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Re: [MicroClass] slow boat

There should be something hard, like an aluminium plate or U-profile, on the rear side of the case, to avoid the trailing edge of the keel exploding the case in case of a hard grounding.  Better break the keel!
 
For the same reason, the leading edge shoud be WIDE on the top, to spread the load to the sides.
 
Phil De Troy
----- Original Message -----
From: Terry
Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2005 7:10 PM
Subject: RE: [MicroClass] slow boat

Interesting
 
I do not have this Wing Ballast Weight. I do have an extended Ballast Weight that screws on to the bottom of my keel, but I never bother putting it on. The guy I bought the boat from also never bothered adding that as we both feel it is worth more keeping the boat as light as possible when racing.
 
Also, the "hard wood profile insert" you mention, I have something similar, however I fit mine in front of the keel instead of the back. This puts the keel back about an inch and personally I think this balances the boat better (although I have never tried it with the insert at the back)
 
Thank you very much for the illustration.
 
Kind regards
Terry
-----Original Message-----
From: LOUVEL ROBIN [mailto:robinlouvel@...]
Sent: 03 December 2005 17:13
To: MicroClass@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [MicroClass] slow boat

I will take photos later when it stops raining but the enclosed sketches should explain

Terry <terry.home@...> wrote:
Not sure I understand what you mean by 40mm nose down and assembly kick
back. Is there a possibility of perhaps sending some photos so that we know
what to look for?

Regards
Terry

-----Original Message-----
From: LOUVEL ROBIN [mailto:robinlouvel@...]
Sent: 02 December 2005 21:11
To: MicroClass@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [MicroClass] slow boat


my old micro of unknown parentage was sailing very slowly this season. with
a standing wave at the transom about 100mm above the deck level.

Time to investigate suspect keel.

Into cradle, drop keel.
lo and behold as the keel hits the top of the box the whole assembly kicks
back and we have a 40mm nose down on the wing. I have been trying to sail a
potential submarine all year.

solution fit new wear strip in back of box and sort out plate at top of
keel.

may be we will win some silver next year.
When did you last insprct your drop keel in the down position?
Regards.
Robin



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my old micro of unknown parentage was sailing very slowly this season. with a standing wave at the transom about 100mm above the deck level. Time to...
LOUVEL ROBIN
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Dec 2, 2005
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Not sure I understand what you mean by 40mm nose down and assembly kick back. Is there a possibility of perhaps sending some photos so that we know what to...
Terry
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Dec 2, 2005
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I will take photos later when it stops raining but the enclosed sketches should explain Terry <terry.home@...> wrote: Not sure I understand what you...
LOUVEL ROBIN
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Dec 3, 2005
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Interesting I do not have this Wing Ballast Weight. I do have an extended Ballast Weight that screws on to the bottom of my keel, but I never bother putting it...
Terry
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Dec 3, 2005
6:12 pm

There should be something hard, like an aluminium plate or U-profile, on the rear side of the case, to avoid the trailing edge of the keel exploding the case...
Philippe De Troy
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Dec 3, 2005
6:41 pm

thanks for the tip. but my keel is not breakable. made from 1.5mm steel plate aerofoil section 75 mm wide at max cord. i will spead the load at the top and...
LOUVEL ROBIN
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Dec 4, 2005
10:19 pm

Robin, It's not the keel breaking on grounding, it,s the back of the keel box where you need reinforcement. On the GEM, it's supposed to be a piece of...
g8jmb
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Dec 5, 2005
12:21 am

the xls file in in micro soft xl spread sheet. the new boat i have been looking at has a grp keel. If we do not move up the fleet next season i will have to do...
LOUVEL ROBIN
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Dec 5, 2005
9:22 am

Robin I Know it's xl, but all that appears on the message is a box saying 'attachment (not stored)keel.xls'--- john ... something....
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Dec 6, 2005
12:18 am

If it sany help, having been watching the dialogue with interest, the file opened fine for me, but I am using an Apple Mac! Regards, Timbo PS I have a Gem...
Tim Goodwin
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Dec 6, 2005
8:58 am

Hi Tim 1 - ref the xl file, I couldn't find it to open, just a box 'attachment (not stored) keel.xls' Maybe I'm doing somthing wrong 2 - ref your keel, it...
g8jmb
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Dec 7, 2005
1:33 am

Hi, My Gem is called 'Well Done' (because no-one will ever need to say that whilst I am racing!!), number 17, located at Manningtree in Essex. owner Tim...
Tim Goodwin
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Dec 7, 2005
12:16 pm

PS I forgot to say take a look at the racing results, and to clarify, also started the season with a third share in Wavelength a Micro 18. Tim...
Tim Goodwin
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Dec 7, 2005
12:22 pm

Tim, I'm taking a register of all Micros in the World. But with no more than 15 UK entries, including a Speculation exported to the Netherlands. To update...
Philippe De Troy
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Dec 7, 2005
12:39 pm

Ok, a quick reply - Manningtree boats are ALL, Micro 18's (the type, ie Stephen Jones design) which is Muscle, Wavelength, indecision, or Gems (Rob Humphreys)...
Tim Goodwin
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Dec 7, 2005
1:26 pm

Listed below, yes, but I can't establish a connection between the sail numbers I've recorded and boat names... Phil ... From: Tim Goodwin To:...
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