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#124 From: "Terry" <terry.home@...>
Date: Mon Jul 23, 2007 6:35 am
Subject: Spiced Gold on Ebay
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I have put my boat up for sale on Ebay.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170132419772

Thought I would let the group know just in case anybody is interested.

Regards
Terry

#123 From: "jimmyfuller0" <jimmyfuller0@...>
Date: Sun Jul 22, 2007 3:16 am
Subject: Re: Jib needed for MICROSAIL.
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--- In MicroClass@yahoogroups.com, "jimmyfuller0" <jimmyfuller0@...>
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> Good afternoon everyone.
>
> I am in need of a standard blade jib for a Microsail as i only have
the
> genoa with a poor sheeting angle. It will be for cruising use
perhaps
> some racing dacron will do must be in good condition and be
suitable
to
> sheet to the standard cabin roof fittings with barber haulers.
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Jimmy.
>

Hello anyone out there, if there is anyone out there?

Just to create some life on the UK forum you are all abviously out
there
having too much fun!! I am writing to tell you i have managed to get
a
Narwhal blade jib off a Proto in Austria which works superbly and I
was
pleasantly surprised at how quick it was to arrive on my doorstep.

If anyone else is in need of a new jib or suit of sails the same chap
has a full suit of Doyle racing sails cut for a carbon mast (500
Euros
+postage) and a superb radial cut Narwhal headsail (200 euros
+postage)! Email me and i will forward your details to the seller for
the details, alternatively go to www.microclass.org on the forum
under
sales and contact Christian yourself. There is a possibility they
might
be sold allready but its worth a go.

Jimmy

#122 From: "Philippe De Troy" <philippe@...>
Date: Thu Jun 7, 2007 5:15 am
Subject: Micro GEM on eBay
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#121 From: "jimmyfuller0" <jimmyfuller0@...>
Date: Sat Apr 28, 2007 2:55 pm
Subject: Jib needed for MICROSAIL.
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Good afternoon everyone.

I am in need of a standard blade jib for a Microsail as i only have the
genoa with a poor sheeting angle. It will be for cruising use perhaps
some racing dacron will do must be in good condition and be suitable to
sheet to the standard cabin roof fittings with barber haulers.

Thanks in advance

Jimmy.

#120 From: "johnbg8jmb" <jbutton@...>
Date: Sat Apr 28, 2007 9:28 pm
Subject: jib wanted
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> Good afternoon,
has anyone a secondhand dacron jib for sale to sheet to the cabin roof?
> I have the genoa which is a bit to big for sailing on the inland
waterways > it also restricts my pointing ability. I dont particularly
want to buy new  as it will mainly be used for cruising.
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Jimmy.
> Norfolk Broads.

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#119 From: "johnbg8jmb" <jbutton@...>
Date: Sat Apr 28, 2007 9:24 pm
Subject: jib wanted
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Good afternoon,

Has anyone a secondhand dacron jib for sale to sheet to the cabin roof?
I have the genoa which is a bit to big for sailing on the inland
waterways - it also restricts my pointing ability. I don't particularly
want to buy new as it will mainly be used for cruising.

Thanks in advance

Jimmy.
Norfolk Broads.
djjimmyjames@...

#118 From: "ger_118" <francis_marx@...>
Date: Mon Jan 15, 2007 8:54 pm
Subject: World Championship 2007
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Dear British Microsailors,

The German Microclass is very proud to organize the Micro World
championship 2007 in Warnemuende (Baltic Sea). You can find more
information about the event at:

www.microcup.de

We would be very pleased, if there would be some British boats, who
are interested to enter the competition. The sailing area is very
competitive. The race will be a big event with more than 15 boat
classes and three world championships.

Warnemuende can easily be reached by car: Take the ferry from Harwich
to Hoek van Holland and then the auto route which leads directly to
Warnemuende.

Don´t hesitate to ask, if you have further questions. We will try to help.

We hope to see you in Warnemuende in July
Francis Marx
German Microclass

Contact :
Francis Marx
Tel: 0049/5363/989666
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#117 From: "jimmyfuller0" <jimmyfuller0@...>
Date: Fri Dec 22, 2006 1:47 pm
Subject: Microsail Keel.
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Hello everyone, hope you all have a lovely Christmas and a happy new
year (sailing of course)!!! Just a quick question about the Jeanneau
Microsail keel arrangement. My keel has is streight with a wooden
capping piece to stop it from falling through the hull. I noiticed the
other day that there is a keel shaped recess in the moulding below the
flat piece and was wondering if i needed to do anything to the top of
my keel to seat it correctly?? Your help would be very gratefully
recieved as i dont particularly want to lose my keel.

Kind regards
Jimmy.

#116 From: philippe@...
Date: Sun Dec 10, 2006 10:53 am
Subject: Re: Jeanneau Microsail Tuning
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Jimmy,

I'm afraid this document does not exist, the reference is the French Microclass
association, and even when they are asked something in French, they seldom
reply.

The best info can be gained from the French Micro Class National Measurer
Jacques Pottier, see contact info on http://imcca.microclass.org, Jacques is
the owner of a bright new Microsail his second one, and the first Microsail
ranked in the last Micro Class World Championship.

Philippe

From jimmyfuller0 <jimmyf...>:

> Hello all, i was wondering if anyone had a definitive list of
> measurements for the above (mast rake, prebend, jib fairlead positions
> etc) and also any advice on toestrap mounting positions. Information on
> the class seems to be limited so your help would be very much
> appreciated!!
>
> Jimmy (new micro owner)
>
>

#115 From: "jimmyfuller0" <jimmyfuller0@...>
Date: Thu Dec 7, 2006 11:04 am
Subject: Jeanneau Microsail Tuning
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Hello all, i was wondering if anyone had a definitive list of
measurements for the above (mast rake, prebend, jib fairlead positions
etc) and also any advice on toestrap mounting positions. Information on
the class seems to be limited so your help would be very much
appreciated!!

Jimmy (new micro owner)

#114 From: "neil6414" <neil.cormack@...>
Date: Wed Nov 29, 2006 4:14 pm
Subject: Re: Hot Boat Shiraz for sale
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Price now reduced to £4300.00


--- In MicroClass@yahoogroups.com, "neil6414" <neil.cormack@...> wrote:
>
> It is a very nice boat to sail, built in 1999 a Polish design.
>
> It is very light and responsive and I raced it of a PY of 1050 and a
> CYCA of 21.5.
>
> I am just an average sailor and the boat is hard to beat especially
> in light conditions.
>
> 2 suits of sails, 1 originals and a set I bought for the start of
> this season which are excellent condition. Road trailer in good
> condition.
>
> I am only selling because I am looking at purchasing a slightly
> bigger boat.
>
> Boat based near Inverness
>
> Plent of pics available
>
> £ 4800.00
>
> Contact neil.cormack@...
>


#113 From: "neil6414" <neil.cormack@...>
Date: Wed Nov 29, 2006 4:17 pm
Subject: Shiraz - Micro 18 Hot Boat Design
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Price Now reduced to £ 4300.00

See previous posting for boat details


#112 From: "JOHN BUTTON" <jbutton@...>
Date: Tue Nov 28, 2006 3:27 am
Subject: Contacts
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I will continue to act as S coast contact for microclass
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#111 From: "jimmyfuller0" <jimmyfuller0@...>
Date: Tue Nov 28, 2006 6:29 pm
Subject: Re: Digest Number 34
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Hello all Microsailors in the Norfolk area. I have just purchased one
from Whitby and i am collecting her in the next week or two, thats
all i know at the moment she is approx 1985 in age and has been raced
before with some success. She needs some minor work and should be
about for spring (Broads initially). Anyone in the area is welcome to
drop me an email to acknowledge member number 11!!!


-- In MicroClass@yahoogroups.com, Tim Goodwin <tim@...> wrote:
> Me likewise for MAnningtree and beyond - East of England
Essex/Suffolk/Norfolk until someone pops up that is more local.
Incidentally a friend has just bought a Micro from Norwich to add to
the local fleet. I guess we must have around 9 or 10 now.
> Regards,
>
> Tim Goodwin
>
> On Monday, December 12, 2005 16:33, NEIL CORMACK <neil.cormack@...>
wrote:
> >
> >Hi Phil
> >  
> > I would be happy to be a point of contact for Scotland if
required.
> >  
> > Neil Cormack
> > Hot boat - Shiraz
> >
> >MicroClass@yahoogroups.com wrote:
> >
> >There is 1 message in this issue.
> >
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> >1. Re: Points of contact
> >From: LOUVEL ROBIN
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> >we have 21 sailing clubs in plymouth if you need a SW area
> >contact i would be happy to assist, and may be I could find
> >more micros in my area. then find out how my boat performs
> >agaist class competition
> >
> >Philippe De Troy wrote: All the information collected in this
> >group confirms that there is still a significant activity of
> >the Micro Class in UK.
> >
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> >some Micros are sailing" to a more representative "Countries
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#110 From: "helmut.czasny" <helmut.czasny@...>
Date: Thu Aug 17, 2006 3:12 pm
Subject: Hello from Southampton
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I am a Micro sailor from Austria, who moved over to the UK and I am
currently working for ISAF in Southampton. I am the owner of an
Proto "L'Arte", finished 4th last year at the Worlds in Latvia and
would be happy if I would have some contact to british Micro sailors.

My boat is still in Austria, but I think about to bring it to the Uk
as well. Do you have meetings or take part in some races?

hope to hearing from you

Helmut

#109 From: "neil6414" <neil.cormack@...>
Date: Wed Aug 2, 2006 9:04 pm
Subject: Hot Boat Shiraz for sale
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It is a very nice boat to sail, built in 1999 a Polish design.

It is very light and responsive and I raced it of a PY of 1050 and a
CYCA of 21.5.

I am just an average sailor and the boat is hard to beat especially
in light conditions.

2 suits of sails, 1 originals and a set I bought for the start of
this season which are excellent condition. Road trailer in good
condition.

I am only selling because I am looking at purchasing a slightly
bigger boat.

Boat based near Inverness

Plent of pics available

£ 4800.00

Contact neil.cormack@...

#108 From: oliver cheetham <olivercheetham@...>
Date: Thu Jul 13, 2006 6:48 pm
Subject: Re: Rig Set up??
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hi
i´m a new owner too -of a micro 18- but i  do find a
lot of pre-bend is needed to go up-wind with
reasonable performance.
i look forward to response from longer standing owners

ps if any micro owner finds themslves in mallorca,
they are welcome to the boat for a day or more
regards

--- wlls_hnry <tags.pete_tye@...> wrote:

> Does anyone have  rig set up dims.  For an early gem
> we have
> just bought. It has a proctor mast.
>
>  Mast Rake....
>  Forestay length...
>  Pre bend....
>  Tensions...
>  Etc...
>
> Any help would be very welcome..
>
>
>
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#107 From: "wlls_hnry" <tags.pete_tye@...>
Date: Thu Jul 6, 2006 8:02 pm
Subject: Rig Set up??
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Does anyone have  rig set up dims.  For an early gem we have
just bought. It has a proctor mast.

  Mast Rake....
  Forestay length...
  Pre bend....
  Tensions...
  Etc...

Any help would be very welcome..

#106 From: oliver cheetham <olivercheetham@...>
Date: Fri May 19, 2006 3:00 pm
Subject: Re: Speculation/Woodchip Designs ?
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you could contact barry metcalf at cardiff bay yacht
club- you´ll find it on the net- he´s the club boat
yard manager, i believe he used to own your boat
give him my regards
and regards to you!

--- wlls_hnry <tags.pete_tye@...> wrote:

> What is the difference between the Speculation and
> Woodchip
> Designs. Does any one  have any photos that they
> could post  on
> the Website..
>
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>
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#105 From: "wlls_hnry" <tags.pete_tye@...>
Date: Thu May 18, 2006 11:05 am
Subject: Speculation/Woodchip Designs ?
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What is the difference between the Speculation and Woodchip
Designs. Does any one  have any photos that they could post  on
the Website..

#104 From: "Terry" <terry.home@...>
Date: Sun Mar 19, 2006 10:25 am
Subject: For Sale - Spiced Gold
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Hello Sailors

I have decided to put Spiced Gold up for sale as I think it is time to
upgrade to something slightly bigger

For more details please see http://greenwichyachtclub.co.uk/forsale

Regards
Terry

#103 From: oliver cheetham <olivercheetham@...>
Date: Tue Mar 14, 2006 4:51 pm
Subject: Re: working jib
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i´ve aquired atwo no 1´s- a like new which  is stowed
away for the serious stuff and an older model which is
pretty good also
i´m toying with the idea of having a couple of
reefing eyes put in somewhere about the first seam
which i rekon will give me a reduction of about 1.8 sq
metres
previously i´ve been racing and cruising J24´s which
are a REAL handful shorthanded so i´m enjoying the fun
of the micro which is a really sweet sail boat
regards oliver

--- Philippe De Troy <philippe@...> wrote:

> On a quarter tonner, I cruised extensively, and very
> often single-handed.
>
> Sails changes in heavy weather were really a nasty
> job.
> The high aspect jib had two reefs, each reducing the
> luff by 15% (hence, the total area by 30%).
>
> There was a second set of sheets and a line for tack
> reduction.  The reduction lasted no more than 15
> seconds and the sail was very flat.
>
> Philippe
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: JOHN BUTTON
>   To: MicroClass@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 12:14 AM
>   Subject: Re: [MicroClass] working jib
>
>
>   Oliver,
>   You're right, It's different sailing at sea on
> your own (sailing with family is the same but there
> is more to tread on) to balls out round a lake with
> a full (and trained and fit and competant) racing
> crew (apologies to Philippe, we aren't all dedicated
> to competitive circuit racing). I rate a smaller jib
> as essential for safety.
>
>   I suspect it can get pretty choppy off Mallorca,
> like off Poole.  It's no good being overpressed, it
> only slows you down.  On my own, I  use the no. 2
> with the sheets fed back to the spinnaker blocks and
> the ends tied together so they are to hand - makes
> tacking easier.  A good control on the backstay to
> flatten the main is good to kill the overload. On
> Gazelle, it is routed to both sides of the cockpit,
> as is the kicker.
>
>   I think there are some micros in the RYA
> portsmouth yardstick - I'll have a look.  Or you
> might get away with saying it's like a First 18 for
> club handicap racing.
>
>   I reduce sail as :
>   1 - genoa to jib
>   2 - flatten main - backstay
>   3 - let off the kicker - in gusts
>   3 - Ist reef and shut the hatch
>   4 - 2nd reef and put the washboards in, keep the
> weight aft off the wind
>   5 - stay in the bar
>   Although 3 up with full sail in 6-7 was
> controllable, it was character building, and I don't
> think it would have been good without the 40 stones
> of crew (sorry, 236kg) on the rail.
>
>   Another trick, not widely used, is to put the
> first reef in at the leech only, great for seeing
> what your'e doing and keeping your head clear of the
> boom. Especially good when towing a fishing lure!
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     From: oliver cheetham
>     To: MicroClass@yahoogroups.com
>     Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 3:00 PM
>     Subject: Re: [MicroClass] working jib
>
>
>     thanks for that
>     it is exactly when i´m short handed or alone
> that the
>     prob really gets bad!!!   the boat is really not
> at
>     all happy in a blow!
>     i will probably speak to sanders
>
>     --- JOHN BUTTON <jbutton@...> wrote:
>
>     > Hi
>     > I recommed a no.2. There are other things
> besides
>     > racing... a working jib is great for a "sail
> around
>     > the bay" especially single handed or if it's
> windy
>     > and you're short of crew weight. Or racing
> when it's
>     > windy and rough.  My Gem micro has genoa + jib
> (or
>     > no. 2) - by Sanders sails in lymington. they
> may be
>     > able to advise.  The jib is cut as a blade,
> with a
>     > hollow luff so it's flat without needing
> excessive
>     > luff tension.
>     > John
>     > Gazelle
>     > Poole
>     >
>     > ----- Original Message -----
>     >   From: oliver cheetham
>     >   To: MicroClass@yahoogroups.com
>     >   Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 9:31 PM
>     >   Subject: [MicroClass] working jib
>     >
>     >
>     >   hi guys
>     >   having now got my micro up and running i
> feel i am
>     >   missing at least one head sail
>     >   does the micro normally have a no 2 headsail
> or is
>     > all
>     >   the reefing done on the main?
>     >   if it should have a no 2 does anyone have
>     > measurements
>     >   for it?
>     >   also can anyone advise py or irc figures for
> the
>     > boat?
>     >   regards oliver
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#102 From: "Philippe De Troy" <philippe@...>
Date: Tue Mar 14, 2006 8:40 am
Subject: Re: working jib
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On a quarter tonner, I cruised extensively, and very often single-handed. 
 
Sails changes in heavy weather were really a nasty job. 
The high aspect jib had two reefs, each reducing the luff by 15% (hence, the total area by 30%). 
 
There was a second set of sheets and a line for tack reduction.  The reduction lasted no more than 15 seconds and the sail was very flat. 
 
Philippe
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 12:14 AM
Subject: Re: [MicroClass] working jib

Oliver,
You're right, It's different sailing at sea on your own (sailing with family is the same but there is more to tread on) to balls out round a lake with a full (and trained and fit and competant) racing crew (apologies to Philippe, we aren't all dedicated to competitive circuit racing). I rate a smaller jib as essential for safety. 
 
I suspect it can get pretty choppy off Mallorca, like off Poole.  It's no good being overpressed, it only slows you down.  On my own, I  use the no. 2 with the sheets fed back to the spinnaker blocks and the ends tied together so they are to hand - makes tacking easier.  A good control on the backstay to flatten the main is good to kill the overload. On Gazelle, it is routed to both sides of the cockpit, as is the kicker.
 
I think there are some micros in the RYA portsmouth yardstick - I'll have a look.  Or you might get away with saying it's like a First 18 for club handicap racing.
 
I reduce sail as :
1 - genoa to jib  
2 - flatten main - backstay
3 - let off the kicker - in gusts
3 - Ist reef and shut the hatch
4 - 2nd reef and put the washboards in, keep the weight aft off the wind
5 - stay in the bar
Although 3 up with full sail in 6-7 was controllable, it was character building, and I don't think it would have been good without the 40 stones of crew (sorry, 236kg) on the rail.
 
Another trick, not widely used, is to put the first reef in at the leech only, great for seeing what your'e doing and keeping your head clear of the boom. Especially good when towing a fishing lure!
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Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 3:00 PM
Subject: Re: [MicroClass] working jib

thanks for that
it is exactly when i´m short handed or alone that the
prob really gets bad!!!   the boat is really not at
all happy in a blow!
i will probably speak to sanders

--- JOHN BUTTON <jbutton@...> wrote:

> Hi
> I recommed a no.2. There are other things besides
> racing... a working jib is great for a "sail around
> the bay" especially single handed or if it's windy
> and you're short of crew weight. Or racing when it's
> windy and rough.  My Gem micro has genoa + jib (or
> no. 2) - by Sanders sails in lymington. they may be
> able to advise.  The jib is cut as a blade, with a
> hollow luff so it's flat without needing excessive
> luff tension.
> John
> Gazelle
> Poole
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>   From: oliver cheetham
>   To: MicroClass@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 9:31 PM
>   Subject: [MicroClass] working jib
>
>
>   hi guys
>   having now got my micro up and running i feel i am
>   missing at least one head sail
>   does the micro normally have a no 2 headsail or is
> all
>   the reefing done on the main?
>   if it should have a no 2 does anyone have
> measurements
>   for it?
>   also can anyone advise py or irc figures for the
> boat?
>   regards oliver  
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#101 From: "JOHN BUTTON" <jbutton@...>
Date: Mon Mar 13, 2006 11:14 pm
Subject: Re: working jib
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Oliver,
You're right, It's different sailing at sea on your own (sailing with family is the same but there is more to tread on) to balls out round a lake with a full (and trained and fit and competant) racing crew (apologies to Philippe, we aren't all dedicated to competitive circuit racing). I rate a smaller jib as essential for safety. 
 
I suspect it can get pretty choppy off Mallorca, like off Poole.  It's no good being overpressed, it only slows you down.  On my own, I  use the no. 2 with the sheets fed back to the spinnaker blocks and the ends tied together so they are to hand - makes tacking easier.  A good control on the backstay to flatten the main is good to kill the overload. On Gazelle, it is routed to both sides of the cockpit, as is the kicker.
 
I think there are some micros in the RYA portsmouth yardstick - I'll have a look.  Or you might get away with saying it's like a First 18 for club handicap racing.
 
I reduce sail as :
1 - genoa to jib  
2 - flatten main - backstay
3 - let off the kicker - in gusts
3 - Ist reef and shut the hatch
4 - 2nd reef and put the washboards in, keep the weight aft off the wind
5 - stay in the bar
Although 3 up with full sail in 6-7 was controllable, it was character building, and I don't think it would have been good without the 40 stones of crew (sorry, 236kg) on the rail.
 
Another trick, not widely used, is to put the first reef in at the leech only, great for seeing what your'e doing and keeping your head clear of the boom. Especially good when towing a fishing lure!
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 3:00 PM
Subject: Re: [MicroClass] working jib

thanks for that
it is exactly when i´m short handed or alone that the
prob really gets bad!!!   the boat is really not at
all happy in a blow!
i will probably speak to sanders

--- JOHN BUTTON <jbutton@...> wrote:

> Hi
> I recommed a no.2. There are other things besides
> racing... a working jib is great for a "sail around
> the bay" especially single handed or if it's windy
> and you're short of crew weight. Or racing when it's
> windy and rough.  My Gem micro has genoa + jib (or
> no. 2) - by Sanders sails in lymington. they may be
> able to advise.  The jib is cut as a blade, with a
> hollow luff so it's flat without needing excessive
> luff tension.
> John
> Gazelle
> Poole
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>   From: oliver cheetham
>   To: MicroClass@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 9:31 PM
>   Subject: [MicroClass] working jib
>
>
>   hi guys
>   having now got my micro up and running i feel i am
>   missing at least one head sail
>   does the micro normally have a no 2 headsail or is
> all
>   the reefing done on the main?
>   if it should have a no 2 does anyone have
> measurements
>   for it?
>   also can anyone advise py or irc figures for the
> boat?
>   regards oliver  
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#100 From: "Philippe De Troy" <philippe@...>
Date: Mon Mar 13, 2006 10:42 pm
Subject: Re: working jib
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Oliver, 
 
IRC claims many certificates in Spain, but Spain is also traditionally ORC-minded...
There is a Micro Class activity in Southern Spain (Huelva, Isla Canela)
 
Phil
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 4:08 PM
Subject: Re: [MicroClass] working jib


thanks for that
thanks for that
for me it will be a definite must as i´m usually light
handed or solo
do you have any ideas on handicap nos- i´m in mallorca
so its unlikely i´ll find any others- i have seen a
few look a likes though.  racing in uk   i´ve raced
chs-now irc  and py  but i´m not surer yet what system
they use out here yet but a comparison with a similar
popular boat would give the race od´s something to
work on
advice appreciated
oliver

--- Philippe De Troy <philippe@...> wrote:

> The Micros Class Rules used to authorise a second
> jib, no more than 70% of the largest one. 
> We authorised first a 4,55 sq.m jib even ifthe
> largest headsail was less than 6.5 sq.m.
>
> Then some competitors were thinking it was better
> for performance in stronger winds to have two 6.5
> sq.m, one light, one heavy and very flat. 
>
> Anyway the Micro Cup 1998 was won in the last race
> with a working jib and one reef, so I think it's not
> a bad idea... 
>
> Phil De Troy
> Chief Measurer Micro Class
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: oliver cheetham
>   To: MicroClass@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 10:31 PM
>   Subject: [MicroClass] working jib
>
>
>   hi guys
>   having now got my micro up and running i feel i am
>   missing at least one head sail
>   does the micro normally have a no 2 headsail or is
> all
>   the reefing done on the main?
>   if it should have a no 2 does anyone have
> measurements
>   for it?
>   also can anyone advise py or irc figures for the
> boat?
>   regards oliver  
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#99 From: oliver cheetham <olivercheetham@...>
Date: Mon Mar 13, 2006 3:08 pm
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thanks for that
thanks for that
for me it will be a definite must as i´m usually light
handed or solo
do you have any ideas on handicap nos- i´m in mallorca
so its unlikely i´ll find any others- i have seen a
few look a likes though.  racing in uk   i´ve raced
chs-now irc  and py  but i´m not surer yet what system
they use out here yet but a comparison with a similar
popular boat would give the race od´s something to
work on
advice appreciated
oliver

--- Philippe De Troy <philippe@...> wrote:

> The Micros Class Rules used to authorise a second
> jib, no more than 70% of the largest one.
> We authorised first a 4,55 sq.m jib even ifthe
> largest headsail was less than 6.5 sq.m.
>
> Then some competitors were thinking it was better
> for performance in stronger winds to have two 6.5
> sq.m, one light, one heavy and very flat.
>
> Anyway the Micro Cup 1998 was won in the last race
> with a working jib and one reef, so I think it's not
> a bad idea...
>
> Phil De Troy
> Chief Measurer Micro Class
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: oliver cheetham
>   To: MicroClass@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 10:31 PM
>   Subject: [MicroClass] working jib
>
>
>   hi guys
>   having now got my micro up and running i feel i am
>   missing at least one head sail
>   does the micro normally have a no 2 headsail or is
> all
>   the reefing done on the main?
>   if it should have a no 2 does anyone have
> measurements
>   for it?
>   also can anyone advise py or irc figures for the
> boat?
>   regards oliver
>
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#98 From: oliver cheetham <olivercheetham@...>
Date: Mon Mar 13, 2006 3:00 pm
Subject: Re: working jib
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thanks for that
it is exactly when i´m short handed or alone that the
prob really gets bad!!!   the boat is really not at
all happy in a blow!
i will probably speak to sanders

--- JOHN BUTTON <jbutton@...> wrote:

> Hi
> I recommed a no.2. There are other things besides
> racing... a working jib is great for a "sail around
> the bay" especially single handed or if it's windy
> and you're short of crew weight. Or racing when it's
> windy and rough.  My Gem micro has genoa + jib (or
> no. 2) - by Sanders sails in lymington. they may be
> able to advise.  The jib is cut as a blade, with a
> hollow luff so it's flat without needing excessive
> luff tension.
> John
> Gazelle
> Poole
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>   From: oliver cheetham
>   To: MicroClass@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 9:31 PM
>   Subject: [MicroClass] working jib
>
>
>   hi guys
>   having now got my micro up and running i feel i am
>   missing at least one head sail
>   does the micro normally have a no 2 headsail or is
> all
>   the reefing done on the main?
>   if it should have a no 2 does anyone have
> measurements
>   for it?
>   also can anyone advise py or irc figures for the
> boat?
>   regards oliver
>
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#97 From: "JOHN BUTTON" <jbutton@...>
Date: Thu Mar 9, 2006 8:30 pm
Subject: Re: working jib
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Hi
I recommed a no.2. There are other things besides racing... a working jib is great for a "sail around the bay" especially single handed or if it's windy and you're short of crew weight. Or racing when it's windy and rough.  My Gem micro has genoa + jib (or no. 2) - by Sanders sails in lymington. they may be able to advise.  The jib is cut as a blade, with a hollow luff so it's flat without needing excessive luff tension.
John
Gazelle
Poole
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 9:31 PM
Subject: [MicroClass] working jib

hi guys
having now got my micro up and running i feel i am
missing at least one head sail
does the micro normally have a no 2 headsail or is all
the reefing done on the main?
if it should have a no 2 does anyone have measurements
for it?
also can anyone advise py or irc figures for the boat?
regards oliver  

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#96 From: "Philippe De Troy" <philippe@...>
Date: Wed Mar 8, 2006 10:00 pm
Subject: Re: working jib
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The Micros Class Rules used to authorise a second jib, no more than 70% of the largest one. 
We authorised first a 4,55 sq.m jib even ifthe largest headsail was less than 6.5 sq.m.
 
Then some competitors were thinking it was better for performance in stronger winds to have two 6.5 sq.m, one light, one heavy and very flat. 
 
Anyway the Micro Cup 1998 was won in the last race with a working jib and one reef, so I think it's not a bad idea... 
 
Phil De Troy
Chief Measurer Micro Class
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 10:31 PM
Subject: [MicroClass] working jib

hi guys
having now got my micro up and running i feel i am
missing at least one head sail
does the micro normally have a no 2 headsail or is all
the reefing done on the main?
if it should have a no 2 does anyone have measurements
for it?
also can anyone advise py or irc figures for the boat?
regards oliver  

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#95 From: oliver cheetham <olivercheetham@...>
Date: Mon Mar 6, 2006 9:31 pm
Subject: working jib
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hi guys
having now got my micro up and running i feel i am
missing at least one head sail
does the micro normally have a no 2 headsail or is all
the reefing done on the main?
if it should have a no 2 does anyone have measurements
for it?
also can anyone advise py or irc figures for the boat?
regards oliver

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