I got started almost the same way. Welcome to the beginning of a
great journey,... (That never ends.)

G_R_P

Bikn4god2, George.......Thanks for the welcome.  I was beginning to
think there was no one home.  :-)



--- In Muzzleloaders@yahoogroups.com, "George" <g_r_p50@y...> wrote:
> I got started almost the same way. Welcome to the beginning of a
> great journey,... (That never ends.)
>
> G_R_P

I have a CVA brand Colt 1861 Army revolver with a brass frame. Do any
of you have one of these? I'm a little worried about the frame being
too soft for a full charge of 30gr. FFF powder. That is what I use in
my 1858 Remington New Model Army. If anyone has any advice, I would
greatly appreciate it.

Take care and keep Christ in your heart,

Terry

A long time ago, I had a 3rd Dragoon with a steel frame. Not having a
clue, I loaded it with heavy loads and sprung it all out of whack. I
suspect that the quality of the gun played a part. I think it was
made from old toasters forged in a dung fire in the middle east
actually.

There is nothing to prevent you from shooting 10-15 grain charges in
your gun. I shoot light and don't use a filler, just grease the
openings with Crisco, don't pack it solid, just cover the holes. I
have an all steel 36 that I shoot mild charges in. Accuracy is very
good. If you'd like, call CVA and ask them maybe.

Good luck

G_R_P

Hello all and good day to you.  I have a Thompson Center Arms
Cherokee (don't know if i spelled that correctly) 32 cal and need a
the wedge pin.  I think that is what you call it.  It holds the
barrel to the stock.  Anyways, is there a good website available for
getting things like this?  Can anyone make a suggestion?

Thanks all
Watch your top knot.

Why not contact Thompson-Center directly?

Thompson/Center Arms
P.O. Box 5002
Rochester, NH, USA 03866-5002

Phone(603)332-2333
Fax(603)332-5133


----- Original Message -----
From: "Dale" <drambuie@...>
To: <Muzzleloaders@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2003 5:08 PM
Subject: [Muzzleloaders] Wedge Pin


> Hello all and good day to you.  I have a Thompson Center Arms
> Cherokee (don't know if i spelled that correctly) 32 cal and need a
> the wedge pin.  I think that is what you call it.  It holds the
> barrel to the stock.  Anyways, is there a good website available for
> getting things like this?  Can anyone make a suggestion?
>
> Thanks all
> Watch your top knot.
>
>
>
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Hey guys, recently found you because I have a rifle to sell.  It is a
Thompson Centerarms 50 caliber, black-powder, muzzleloader,
percussion that is in very good condition.  I'm no enthhusiast so I
don't know much about it, but it has two triggers, multiple "finger
rests" at the trigger area, and the loading "stick" all in great
shape.  Nice wood stock has a few slight scratches on it and the
sights are the adjustable type.  Also, the barrel is the octagon
shape.  If anyone is interested, email me at
tigerpantherblazer@....  I've looked at some similar gun
prices and will let this go for a pretty good deal.

Thanks,
Alan

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Hey, all

Just found this group and happy to be here. Have a serious question.
I would like to purchase an 1861 Springfield reproduction and
possibly get into reinacting but that would be months away.

There are several of these on the market. Can anybody advise as to
which is the best and most reliable? Would be grateful for any help
you can give me.

Luke Angelo
(Hailing from Macon, Georgia...the little city that time forgot.)

I have been using 25 grains fffg, with poor accuracy, should I
increase or decrease the load; or is that just the nature of the
gun???
I get maybe one in three in the black at 25 yards.

Most .44 cal revolvers shoot best with 30 grains of fffg. Another
consideration is the size of the ball. You probably will need a .454
round ball but I have a remington new model army that shoots a .457.
The old timers that I shoot with say that you want the ball to shave
a ring or close to it when you seat it. I have never had a gun that
was made well enough to shave a ring but look for that real good fit.

As far as powder charges go, move up or down in five grain increments
and look for the best group. Try five shots with 20 grains, then five
shots with 25 grains, then 30 cleaning in between the groups.

Well, that's my tidbit of advice. Keep Christ in your heart,

Terry




--- In Muzzleloaders@yahoogroups.com, "David" <shcokete@y...> wrote:
> I have been using 25 grains fffg, with poor accuracy, should I
> increase or decrease the load; or is that just the nature of the
> gun???
> I get maybe one in three in the black at 25 yards.

I'm a hunter/fisherman that lives in Norman, Oklahoma (south
approximately 20 miles from Oklahoma City). I enjoy hunting with
muzzleloaders, and I pursue deer and turkey with smokepoles. I'm not
a traditionalist: over time, I have switched from my Hawkin to a
breakopen rifle using .209 shotshell primers, and I hunt turkeys with
a Knight shotgun. I'm looking forward to discussing muzzleloaders
with the group, and hopefully learning a thing or two.

--hunter720

What is the range most rendevous use for target competions.  Just
curious to know what range to practice.

Thanks, John

I just joined the list and have a couple of questions:

can anyone recommend a good, reasonably priced starter flintlock,
traditional styling, rifle, musket, and pistol?

can anyone think of any advantages a flintlock would have over a
cartridge firearm as a survival weapon?

William

My opinion is that a flintlock would make a terible survival weapon.
They are to prone to moisture in the pan. They are a lot of fun
though. One of the most popular caplock and flintlock rifles out
there is the Thompson center Hawkins. They are really good rifles in
you happen to like that style. CVA rifle are a lot cheaper but I
never really cared for them. Tradition Firearms has some decent
looking stuff out there but I have not fire anything of theirs other
than my inline which is fairly decent. I have killed two deer with it.

There are a lot of good revolvers out there. I would recommend a
Remington 1858 New Model Army or a Colt 1861 Army. Stay away from the
brass frame ones though. They are cheaper but will not stand up to a
lots of shooting.

Take care and keep Christ in your heart,

Terry




--- In Muzzleloaders@yahoogroups.com, "capnwilliam"
<capnwilliam@y...> wrote:
> I just joined the list and have a couple of questions:
>
> can anyone recommend a good, reasonably priced starter flintlock,
> traditional styling, rifle, musket, and pistol?
>
> can anyone think of any advantages a flintlock would have over a
> cartridge firearm as a survival weapon?
>
> William

If you can make the powder, find flint, and keep your flintlock well-
maintained it will survive as long as you can.  If you run out of
lead you can always fire pebbles.  A cartridge rifle is great as
long as you can get the cartridges.  It was a non-industrial society
that substained life with the flintlock.

If you are in the northeast there will be a large muzzleloaders
selling event at Dixon's in south central PA on the weekend of July
26. www.dixonmuzzleloading.com You will find a great assortment of
flintlocks there both from the gunmakers who are on the grounds and
in the shop.  A traditional flintlock rifle can range from $300 to
$900 and then way up.  Tennessee Valley Muzzleloaders make a good
flintlock - rifles and smoothbore - handmade with good locks and
barrels for around $850.

--- In Muzzleloaders@yahoogroups.com, "capnwilliam"
<capnwilliam@y...> wrote:
> I just joined the list and have a couple of questions:
>
> can anyone recommend a good, reasonably priced starter flintlock,
> traditional styling, rifle, musket, and pistol?
>
> can anyone think of any advantages a flintlock would have over a
> cartridge firearm as a survival weapon?
>
> William

--- In Muzzleloaders@yahoogroups.com, "Terry" <trogers@a...> wrote:
> I have a CVA brand Colt 1861 Army revolver with a brass frame. Do
any
> of you have one of these? I'm a little worried about the frame
being
> too soft for a full charge of 30gr. FFF powder. That is what I use
in
> my 1858 Remington New Model Army. If anyone has any advice, I would
> greatly appreciate it.
>
> Take care and keep Christ in your heart,
>
> Terry  I AM A REENACTOR WHO IS ALL TOO FAMILIAR WITH BRASS FRAMED
REVOLVERS. WHILE I DO LIKE THEM, THERE ARE A FEW TRICKS TO THEM. I
GENERALLY FIND THAT AFTER A THOUSAND ROUNDS THE FRAME BENDS SILGHTLY
DOWNWARD. YOU WON'T NEED A GUNSMITH TO FIX IT. JUST GIVE THE UNLOADED
COLT A GOOD SOLID WHACK ON A SOLID SERFACE AND YOU'LL BE BACK IN
BUSINESS. THOUGH YOU CAN AVOID THE PROBLEM BY REDUCING THE POWDER
CHARGE TO 25GR. FFFG BLACK POWDER.

--- In Muzzleloaders@yahoogroups.com, "Terry" <trogers@a...> wrote:
> I have a CVA brand Colt 1861 Army revolver with a brass frame. Do
any
> of you have one of these? I'm a little worried about the frame
being
> too soft for a full charge of 30gr. FFF powder. That is what I use
in
> my 1858 Remington New Model Army. If anyone has any advice, I would
> greatly appreciate it.
>
> Take care and keep Christ in your heart,
>
> Terry

Hey all,

My name's Kev, I'm new to the list and to the sport of black powder
shooting.  I'm in the market for a flintlock rifle (Kentucky or Brown
Bess type) and was wondering if anyone new a good place on-line to
find such rifles.  I've been doing search after search but mostly
turn up useless (to me) pages.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Kev

For a Brown Bess look at Pedersoli - you should find it quickly with
a search.  A Brown Bess is a musket - not a rifle (there is a vast
difference)

There are a lot of flintlock makers and dealers - many come up with
just a search for muzzleloaders.  Tennessee Valley Muzzleloaders
(TVM) makes real nice flintlocks.  The Dixie catalog has many
flintlocks of all sorts.

--- In Muzzleloaders@yahoogroups.com, "Kev" <khutchings@s...> wrote:
> Hey all,
>
> My name's Kev, I'm new to the list and to the sport of black powder
> shooting.  I'm in the market for a flintlock rifle (Kentucky or
Brown
> Bess type) and was wondering if anyone new a good place on-line to
> find such rifles.  I've been doing search after search but mostly
> turn up useless (to me) pages.  Any help would be greatly
appreciated.
>
> Kev

I am interested in starting to shoot black powder revolvers
(replicas), and would like to know if there are any restrictions
regarding the purchase and transfer from on-line auctions or on-line
companies.  Any information would be appreciated.  I would perfer
any
responses be sent to: samnkells@....  Thank you.

Semper Fidelis,

Gunny Sam, USMC Ret.

--- In Muzzleloaders@yahoogroups.com, "Dour Celt" <dour_celt@t...>
wrote:
Thanks for the help, guys.  I was able to find an affordable Kentucky
rifle from Traditions.  Now I just have to wait for it to get
here...  Thanks again.

Kev

Gooday all, I have owned several Black Powder Muzzleloaders over the years. .45
to
.54 cal. I have just purchased my first .32 cal. A CVA .32 cal. Varmint Hunter
that
appears to be new. There were no scratches at all on the ramrod. Anyway I did
not get
a manual with it and I have some questions. Hopefully someone out there is
familiar
with this rifle. I have looked at CVA's web site and was unable to find any
information
about this rifle. I have shot it a few times with a patched round ball, using 25
grains
Pyrodex Select RS, and it seems to be quite accurate. I am nolonger able to do
any
hunting but I really enjoy going to the range and doing some "paper hunting". I
have
learned I should be using Pyrodex "P" ( FFF EQ ) so I plan to switch over to
that. I can
give the rest of the can of RS to my son for his .54 cal.
My questions are: : :
1. What is the twist rate of the barrel?
2. What year would it have been made?
3. What is recommended powder load?
4. Will this shoot the mini Buffalo Bullets well?

Anyone who can help with my questions it will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks very much, and keep your powder dry. John

Whar is the inside diameter in fractions of an inch of a 20 guage
smoothbore barrel?

How do you determine what your optimal length of pull is?

Anybody know where a body could get ahold of a blunderbuss, kit or
just the barrel?  I know Dixie and CVA used to offer blunderbuss
kits and I remember seeing ads in the back of Guns and Ammo and
American Rifleman hawking those Classic Arms kits and one of them
was a brass-barrel blunderbuss.  I'm looking for a shooter, not a
wall-hanger.  So far, my online searches have been fruitless.  Any
help or tips would be great.  Thanks.

----- Original Message -----

From: rrambrose

To: Muzzleloaders@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 9:55 AM

Subject: [Muzzleloaders] 20 Guage

Whar is the inside diameter in fractions of an inch of a 20 guage
smoothbore barrel?




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