interesting pics of the BC Special. the only thing that LOOKS odd to me is the
hammer. it seems to be a little long and straight and left a little bit hanging
out in there in space compared to the NAA hammers,

do they have a website so i can learn more about their pistols?
thanks - chriS

okay.......i TOO carry a mini 22LR 1 1/8" barrel in a holster grip that i
modified....SLIGHTLY

by slightly....i mean i used a dremel tool to cut a little relief into the
plastic piece that crosses under the ejector pin. i did this just enough so that
the front sight blade was just flush with the top edge of the holster. this
along with using a 1 1/8" barrel means that the whole front of the package
presents a rather smooth, snag-free front end of the holstered and pocketed
firearm.

the only difference between the standard mini that came with the holster and the
1 1/8" model i put in is that the hammer on the original has a slight bob to the
hammer but i do not notice the hammer being too long when fully cocked.

if anyone from NAA is trolling this group....the only "problem" i have with the
holster is that after a lot of use. the lock-up button now has a little wear
wiggle. so when the gun is deployed and fully cocked, the pressure of cocking
causes the gun to rock backwards about 1.5mm and then when you begin to pull the
trigger, the finger pressure causes the gun to rotate downward the same amount
before the trigger actually pulls. this play can be removed by lightly pushing
up on the tail of the hammer with the thumb of your shooting hand.

of COURSE this will be a non-factor in an actual situation and the close range
this gun is meant for....but it is a bit disconcerting when you are just out can
plinking at more than 20' when that 1.5mm makes a MUCH bigger difference.

NOW ON TO THE SAFETY NOTCHES......

i carry my mini almost exclusively clipped inside of my front pocket so that it
looks like i am carrying a pager. i almost ALWAYS wear carpenter jeans with
deep, wide pockets and any other way of holstering a mini would place it to low
and hard to get to for my tastes.

i myself have never had a problem with it moving off the safety notches. my
routine before arming is to open the holster grip and visually inspect for a
proper "cylinder picture" to make sure it is in its notch and use my offhand
thumb and forefinger to wiggle the cylinder and make sure it is locked in before
i close the holster and clip it in my pocket. i reverse this procedure when i
return home and secure the gun.

as an experiment i "fiddled" (with an EMPTY gun) clipped in my pocket and found
that i can cock the gun enough so that the cylinder is ABLE to turn but since
the cylinder and trigger are covered by the holster, i cannot use my hand or
fingers to move the position of the cylinder or return the hammer to the notch
or to lower the hammer completely onto an empty or live cylinder.

i then removed the empty, holstered gun to try it different ways like partially
opening the gun to see if there is any movement of the cylinder at that partial
cock stage.

since i could not get the gun in the grip holster to move a round under the
hammer, i took another of my minis with a conventional grip and tried the
experiment again and tried various things like whipping it back and forth with
quick stops to see if centrifugal force could do it but i had no luck. at this
cock level i can only get the cylinder to spin and move a round under the hammer
if i use my fingers to turn the cylinder.

i then moved onto the hammer and find i cannot get the hammer to lower into the
notch or to rest on a live round unless i partially depress the trigger. i would
guess that if ya hit in on the hammer with a hard object that you MAY be able to
get the hammer to strike down but not without a lot of force or damage to the
gun.

i cannot envision the perfect storm of actions that would allow the hammer to
come out of a notch, rotate a round to under the hammer and then allow the
hammer to fire a round while it is clipped in your pocket.

i think a person would have to be a fidgeter to get the hammer to release the
cylinder. i found that if you have it clipped in your pocket and walk or stand
around with your hand in your pocket and fiddle with it like you would with car
keys.......then it is easy to get that half cock and a fidgetty thumb may almost
absentmindedly be compelled to thumb cock the gun. but its a GUN....NOT car
keys!

after this experiment i feel more confident than ever with my decision to carry
a safety notch loaded mini 22 clipped inside of my front pants pocket in a NAA
holster grip.

i am confident that it will deter anybody except bad, bad guys or bad,bad,bad
dogs. in public i carry it loaed so the first two rounds are federal 22lr
birdshot followed by three rounds of CCI mini mag 22lr

i can almost promise you that a punk in a mall parking lot at night who
stares...point blank into a mini........sees a flash.....hears a loud bang and
feels a hot burn of 22 birdshot over a  7-8" spread at six feet is gonna have
just one thought....FLEE

gimme my mini22 carried 24/7 over anything that sits at home in a drawer.

i have a guilty admission to make. my most "effective" pocket gun is my 380
LCP...i have an excellent pocket rig....i can hit anything, anywhere i choose at
10 yard range and it works FLAWLESSLY and the round is effective protection
against anyone except the most drug addled moron attacker.

but see....here in small city NH we dont have many druggies on PCP. most little
drug heads here tend to be burglars and steal out of parked cars and i think
there have been a couple of strong arm robberies with only one brandishing a
knife. a mini is JUST fine here in NH

the place i travel to most with a REAL danger of a parking lot robbery is the
springfield mass. area......unfortunately.....if i carry ANY of my guns
there.....and got caught....ESPECIALLY if i was protecting myself or my
family......i would go to prison.

god help honest people in massachusetts

- chriS

P.S. - my current "dream" gun is a NAA mini 32ACP with a 1 1/8" bbl. i would
want it to use the removable cylinder and full moon clips(which would also act
as little speed loaders. i think the 32ACP is a more manageable round than the
32H&R that they were trying to do with the top-break model they were working on
and dont think the cylinder pressure would be much different than the 22mag
round



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> This conversation started in August; it's now November.
> I have been carrying my NAA LR with holster grip with the hammer resting in
the safety notch.  The revolver has been clipped in my front pocket sometimes,
and in my back pocket other times.
> NOT ONCE has it tried to slip from the safety notch!  Not a single time.
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had the hammer resting on a live round.  I'm just a little suspicious.
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> My BC Special carries just fine in the same manner, hammer in the safety
notch.  It rides in my pocket in a holster. 
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> Subject: [2guntom] Re: INTERESTING LETTER [What Do YOU Carry?]
> To: 2guntom@yahoogroups.com
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getting out of the notch and on a loaded round.  He suggested that the hammer
should be allowed to rest over an empty chamber.  He offered a story to back
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