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Hello --

I am a rank newbie to the sport and I intend to purchase a
muzzleloader kit to build in order to learn how the weapons work
from the ground up.

I am also a mystery writer and am thinking about a murder story
involving a muzzleloader as the murder weapon. But before
proceeding I need to dig up some quick facts, such as: Can lead
balls shot from muzzleloading RIFLES be matched to the
weapons that shot them by means of comparing striation
marks? What about muzzleloading SMOOTHBORE muskets?

Does anyone here know of a source of this information?

Thanks to all.









Sun Sep 4, 2005 10:54 am

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Hello -- I am a rank newbie to the sport and I intend to purchase a muzzleloader kit to build in order to learn how the weapons work from the ground up. I am...
Henry Kisor
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Sep 4, 2005
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In a message dated 9/4/2005 9:10:34 AM Eastern Standard Time, hkisor@... writes: am also a mystery writer and am thinking about a murder story involving...
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pjmarks1941
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Sep 4, 2005
2:17 pm

Well, I TOLJA I was a rank newbie. Does this illustrate the adage "keep your powder dry"? I presume rainy days are not good for muzzleloader shooting? ... ...
Henry Kisor
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Sep 4, 2005
3:15 pm

... Black powder readily soaks up water and then does not go "bang" or even "fffft." So rainy days can be a challenge. However, there are various ways to get...
kees99919
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Sep 7, 2005
10:34 pm

I have heard of people using a triangular shaped piece of buckskin over the frizzen and primer pan as a safe guard against wetting the powder. In a steady down...
Tony
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Sep 8, 2005
5:18 am

Thanks, Tony and Kees. I've sent an email to a NCIS source I know asking if he's ever heard of a patch being matched to a muzzleloading rifle. Not that NCIS...
Henry Kisor
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Sep 8, 2005
11:30 pm

I would check out different sellers and find out who makes that model for them. Some sell identical rifles for less then what others do. So if you can get the...
Tony
flint1821
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Sep 9, 2005
12:06 am

Thank you, Tony. What I now need to know is: Who are the reputable muzzle-loader manufacturers? I presume those whose wares are sold in the Dixie Gun Works...
Henry Kisor
hkisor
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Sep 9, 2005
11:34 pm

All the muzzleloader companies you mentioned have Hawken replicas. Most folks are very happy with the Lyman GPR (made by Interarms Co. of Italy). I have had...
kees99919
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Sep 10, 2005
12:37 am

I woud say they are as well as CVA and most others who have been seeling blackpowder arms for years. There are a few who build custom made rifles that are a...
Tony
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Sep 10, 2005
12:20 pm

Hi Henry- I would say that the best buy in Black Powder rifles today by far is the Great Plains rifle by Lyman. I have built several dozen of these guns and am...
greg marts
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Sep 10, 2005
4:41 pm

Another problem would be a soft, round lead bullet. A lot of the forensics on the bullets is on the base of a jacketed bullet. Even wad cutters are not round....
tcmills2000
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Oct 8, 2005
3:18 am

Thank you! So far I have not been able to find a forensics expert who says it's possible to identify a muzzle-loader from a bullet. One deputy sheriff in Upper...
Henry Kisor
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Oct 8, 2005
1:44 pm

Henry, There are more Brown Bess muskets out there than you would imagine. Lots of Brigade of the American Revolution and Continental Line re- enactors have...
odie_43215
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Oct 9, 2005
1:02 am

Maybe I should have said "odd caliber" instead of Brown Bess -- a rare caliber would narrow down the range of possibilities for an investigator. What caliber...
Henry Kisor
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Oct 9, 2005
11:46 am

Yea, if he dropped an uynfired patch (fingerprint), residue (circumstantial but not many people fire black powder), partial print on cap? Later, Trent...
tcmills2000
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Oct 10, 2005
7:55 pm

Hmmm, type of cleaning rod? type of lube for patch? Beeswax? particular local beeswax with murder happening in another location (summer cabin/hunting lodge VS...
tcmills2000
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Oct 10, 2005
8:04 pm

You have a wonderfully nefarious mind...you sure you haven't been a bad guy in somebody else's mystery novel? :-)...
Henry Kisor
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Oct 10, 2005
8:56 pm

Henry - there are THOUSANDS of reproduction Bron Bess in use by those of us who reenact the Rev War and French and Indian War periods. most are .69 - .75 ...
Mike S.
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Oct 11, 2005
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