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Re: [NEDRA] Re: Horse Power per Pound?

Hp per pound, One can easily do (with an e-tek) 22 lb motor , get 30 hp out , SO over 1 hp per pound.
AGM (hawker ep-16)battery might look like this. 12 volt battery sagging down to 6 volts might get 800 amps . 6x800 = 4800 watts / 750 = 6.4 hp per 15 lb battery. or .4 hp per pound....SO we need to improve on battery technology. Brian
 
 

Bill,

300-600 pounds could be easily done on a motorcycle. My bike weighs
in at about 250 pounds. The Killacycle is 625 pounds, and it's the
quickest electric motorcycle on the planet.
A junior dragster might fit that bill also.
Personally I like the motorcycle becasue you don't need extra
support tools like:
Large Tandem Trailer
Lift/Jack/Jackstands
Engine Hoist/Chain fall
Or as much space in your garage.

See what other guys are doing in the NEDRA records for an idea of
what it takes.

Darin
BadFishRacing

--- In NEDRA@yahoogroups.com, BllFs6@... wrote:
>
> Hi guys...
>
> New to this forum and have an interest in electric drag
racing...but of
> fairly short times and distances....which makes it much more
practical and safe
> and cheaper as well...
>
> Lets take a a pretty small vehicle...something along the lines of
300 to 600
> pounds..so thats something like a small bike or go kart like
vehicle with
> one person in it...
>
> Now, we want to accelerate as fast as we can with say a top speed
of 40 mph
> plus or minus 15 or so...
>
> Now. I can do the calculations for energy requirements etc etc but
what I
> really dont have a handle on is what is achievable with todays
technology at
> reasonable costs...
>
> So, I guess my 2 main questions are:
>
> 1 If you run an electric motor at really high power for only a
few
> seconds....and allow a long cool down time...or maybe even some
sort of active quench
> cooling...how many HP per pound can you get out of one?
>
> 2 The batteries...again a really short duration power burst as
above...how
> many amps/volts/watts per pound can you suck out em for such a
short time with
> a LONG pause between burst before you'll start to damage them
significantly?
>
> So, questions one and two really combine to answer the REAL
question which
> is how many HP per pound can you get out of a electric
motor/battery system
> for a few seconds? Also of interest would be how many HP per
DOLLAR for the
> same set up...
>
> Thanks in advance for any info
>
> BLLL
>



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Hi guys... New to this forum and have an interest in electric drag racing...but of fairly short times and distances....which makes it much more practical and...
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Jan 18, 2007
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HI- I just found your message in my inbox, I had flaged it for futher attention,and then lost it. things to avoid: go-carts are not allowed for saftey reasons....
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In a message dated 2/12/2007 9:08:37 AM Central Standard Time, crabtrdw@... writes: HI- I just found your message in my inbox, I had flaged it for...
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Hi Bill, I would suggest getting in touch with Jim Husted at Hi-Torque Electric. He's the motor expert and can provide some insight on motor performance. ...
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Feb 12, 2007
3:41 pm

We have been able to get 30 hp to the rear wheel of a motorcycle using a e-tek motor at 22 lbs. Brian Hall Thunderstruck-ev.com Hi Bill, I would suggest...
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Bill, 300-600 pounds could be easily done on a motorcycle. My bike weighs in at about 250 pounds. The Killacycle is 625 pounds, and it's the quickest...
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Feb 13, 2007
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Hp per pound, One can easily do (with an e-tek) 22 lb motor , get 30 hp out , SO over 1 hp per pound. AGM (hawker ep-16)battery might look like this. 12 volt...
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Hi again guys Thanks again for the responses....I ran across this...and I must say I am amazed....and I thought you guys would be interested as well.... ...
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Feb 18, 2007
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... It is important to distinguish between "power" and "energy" when you are talking about batteries. I like to use the "Slurpie analogy" to help folks...
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Feb 19, 2007
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In a message dated 2/18/2007 6:18:27 PM Central Standard Time, Yahoo@... writes: The present state-of-the-The present state-of-the-<W amazing...
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Feb 19, 2007
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20 HP for 30 minutes works out to about 150 W-Hr/kg. Well within the capabilities of high-quality laptop Li-Ion cells. The numbers I gave for A123 Systems...
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