I got quite a shock recently when I learned that Greg Marts has passed
away.  He was a regular contributor to this group, had a lot of
knowledge and was never afraid to share it.  He was a true gentleman
and I will miss his wisdom and friendship here.

-Kees-

This is a group for this Rendezvous
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Buckskins_Brisket_Rendezvous

--- In Muzzleloaders@yahoogroups.com, "kees99919" <kees99919@...> wrote:
>
> --- In Muzzleloaders@yahoogroups.com, luke texas <luke_n_texas@>
> wrote:
> >
> > I would like to let everyone know about a new Rendezvous that will
be
> held in historic Jefferson Texas.  It is open to Civilians, Military
> Individuals and Units, American Indians, MountainMen, Trappers, and
> everyone that wants to have a fun weekend.
>
> Sounds like a great weekend to me!  I certainly wish I could make
it.
> I believe the weather will have cooled off a bit by the!
>
> -Kees-
>

--- In Muzzleloaders@yahoogroups.com, luke texas <luke_n_texas@...>
wrote:
>
> I would like to let everyone know about a new Rendezvous that will be
held in historic Jefferson Texas.  It is open to Civilians, Military
Individuals and Units, American Indians, MountainMen, Trappers, and
everyone that wants to have a fun weekend.

Sounds like a great weekend to me!  I certainly wish I could make it.
I believe the weather will have cooled off a bit by the!

-Kees-

I would like to let everyone know about a new Rendezvous that will be held in
historic Jefferson Texas.  It is open to Civilians, Military Individuals and
Units, American Indians, MountainMen, Trappers, and everyone that wants to have
a fun weekend.


   What:   BUCKSKINS & BRISKET RENDEZVOUS

   When:  October 3 - 5, 2008
                  Friday: 9:00 am - 8:00 pm
                  Saturday:  9:00 am - 9:00 pm
                  Sunday:  9:00 am - 3:00 pm

   Where:  Cypress Bayou RV Park
                1602 State Hwy 49 East
                    on Big Cypress Bayou
                 Jefferson, TX  75657

   There will be Pre-1840's Living History Camp and Demonstrations, Primitive
Black Powder Shooting Matches, Tomahawk & Knife Throwing Contests, Period
Vendors, Crafters & Artisans.  There will also IBCA Sanctioned Barbeque
Cook-Off.

   The cost is $3 per person (children 5 and under free).

   Campers are welcome!!!  Pre-1840's dress is definitely encouraged.  Trade Fair
open to Period Craftspeople, Artisans, Vendors, and Demonstrations &
Entertainers.  Lots of space available - first come, first served - no
reservations required.  Set up permitted Thursday afternoon.

   Sponsored by:  Diamond Don Motorsports and Historic Jefferson Railway
   Phone 866-398-2038
   Info@...
   www.DiamondDon.com

   From US Hwy 59, take State Hwy 49 East toward downtown Jefferson.  Go left at
the Y in the road, taking State Hwy 49 East toward Smithland.  Cypress Bayou RV
Park in one mile on the right.  Signs will be posted.  Transportation also
available from the Historic Jefferson Railway at 400 E. Austin in downtown
Jefferson.  Enjoy the beautiful 200 acres of bayou country riding the train in
and around the park.

   COME ONE, COME ALL







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Oh, I really wanted to brag about my deer lease.  But this message was
about bird hunt'in.  Anyhow, we might have an extra place this year on
the lease..  DEER HUNTING>
17,000 acres near Ozona, Tx.  Year 'round feeders, enclosed deer stands,
LOTS of deer.
Lasr year, before Thanksgiving, 4 days if hunting, I counted 48 bucks:
7- 10 points or better, 26-8points, and numerous spikes, forkeys and
others. Does-more bucks thans does.   This place amazes me.  So many
deer.  So much acreage.  So little $.
I should not do this cause I know most people in the East will not
believe me.  AND,  LOL,  I guess I'm bragging about it to!


Cory Stalvey wrote:

>I have 670 acres for lease in Dougherty co. close to Mitchell co. line about 5
miles south of Albany on Hwy. 19 that I will be breaking down into2 different
hunting clubs. All memberships will be $1600 each.I have a 320 acre club and a
350 acre club that I will be putting 5 members on each. Very nice property, lots
of turkeys and deer. Woods consist of plantation pines, creek bottoms and
hardwoods on property. Nice woods to quail hunt on also. I will be taking care
of planting and providing seeds for all food plots on all three tracts.
Approximately 600 sq. ft. metal building with power, water, sewer. Also can hook
up campers. If interested please contact me by pm or email.
>
>deer.buster@...
>
>Th
>
>

I have 670 acres for lease in Dougherty co. close to Mitchell co. line about 5
miles south of Albany on Hwy. 19 that I will be breaking down into2 different
hunting clubs. All memberships will be $1600 each.I have a 320 acre club and a
350 acre club that I will be putting 5 members on each. Very nice property, lots
of turkeys and deer. Woods consist of plantation pines, creek bottoms and
hardwoods on property. Nice woods to quail hunt on also. I will be taking care
of planting and providing seeds for all food plots on all three tracts.
Approximately 600 sq. ft. metal building with power, water, sewer. Also can hook
up campers. If interested please contact me by pm or email.

deer.buster@...

Thanks
We are selling dove field memberships for our private 90 acre dove field. Over
400 doves killed in one hunt alone last year. Last year we only planted 50 acres
and consistently saw 500 to 700 birds each hunt. $175.00 per membership.

Dove field will be planted in sunflower, dove proso, corn, & millet. We will
chop and mow as feed is needed for the birds leaving strips for cover. Power
line runs through the center of the field for the entire distance. There is a
small pond in the center of the field where the birds like to water. This field
has it ALL! Lots of good positions for all.

This field is planted strictly as a dove field and is in a major flyway with an
excellent history for a lot of birds. If you join one dove field this year it
needs to be this one. There is a pecan orchard near the field that the birds
like to roost in.

We will shoot this field when the birds are there. We will not gaurantee 2
shoots per week or anything like that. The field has a history of birds being
there consistently. For $175 per person, you can't ask for a better price.
Regardless of the number of memberships sold, the whole 90 acres will be planted
and the field will be shot. We shoot this field every year. I would just like
some help covering the cost of planting the field this year.

bbp@...
deer.buster@...


850-443-0482 Lyle
229-563-6131 Cory
I am now offering duck memberships for a 250 acre duck pond in Brooks, Co. Ga.
The pond is a private pond I am leasing directly through the land owner. There
is a steady stream of a minimum of 600-800 woodies in this pond. LOT of open
water with some scattered cypress trees throughout the pond. There is also lot
of open water amongst some thicker trees in the back of the pond. There are some
other scattered species of ducks other than woodies in this pond. This pond was
only shot 3-4 times last year by one guy and two of his friends. We will plant
some rice,millet, etc. around the edges of the pond. In the future, the land
owner is going to dig a pond off the back of this lake to plant and flood also.
We will shoot a minimum of 4-6 shoots per year. All shoots will be organized
shoots conducted by me. I will call every member every time we plan a shoot with
at least a 7 day notice. We plan to build a few floating blinds, some around the
edges of the lake
  also. We will have designated spots for you to bring your own small boats with
electric motors only. Memberships will be $750 per person per year with the
right to bring a guest each time you hunt. Your $750.00 buys you a two gun
position. If you have any other questions, please feel free to contact me. I can
show the Duck pond at anytime. We will post pictures early next week.


Thanks, Lyle
850-443-0482
bbp@...




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this isn't scientific, but.... it HAPPENED... in the 1970's I bought my late
father Bernard a reproduction Army Remington, we went to the range and he
couldn't hit paper with it... my ex MP dad said, "let's try 100 yards"... all
six hit paper at 100 yards...

just an experience to share on this thread

O'Connell
www.kings8th.com

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No , the old revolvers shoot high , need a taller front sight !
Gary
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: pat
   To: Muzzleloaders@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2008 7:45 PM
   Subject: [Muzzleloaders] Re: Reporting back! Shooting 1858 Rem.


   I have a 1860 colt army replica, I understood that the cap and ball
   revolvers shot low because they were a horse, or calvery gun,
   designed to be aimed at the head and would therefore hit in the torso.






   -- In Muzzleloaders@yahoogroups.com, "Chuck Borozinski" <chboro@...>
   wrote:
   >
   > Previously had post under subject "New to group".
   >
   > Chuck here,
   >
   > Took the 1858 Rem out to a friends shooting range. He's got 20
   acres
   > out in the middle of nowhere, here in AZ.  Nice little range setup,
   5
   > benches, 3 different yardage locations for targets.
   >
   > I built a makeshift loading stand to hold the revolver upright.  I
   > started with 20 grain loads and ended up at 30 before quitting for
   > the day.  20 grains loads seemed really wimpy and I couldn't hit a
   > darn thing.  At 25 grains I got to feel alittle more power and
   > accuracy.  The 30 grain loads felt almost like my Colt .45.
   >
   > One thing I will mention is, I was using the #10 caps (which was
   > suggested by mfr).  They fit on ok, but they sure blew apart.  They
   > kind of sheared and split when firing.  Some were hard to get out
   of
   > the nipple area.
   >
   > Is this pretty much normal?
   >
   > The Revolver is a huge amount of fun and the loading process
   doesn't
   > bother me that it takes a while.
   >
   > Sure did need a cleaning afterwards though.  After cleaning the
   > powder off everything, I found that Nevr DULL worked excellent for
   > polishing up the Brass.
   >
   > Thinking about maybe gett'in a rifle soon.  :)
   >
   > Chuck in AZ
   >



   ------------------------------------

   http://www.bp-outdoors.com/muzzleloader.html . . . Muzzleloaders, Shooting,
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I have a 1860 colt army replica, I understood that the cap and ball
revolvers shot low because they were a horse, or calvery gun,
designed to be aimed at the head and would therefore hit in the torso.






-- In Muzzleloaders@yahoogroups.com, "Chuck Borozinski" <chboro@...>
wrote:
>
> Previously had post under subject "New to group".
>
> Chuck here,
>
> Took the 1858 Rem out to a friends shooting range. He's got 20
acres
> out in the middle of nowhere, here in AZ.  Nice little range setup,
5
> benches, 3 different yardage locations for targets.
>
> I built a makeshift loading stand to hold the revolver upright.  I
> started with 20 grain loads and ended up at 30 before quitting for
> the day.  20 grains loads seemed really wimpy and I couldn't hit a
> darn thing.  At 25 grains I got to feel alittle more power and
> accuracy.  The 30 grain loads felt almost like my Colt .45.
>
> One thing I will mention is, I was using the #10 caps (which was
> suggested by mfr).  They fit on ok, but they sure blew apart.  They
> kind of sheared and split when firing.  Some were hard to get out
of
> the nipple area.
>
> Is this pretty much normal?
>
> The Revolver is a huge amount of fun and the loading process
doesn't
> bother me that it takes a while.
>
> Sure did need a cleaning afterwards though.  After cleaning the
> powder off everything, I found that Nevr DULL worked excellent for
> polishing up the Brass.
>
> Thinking about maybe gett'in a rifle soon.  :)
>
> Chuck in AZ
>

Thanks for that info.  I did not know that.

I plan on shooting it again this coming week, and finding out what load
works best.



--- In Muzzleloaders@yahoogroups.com, Thomas Raether <deadguy42@...>
wrote:
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> The Remingtons have a high front sight blade, the
> reason for this is so that you can find the load that
> works best for you, and once you do, you can file the
> blade down until it is shooti it!ng point of aim for
> your load.  Glad you are having fun with it!
>

The Remingtons have a high front sight blade, the
reason for this is so that you can find the load that
works best for you, and once you do, you can file the
blade down until it is shooti it!ng point of aim for
your load.  Glad you are having fun with it!

Contrary to shooting my .45.  I found the Rem was low all the time.

Chuck

--- In Muzzleloaders@yahoogroups.com, "Remington1858"
<Remington1858@...> wrote:
>
> How did you find the accuracy?
> Norm
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chuck Borozinski" <chboro@...>
> To: <Muzzleloaders@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 3:44 PM
> Subject: [Muzzleloaders] Reporting back! Shooting 1858 Rem.
>
>
> : Previously had post under subject "New to group".
> :
> : Chuck here,
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> : Took the 1858 Rem out to a friends shooting range. He's got 20
acres
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> :
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> : started with 20 grain loads and ended up at 30 before quitting for
> : the day.  20 grains loads seemed really wimpy and I couldn't hit a
> : darn thing.  At 25 grains I got to feel alittle more power and
> : accuracy.  The 30 grain loads felt almost like my Colt .45.
> :
> : One thing I will mention is, I was using the #10 caps (which was
> : suggested by mfr).  They fit on ok, but they sure blew apart.
They
> : kind of sheared and split when firing.  Some were hard to get out
of
> : the nipple area.
> :
> : Is this pretty much normal?
> :
> : The Revolver is a huge amount of fun and the loading process
doesn't
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> :
> : Sure did need a cleaning afterwards though.  After cleaning the
> : powder off everything, I found that Nevr DULL worked excellent for
> : polishing up the Brass.
> :
> : Thinking about maybe gett'in a rifle soon.  :)
> :
> : Chuck in AZ
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> : ------------------------------------
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> : http://www.bp-outdoors.com/muzzleloader.html . . . Muzzleloaders,
> Shooting, Hunting and Outdoor resources. Yahoo! Groups Links
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How did you find the accuracy?
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Chuck Borozinski" <chboro@...>
To: <Muzzleloaders@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 3:44 PM
Subject: [Muzzleloaders] Reporting back! Shooting 1858 Rem.


: Previously had post under subject "New to group".
:
: Chuck here,
:
: Took the 1858 Rem out to a friends shooting range. He's got 20 acres
: out in the middle of nowhere, here in AZ.  Nice little range setup, 5
: benches, 3 different yardage locations for targets.
:
: I built a makeshift loading stand to hold the revolver upright.  I
: started with 20 grain loads and ended up at 30 before quitting for
: the day.  20 grains loads seemed really wimpy and I couldn't hit a
: darn thing.  At 25 grains I got to feel alittle more power and
: accuracy.  The 30 grain loads felt almost like my Colt .45.
:
: One thing I will mention is, I was using the #10 caps (which was
: suggested by mfr).  They fit on ok, but they sure blew apart.  They
: kind of sheared and split when firing.  Some were hard to get out of
: the nipple area.
:
: Is this pretty much normal?
:
: The Revolver is a huge amount of fun and the loading process doesn't
: bother me that it takes a while.
:
: Sure did need a cleaning afterwards though.  After cleaning the
: powder off everything, I found that Nevr DULL worked excellent for
: polishing up the Brass.
:
: Thinking about maybe gett'in a rifle soon.  :)
:
: Chuck in AZ
:
:
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: ------------------------------------
:
: http://www.bp-outdoors.com/muzzleloader.html . . . Muzzleloaders,
Shooting, Hunting and Outdoor resources. Yahoo! Groups Links
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Previously had post under subject "New to group".

Chuck here,

Took the 1858 Rem out to a friends shooting range. He's got 20 acres
out in the middle of nowhere, here in AZ.  Nice little range setup, 5
benches, 3 different yardage locations for targets.

I built a makeshift loading stand to hold the revolver upright.  I
started with 20 grain loads and ended up at 30 before quitting for
the day.  20 grains loads seemed really wimpy and I couldn't hit a
darn thing.  At 25 grains I got to feel alittle more power and
accuracy.  The 30 grain loads felt almost like my Colt .45.

One thing I will mention is, I was using the #10 caps (which was
suggested by mfr).  They fit on ok, but they sure blew apart.  They
kind of sheared and split when firing.  Some were hard to get out of
the nipple area.

Is this pretty much normal?

The Revolver is a huge amount of fun and the loading process doesn't
bother me that it takes a while.

Sure did need a cleaning afterwards though.  After cleaning the
powder off everything, I found that Nevr DULL worked excellent for
polishing up the Brass.

Thinking about maybe gett'in a rifle soon.  :)

Chuck in AZ

thank you for clarifying that !!!   i was thinking about shooting my 1858 remmy
today and really wasnt in the mood for dealing with the grease over the ball.  
i have quite a few wads and mights as well use them.   i really like my remmy ,
it is my first blackpowder revolver.   however i have an itch for a colt or remy
pocket revolver maybe even in 31 caliber.   found one a few weeks ago , and
pondered about it too long and someone else grabbed it.

   thanks and have fun ,

   d

Thomas Raether <deadguy42@...> wrote:
           Oh, and just to clarify, these wads go BETWEEN the
powder and the ball, not in front of the ball or
anywhere else!





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Oh, and just to clarify, these wads go BETWEEN the
powder and the ball, not in front of the ball or
anywhere else!

If these discs are impregnated with lube, then yes,
they replace the lube that you would otherwise fill
the chamber mouth with,  If not, then you need to melt
some BP lube and soak the felt discs in it for a
little while, then remove them and let dry before you
use them.  Many people prefer to use the felt discs
because they are easier and less messy than loose
lube.  If you run out, the best deal I've seen on the
lubricated felt discs is at www.bpstuffllc.com .

Some round felt(?) discs came with the starter kit for the Remington 1858
Replica.  Do these replace the grease or lube that is placed over the loaded
chamber on the cylinder?  Thanks all!
Norm

Thank you for insights Thomas.  I wondered about the type of percussion cap
to use - #10 or #11.  The Remington came with a powder measure, nipple
wrench, powder horn, .44 balls, wads, and a percussion capping tool.  I'll
start with FFFg Pyrodex and see how it shoots.  I think I'll make my own
loading stand as they don't appear to be overly complicated.  Thanks again.

Norm

The Remington replicas are a great revolver to start
with.  You'll need black powder or substitutes,
percussion caps (try #10's and #11's of various brands
to see which your gun prefers), and if you plan on
shooting it a lot, get some Treso or Thunder Ridge
bronze or stainless nipples for it.  A loading stand
(the kind that holds the revolver upright) would also
be advisable.  You will also need bullet lube.  Any
kind of black powder lube will work, though you can
also use Crisco instead.  I make my own at home using
one part wax (beewax or paraffin work just fine), one
part vegetable shortening, and one part olive oil.
You can make the lube harder or softer to your
preference by adding or subtracting wax.  And, last,
but not least, you'll need balls, try .454" diameter
ones. To load, dump powder into the cylinder, anywhere
from a .45 acp case full to a full cylinder will work
(less if you use 777), you'll have to play with the
amount until you find what shoots best in your gun,
put in the ball, seat it with the rammer, and fill the
remaining space with your lube.  Then, you put a cap
on each loaded cylinder and you are ready to fire.
Have fun!

Hi everybody.  I've just joined this Group as I've purchased a 1858
Remington Revolver replica.  I seek to learn tips and tricks and insights
into black powder shooting sports.  I'm a NRA Instructor in Basic Pistol,
Shotgun, Personal Protection in the Home, and a RSO.  Thanks all!
Norm


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Yes, in theory.  R. O. Ackerman used a concoction of beeswax and Sears bearing
grease, the old timey stuff, not the new super lubricants.  It was sort of
tannish green, and really stiff stuff.  I think he heated it, to get it to mix. 
That could be an interesting job too.  I think I remember putting a wad under
the ball and lube over the ball.  Did that to an original revolver, a Savage
Navy gun, I think.  Worn nipples.  Multiple discharge.  Ball passed by my right
eye, leaving a trace of residue on the side of my head.  I never, ever, shot an
original gun after that.  Nothing but reproductions.  Careful preparation is the
secret to safety.  When we get too familiar with our guns, bad things start to
happen.  Love and cherish that gun, but respect it above all else.


----- Original Message -----
From: Chuck Borozinski
To: Muzzleloaders@yahoogroups.com
Sent: 4/8/2008 8:27:04 PM
Subject: [Muzzleloaders] Re: New to the Group


So....am I right in saying that, if I make sure my caps are not loose
and also lube over the ball I should be alright?

Everyone! Thanks for all the information.

Chuck
Arizona

--- In Muzzleloaders@yahoogroups.com, "The Backwards Turtle"
<backwardsturtle2@...> wrote:
>
> Battered, worn nipples and/or loose fitting caps will cause
multiple discharges. I speak from experience. If you're shooting
targets, and four or five cylinders let go at once, it's possible to
shoot yourself, depending on the weapon.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: kees99919
> To: Muzzleloaders@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: 4/8/2008 5:03:03 PM
> Subject: [Muzzleloaders] Re: New to the Group
>
>
> While the majority seem to feel that a chain fire happens at the
front
> of the cylinder, there is another group that says it is at the
> percussion cap. I tend to go with this later theory, even though I
> have religiously greased the mouth of the cylinder after loading. I
> say this because I had a Navy Arms (?) "Rebel" brass framed .44
Colt
> replica which regularly gave me chain fires, even though the fronts
of
> the chambers were greased. I eventually got rid of it. Never had a
> problem with my .36 Dixie replica of the Navy Colt.
>
> -Kees-
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>




[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

So....am I right in saying that, if I make sure my caps are not loose
and also lube over the ball I should be alright?

Everyone!  Thanks for all the information.

Chuck
Arizona


--- In Muzzleloaders@yahoogroups.com, "The Backwards Turtle"
<backwardsturtle2@...> wrote:
>
> Battered, worn nipples and/or loose fitting caps will cause
multiple discharges.  I speak from experience.  If you're shooting
targets, and four or five cylinders let go at once, it's possible to
shoot yourself, depending on the weapon.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: kees99919
> To: Muzzleloaders@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: 4/8/2008 5:03:03 PM
> Subject: [Muzzleloaders] Re: New to the Group
>
>
> While the majority seem to feel that a chain fire happens at the
front
> of the cylinder, there is another group that says it is at the
> percussion cap. I tend to go with this later theory, even though I
> have religiously greased the mouth of the cylinder after loading. I
> say this because I had a Navy Arms (?) "Rebel" brass framed .44
Colt
> replica which regularly gave me chain fires, even though the fronts
of
> the chambers were greased. I eventually got rid of it. Never had a
> problem with my .36 Dixie replica of the Navy Colt.
>
> -Kees-
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Battered, worn nipples and/or loose fitting caps will cause multiple discharges.
I speak from experience.  If you're shooting targets, and four or five cylinders
let go at once, it's possible to shoot yourself, depending on the weapon.


----- Original Message -----
From: kees99919
To: Muzzleloaders@yahoogroups.com
Sent: 4/8/2008 5:03:03 PM
Subject: [Muzzleloaders] Re: New to the Group


While the majority seem to feel that a chain fire happens at the front
of the cylinder, there is another group that says it is at the
percussion cap. I tend to go with this later theory, even though I
have religiously greased the mouth of the cylinder after loading. I
say this because I had a Navy Arms (?) "Rebel" brass framed .44 Colt
replica which regularly gave me chain fires, even though the fronts of
the chambers were greased. I eventually got rid of it. Never had a
problem with my .36 Dixie replica of the Navy Colt.

-Kees-




[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

While the majority seem to feel that a chain fire happens at the front
of the cylinder, there is another group that says it is at the
percussion cap.  I tend to go with this later theory, even though I
have religiously greased the mouth of the cylinder after loading.  I
say this because I had a Navy Arms (?) "Rebel" brass framed .44 Colt
replica which regularly gave me chain fires, even though the fronts of
the chambers were greased.  I eventually got rid of it.  Never had a
problem with my .36 Dixie replica of the Navy Colt.

-Kees-

Hey Guys,

Thanks for all the helpful information.  I didn't get a chance to get
to the range last week, but hope to this week.

To the person from Arizona -  I live down a little south of Casa
Grande.  Quite a ways from Lake Havasu.

The reason I asked those questions concerning chain firing was,
because when I was purchasing my Colt 45 for the Re-enactment group I
joined, the sales guy was very much against black powder.

Most of the time I know informaion like that is passed down and he
really didn't have an experience of it happening to him.  I'm with
you guys on the safety thing.  I believe you don't or won't need to
worry about it,if you don't try and cut corners.

When I go to the range this week I'll probably just load up one
cylinder and fire it to make sure I get the process down.  I have
some black powder pistol lube that came in my kit from Cabelas.

It should be fun!

BTW - Our re-enactment group will be down in Tombstone during Wyatt
Earp days in May.  If ya get a chance........come on down!



--- In Muzzleloaders@yahoogroups.com, "jimlstrong" <strongjl@...>
wrote:
>
> --- In Muzzleloaders@yahoogroups.com, "Dave" <deaton@> wrote:
> >
> > Chuck:
> >
> > Welcome to the sport and hobby of black powder firearms.
> >
> > Having owned and used several black powder handguns both
flintlock
> > and precussion my advise to you as a newby would be follow the
> safety
> > precautions suggested in any literature that came with the
firearm.
> > In all of my personal experience with black powder revolving
> firearms
> > I have never experienced a "chain fire" situation, nor have I
heard
> > of it happening with anyone that I know.
> >
> > Here are two methods I have used to prevent this situation from
> > occurring which have been satisfactory for me anyway.
> >
> > #1 After charging the cylinder with powder and seating the ball
> fill
> > the remaining part of the chamber with black powder grease which
> can
> > be obtained from vendors such as "Dixie Gun Works". This method
is
> > the least expensive.
> >
> > #2 Vendors such as "Dixie Gun Works" also sell a pre-cut felt
> wadding
> > in all calibers that are manufactured of black powder revolvers.
> > Again after charging the chamber with powder and seating the
> > projectile place one of these felt wads on top of the projectile
> and
> > press it down so that it is flush with the face of the cylinder
so
> > that they won't bind the cylinder when it is rotated to the next
> > chamber.
> >
> > While black powder and muzzle loading firearms are a bit labor
> > intensive I believe that you will find they are an enjoyable
sector
> > of the shooting sports.
> >
> > By the way Chuck, what part of Arizona? I'm located in Lake
Havasu
> > City over on the Colorado River.
> >
> > Best Regards
> >
> > Dave Eaton
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In Muzzleloaders@yahoogroups.com, "Chuck Borozinski"
<chboro@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi All,
> > >
> > > I am totally new to Black Powder, and even after reading
> > discussions
> > > on the Brass Frame model, I bought it anyhow. :)  My plan is to
> use
> > > modest loads (25gr as suggested by someone), and find the best
> > method
> > > (if there is any) to use it to fire blank loads. I like the
> > revolver
> > > because it is a little out of the norm. I've read it was just
> used
> > by
> > > the confederacy because they chose to use most of their steel
on
> > > Cannons and other arms.
> > >
> > > I recently joined a re-enactment group, have a Colt 45, but
plan
> > also
> > > to have this Remington on my gunbelt.
> > >
> > > Sorry for the long post, but I would like to know just how
often
> > this
> > > Chainfire situation can happen.  Is this one of those operator
> > things
> > > where if you take your time and do it right, it won't happen?
> > >
> > > Plus, when you use bore lube or grease of some kind, where does
> it
> > > all go? Does it ignite and become part of the smoke?
> > >
> > > I did mention that I was totally new to black powder!  :)
> > > I plan to take my Remington to the range this week, and I'll
> report
> > > back.
> > >
> > > Any advice or suggestions on helping me enjoy this Black Powder
> > > revolver is appreciated.
> > >
> > > Chuck
> > > Arizona
> > >
> >Hi All
>
> Even with getting a sliver of lead from the ball when loading  my
> next step is to plug all the cylinders with the cheapest shortning
> (Crisco) found in the supermarket. It stinks like the cookies burnt
> in the oven when you shoot but never had a crossover fire. I am not
> looking forward to one either. Have 2 pistols - the .44 magnum
Walker
> and a .44 brass buffalo. I have shot at least 700 rounds thru each
> and like plinking targets at 75 yards for each. I recommend looking
> over the pistols manual and making sure you have enough powder to
get
> the ball out of the barrel. I would think 25 grains should do it
but
> check with a measured stick to make sure. I am a bit parinoid
> (spelling bad) about safety as we usually all tend to be - I hope.
>
> Jim
> Mn
>

--- In Muzzleloaders@yahoogroups.com, "Dave" <deaton@...> wrote:
>
> Chuck:
>
> Welcome to the sport and hobby of black powder firearms.
>
> Having owned and used several black powder handguns both flintlock
> and precussion my advise to you as a newby would be follow the
safety
> precautions suggested in any literature that came with the firearm.
> In all of my personal experience with black powder revolving
firearms
> I have never experienced a "chain fire" situation, nor have I heard
> of it happening with anyone that I know.
>
> Here are two methods I have used to prevent this situation from
> occurring which have been satisfactory for me anyway.
>
> #1 After charging the cylinder with powder and seating the ball
fill
> the remaining part of the chamber with black powder grease which
can
> be obtained from vendors such as "Dixie Gun Works". This method is
> the least expensive.
>
> #2 Vendors such as "Dixie Gun Works" also sell a pre-cut felt
wadding
> in all calibers that are manufactured of black powder revolvers.
> Again after charging the chamber with powder and seating the
> projectile place one of these felt wads on top of the projectile
and
> press it down so that it is flush with the face of the cylinder so
> that they won't bind the cylinder when it is rotated to the next
> chamber.
>
> While black powder and muzzle loading firearms are a bit labor
> intensive I believe that you will find they are an enjoyable sector
> of the shooting sports.
>
> By the way Chuck, what part of Arizona? I'm located in Lake Havasu
> City over on the Colorado River.
>
> Best Regards
>
> Dave Eaton
>
>
>
>
> --- In Muzzleloaders@yahoogroups.com, "Chuck Borozinski" <chboro@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I am totally new to Black Powder, and even after reading
> discussions
> > on the Brass Frame model, I bought it anyhow. :)  My plan is to
use
> > modest loads (25gr as suggested by someone), and find the best
> method
> > (if there is any) to use it to fire blank loads. I like the
> revolver
> > because it is a little out of the norm. I've read it was just
used
> by
> > the confederacy because they chose to use most of their steel on
> > Cannons and other arms.
> >
> > I recently joined a re-enactment group, have a Colt 45, but plan
> also
> > to have this Remington on my gunbelt.
> >
> > Sorry for the long post, but I would like to know just how often
> this
> > Chainfire situation can happen.  Is this one of those operator
> things
> > where if you take your time and do it right, it won't happen?
> >
> > Plus, when you use bore lube or grease of some kind, where does
it
> > all go? Does it ignite and become part of the smoke?
> >
> > I did mention that I was totally new to black powder!  :)
> > I plan to take my Remington to the range this week, and I'll
report
> > back.
> >
> > Any advice or suggestions on helping me enjoy this Black Powder
> > revolver is appreciated.
> >
> > Chuck
> > Arizona
> >
>Hi All

Even with getting a sliver of lead from the ball when loading  my
next step is to plug all the cylinders with the cheapest shortning
(Crisco) found in the supermarket. It stinks like the cookies burnt
in the oven when you shoot but never had a crossover fire. I am not
looking forward to one either. Have 2 pistols - the .44 magnum Walker
and a .44 brass buffalo. I have shot at least 700 rounds thru each
and like plinking targets at 75 yards for each. I recommend looking
over the pistols manual and making sure you have enough powder to get
the ball out of the barrel. I would think 25 grains should do it but
check with a measured stick to make sure. I am a bit parinoid
(spelling bad) about safety as we usually all tend to be - I hope.

Jim
Mn

Chuck:

Welcome to the sport and hobby of black powder firearms.

Having owned and used several black powder handguns both flintlock
and precussion my advise to you as a newby would be follow the safety
precautions suggested in any literature that came with the firearm.
In all of my personal experience with black powder revolving firearms
I have never experienced a "chain fire" situation, nor have I heard
of it happening with anyone that I know.

Here are two methods I have used to prevent this situation from
occurring which have been satisfactory for me anyway.

#1 After charging the cylinder with powder and seating the ball fill
the remaining part of the chamber with black powder grease which can
be obtained from vendors such as "Dixie Gun Works". This method is
the least expensive.

#2 Vendors such as "Dixie Gun Works" also sell a pre-cut felt wadding
in all calibers that are manufactured of black powder revolvers.
Again after charging the chamber with powder and seating the
projectile place one of these felt wads on top of the projectile and
press it down so that it is flush with the face of the cylinder so
that they won't bind the cylinder when it is rotated to the next
chamber.

While black powder and muzzle loading firearms are a bit labor
intensive I believe that you will find they are an enjoyable sector
of the shooting sports.

By the way Chuck, what part of Arizona? I'm located in Lake Havasu
City over on the Colorado River.

Best Regards

Dave Eaton




--- In Muzzleloaders@yahoogroups.com, "Chuck Borozinski" <chboro@...>
wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> I am totally new to Black Powder, and even after reading
discussions
> on the Brass Frame model, I bought it anyhow. :)  My plan is to use
> modest loads (25gr as suggested by someone), and find the best
method
> (if there is any) to use it to fire blank loads. I like the
revolver
> because it is a little out of the norm. I've read it was just used
by
> the confederacy because they chose to use most of their steel on
> Cannons and other arms.
>
> I recently joined a re-enactment group, have a Colt 45, but plan
also
> to have this Remington on my gunbelt.
>
> Sorry for the long post, but I would like to know just how often
this
> Chainfire situation can happen.  Is this one of those operator
things
> where if you take your time and do it right, it won't happen?
>
> Plus, when you use bore lube or grease of some kind, where does it
> all go? Does it ignite and become part of the smoke?
>
> I did mention that I was totally new to black powder!  :)
> I plan to take my Remington to the range this week, and I'll report
> back.
>
> Any advice or suggestions on helping me enjoy this Black Powder
> revolver is appreciated.
>
> Chuck
> Arizona
>

Hey Chuck
   Just for the record, the grease generally will add some WHITE smoke to the
   blackpowder smoke so don't be too alarmed.....
   Welcome to a great sport (obsession?) just remember to be safe and when
testing
   some new load, proceed carefully.....    :>)
   roger in
NWMontana**************************************************************


Bryan Womack <grizs50@...> wrote:
   Hi Chuck,

If you use balls that leave a tiny ring of lead when
you load and you use grease, you will minimize the
chances of a chain fire, I have never had it happen
and I have shot several thousand rounds at this point.
Now that I said that it will probly happen.

The grease just blows a way and it will make the gun
greasy but it's easy to clean up with soap and hot
water.

Welcome to the sport it's a blast.






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Hi Chuck,

If you use balls that leave a tiny ring of lead when
you load and you use grease, you will minimize the
chances of a chain fire, I have never had it happen
and I have shot several thousand rounds at this point.
Now that I said that it will probly happen.

The grease just blows a way and it will make the gun
greasy but it's easy to clean up with soap and hot
water.

Welcome to the sport it's a blast.

--- Chuck Borozinski <chboro@...> wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> I am totally new to Black Powder, and even after
> reading discussions
> on the Brass Frame model, I bought it anyhow. :)  My
> plan is to use
> modest loads (25gr as suggested by someone), and
> find the best method
> (if there is any) to use it to fire blank loads. I
> like the revolver
> because it is a little out of the norm. I've read it
> was just used by
> the confederacy because they chose to use most of
> their steel on
> Cannons and other arms.
>
> I recently joined a re-enactment group, have a Colt
> 45, but plan also
> to have this Remington on my gunbelt.
>
> Sorry for the long post, but I would like to know
> just how often this
> Chainfire situation can happen.  Is this one of
> those operator things
> where if you take your time and do it right, it
> won't happen?
>
> Plus, when you use bore lube or grease of some kind,
> where does it
> all go? Does it ignite and become part of the smoke?
>
> I did mention that I was totally new to black
> powder!  :)
> I plan to take my Remington to the range this week,
> and I'll report
> back.
>
> Any advice or suggestions on helping me enjoy this
> Black Powder
> revolver is appreciated.
>
> Chuck
> Arizona
>
>
>
>


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