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Re: [MicroClass] Re: Yardstick number for micros

Interesting!!!!!

Anyone from the Lake District with numbers?

Peter H

David <dave.waters@...> wrote:
We have a fleet of eight Micros at Stour SC, a mix of Gems and
Micro18s, which are mainly sailed as an all-in class since we don't
consider there is much difference in overall performance between the
two designs taken over time.

Gems are generally considered here to be a bit faster in light winds
(less wetted area?), but Micro18s come into their own in more
breeze. I still comes down to how well the boats are sailed as to
which boat does better. We give a PY of 1060 to both designs when
raced in a handicap race, e.g. the club regatta.

The quoted PYs of 1050 and 1069 seem extreme in my experience.

My Micro18 has been given a different PY when raced elsewhere, but
I'm not sure what off-hand.

Dave

--- In MicroClass@yahoogroups.com, "Terry" <terry.home@...> wrote:
>
> The Micro Gem runs a Handicap of 1069
> The Micro 18 is slightly faster with a Handicap of 1050
> The Swift 18 has a Handicap of 1084
>
> Not checked any of the other Micro Cuppers as these are the only
ones I
> have had to use for handicaps at our club
>
> PS. A good reference for handicap numbers is available from
>
> http://www.byronsoftware.org.uk/bycn/byboat.htm
>
> Regards
> Terry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: MicroClass@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:MicroClass@yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf Of Peter Halliwell
> Sent: 05 September 2007 15:03
> To: MicroClass@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [MicroClass] Re: Yardstick number for micros
>
>
> I'm thinking of getting a Micro...what PY Number are the Brit boats
> sailing to?
>
> Peter H
>
> Steve Culpitt <sculpitt@...> wrote:
>
> Dave
>
> I sheet to the coach roof, what do you have around the 4 year mark?
>
> Steve
>
>
> On 3/9/07 23:25, "David" <dave.waters@...> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Steve,
>
> All are sound but quite well used. I replace my sails before they
> get too stretched but I like to get a few seasons use from them.
> Ages range from 10+ years to about 4. Sheeting angle of course
> depends on position of tracks and blocks. On the Micro18 the
> sheeting angle is typically to make a lot of tension down the
leech.
>
> Dave
>
> --- In MicroClass@yahoogroups.com <mailto:MicroClass%
40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:MicroClass%40yahoogroups.com> , Steve Culpitt <sculpitt@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > What condition are they in and how old?
> >
> > Kind regards
> >
> > Steve
> >
> > Oh and what sheeting angle?
> >
> >
> >
> > On 29/8/07 15:24, "David" <dave.waters@> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hullo Jimmy,
> > >
> > > I have a number of redundant Micro 18 sails, including jibs.
If
> you
> > > still need a jib (or any other sail) please let me know. I
live
> in
> > > Colchester, Essex and I sail my boat on the Stour at
Manningtree.
> > >
> > > I'm not familiar with the Microdsail, but if you can give me
the
> > > measurements I could check them against the Micro 18 sail(s).
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Dave
> > >
> > > --- In MicroClass@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:MicroClass%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:MicroClass%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:MicroClass%
> 40yahoogroups.com> ,
> > > "jimmyfuller0" <jimmyfuller0@>
> > > wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > --- In MicroClass@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:MicroClass%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:MicroClass%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:MicroClass%
> 40yahoogroups.com> ,
> > >> "jimmyfuller0" <jimmyfuller0@>
> > >> > wrote:
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > Good afternoon everyone.
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > I am in need of a standard blade jib for a Microsail as
i
> only
> > > have
> > >> > the
> > >>> > > genoa with a poor sheeting angle. It will be for
cruising
> use
> > >> > perhaps
> > >>> > > some racing dacron will do must be in good condition and
be
> > >> > suitable
> > >> > to
> > >>> > > sheet to the standard cabin roof fittings with barber
> haulers.
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > Thanks in advance
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > Jimmy.
> > >>> > >
> > >> >
> > >> > Hello anyone out there, if there is anyone out there?
> > >> >
> > >> > Just to create some life on the UK forum you are all
abviously
> out
> > >> > there
> > >> > having too much fun!! I am writing to tell you i have
managed
> to
> > > get
> > >> > a
> > >> > Narwhal blade jib off a Proto in Austria which works
superbly
> and
> > > I
> > >> > was
> > >> > pleasantly surprised at how quick it was to arrive on my
> doorstep.
> > >> >
> > >> > If anyone else is in need of a new jib or suit of sails the
> same
> > > chap
> > >> > has a full suit of Doyle racing sails cut for a carbon mast
> (500
> > >> > Euros
> > >> > +postage) and a superb radial cut Narwhal headsail (200
euros
> > >> > +postage)! Email me and i will forward your details to the
> seller
> > > for
> > >> > the details, alternatively go to www.microclass.org on the
> forum
> > >> > under
> > >> > sales and contact Christian yourself. There is a
possibility
> they
> > >> > might
> > >> > be sold allready but its worth a go.
> > >> >
> > >> > Jimmy
> > >> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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I'm thinking of getting a Micro...what PY Number are the Brit boats sailing to? Peter H Steve Culpitt <sculpitt@...> wrote:...
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Hi Peter Pass, I am cruising man, needed something fun for the family after sailing International 14¹s for many years. Steve ... Re: [MicroClass] Re:...
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The Micro Gem runs a Handicap of 1069 The Micro 18 is slightly faster with a Handicap of 1050 The Swift 18 has a Handicap of 1084 Not checked any of the other...
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If you don't find them in PY, try to compare with French HN http://www.ffvoile.fr/hn the coefficients are multiplyers (TMF) so TMF * PY should be a constant. ...
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Sep 6, 2007
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We have a fleet of eight Micros at Stour SC, a mix of Gems and Micro18s, which are mainly sailed as an all-in class since we don't consider there is much...
David
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DAvid, Found "Micro Championships" October 13th-14th... Any Notice of Race available? Don't you invite your "close" neighbours from Whitby, Scarborough, the...
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Hullo Philippe, A good bit of detective work! There's no formal Notice of Race at present, but the organiser will be emailing SSC members with details nearer...
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You are all welcome to the 29th Micr'Eau d'Heure, to be held on the lake of Plate Taille, Belgium, on October 20th and 21st, 2007 (registration on site from...
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To all UK experts Pictures are published on the International Micro frorum for identification. See http://www.microclass.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=3398#3398 ...
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Should have changed the subject... Sorry Phil ... To all UK experts Pictures are published on the International Micro frorum for identification. See...
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Interesting!!!!! Anyone from the Lake District with numbers? Peter H David <dave.waters@...> wrote: We have a fleet of...
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Thanks everyone...thats good enough for me. Peter H Terry <terry.home@...> wrote: The Micro Gem runs a Handicap of 1069 The Micro 18 is slightly...
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Back on this old topic... A German competitor entered the 30th Micr'Eau d'Heure and declares his boat as a "Gem with a Cruiser's rig". He sent his national...
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