> I haVE A naa BLACK POWDER PISTOL..5 SHOT IN 22 CALIBER..WHERE CAN i
> FIND THE BULETS FOR THIS ONE?..IS THERE A CONVERSION CYINDER TO MAKE
> IT A RIMFIRE REVLVER?



   You can find the info at NAA's website, www.naaminis.com for all their
products.  The bullets are around $4 for 100, or $2.50 for 50.  See
http://www.naaminis.com/naac&b.html for bullets and other C+B accessories.
The bullets are not really cheap when you look at what bulk pack .22 LR goes
for.  :-)
   As far as the conversion cylinder, the answer is NO, as far as I know.  I
do know that NAA does NOT offer one.  They state this right in their FAQ
about the revolver.  See:  http://www.naaminis.com/capballfaq.html
Whether there is another company out there, I don't know, but I've never
heard of one.   If there was, I'd buy a magnum frame C+B tomorrow.  :-)
Chuck F.
NE PA

I haVE A naa BLACK POWDER PISTOL..5 SHOT IN 22 CALIBER..WHERE CAN i
FIND THE BULETS FOR THIS ONE?..IS THERE A CONVERSION CYINDER TO MAKE
IT A RIMFIRE REVLVER?

>I am going to buy a naa mini 5 shot pistol . I like the idea of being
>able to put it into your front pocket and the life time warranty.
>I can't decide on which caliber?  I am wondering if the 22 magnum has
>to much of a kick?

Get both! :)
The LR is pretty small, which can be nice. I got the magnum just so I
had more of a grip to hold on to. I rather like those lil chunks of
rubber that fit on the side(so small I can hardly bring myself to
call them grips). Helps keep it from slipping away. The magnums do
have a bit of a kick to them, watch where you put your thumb! The
back edge of the cylinder can be sharp when the recoil shoves it into
your thumb.
Seeing as how I like small, I might go for the 22 short model next. I
had a LR-frame black powder for a while, ended up trading it for
something else with a friend that was into black powder. Just too
much of a hassle for me.
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I am going to buy a naa mini 5 shot pistol . I like the idea of being
able to put it into your front pocket and the life time warranty.
I can't decide on which caliber?  I am wondering if the 22 magnum has
to much of a kick?

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I shot the Guardian 380 yesterday.
Great little hand cannon!
I shot 24 rds of UMC, 24 rds of Fiocchi, and 12 rds of some old "green
box" (steel case).
I had NO failures to feed or eject---even on last round. All ammo
seemed to shoot about 1 1/2" to the left at 7 yds. Does anyone know if
something can be done to correct it, or is this normal?
The only problem I had was 2 failures to fire on first pull with the
steel case stuff, I suspect hard primers although it worked well in a
CZ 83 and I brought along.
With the exception of shooting left, I am very happy with it.

BTW, does anyone make a speed loader for it? I've sure got some sore
fingertips ;)

Colin

Hi all,

I just joined this group.
I have had a NAA 22/22mag combo for several years and am impressed
with the quality.
I have just gotten a Guardian in 380 (with CA mandatory built in
lock).
I haven't fired it as yet, and I hope it lives up to my expectations.

Colin

I hear that it has 1100-1200 FPS with a 60 grain bullet and that it
has sightly better sopping power than the 380 +P. It should be more
reliable since it is bottle necked which makes it easier to chamber.
I don't know how expensive a box af bullets would cost but I think
they will be a bit more than a box of 380's for a while. I Doubt if
other companies start to make guns to chamber it.



--- In NAAOG@yahoogroups.com, "darvellh" <DarvellHunt@W...> wrote:
> Has anybody purchased the new .32NAA Guardian? (That's the .380
case
> necked down to a .32ACP bullet, by the way.) Anybody even seen one
at
> a gun store yet?
>
> I haven't got one, but I'm certainly tempted.
>
> Darvell

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I'm still trying to master the little 380 as best as I can and doing
pretty good, getting the bulls eye or close at 7 yards firing as
fast as I can. I hear that there is a jamming problem with this
pistol I haven't experienced any yet. Has anyone ever had a bad
experience with the 380 guardian jamming?
Anyway I'm starting to trust this gun enough for carry cause I have
not had any problems so far. I have been using a Glock 36 but it is
a bit too big for concealed carry.
Scott

Hi Scott -

>I just bought a NAA 380 ACP. I shot a few rounds at the range at 7
>yards I was really impressed with it. On the frame it has Kahr arms
>stamped on it I didn't know they were the same company as NAA. Anyway
>I'm happy to find a group that may help me if I have questions.

Yeah, nice little gun.  Mine needed some minor polishing to be
reliable at first, but now it does great.  Kahr is not the same
company.  NAA has Kahr make the frames ....

- Henry

I just bought a NAA 380 ACP. I shot a few rounds at the range at 7
yards I was really impressed with it. On the frame it has Kahr arms
stamped on it I didn't know they were the same company as NAA. Anyway
I'm happy to find a group that may help me if I have questions.

That's exactly right. A number of people I've talked to shoot low
because they put the tip of the front sight on the top of the back
instead of aiming down the flat top of the barrel, as John suggests
below.

Just about everyone I've talked to who adjusted their sight picture
this way has fixed their problem. Just aim down the barrel with the
front sight directly over what you want to hit.

Darvell

--- In NAAOG@yahoogroups.com, John Rollins <kd7bcy@t...> wrote:
> >I fire it, using the front sight, I constantly shoot low on the
> >target. However, when I ignore the sight and basically cover the
> >black with the bbl, it shoots in the black.
>
> What I do is line up the front sight and that little notch in the
> back, and then use the flat top of the gun to get it level. I've
> noticed with mine that if it's not completely level with where I'm
> aiming, I can't get anywhere close to the target. Pretty accurate
> from such a short smoothbore, but I still can't remember to keep my
> thumb out of the way... I keep getting hit by the edge of the
> cylinder. The thing nearly flew out of my hand the first time I
fired
> a Mag! I usually shoot LR out of it though, and keep some good
> hollowpoints magnums in it when I carry as a backup to my Glock.
>
> --
>
> /------------------------------------\
> |  http://jrollins.tripod.com/                   |
> |  KD7BCY      kd7bcy@t...          |
> \------------------------------------/

>I fire it, using the front sight, I constantly shoot low on the
>target. However, when I ignore the sight and basically cover the
>black with the bbl, it shoots in the black.

What I do is line up the front sight and that little notch in the
back, and then use the flat top of the gun to get it level. I've
noticed with mine that if it's not completely level with where I'm
aiming, I can't get anywhere close to the target. Pretty accurate
from such a short smoothbore, but I still can't remember to keep my
thumb out of the way... I keep getting hit by the edge of the
cylinder. The thing nearly flew out of my hand the first time I fired
a Mag! I usually shoot LR out of it though, and keep some good
hollowpoints magnums in it when I carry as a backup to my Glock.

--

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|  KD7BCY      kd7bcy@...          |
\------------------------------------/

I own a .22 Mag Mini w/ 1& 5/8" bbl. I bought it as a carry weapon,
giving in to its small size. I carry it more than my Kel Tec P40,
which for most is a bad tradeoff, but whatever. Anyway, I was
wondering if anyone could give some advise for using the sight. When
I fire it, using the front sight, I constantly shoot low on the
target. However, when I ignore the sight and basically cover the
black with the bbl, it shoots in the black. The holes do dance all
over the target, usually, but I attribute that to me and not the gun.
Any advise would be appreciated, as I would very much like to improve
my performace with this gun; it is my favorite, after all.

Hey, Chuck. That sounds tempting to me. I have both firearms for
which you would consider trade. How straight does it shoot? It has
fixed sights, right? So does it shoot to the point of aim?

My Black Widow is probably a keeper, but I may consider a trade for
my black powder magnum Companion. I have two cylinders for it and
about 200 bullets and loading accessories. I also have the "Civil
War" leather flap holster for it, which is cool. (This set is
the "Civil War Companion Collector Kit," as seen on the NAA web site
at: http://www.naaminis.com/civilcb.html .)

It's a BLAST to shoot. Good thing about this trade would be that I
could ship it directly to your house without an FFL, because it is
considered a replica and does not need an FFL to transfer it, as long
as that's legal in your local area.

As for being tight and solid, that doesn't necessarily mean anything,
as these weapons are precision made and can retain that "tight and
solid" feel for a long time. ;) But that's good! ;)

Darvell

(BTW, this isn't Off-Topic at all!)







--- In NAAOG@yahoogroups.com, "Charles Featherman" <chuckmann@y...>
wrote:
>
>   OK, since the list is dead, I'll try to drum up some traffic......
>
>   I am trying to sell, IF the price is right, the following:
>
>   NAA Mini Master Conversion (that means BOTH Magnum and LR
cylinders to any
> newbies).
>   I also have both the Left and Right belt/hip holsters for the
gun, which
> are included in the price.  It also comes with the gun rug that
comes with
> it from the factory.
>   It has the low profile sights, and is in near perfect condition.
>   I want $235 + S+H to your FFL, or will consider an even trade for
a NAA
> Black Widow in the same configuration/condition.  The sale is
preferred, but
> the trade is do-able.  I would also consider a trade of the Magnum
Companion
> and some cash....
>   The gun has less than 200 rounds through it, at my estimation,
but I
> cannot guarantee that it was not 201.  :-)
>   (I can guarantee that the majority if the rounds were .22 LR
and .22 CB
> short.)
>   Seriously, though, it has few rounds through it, and the proof is
in the
> gun itself.  It is tight and solid.
>   If anyone is interested, let me know off list.
> Chuck F.
> NE PA

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From: darvellh

To: NAAOG@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2003 8:16 PM

Subject: [NAAOG] Re: Slow activity

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OK, since the list is dead, I'll try to drum up some traffic......

   I am trying to sell, IF the price is right, the following:

   NAA Mini Master Conversion (that means BOTH Magnum and LR cylinders to any
newbies).
   I also have both the Left and Right belt/hip holsters for the gun, which
are included in the price.  It also comes with the gun rug that comes with
it from the factory.
   It has the low profile sights, and is in near perfect condition.
   I want $235 + S+H to your FFL, or will consider an even trade for a NAA
Black Widow in the same configuration/condition.  The sale is preferred, but
the trade is do-able.  I would also consider a trade of the Magnum Companion
and some cash....
   The gun has less than 200 rounds through it, at my estimation, but I
cannot guarantee that it was not 201.  :-)
   (I can guarantee that the majority if the rounds were .22 LR and .22 CB
short.)
   Seriously, though, it has few rounds through it, and the proof is in the
gun itself.  It is tight and solid.
   If anyone is interested, let me know off list.
Chuck F.
NE PA

Anybody alive out there?

No.
:-)
Chuck F.
Not alive in NE PA

Anybody alive out there?

Anything we can do to increase activity on this list? We have 82
official members, but I don't see many messages.

What do you think of the new products? The .32NAA Guardian with the
the .380 case necked down to a .32 bullet. Or the .17HMR minimaster?

What NAA firearms do you own? I personally own a .22LR/Magnum Black
Widow, .22LR mini, Guardian 32, Guardian 380 (first retail
Guardian .380 to be sold from the factory!), and a .22 Magnum Black
Powder mini. All are fine firearms.

What else would you like to discuss?

Darvell

--- In NAAOG@yahoogroups.com, "woodsrunner2" <woodsrunner2@y...>
wrote:
> Hello all. Just found this group and have a question. How accurate
are
> the several models? I am interested in a Mini-Master in .22mag if
the
> accuracy is there. T.I.A. Good hunting. woodrunner

I guess late is better than never...!

The Minimaster is really quite accurate. I have a Black Widow with
adjustable sights and it's pretty accurate as well. The extra two
inches is going to do nothing but help.

I'm not yet really sold on the adjustable sights, though. Not sure
why you'd need adjustable sights unless the fixed sights don't work
well. The fixed sights are smaller and may be better. I would
reconsider buying the adjustable sights for another purchase.

I'm personally looking to buy the new .17HMR minimaster.

Darvell

Hello all. Just found this group and have a question. How accurate are
the several models? I am interested in a Mini-Master in .22mag if the
accuracy is there. T.I.A. Good hunting. woodrunner

Darvell -

I haven't purchased one, but I HAVE seen one in a gun store (Gun
Depot in Tucker, GA) and even held it in my hand. Not a bad little
piece, although the stock sights leave a little something to be
desired (same as the .32 and the .380). Then again, you're probably
not going to be trying to shoot tight groups at 25 yards with this
thing, so the sights may be a minor thing. I hear than NAA will put
tritium sights on it if you want (and pay).

My $0.02 worth ...

Jim Hardeman
Decatur, GA

--- In NAAOG@yahoogroups.com, "darvellh" <DarvellHunt@W...> wrote:
> Has anybody purchased the new .32NAA Guardian? (That's the .380
case
> necked down to a .32ACP bullet, by the way.) Anybody even seen one
at
> a gun store yet?
>
> I haven't got one, but I'm certainly tempted.
>
> Darvell

Darvell -

I haven't purchased one, but I HAVE seen one in a gun store (Gun
Depot in Tucker, GA) and even held it in my hand. Not a bad little
piece, although the stock sights leave a little something to be
desired (same as the .32 and the .380). Then again, you're probably
not going to be trying to shoot tight groups at 25 yards with this
thing, so the sights may be a minor thing. I hear than NAA will put
tritium sights on it if you want (and pay).

My $0.02 worth ...

Jim Hardeman
Decatur, GA

--- In NAAOG@yahoogroups.com, "darvellh" <DarvellHunt@W...> wrote:
> Has anybody purchased the new .32NAA Guardian? (That's the .380
case
> necked down to a .32ACP bullet, by the way.) Anybody even seen one
at
> a gun store yet?
>
> I haven't got one, but I'm certainly tempted.
>
> Darvell

Darvell -

I haven't purchased one, but I HAVE seen one in a gun store (Gun
Depot in Tucker, GA) and even held it in my hand. Not a bad little
piece, although the stock sights leave a little something to be
desired (same as the .32 and the .380). Then again, you're probably
not going to be trying to shoot tight groups at 25 yards with this
thing, so the sights may be a minor thing. I hear than NAA will put
tritium sights on it if you want (and pay).

My $0.02 worth ...

Jim Hardeman
Decatur, GA

--- In NAAOG@yahoogroups.com, "darvellh" <DarvellHunt@W...> wrote:
> Has anybody purchased the new .32NAA Guardian? (That's the .380
case
> necked down to a .32ACP bullet, by the way.) Anybody even seen one
at
> a gun store yet?
>
> I haven't got one, but I'm certainly tempted.
>
> Darvell

I just got a Guardian .380 ... nice little gun and seems surprisingly
accurate, however I'm having some trouble with malfunctions.
Specifically, it tends to fail to feed (bullet part way in, slide not
closed) on the 2nd and 3rd shots from both magazines, but moreso from
the mag without the finger extension.  I've put 100 rounds through it
now.  I found that only loading 5 in the magazine would usually result
in no malfunctions.

Any advice on oiling? - type of lubricant and important areas?  ...
since it doesn't have rails like my .45 I've looked for areas that
show any wear.. seems like where the slide contacts the hammer is the
main contact point.

- Henry

--- In NAAOG@yahoogroups.com, DarvellHunt@W... wrote:
> I saw an interesting thing tonite on TV on the special 450th
episode of
> COPS.
>
> A guy got arrested for posession of drugs and, lo
> and behold, in his pocket they pulled out an NAA
> .22LR minirevolver with folding grip holster. They
> pulled the cylinder pin and cylinder to reveal five
> live rounds -- a big oh-h for him, as I'm pretty sure
> he didn't have a concealed permit for it.
>
> Thought you'd find that interesting. I did.
>
> Darvell Hunt
> Pleasant Grove, UT
I have the black powder mini .22 revolver...I've heard that a .22
cartridge cylinder is available for it...is this true?...mine won't
penetrate plywood with pyrodex, but blows through with FFFFg
powder...the bullet is a .22 short 29 grain bullet...I know I
wouldn't want to get hit with it even if it doesn't blow through
plywood...Fat Sandy

I am having a bit of a time with the aiming.  Left to right is OK
but I am shooting a good 8+ inches down at 12 feet even having the
front sight fully visible.
   I am wondering about the fairly stiff trigger pull and challenge in
holding the weapon steady if it is inclining/dipping forward when
firing.  Along those lines I am wondering if the oversize grips would
be a good idea to give a firmer grasp of the gun as I am not feeling
comfortable holding with the standard little bitty grips.

    Thoughts on this?

manc133

Has anybody purchased the new .32NAA Guardian? (That's the .380 case
necked down to a .32ACP bullet, by the way.) Anybody even seen one at
a gun store yet?

I haven't got one, but I'm certainly tempted.

Darvell