked 8^o

> >>>

> >>> FT had a Kostov take a dive on him so he's loading up (as we

> speak)for a

> >>> weekend trip down to the shop where we'll be frankenstiening up an

> >>> ADC/Kostov mutant to see if we can get him ready for the event.

> Knowing

> >>> FT,

> >>> he'll be working me like a dog all weekend so I'm going to be

> really

> >>> pressed

> >>> to bang something out by then but will try. If nothing else,

> I'll bring

> >>> out

> >>> some odds and ends like Fusa-fab, Nomex, maybe some AC-46

> insulation spray

> >>> for the DIY'ers out there. What do you think a blown armature

> would go for

> >>> 8^o Maybe a Wayland hall of Flame brush ring?

> >>>

> >>> Anyway, I'm not sure what I can commit to, but I'll bring out

> something to

> >>> throw in the kitty.

> >>> Jim

> >>>

> >>>

> >>

> >>

> >

>

>

>

Hello to All,



Count me as in agreement with John and Rod...metal, not plastic! For

goodness sake, the keys are metal!



See Ya...John



rodhower@... wrote:



>

>

> I'll second that, I like the anodized aluminum, I don't wan't plastic!

> I was just joking about shorting batteries on the Jr. dragster,

> although I would

> buy raffle tickets for one, especially if it had a couple of Spartan

> spears as weapons!

> Keep up the good work Chip!

> Rod

>

> --- On *Fri, 7/10/09, NeonJohn /<jgd@...>/* wrote:

>

>

>     From: NeonJohn <jgd@...>

>     Subject: Re: [NEDRA] Re: Wayland Invitational fund raising

>     To: NEDRA@yahoogroups.com

>     Date: Friday, July 10, 2009, 5:38 PM

>

>     IN the famous words of Margie Thatcher, "Don't go wobbly on us now,

>     Chip". I should remind you that the KEY fob will be in the presence of

>     many METAL keys. Methinks your fears are unfounded.

>

>     I would have zero interest in anything other than metal!

>

>

>

>

It seems like if they are to be metal, then lead would be the choice, no?



Of course not, it's too damn soft, how about copper? That would be

sharp as hell. Of course most likely, quite a bit more costly than

aluminum too.



Nickel?



Oh, O.K. aluminum will do.







On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 10:03 PM, John Wayland<jw@...> wrote:

>

>

> Hello to All,

>

> Count me as in agreement with John and Rod...metal, not plastic! For

> goodness sake, the keys are metal!

>

> See Ya...John

>

> rodhower@... wrote:

>

>>

>>

>> I'll second that, I like the anodized aluminum, I don't wan't plastic!

>> I was just joking about shorting batteries on the Jr. dragster,

>> although I would

>> buy raffle tickets for one, especially if it had a couple of Spartan

>> spears as weapons!

>> Keep up the good work Chip!

>> Rod

>>

>> --- On *Fri, 7/10/09, NeonJohn /<jgd@...>/* wrote:

>>

>>

>> From: NeonJohn <jgd@...>

>> Subject: Re: [NEDRA] Re: Wayland Invitational fund raising

>> To: NEDRA@yahoogroups.com

>> Date: Friday, July 10, 2009, 5:38 PM

>>

>> IN the famous words of Margie Thatcher, "Don't go wobbly on us now,

>> Chip". I should remind you that the KEY fob will be in the presence of

>> many METAL keys. Methinks your fears are unfounded.

>>

>> I would have zero interest in anything other than metal!

>>

>>

>>

>>

>

>

Hi all,



OK, it's settled then. Aluminum it is.



I'm still in discussions with Chuck about the idea.



It sounded like after Jay first mentioned the whole idea to our group

that Chuck could engrave it with the silver image of the aluminum

engraved from the red anodized aluminum but I'm finding out that it's

not that simple and he has to farm it out.



I'm getting tired and not sure if I'm explaining all this right. But

here is Chuck's last message to give you all an idea of where we are

now.



"Chip,



I emailed the supplier and he said that they would be pressing your

logo and lettering into the metal and then filling that in with

color-- probably making a metal stamp with both things on it.  They

can do either black or white but it sounds like silver is out.  I can

check around and try to find someone else to do that aspect of the

project but I am thinking it would add significantly to the cost.

Stamping is quick and easy, whereas cutting out the design is very

time-consuming.  If I can manage to find someone who will engrave it

I am guessing it would add at least $2-3 per piece.



So consider that and let me know if you want me to look around some

more.



Chuck"







I told Chuck in my last email we really prefer the silver effect the

machining will leave after it's engraved from the red anodized

aluminum. We really don't like the black or the white, even if the

image is stamped in.



Whatcha Think?



Chip Gribben













On Jul 10, 2009, at 10:19 PM, Mike Willmon wrote:



>

>

>

> What keys?  I thought everyone was using toggle switches ;-P

>

>

>

> But I’m not against aluminum.  I don’t use my keys to tighten my

> battery posts.

>

>

>

> Mike

>

>

>

> From: NEDRA@yahoogroups.com [mailto:NEDRA@yahoogroups.com] On

> Behalf Of John Wayland

> Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 6:04 PM

> To: NEDRA@yahoogroups.com

> Subject: Re: [NEDRA] Re: Wayland Invitational fund raising

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Hello to All,

>

> Count me as in agreement with John and Rod...metal, not plastic! For

> goodness sake, the keys are metal!

>

> See Ya...John

>

> rodhower@... wrote:

>

> >

> >

> > I'll second that, I like the anodized aluminum, I don't wan't

> plastic!

> > I was just joking about shorting batteries on the Jr. dragster,

> > although I would

> > buy raffle tickets for one, especially if it had a couple of Spartan

> > spears as weapons!

> > Keep up the good work Chip!

> > Rod

> >

> > --- On *Fri, 7/10/09, NeonJohn /<jgd@...>/* wrote:

> >

> >

> > From: NeonJohn <jgd@...>

> > Subject: Re: [NEDRA] Re: Wayland Invitational fund raising

> > To: NEDRA@yahoogroups.com

> > Date: Friday, July 10, 2009, 5:38 PM

> >

> > IN the famous words of Margie Thatcher, "Don't go wobbly on us now,

> > Chip". I should remind you that the KEY fob will be in the

> presence of

> > many METAL keys. Methinks your fears are unfounded.

> >

> > I would have zero interest in anything other than metal!

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

Count me as another vote for aluminum. Plastic key fobs just feel cheap.



Paul G.



On Jul 10, 2009, at 7:03 PM, John Wayland wrote:



> Count me as in agreement with John and Rod...metal, not plastic! For

> goodness sake, the keys are metal!

On Jul 11, 2009, at 11:00 AM, Hansi wrote:



> Hi all

> Just wondering if there are any speed boat records electric powered

> (off cause)?



Sorry to be late...Loooooooong racing weekend at Olympia and I'm just

back. Quick notes on that...This is the regatta where we put rookies

into boats for first rides and we did pretty well, getting 40 people

out for their first ride in a racing boat on Friday, and taping a

segment for KIRO TV's Seafair coverage with Chip Hanauer and a few J-

Hydro kids. Also helped Mike Bontoft out with his new toy. Mike's

stepped up to race C-hydroplane to get experience as an aid to

designing future kilo boats.



Anyway, there are a variety of established records and a few open

slots without records. Here's a list of the current fastest  by class

noted by records authourity.



UIM, based in Monaco is the official world authority for powerboating

records, but there are several national records that exceed UIM

records or are fastest because nobody's run for the UIM slot.



Battery Marathon: A class that runs a time distance formula on

limited power (125 lb of Lead acid). Typically marathons are 6 hour,

and the best distance was 72 miles, but no record was ever certified.



Solar: A solar kilo record was actually set in 1992 by Otmar driving

a solar powered outrigger kayak at some 6 to 7 mph. Unfortunately the

crafts owner, Ward Phillips never followed up with submission to UIM.



Solar/battery hybrid: An interesting class begging for mischief.

Nothing in rules demands the solar source be of any minimum size or

be wired into the propulsion system. Open record, No attempt made to

date.



48v Hydroplane: A hydroplane powered at 48v (battery manufacturer's

nominal).

Speed 30.418 mph (APBA) -  Driver, Will Paramore 1997. Helen Loney

has the UIM record, set last November at 13 mph. We'd left the UIM

mark as an open target.



48v Runabout:  A monohull powered at 48v (battery manufacturer's

nominal).

Speed (UIM and APBA) 30.136 mph -  Driver, Fred Saxby 2008.



72v Runabout: A monohull powered at 48v (battery manufacturer's

nominal).

Open record, No attempt made to date.



72v Hydroplane: A hydroplane powered at 72v (battery manufacturer's

nominal).

Speed 49.136 mph -  Driver, Norm Boddy 1997. In the attempt Norm's

first pass was 65 mph, with speed lost due to a steering malfunction.

Norm had to pull steering cables tight with one hand, and ran a huge,

extra distance arc on the return pass that killed speed.



144v Runabout: A monohull powered at 48v (battery manufacturer's

nominal).

Speed 55.914 mph -  Driver, Norm Boddy 1994.



144v Hydroplane: A hydroplane powered at 144v (battery manufacturer's

nominal).

Speed 98.252 mph -  Driver, Mike Bontoft 2008.



I've put up an album titled "Electric WSR Holders" in the photos

section.



John

Count me in agreement with metal.  Aluminum, or even better, tool steel.  :)



As far as tightening battery posts go, I generally tighten mine with a very

conductive tool steel Craftsman ratchet, extension and socket or combination

wrench.  I have never used a plastic wrench.  Besides, my batteries, cabling,

contactors, etc. are not, never will be and none should ever be exposed enough

for a fumbled piece of metal to Murphy into.



As for cost?  If you want something nice - you have to pay for it.  If you want

cheap then cheap is what you get.



This post is mostly poking fun. :) But really, count me in with metal!



Ken T.







--- In NEDRA@yahoogroups.com, Paul <pg@...> wrote:

>

> Count me as another vote for aluminum. Plastic key fobs just feel cheap.

>

> Paul G.

>

> On Jul 10, 2009, at 7:03 PM, John Wayland wrote:

>

> > Count me as in agreement with John and Rod...metal, not plastic! For

> > goodness sake, the keys are metal!

>