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Re: [NEDRA] Re: Horse Power per Pound?

In a message dated 2/18/2007 6:18:27 PM Central Standard Time, Yahoo@... writes:
The present state-of-the-art batteries have some pretty
amazing power-to-weight ratios. This is called "specific power". The
specific power of the A123 Systems cells we use in the KillaCycle is
about 4,000 Watts/kg (at 75 C.) This works out to 11.8 HP/lb. The
next generation of these cells (not in production yet, unfortunately)
are touted to have about 6,000 W/kg (17.7 HP/lb).

Cells this powerful move the weight reduction efforts over to
the motor and controller.

Bill Dube'
http://www.KillaCycle.com

 
 
yeah..I was kinda playing fast and loose with power/energy/whatever terminology....I know the diferrences though I have to ponder for a bit to remember which refers to what...
 
but in any case....when you are putting out nearly 20hp continous with a setup that probably only wieghs a hundred pounds for 30 minutes and might get up to 2 hours ...if you believe the article and video....thats pretty impressive....
 
smaller internal combustion engines for airplanes ...and 2 strokes at that....are doing good if they break somewhere between 1 and 2 pounds per hp....PLUS the fuel....which smaller 2 strokes guzzle down...sounds like this guys set up is getting close to that WITH the "fuel"....and no noise...probably a lot more reliable, cleaner, quieter, smoother, and just plain nicer....and probably with 50 cents worth of electricty versus AT LEAST a couple gallons of gas per hour for something similiar internal combustion wise...
 
and thanks for giving those numbers for your setup!
 
are those specific power levels for a continous drain done over and over for hundreds of cyles or is that for short burst and/or very few cycles?
 
Blll


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Hi guys... New to this forum and have an interest in electric drag racing...but of fairly short times and distances....which makes it much more practical and...
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Jan 18, 2007
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HI- I just found your message in my inbox, I had flaged it for futher attention,and then lost it. things to avoid: go-carts are not allowed for saftey reasons....
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In a message dated 2/12/2007 9:08:37 AM Central Standard Time, crabtrdw@... writes: HI- I just found your message in my inbox, I had flaged it for...
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Hi Bill, I would suggest getting in touch with Jim Husted at Hi-Torque Electric. He's the motor expert and can provide some insight on motor performance. ...
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Feb 12, 2007
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We have been able to get 30 hp to the rear wheel of a motorcycle using a e-tek motor at 22 lbs. Brian Hall Thunderstruck-ev.com Hi Bill, I would suggest...
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Bill, 300-600 pounds could be easily done on a motorcycle. My bike weighs in at about 250 pounds. The Killacycle is 625 pounds, and it's the quickest...
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Feb 13, 2007
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Hp per pound, One can easily do (with an e-tek) 22 lb motor , get 30 hp out , SO over 1 hp per pound. AGM (hawker ep-16)battery might look like this. 12 volt...
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Hi again guys Thanks again for the responses....I ran across this...and I must say I am amazed....and I thought you guys would be interested as well.... ...
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Feb 18, 2007
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... It is important to distinguish between "power" and "energy" when you are talking about batteries. I like to use the "Slurpie analogy" to help folks...
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Feb 19, 2007
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In a message dated 2/18/2007 6:18:27 PM Central Standard Time, Yahoo@... writes: The present state-of-the-The present state-of-the-<W amazing...
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20 HP for 30 minutes works out to about 150 W-Hr/kg. Well within the capabilities of high-quality laptop Li-Ion cells. The numbers I gave for A123 Systems...
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