I was reading about 4 bores and their use in Africa. Only 4 roundballs
can be made from a lb. of lead for this rifle thus the projectile is
1/4 lb. The recoil can be astonishing. I did the math. Huge roundballs
make pretty good holes too. Here is a video of one being shot. For
every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. Yipes!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElmlIyOtf1Q

I'd like to know if there are any links to period pictures of Capotes
in N American during our time period.

Not modern day sutler pics but period renderings of Capotes 1700 to 1800.

I've noticed on the Germain portraits he has a Canadian Farmer and a
Brit soldier. On the soldier there 'appears' to be vents or gathered
pleats at the back much like a period coat instead of the designs
found in today's capote patterns.

Any info out there on this?

O'Connell
www.kings8th.com

thanks for the reply ,we did get it out with a puller

--- On Wed, 1/21/09, mserino <mserino@...> wrote:

From: mserino <mserino@...>
Subject: RE: [Muzzleloaders] ball stuck in barrel
To: Muzzleloaders@yahoogroups.com
Received: Wednesday, January 21, 2009, 8:28 PM






You could try to remove the nipple and with a nipple cleaning wire spoon
feed some black powder into the chamber. It will not take that much powder.
Put the nipple back with a primer and fire. It will at least clear the
muzzle. It has worked for me several times.

Mike Serino

_____

From: Muzzleloaders@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:Muzzleloaders@ yahoogroups. com]
On Behalf Of Rick DeWitt
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 6:25 PM
To: Muzzleloaders@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [Muzzleloaders] ball stuck in barrel

The T/C silent ball discharger attaches where the nipple goes and blows the
ball out with a burst of CO2.

A ball puller attaches to the internal-threaded end of the ramrod and looks
rather like a wood screw. Drop the ramrod with the puller attached down the
barrel and start turning it to thread the screw into the ball. When the
treads are fully engaged (it will be even harder to turn or even stop
turning altogether), you can pull the ball out with the ramrod. Sometimes
you might need a ramrod gripper (don;t use pliers) or a T-handle on the
other end of the rod.

"I have always been unsatisfied with life as most people live it. Always I
want to live more intensely and richly. Why muck and conceal one's true
longings and loves, when by speaking of them one might find someone to
understand them, and by acting on them one might discover oneself?"Everett
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From: kevin day <kday_59@yahoo. <mailto:kday_ 59%40yahoo. com> com>
Subject: Re: [Muzzleloaders] ball stuck in barrel
To: Muzzleloaders@ <mailto:Muzzleloade rs%40yahoogroups .com> yahoogroups. com
Date: Wednesday, January 7, 2009, 6:18 PM

thanks for the reply,it is a sidelockwoud you use the co2in the hole where
the cap nipple is?and this being all new to me just what is a ball puller
and how does it work? Thanks for you help

--- On Tue, 1/6/09, Rick DeWitt <badwrench13@ yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Rick DeWitt <badwrench13@ yahoo.com>

Subject: Re: [Muzzleloaders] ball stuck in barrel

To: Muzzleloaders@ yahoogroups. com

Received: Tuesday, January 6, 2009, 10:07 PM

Did you try a ball puller or co2 discharger? Removing a breechplug can be
tricky, so I would try everything else first. Is this a sidelock or an
inline?

http://www.bp- outdoors. com/muzzleloader .html

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You could try to remove the nipple and with a nipple cleaning wire spoon
feed some black powder into the chamber. It will not take that much powder.
Put the nipple back with a primer and fire. It will at least clear the
muzzle. It has worked for me several times.

Mike Serino



   _____

From: Muzzleloaders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Muzzleloaders@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Rick DeWitt
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 6:25 PM
To: Muzzleloaders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Muzzleloaders] ball stuck in barrel



The T/C silent ball discharger attaches where the nipple goes and blows the
ball out with a burst of CO2.

A ball puller attaches to the internal-threaded end of the ramrod and looks
rather like a wood screw.  Drop the ramrod with the puller attached down the
barrel and start turning it to thread the screw into the ball.  When the
treads are fully engaged (it will be even harder to turn or even stop
turning altogether), you can pull the ball out with the ramrod.  Sometimes
you might need a ramrod gripper (don;t use pliers) or a T-handle on the
other end of the rod.

"I have always been unsatisfied with life as most people live it. Always I
want to live more intensely and richly. Why muck and conceal one's true
longings and loves, when by speaking of them one might find someone to
understand them, and by acting on them one might discover oneself?"Everett
Ruess


--- On Wed, 1/7/09, kevin day <kday_59@yahoo. <mailto:kday_59%40yahoo.com>
com> wrote:
From: kevin day <kday_59@yahoo. <mailto:kday_59%40yahoo.com> com>
Subject: Re: [Muzzleloaders] ball stuck in barrel
To: Muzzleloaders@ <mailto:Muzzleloaders%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, January 7, 2009, 6:18 PM

thanks for the reply,it is a sidelockwoud you use the co2in the hole where
the cap nipple is?and this being all new to me just what is a ball puller
and how does it work? Thanks for you help

--- On Tue, 1/6/09, Rick DeWitt <badwrench13@ yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Rick DeWitt <badwrench13@ yahoo.com>

Subject: Re: [Muzzleloaders] ball stuck in barrel

To: Muzzleloaders@ yahoogroups. com

Received: Tuesday, January 6, 2009, 10:07 PM

Did you try a ball puller or co2 discharger?  Removing a breechplug can be
tricky, so I would try everything else first.  Is this a sidelock or an
inline?

http://www.bp- outdoors. com/muzzleloader .html

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The T/C silent ball discharger attaches where the nipple goes and blows the ball
out with a burst of CO2.

A ball puller attaches to the internal-threaded end of the ramrod and looks
rather like a wood screw.  Drop the ramrod with the puller attached down the
barrel and start turning it to thread the screw into the ball.  When the treads
are fully engaged (it will be even harder to turn or even stop turning
altogether), you can pull the ball out with the ramrod.  Sometimes you might
need a ramrod gripper (don;t use pliers) or a T-handle on the other end of the
rod.

"I have always been unsatisfied with life as most people live it. Always I want
to live more intensely and richly. Why muck and conceal one's true longings and
loves, when by speaking of them one might find someone to understand them, and
by acting on them one might discover oneself?"Everett Ruess
   

--- On Wed, 1/7/09, kevin day <kday_59@...> wrote:
From: kevin day <kday_59@...>
Subject: Re: [Muzzleloaders] ball stuck in barrel
To: Muzzleloaders@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, January 7, 2009, 6:18 PM











             thanks for the reply,it is a sidelockwoud you use the co2in the hole
where the cap nipple is?and this being all new to me just what is a ball puller
and how does it work? Thanks for you help

--- On Tue, 1/6/09, Rick DeWitt <badwrench13@ yahoo.com> wrote:



From: Rick DeWitt <badwrench13@ yahoo.com>

Subject: Re: [Muzzleloaders] ball stuck in barrel

To: Muzzleloaders@ yahoogroups. com

Received: Tuesday, January 6, 2009, 10:07 PM



Did you try a ball puller or co2 discharger?  Removing a breechplug can be
tricky, so I would try everything else first.  Is this a sidelock or an inline?



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How do to all. I have just purchased my first muzzle loader to today
in fact i havent gotten it as yet. I bought it on gunbrokers and dont
know anything much about it. It is a cva staghorn .50 cal magnum.

does anyone know anything about them? Are they a desent starter for
muzzle loader beginer, Are they resonably acurate? Can anyone give me a
hint as to what load to start with (grains of powder, type powder,
bullet type, bullet weight) any help you caan offer will be appreciated.
Happy to be a part of group. hope i soon have some stories to share.

Track of the Wolf Brown Bess proof marks for sale Half Price:

New.... NEVER used.

Stamps:

   GR-A
   GR-CS
   GR -Crown

(see Track of the Wolf website to pictures or contact me)

Selling as a group of three, will not separate: $45 plus $7 shipping,
total $52

Got these for a well meaning Christmas gift and I don't want to mess
with them.......Period!~

They are brand new, NEVER used.

Contact me DIRECT at    ToDanielOConnell@...   Do NOT email me
on this email group.    $52 total

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thanks for the reply,it is a sidelockwoud you use the co2in the hole where the
cap nipple is?and this being all new to me just what is a ball puller and how
does it work? Thanks for you help
--- On Tue, 1/6/09, Rick DeWitt <badwrench13@...> wrote:

From: Rick DeWitt <badwrench13@...>
Subject: Re: [Muzzleloaders] ball stuck in barrel
To: Muzzleloaders@yahoogroups.com
Received: Tuesday, January 6, 2009, 10:07 PM






Did you try a ball puller or co2 discharger?  Removing a breechplug can be
tricky, so I would try everything else first.  Is this a sidelock or an inline?

http://www.bp- outdoors. com/muzzleloader .html















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Did you try a ball puller or co2 discharger?  Removing a breechplug can be
tricky, so I would try everything else first.  Is this a sidelock or an inline?

http://www.bp-outdoors.com/muzzleloader.html

The best way to compress any spring is with a spring vise. Check dixie, track of
the wolf, or any other place that sells muzzle loader accouterments for one of
these. They are an invaluable tool to have handy...
 
wilson

--- On Wed, 1/7/09, daniel oconnell <todanieloconnell@...> wrote:

From: daniel oconnell <todanieloconnell@...>
Subject: [Muzzleloaders] sear spring advice
To: Muzzleloaders@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, January 7, 2009, 6:45 PM






I have the process down for compressing the feather spring and main
spring on a Brown Bess lock, but can someone give me the idiot's guide
to compressing the Sear Spring?

I've used needle nose pliers but is there a way to compress the Sear
Spring better than needle nose? (I'm always fearful the needle nose
pliers will damage or over compress the sear spring)

O'Connell


















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I have the process down for compressing the  feather spring and main
spring on a Brown Bess lock, but can someone give me the idiot's guide
to compressing the Sear Spring?

I've used needle nose pliers but is there a way to compress the Sear
Spring better than needle nose? (I'm always fearful the needle nose
pliers will damage or over compress the sear spring)

O'Connell

thanks for the reply ,found a guy that says he can get it out

--- On Tue, 1/6/09, Bryan Womack <grizs50@...> wrote:

From: Bryan Womack <grizs50@...>
Subject: Re: [Muzzleloaders] ball stuck in barrel
To: Muzzleloaders@yahoogroups.com
Received: Tuesday, January 6, 2009, 10:34 PM






First off is it an inline on a side lock?
 
How did the ball get stuck?
 
If you forgot to put powder down you can remove the nipple and put a few grains
of powder in the nipple hole, reinstall the nipple, make sure the ball is
seated, cap it, point it in a safe direction and shoot it out.

ymhbiC

Bryan(Griz)Womack 
Confederate Legion
 
"The true patriot does not love his government. The true patriot loves his
country and watches his government."

Life's journey is not about arriving at the grave in a well preserved body, but
rather sliding in sideways, totally worn out, screaming - "HOLY COW MAN, WHAT A
RIDE!"

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--- On Tue, 1/6/09, kday_59 <kday_59@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: kday_59 <kday_59@yahoo. com>
Subject: [Muzzleloaders] ball stuck in barrel
To: Muzzleloaders@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Tuesday, January 6, 2009, 12:25 PM

can some one tell me if we can get the back end of a 54 cal muzzle
loader offI have one here that has a ball stuck in it and we want to
know if the peice on the end of the barrel comes off? thanks for your
help

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thanks for the reply will try that

--- On Wed, 1/7/09, Brad <bdmclerran@...> wrote:

From: Brad <bdmclerran@...>
Subject: [Muzzleloaders] Re: ball stuck in barrel
To: Muzzleloaders@yahoogroups.com
Received: Wednesday, January 7, 2009, 12:18 AM






Have you tried the Silent Ball Discharger from TC? It works well for me.

--- In Muzzleloaders@ yahoogroups. com, "kday_59" <kday_59@... > wrote:
>
> can some one tell me if we can get the back end of a 54 cal muzzle
> loader offI have one here that has a ball stuck in it and we want to
> know if the peice on the end of the barrel comes off? thanks for your
> help
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thanks for the reply ,found a guy that will do this for us .I hope lol
--- On Wed, 1/7/09, chris hagen <chrish@...> wrote:

From: chris hagen <chrish@...>
Subject: Re: [Muzzleloaders] Re: ball stuck in barrel
To: Muzzleloaders@yahoogroups.com
Received: Wednesday, January 7, 2009, 5:26 AM






For any side locks use the co2 discharger, don't think they work on the any
inline's tho,

-------Original Message----- --

From: Brad
Date: 1/6/2009 10:20:20 PM
To: Muzzleloaders@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: [Muzzleloaders] Re: ball stuck in barrel

Have you tried the Silent Ball Discharger from TC? It works well for me.

--- In Muzzleloaders@ yahoogroups. com, "kday_59" <kday_59@... > wrote:
>
> can some one tell me if we can get the back end of a 54 cal muzzle
> loader offI have one here that has a ball stuck in it and we want to
> know if the peice on the end of the barrel comes off? thanks for your
> help
>



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ok ,thanks for the reply we  have a guy that will get it out

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From: todanieloconnell@... <todanieloconnell@...>
Subject: Re: [Muzzleloaders] Re: ball stuck in barrel
To: Muzzleloaders@yahoogroups.com
Received: Wednesday, January 7, 2009, 8:40 AM






I'd recommend plugging the touch hole, stand the barrel up, fill it with oil,
put it in a closet and forget about it for a week. Pull it out and use the ball
puller.

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thanks for the reply we found a guy that says he can get it out.

--- On Tue, 1/6/09, dave swanson <swada54@...> wrote:

From: dave swanson <swada54@...>
Subject: Re: [Muzzleloaders] ball stuck in barrel
To: Muzzleloaders@yahoogroups.com
Received: Tuesday, January 6, 2009, 11:43 PM






Or if you double wadded it and it is stuck part way down the barrel make up
a ball puller that will go either all the way through the ball or most of the
way, so that you can get good purchase on it , hook the handlle of the puller
through something that will alow you to use it as a slide hammer and give it a
few firm taps to see if it will move, if it does keep going .If it does'nt move
but the puller stays firm in the ball try harder. ( worked for me on a number of
occasions )
 
Cheers
Dave  

--- On Wed, 7/1/09, Bryan Womack <grizs50@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: Bryan Womack <grizs50@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [Muzzleloaders] ball stuck in barrel
To: Muzzleloaders@ yahoogroups. com
Received: Wednesday, 7 January, 2009, 1:34 PM

First off is it an inline on a side lock?
 
How did the ball get stuck?
 
If you forgot to put powder down you can remove the nipple and put a few grains
of powder in the nipple hole, reinstall the nipple, make sure the ball is
seated, cap it, point it in a safe direction and shoot it out.

ymhbiC

Bryan(Griz)Womack 
Confederate Legion
 
"The true patriot does not love his government. The true patriot loves his
country and watches his government."

Life's journey is not about arriving at the grave in a well preserved body, but
rather sliding in sideways, totally worn out, screaming - "HOLY COW MAN, WHAT A
RIDE!"

http://www.biblegat eway.com
 
http://confederatel egion.com/
 
http://www.bikerorn ot.com/grizs50
 
 
 
 

--- On Tue, 1/6/09, kday_59 <kday_59@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: kday_59 <kday_59@yahoo. com>
Subject: [Muzzleloaders] ball stuck in barrel
To: Muzzleloaders@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Tuesday, January 6, 2009, 12:25 PM

can some one tell me if we can get the back end of a 54 cal muzzle
loader offI have one here that has a ball stuck in it and we want to
know if the peice on the end of the barrel comes off? thanks for your
help

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I'd recommend plugging the touch hole, stand the barrel up, fill it with oil,
put it in a closet and forget about it for a week. Pull it out and use the ball
puller.

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For any side locks use the co2 discharger,  don't think they work on the any
  inline's tho,

-------Original Message-------

From: Brad
Date: 1/6/2009 10:20:20 PM
To: Muzzleloaders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Muzzleloaders] Re: ball stuck in barrel

Have you tried the Silent Ball Discharger from TC? It works well for me.

--- In Muzzleloaders@yahoogroups.com, "kday_59" <kday_59@...> wrote:
>
> can some one tell me if we can get the back end of a 54  cal muzzle
> loader offI have one here that has a ball stuck in it and we want to
> know if the peice on the end of the barrel comes off? thanks for your
> help
>



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Have you tried the Silent Ball Discharger from TC? It works well for me.

--- In Muzzleloaders@yahoogroups.com, "kday_59" <kday_59@...> wrote:
>
> can some one tell me if we can get the back end of a 54  cal muzzle
> loader offI have one here that has a ball stuck in it and we want to
> know if the peice on the end of the barrel comes off? thanks for your
> help
>

Or if you double wadded it and it is stuck part way down the barrel make up
a ball puller that will go either all the way through the ball or most of the
way, so that you can get good purchase on it , hook the handlle of the puller
through something that will alow you to use it as a slide hammer and give it a
few firm taps to see if it will move, if it does keep going .If it does'nt move
but the puller stays firm in the ball try harder. ( worked for me on a number of
occasions )
 
Cheers
Dave  

--- On Wed, 7/1/09, Bryan Womack <grizs50@...> wrote:


From: Bryan Womack <grizs50@...>
Subject: Re: [Muzzleloaders] ball stuck in barrel
To: Muzzleloaders@yahoogroups.com
Received: Wednesday, 7 January, 2009, 1:34 PM






First off is it an inline on a side lock?
 
How did the ball get stuck?
 
If you forgot to put powder down you can remove the nipple and put a few grains
of powder in the nipple hole, reinstall the nipple, make sure the ball is
seated, cap it, point it in a safe direction and shoot it out.

ymhbiC

Bryan(Griz)Womack 
Confederate Legion
 
"The true patriot does not love his government. The true patriot loves his
country and watches his government."

Life's journey is not about arriving at the grave in a well preserved body, but
rather sliding in sideways, totally worn out, screaming - "HOLY COW MAN, WHAT A
RIDE!"

http://www.biblegat eway.com
 
http://confederatel egion.com/
 
http://www.bikerorn ot.com/grizs50
 
 
 
 

--- On Tue, 1/6/09, kday_59 <kday_59@yahoo. com> wrote:

From: kday_59 <kday_59@yahoo. com>
Subject: [Muzzleloaders] ball stuck in barrel
To: Muzzleloaders@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Tuesday, January 6, 2009, 12:25 PM

can some one tell me if we can get the back end of a 54 cal muzzle
loader offI have one here that has a ball stuck in it and we want to
know if the peice on the end of the barrel comes off? thanks for your
help

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First off is it an inline on a side lock?
 
How did the ball get stuck?
 
If you forgot to put powder down you can remove the nipple and put a few grains
of powder in the nipple hole, reinstall the nipple, make sure the ball is
seated, cap it, point it in a safe direction and shoot it out.





ymhbiC

Bryan(Griz)Womack 
Confederate Legion
 
"The true patriot does not love his government. The true patriot loves his
country and watches his government."

Life's journey is not about arriving at the grave in a well preserved body, but
rather sliding in sideways, totally worn out, screaming - "HOLY COW MAN, WHAT A
RIDE!"

http://www.biblegateway.com
 
http://confederatelegion.com/
 
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--- On Tue, 1/6/09, kday_59 <kday_59@...> wrote:


From: kday_59 <kday_59@...>
Subject: [Muzzleloaders] ball stuck in barrel
To: Muzzleloaders@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, January 6, 2009, 12:25 PM






can some one tell me if we can get the back end of a 54 cal muzzle
loader offI have one here that has a ball stuck in it and we want to
know if the peice on the end of the barrel comes off? thanks for your
help


















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can some one tell me if we can get the back end of a 54  cal muzzle
loader offI have one here that has a ball stuck in it and we want to
know if the peice on the end of the barrel comes off? thanks for your
help

AS I recall, this pistol takes a .490 round ball, a .010 pillow tick patch, lube
of your choice the less greasy if you are shooting and loading at the same time
and about 20 grains of 3f, and a number 11 cap, the cva nipple is junk, I always
switch mine for Uncle Mikes nipples but there are many good ones out there.
 
Help this helps





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--- On Wed, 12/24/08, Brian Meyette <apoiuyt@...> wrote:

From: Brian Meyette <apoiuyt@...>
Subject: [Muzzleloaders] CVA single shot pistol load info
To: Muzzleloaders@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, December 24, 2008, 1:52 PM






I recently bought my first BP gun, a CVA Hawken .50 caliber single
shot percussion pistol with 9 3/4" barrel. I didn't get a manual with
it. The CVA web site doesn't mention pistols at all.

My local dealer tells me there are several different "50 cal" size
balls available for different guns.

Does anyone have this pistol and know:

recommended ball size

recommended powder type (FFF?)

recommended powder charge

many thanks,
brian in NH


















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Found this info on an archived forum. Hope it helps.

CVA Hawken Pistol



Cal: 50

BBL:  9 3/4"

Twist: 1:66

Depth of Groove: .010

Projectile: .490" 177 gr Speer RB

Powder: GOI

Patch: .015" Ox-Yoke Precision Blue-striped

Lube: Young Country No. 103

Ignition: FFFFg pan powder or percussion cap

Powder Measure: Uncle Mike's 120

Powder Temp: 80 deg. F.



Powder                MV         ME       Vel      Energy

(vol)                     (fps)  (fpe)  (50 yd)     (50 yd)

30 FFFg                887          309      754       223

40 FFFg         1019        408    856              228

60 FFFg              1159        528      956               359



Maximum recommended load is 60 FFFg.

George Washburn as shotgunpete20

--- On Wed, 12/24/08, Brian Meyette <apoiuyt@...> wrote:

From: Brian Meyette <apoiuyt@...>
Subject: [Muzzleloaders] CVA single shot pistol load info
To: Muzzleloaders@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, December 24, 2008, 2:52 PM











             I recently bought my first BP gun, a CVA Hawken .50 caliber single

shot percussion pistol with 9 3/4" barrel.  I didn't get a manual with

it.  The CVA web site doesn't mention pistols at all.



My local dealer tells me there are several different "50 cal" size

balls available for different guns.



Does anyone have this pistol and know:



recommended ball size



recommended powder type (FFF?)



recommended powder charge



many thanks,

brian in NH





























[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

I recently bought my first BP gun, a CVA Hawken .50 caliber single
shot percussion pistol with 9 3/4" barrel.  I didn't get a manual with
it.  The CVA web site doesn't mention pistols at all.

My local dealer tells me there are several different "50 cal" size
balls available for different guns.

Does anyone have this pistol and know:

recommended ball size

recommended powder type (FFF?)

recommended powder charge

many thanks,
brian in NH

i have a cva mag muzzleloader and it only take 150 gr and i shoot 235 hp and i
bring down two deer this year at 150 yd 444  grain pure lead HP in 50 caliber
should go about 50 fti think that too big
 
--- On Mon, 12/22/08, rcd21797 <rcd21797@...> wrote:

From: rcd21797 rcd21797@... Subject: [Muzzleloaders] Power belt Question
To: Muzzleloaders@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, December 22, 2008, 1:53 PM






Hello all,
I am planning to hunt sika deer with muzzleloader. I have
been hunting these deer for 2 years and find them hard to put down. I
hit one with a 20gauge and it ran 80 yrds before it fell. The area
where i hunt is VERY thick. Visibility is 10 feet at best when on the
ground. Tracking is very difficult. Although i have not lost a deer
yet i have been with people that have. I am planning to buy the cva
wolf magnum and using 444 grain pure lead HP in 50 caliber. Any
suggestions would be appreciated.


















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Hello all,
           I am planning to hunt sika deer with muzzleloader.  I have
been hunting these deer for 2 years and find them hard to put down.  I
hit one with a 20gauge and it ran 80 yrds before it fell. The area
where i hunt is VERY thick. Visibility is 10 feet at best when on the
ground. Tracking is very difficult.  Although i have not lost a deer
yet i have been with people that have.  I am planning to buy the cva
wolf magnum and using 444 grain pure lead HP in 50 caliber. Any
suggestions would be appreciated.

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