The King's 8th (www.kings8th.com) is sponsoring a June 5,6,7, 2009
canoe 'trek' on the Huron river at Island Lake State Park, Brighton
Michigan.
Anyone interested in a canoe 'skills' weekend please contact me
directly at: todanieloconnell@...
The weekend will include:
Friday afternoon arrivals (departure with canoes) overnight primitive
riverside encampment. Overnight Friday.
Saturday (arrangements for Saturday arrivals), canoe trek, trail trek,
map and compass skills, LIVE FIRE at shooting range. Overnight Saturday.
Sunday (arrangements for Sunday arrivals) canoe trek, trails, LIVE
FIRE, afternoon departure.
Island Lake State Park is 30 minutes from Lansing Michigan, 1 hour 30
minutes from Sarnia Ontario, 4 hours from downtown Chicago.
Fee (deposit) for portion of canoe rental required. (3 men per canoe)
Again, Live Fire, skills. Not too difficult a river but certainly not
a cake walk picnic. Contact me for photos.
contact: ToDanielOConnell@...
www.kings8th.com
Good day friends,
You are all invited to come out to the Little Hat Ranch in
Kernersville, NC for a special event on October 11th.
"Cowboys For Vinny" is a fun filled day of events to lend financial
assistance to the family of a charming 5 year old boy with
Rhabdomiosarcoma, a cancer
that has invaded the base of his brain.
For details and directions go to www.littlehatranch.org click on events.
Thanks, and God Bless
Hi Lou
I need a tree stand like that! I'm one of those landlubbers who stands upright
on his hind legs while he looks for deer, and then drives an hour and a half to
get back home. If I had a place to sleep and a place to cook a lunch I'd be all
accessorized.Ken
http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/108588797/direct/01/
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http://home.windstream.net/tomf42344/
Hey All
Wish Deer Season just around the corner, it seems some of us need to get our
tree stands in order. I thought this set of pictures might help some of us to
get it done right
I hope this helps some of us to get in the spirt of the hunt
Brother Lou
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Thieves broke into the J-Tech shop in Slingerlands NY and made off
with all the Bowtech bows including those on layaway and those in for
servicing. If you see or hear anything that might help please let
Grace Gidley know at (518) 475-1775.
I just started hunting black powder last year . My first smoke poll is
a Pa Pellet 50 cal. . I have been hinting since I was 12 (I am 38)
never had gotten a deer till last year. My first day around 2 hours
into the day I got a nice doe . I am hooked looking for meny more
hunts with my flinter . Looking forward in get help and helping
others. Hope everyone has a good hunt.
Mike
I'm sorry.. no it's a percussion. I have a nice leather possibles bag, a powder
measurer, a ball starter and a cleaning kit that goes with it.
thanks,
Kary
--- On Mon, 6/30/08, mcneesemc@... <mcneesemc@...> wrote:
From: mcneesemc@... <mcneesemc@...>
Subject: Re: [Muzzleloaders] Pennsylvainia long rifle for sale or trade
To: Muzzleloaders@yahoogroups.com
Cc: "Bryan Womack" <grizs50@...>
Date: Monday, June 30, 2008, 2:56 AM
Definitely! However, there is no time lag in the firing and I am
sighting on a bench. Also, the pattern is consistent so I do not think
flinching is an issue.
---- Bryan Womack <grizs50@yahoo. com> wrote:
> Is this a flintlock?
>
>
http://www.bp- outdoors. com/muzzleloader .html
Muzzleloaders, Shooting, Hunting and Outdoor resources.
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Definitely! However, there is no time lag in the firing and I am sighting on a
bench. Also, the pattern is consistent so I do not think flinching is an issue.
---- Bryan Womack <grizs50@...> wrote:
> Is this a flintlock?
>
>
http://www.bp-outdoors.com/muzzleloader.html
Muzzleloaders, Shooting, Hunting and Outdoor resources.
I am inclinded to agree about raising the rear sight. The calaber is 50 round
ball with 90 grains of 2 f. Most folks around here think I'm over powered but I
like the flat trajectory. Mostly I am thinking about putting new sights on both
front and rear and starting from scratch, but I don't want to make the same
mistakes again.
Thanks for the thoughts.
Mike
http://www.bp-outdoors.com/muzzleloader.html
Muzzleloaders, Shooting, Hunting and Outdoor resources.
Dave
Thanks for your thoughts. I do shoot from a bench to sight in, but I do not
believe body motion is an issue. However, I will pay more attention to that in
the future. Also, I have made more than one ruler sketch without success but
will certainly give your suggestion try. Lord knows, I've tried enough things
to not trust my past efforts or reject any reasoned suggestion.
Again, my thanks.
Mike
http://www.bp-outdoors.com/muzzleloader.html
Muzzleloaders, Shooting, Hunting and Outdoor resources.
Is this a flintlock?
ymhbiC
Bryan(Griz)Womack
Confederate Legion
Life's journey is not about arriving at the grave in a well preserved body, but
rather sliding in sideways, totally worn out, screaming - "HOLY COW MAN, WHAT A
RIDE!"
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--- On Sun, 6/29/08, fourwheelhorseman <fourwheelhorseman@...> wrote:
From: fourwheelhorseman <fourwheelhorseman@...>
Subject: [Muzzleloaders] Pennsylvainia long rifle for sale or trade
To: Muzzleloaders@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, June 29, 2008, 8:30 PM
HI ALL,
I am thinking about selling my Penn. rifle from Traditions. I have an
older kentucky rifle that I may keep instead. My Penn. rifle has only
been shot about 10 times or so, I have all the 50 cal stuff to go with
it including a nice possibles bag. It retails for about 625 as of now
on the Traditions website. i will sell it for 400$ with the stuff
mentioned above. It has been well taken care of and only hunted with
for one season. I am looking for a colt 45 original or replica, a
ruger vaquero would do as well.. as long as it's in good shape.
anyone who is interested may email me at fourwheelhorseman @ yahoo.com
thanks,
Kary
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HI ALL,
I am thinking about selling my Penn. rifle from Traditions. I have an
older kentucky rifle that I may keep instead. My Penn. rifle has only
been shot about 10 times or so, I have all the 50 cal stuff to go with
it including a nice possibles bag. It retails for about 625 as of now
on the Traditions website. i will sell it for 400$ with the stuff
mentioned above. It has been well taken care of and only hunted with
for one season. I am looking for a colt 45 original or replica, a
ruger vaquero would do as well.. as long as it's in good shape.
anyone who is interested may email me at fourwheelhorseman @ yahoo.com
thanks,
Kary
mcneesemc:
If the projectile is going below your point of aim then two possibilities come
to mind:
1 You're using too little powder (You didn't state caliber, or whether you were
using round ball, or powder charge, so I can't guess if this is the case)
2 You need to buy or make a higher rear sight. The ways you raise point of
impact are to lower the front sight or to raise the rear sight. Since you say
the front has already been filed, I'm thinking the likeliest fix is to buy a new
rear sight from Dixie or Track of the Wolf, or whoever you use for parts.
Sounds as though the rear sight needs to be increased in height about half the
height of the Front sight.
Hope this helps. Good luck, and let us know if you have more questions.
Ken
=====================
From: mcneesemc <mcneesemc@...>
..... The normal sight picture shoots low; and the
blade has already been whittled kinda low. To make the rifle hit center (or at
least center level) I align the flat of the rear sight with the flat of the
barrel at the muzzle. However, since this shoots high, holding the picture of
"flat to flat" I lower muzzle, raising the bulls eye up to about half the height
of the blade in the sight picture. I end up with a sight picture of "rear sight
flat aligned with end of the barrel flat," bulls eye floating above the flats
centered about halfway up the blade.
Where does the ball hit when the top of the front sight is level with the top
flat of the rear sight . When you are sighting in are you bench resting the
rifle or shooting off hand , if you are bench resting then I know this may sound
strange but are you moving the Rifle to attain your sight picture or are you
moving your body ,if you raise the rear sight then you will shoot high .
The simplest way of working it out is to draw a horizontal line on a piece of
paper make sure it is shorter than your ruler, this represents your barrel, now
take your ruler this represents your line of sight , place it just above the
line that you have drawn ;if you raise the end of the ruler at the breach
end and draw a line longer than the barrel then you will see that the point at
which you are looking is lower than the point at which the barrel is shooting
meaning that you are shooting high and it has the opposite effect if you raise
the muzzle end of the
ruler . Hope this helps.
Cheers
Dave
--- On Tue, 6/24/08, mcneesemc <mcneesemc@...> wrote:
From: mcneesemc <mcneesemc@...>
Subject: [Muzzleloaders] Bazaar sigh picture
To: Muzzleloaders@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, June 24, 2008, 5:26 PM
I have been working on this zeroing problem for a long long time
without success. I have learned to hit near center at 100 yards but
only by using a highly bazaar sighting technic. I would like to use a
normal one but cannot figure out what to raise or whittle down. Here
is the bazaar technic.
Sighting for 100 yards: The normal sight picture shoots low; and the
blade has already been whittled kinda low. To make the rifle hit
center (or at least center level) I align the flat of the rear sight
with the flat of the barrel at the muzzle. However, since this shoots
high, holding the picture of "flat to flat" I lower muzzle, raising the
bulls eye up to about half the height of the blade in the sight
picture. I end up with a sight picture of "rear sight flat aligned
with end of the barrel flat," bulls eye floating above the flats
centered about halfway up the blade.
Currently I think I should raise the height of the rear sight flat.
Any thoughts.
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I have been working on this zeroing problem for a long long time
without success. I have learned to hit near center at 100 yards but
only by using a highly bazaar sighting technic. I would like to use a
normal one but cannot figure out what to raise or whittle down. Here
is the bazaar technic.
Sighting for 100 yards: The normal sight picture shoots low; and the
blade has already been whittled kinda low. To make the rifle hit
center (or at least center level) I align the flat of the rear sight
with the flat of the barrel at the muzzle. However, since this shoots
high, holding the picture of "flat to flat" I lower muzzle, raising the
bulls eye up to about half the height of the blade in the sight
picture. I end up with a sight picture of "rear sight flat aligned
with end of the barrel flat," bulls eye floating above the flats
centered about halfway up the blade.
Currently I think I should raise the height of the rear sight flat.
Any thoughts.
I got quite a shock recently when I learned that Greg Marts has passed
away. He was a regular contributor to this group, had a lot of
knowledge and was never afraid to share it. He was a true gentleman
and I will miss his wisdom and friendship here.
-Kees-
This is a group for this Rendezvous
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Buckskins_Brisket_Rendezvous
--- In Muzzleloaders@yahoogroups.com, "kees99919" <kees99919@...> wrote:
>
> --- In Muzzleloaders@yahoogroups.com, luke texas <luke_n_texas@>
> wrote:
> >
> > I would like to let everyone know about a new Rendezvous that will
be
> held in historic Jefferson Texas. It is open to Civilians, Military
> Individuals and Units, American Indians, MountainMen, Trappers, and
> everyone that wants to have a fun weekend.
>
> Sounds like a great weekend to me! I certainly wish I could make
it.
> I believe the weather will have cooled off a bit by the!
>
> -Kees-
>
--- In Muzzleloaders@yahoogroups.com, luke texas <luke_n_texas@...>
wrote:
>
> I would like to let everyone know about a new Rendezvous that will be
held in historic Jefferson Texas. It is open to Civilians, Military
Individuals and Units, American Indians, MountainMen, Trappers, and
everyone that wants to have a fun weekend.
Sounds like a great weekend to me! I certainly wish I could make it.
I believe the weather will have cooled off a bit by the!
-Kees-
I would like to let everyone know about a new Rendezvous that will be held in
historic Jefferson Texas. It is open to Civilians, Military Individuals and
Units, American Indians, MountainMen, Trappers, and everyone that wants to have
a fun weekend.
What: BUCKSKINS & BRISKET RENDEZVOUS
When: October 3 - 5, 2008
Friday: 9:00 am - 8:00 pm
Saturday: 9:00 am - 9:00 pm
Sunday: 9:00 am - 3:00 pm
Where: Cypress Bayou RV Park
1602 State Hwy 49 East
on Big Cypress Bayou
Jefferson, TX 75657
There will be Pre-1840's Living History Camp and Demonstrations, Primitive
Black Powder Shooting Matches, Tomahawk & Knife Throwing Contests, Period
Vendors, Crafters & Artisans. There will also IBCA Sanctioned Barbeque
Cook-Off.
The cost is $3 per person (children 5 and under free).
Campers are welcome!!! Pre-1840's dress is definitely encouraged. Trade Fair
open to Period Craftspeople, Artisans, Vendors, and Demonstrations &
Entertainers. Lots of space available - first come, first served - no
reservations required. Set up permitted Thursday afternoon.
Sponsored by: Diamond Don Motorsports and Historic Jefferson Railway
Phone 866-398-2038
Info@...
www.DiamondDon.com
From US Hwy 59, take State Hwy 49 East toward downtown Jefferson. Go left at
the Y in the road, taking State Hwy 49 East toward Smithland. Cypress Bayou RV
Park in one mile on the right. Signs will be posted. Transportation also
available from the Historic Jefferson Railway at 400 E. Austin in downtown
Jefferson. Enjoy the beautiful 200 acres of bayou country riding the train in
and around the park.
COME ONE, COME ALL
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Oh, I really wanted to brag about my deer lease. But this message was
about bird hunt'in. Anyhow, we might have an extra place this year on
the lease.. DEER HUNTING>
17,000 acres near Ozona, Tx. Year 'round feeders, enclosed deer stands,
LOTS of deer.
Lasr year, before Thanksgiving, 4 days if hunting, I counted 48 bucks:
7- 10 points or better, 26-8points, and numerous spikes, forkeys and
others. Does-more bucks thans does. This place amazes me. So many
deer. So much acreage. So little $.
I should not do this cause I know most people in the East will not
believe me. AND, LOL, I guess I'm bragging about it to!
Cory Stalvey wrote:
>I have 670 acres for lease in Dougherty co. close to Mitchell co. line about 5
miles south of Albany on Hwy. 19 that I will be breaking down into2 different
hunting clubs. All memberships will be $1600 each.I have a 320 acre club and a
350 acre club that I will be putting 5 members on each. Very nice property, lots
of turkeys and deer. Woods consist of plantation pines, creek bottoms and
hardwoods on property. Nice woods to quail hunt on also. I will be taking care
of planting and providing seeds for all food plots on all three tracts.
Approximately 600 sq. ft. metal building with power, water, sewer. Also can hook
up campers. If interested please contact me by pm or email.
>
>deer.buster@...
>
>Th
>
>
I have 670 acres for lease in Dougherty co. close to Mitchell co. line about 5
miles south of Albany on Hwy. 19 that I will be breaking down into2 different
hunting clubs. All memberships will be $1600 each.I have a 320 acre club and a
350 acre club that I will be putting 5 members on each. Very nice property, lots
of turkeys and deer. Woods consist of plantation pines, creek bottoms and
hardwoods on property. Nice woods to quail hunt on also. I will be taking care
of planting and providing seeds for all food plots on all three tracts.
Approximately 600 sq. ft. metal building with power, water, sewer. Also can hook
up campers. If interested please contact me by pm or email.
deer.buster@...
Thanks
We are selling dove field memberships for our private 90 acre dove field. Over
400 doves killed in one hunt alone last year. Last year we only planted 50 acres
and consistently saw 500 to 700 birds each hunt. $175.00 per membership.
Dove field will be planted in sunflower, dove proso, corn, & millet. We will
chop and mow as feed is needed for the birds leaving strips for cover. Power
line runs through the center of the field for the entire distance. There is a
small pond in the center of the field where the birds like to water. This field
has it ALL! Lots of good positions for all.
This field is planted strictly as a dove field and is in a major flyway with an
excellent history for a lot of birds. If you join one dove field this year it
needs to be this one. There is a pecan orchard near the field that the birds
like to roost in.
We will shoot this field when the birds are there. We will not gaurantee 2
shoots per week or anything like that. The field has a history of birds being
there consistently. For $175 per person, you can't ask for a better price.
Regardless of the number of memberships sold, the whole 90 acres will be planted
and the field will be shot. We shoot this field every year. I would just like
some help covering the cost of planting the field this year.
bbp@...deer.buster@...
850-443-0482 Lyle
229-563-6131 Cory
I am now offering duck memberships for a 250 acre duck pond in Brooks, Co. Ga.
The pond is a private pond I am leasing directly through the land owner. There
is a steady stream of a minimum of 600-800 woodies in this pond. LOT of open
water with some scattered cypress trees throughout the pond. There is also lot
of open water amongst some thicker trees in the back of the pond. There are some
other scattered species of ducks other than woodies in this pond. This pond was
only shot 3-4 times last year by one guy and two of his friends. We will plant
some rice,millet, etc. around the edges of the pond. In the future, the land
owner is going to dig a pond off the back of this lake to plant and flood also.
We will shoot a minimum of 4-6 shoots per year. All shoots will be organized
shoots conducted by me. I will call every member every time we plan a shoot with
at least a 7 day notice. We plan to build a few floating blinds, some around the
edges of the lake
also. We will have designated spots for you to bring your own small boats with
electric motors only. Memberships will be $750 per person per year with the
right to bring a guest each time you hunt. Your $750.00 buys you a two gun
position. If you have any other questions, please feel free to contact me. I can
show the Duck pond at anytime. We will post pictures early next week.
Thanks, Lyle
850-443-0482
bbp@...
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this isn't scientific, but.... it HAPPENED... in the 1970's I bought my late
father Bernard a reproduction Army Remington, we went to the range and he
couldn't hit paper with it... my ex MP dad said, "let's try 100 yards"... all
six hit paper at 100 yards...
just an experience to share on this thread
O'Connell
www.kings8th.com
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No , the old revolvers shoot high , need a taller front sight !
Gary
----- Original Message -----
From: pat
To: Muzzleloaders@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2008 7:45 PM
Subject: [Muzzleloaders] Re: Reporting back! Shooting 1858 Rem.
I have a 1860 colt army replica, I understood that the cap and ball
revolvers shot low because they were a horse, or calvery gun,
designed to be aimed at the head and would therefore hit in the torso.
-- In Muzzleloaders@yahoogroups.com, "Chuck Borozinski" <chboro@...>
wrote:
>
> Previously had post under subject "New to group".
>
> Chuck here,
>
> Took the 1858 Rem out to a friends shooting range. He's got 20
acres
> out in the middle of nowhere, here in AZ. Nice little range setup,
5
> benches, 3 different yardage locations for targets.
>
> I built a makeshift loading stand to hold the revolver upright. I
> started with 20 grain loads and ended up at 30 before quitting for
> the day. 20 grains loads seemed really wimpy and I couldn't hit a
> darn thing. At 25 grains I got to feel alittle more power and
> accuracy. The 30 grain loads felt almost like my Colt .45.
>
> One thing I will mention is, I was using the #10 caps (which was
> suggested by mfr). They fit on ok, but they sure blew apart. They
> kind of sheared and split when firing. Some were hard to get out
of
> the nipple area.
>
> Is this pretty much normal?
>
> The Revolver is a huge amount of fun and the loading process
doesn't
> bother me that it takes a while.
>
> Sure did need a cleaning afterwards though. After cleaning the
> powder off everything, I found that Nevr DULL worked excellent for
> polishing up the Brass.
>
> Thinking about maybe gett'in a rifle soon. :)
>
> Chuck in AZ
>
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http://www.bp-outdoors.com/muzzleloader.html . . . Muzzleloaders, Shooting,
Hunting and Outdoor resources. Yahoo! Groups Links
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I have a 1860 colt army replica, I understood that the cap and ball
revolvers shot low because they were a horse, or calvery gun,
designed to be aimed at the head and would therefore hit in the torso.
-- In Muzzleloaders@yahoogroups.com, "Chuck Borozinski" <chboro@...>
wrote:
>
> Previously had post under subject "New to group".
>
> Chuck here,
>
> Took the 1858 Rem out to a friends shooting range. He's got 20
acres
> out in the middle of nowhere, here in AZ. Nice little range setup,
5
> benches, 3 different yardage locations for targets.
>
> I built a makeshift loading stand to hold the revolver upright. I
> started with 20 grain loads and ended up at 30 before quitting for
> the day. 20 grains loads seemed really wimpy and I couldn't hit a
> darn thing. At 25 grains I got to feel alittle more power and
> accuracy. The 30 grain loads felt almost like my Colt .45.
>
> One thing I will mention is, I was using the #10 caps (which was
> suggested by mfr). They fit on ok, but they sure blew apart. They
> kind of sheared and split when firing. Some were hard to get out
of
> the nipple area.
>
> Is this pretty much normal?
>
> The Revolver is a huge amount of fun and the loading process
doesn't
> bother me that it takes a while.
>
> Sure did need a cleaning afterwards though. After cleaning the
> powder off everything, I found that Nevr DULL worked excellent for
> polishing up the Brass.
>
> Thinking about maybe gett'in a rifle soon. :)
>
> Chuck in AZ
>
Thanks for that info. I did not know that.
I plan on shooting it again this coming week, and finding out what load
works best.
--- In Muzzleloaders@yahoogroups.com, Thomas Raether <deadguy42@...>
wrote:
>
> The Remingtons have a high front sight blade, the
> reason for this is so that you can find the load that
> works best for you, and once you do, you can file the
> blade down until it is shooti it!ng point of aim for
> your load. Glad you are having fun with it!
>
The Remingtons have a high front sight blade, the
reason for this is so that you can find the load that
works best for you, and once you do, you can file the
blade down until it is shooti it!ng point of aim for
your load. Glad you are having fun with it!
How did you find the accuracy?
Norm
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chuck Borozinski" <chboro@...>
To: <Muzzleloaders@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 3:44 PM
Subject: [Muzzleloaders] Reporting back! Shooting 1858 Rem.
: Previously had post under subject "New to group".
:
: Chuck here,
:
: Took the 1858 Rem out to a friends shooting range. He's got 20 acres
: out in the middle of nowhere, here in AZ. Nice little range setup, 5
: benches, 3 different yardage locations for targets.
:
: I built a makeshift loading stand to hold the revolver upright. I
: started with 20 grain loads and ended up at 30 before quitting for
: the day. 20 grains loads seemed really wimpy and I couldn't hit a
: darn thing. At 25 grains I got to feel alittle more power and
: accuracy. The 30 grain loads felt almost like my Colt .45.
:
: One thing I will mention is, I was using the #10 caps (which was
: suggested by mfr). They fit on ok, but they sure blew apart. They
: kind of sheared and split when firing. Some were hard to get out of
: the nipple area.
:
: Is this pretty much normal?
:
: The Revolver is a huge amount of fun and the loading process doesn't
: bother me that it takes a while.
:
: Sure did need a cleaning afterwards though. After cleaning the
: powder off everything, I found that Nevr DULL worked excellent for
: polishing up the Brass.
:
: Thinking about maybe gett'in a rifle soon. :)
:
: Chuck in AZ
:
:
:
:
:
: ------------------------------------
:
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