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I must agree.  The appropriation of Jeff Conine was puzzling, but looking at the
schedule
showing competitive games ahead with no chance to rest starters, the Conine
"get" is now
sensible.  Shawn Green has had time to rest, once it was apparent he needed it,
as his
production waned.  Key starters, such as Paul Loduca, is in rehab single A ball.
Endy Chavez
is just starting back into the lineup and is slated to start as early as Monday.
Ruben Gotay
has been sent down to AAA to make room for Chavez return and Conine's PH. 
Youngsters
like Lastings Milledge will require a day off, soon, and it may be during the
four game series
with Philly, or the three games with Atlanta.  All this coupled with Delgados
struggles at the
plate, Beltrans slow start, Moises Alou's precarious health, and Luis Catillo's
nagging knee,
its no wonder Omar Minaya went out in search of a contributing bat.
Look at the contribution from Lastings Milledge, his over enthusiasm for the
game, which
leads to fixable defensive blunders, and you have an incredible trade prospect
for starting
pitching.  Omar will set the bar high in his pursuit for talent in any trade
which involves
Milledge.  Watching San Diego play, reading Baseball America, taking note of the
pitching
talent prospects there, well, who knows?  The Padres are in dire need of a long
term
Shortstop.  I believe this is the position Lastings Milledge can excel, when,
the only reason
he is in the OF, is that SS is filled.  Speaking of Jose Reyes, he'll need a day
off as well.  Please
don't say that he's young and will love to play through the playoffs without a
break.  All
"working men", as "George F. Wills" refers to them need rest.  Its a wonder the
Mets is 6
games ahead of the Phillies and the Braves, and hold the best record in the NL. 
Go Mets!

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I'm thrilled to death with Castillo, but the Conine move kind of baffles me,
they traded two prospects off of their class a team for a forty one year old
pinch hitter. Why did'nt they just figured out a way to have kept Julio Franco
then. The A team in St Lucie from what I've read is pretty prospect laden, this
move does not make too much sense right now. I'm going to root against Conine, I
wish him well, but this is what I don't like about him besides his age is that
he is only a mid two hundreds hitter and all of his power has come against
lefties. If Delgado stays healthy it just limits him to pinch hitter duty.

metaltiger224 <metaltiger224@...> wrote:          Luis Castillo continues
to amaze me. He consistently shows "fire in the belly" whenever he
approaches the plate. Against the Padres, he drove in the run (Lastings
Milledge, after
having been moved up by a sac fly) to tie the game in the bottom of the 9th.
Eventually, the
mets won 8-6. I love his production and am glad Omar Minaya got him.
Jeff Conine is new member of the team and I haven't yet seen him in action as a
Met.
Judging by his stats he should be adding power to the batting lineup. If so,
Delgado can rest
a bit longer. Still, I wonder whether Delgado's production would ever be what
the
organization expected. Go Conine.






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Luis Castillo continues to amaze me.  He consistently shows "fire in the belly"
whenever he
approaches the plate.  Against the Padres, he drove in the run (Lastings
Milledge, after
having been moved up by a sac fly) to tie the game in the bottom of the 9th. 
Eventually, the
mets won 8-6.  I love his production and am glad Omar Minaya got  him.
Jeff Conine is new member of the team and I haven't yet seen him in action as a
Met.
Judging by his stats he should be adding power to the batting lineup.  If so,
Delgado can rest
a bit longer.  Still, I wonder whether Delgado's production would ever be what
the
organization expected.  Go Conine.

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Phil Rizzuto, the Hall of Fame shortstop during the Yankees' dynasty
years and beloved by a generation of fans who delighted in hearing
him exclaim "Holy cow!" as a broadcaster, died Tuesday. He was 89.

His death was confirmed by the Yankees. Rizzuto had been in declining
health for several years and was living at a nursing home in West
Orange, N.J.

Rizzuto, known as "The Scooter," was the oldest living Hall of Famer.
He played for the Yankees throughout the 1940s and '50s, won seven
World Series titles and played in five All-Star games.

"Phil was a gem, one of the greatest people I ever knew. A dear
friend and great teammate," said Hall of Famer Yogi Berra, who
frequently visited Rizzuto in his later years.

"He was a heck of a player, too. When I first came up to the Yankees,
he was like a big - actually, small - brother to me. He's meant an
awful lot to baseball and the Yankees and has left us with a lot of
wonderful memories," he said.


At 5-foot-6, Rizzuto was a flashy player who could always be counted
on for a perfect bunt, a nice slide or a diving catch in a lineup
better known for its cornerstone sluggers. He played 13 seasons
alongside the likes of Joe DiMaggio and Mickey Mantle in a career
interrupted by Navy service in World War II.

Rizzuto was equipped with a productive bat, sure hands and quick feet
that earned him his nickname. A leadoff man, he was a superb bunter,
used to good advantage by the Yankee teams that won 11 pennants and
nine World Series between 1941 and 1956.

"He was a Yankee all the way," said Indians great Bob Feller, who at
88 became the oldest living Hall of Famer.

"Phil could hit, he could run, he was good on the basepaths and he
was a great shortstop. He knew the fundamentals of the game and he
got 100 percent out of his ability. He played it hard and he played
it fair," he said.

Born in Brooklyn, Rizzuto tried out with the Dodgers and New York
Giants when he was 16, but because of his size was dismissed by
Dodgers manager Casey Stengel, who told him to "Go get a shoeshine
box." He went on to become one of Stengel's most dependable players.

A Rizzuto bunt, a steal and a DiMaggio hit made up the scoring
trademark of the Yankees' golden era, and he played errorless ball in
21 consecutive World Series games. DiMaggio said the shortstop "held
the team together."

Rizzuto came to the Yankees in 1941 and batted .307 as a rookie.
After the war, he returned in 1946 and became the American League MVP
in 1950. He batted .324 that season with a slugging percentage
of .439 and 200 hits, second most in the league. He also went 58
games without an error, making 288 straight plays.

He led all AL shortstops in double plays three times and had a career
batting average of .273 with at least a .930 fielding percentage. He
played in five All-Star games.

After the Yankees released him in 1956, Rizzuto began a second career
as a broadcaster, one for which he became at least equally well
known.

In his decades on the radio and TV, Rizzuto's favorite phrase
was "Holy cow!" It became so common, the team presented him with a
cow wearing a halo when they held a day in his honor in 1985. The cow
knocked Rizzuto over and, of course, he shouted, "Holy cow!"

"That thing really hurt," he said. "That big thing stepped right on
my shoe and pushed me backwards, like a karate move."

Yankee fans also loved his unusual commentary, often punctuated with
the phrase, "What a huckleberry!"

In an age of broadcasters who spout statistics and repeat the
obvious, Rizzuto loved to talk about things like his fear of
lightning, the style of an umpire's shoes or even the prospect of
outfielder Dave Winfield as a candidate for president.

He liked to acknowledge birthdays and anniversaries, read notes from
fans, praised the baked delicacies at his favorite restaurant and
send messages to old cronies. And if he missed a play, he would
scribble "ww" in his scorecard box score. That, he said,
meant "wasn't watching."

His popularity was such that at a recent auction a Rizzuto cap
embedded with a wad of chewing gum sold for more than $8,000. In the
New York area, Rizzuto's antics became a staple for TV ads.

Despite his qualifications, Rizzuto was passed over for the Hall of
Fame 15 times by the writers and 11 times by the old-timers
committee. Finally, a persuasive speech by Ted Williams pushed
Rizzuto into Cooperstown in 1994.

Williams, a member of the committee, argued that Rizzuto was the man
who made the difference between the Yankees and his Red Sox. He was
fond of saying, "If we'd had Rizzuto in Boston, we'd have won all
those pennants instead of New York."

As in his playing days, Rizzuto was overshadowed by the headliners,
teammates like DiMaggio, Mantle, Whitey Ford and Berra. All of them
reached the Hall of Fame before he did.

"I never thought I deserved to be in the Hall of Fame," Rizzuto would
say. "The Hall of Fame is for the big guys, pitchers with 100 mph
fastballs and hitters who sock homers and drive in a lot of runs.
That's the way it always has been and the way it should be."

Old-timers still talk about his suicide squeeze in the ninth inning
during the 1951 pennant race to score DiMaggio, beating Cleveland 2-1
and putting the Yankees in first place for the rest of the season.

Rizzuto remembers Aug. 25, 1956, as a day he thought was the "end of
the world," the day Stengel released him to make room for clutch-
hitting Enos Slaughter in the pennant drive.

"It was Old-Timers Day, and I was out taking pictures, as I did every
year," Rizzuto remembered. "The bat boy came over and told me that
Casey Stengel and George Weiss wanted to see me in Stengel's office.
It was the last day to add a player to the roster and have him
eligible for the World Series."

Rizzuto is survived by his wife, the former Cora Anne Esselborn, whom
he married in 1943; daughters Cindy Rizzuto, Patricia Rizzuto and
Penny Rizzuto Yetto; son Phil Rizzuto Jr.; and two granddaughters.

The money certainly plays a huge role in determining
the correct move for a general manager.  Timing is
everything.  Both Beltran and Delgado won't draw much
attention from teams throughout the league, at this
time.

When Rick Downs coached hitting, he could not figure
out what it was which needed change in one's swing to
improve production.  With Delgado it's confidence and
expectation with respect to lineup location.  Delgado
has found himself consistently in position to be the
hero and bring in the winning run.  With each time he
fails, he pushes on the next opportunity.  Didn't
Delgado hurt his hand, take a pitch off his hand?  I'm
wondering whether he is compensating for that injury
to his hand.  It's been awhile since the injury, but,
when players return sooner than their time, they try
to compensate, and in so doing, develop habits that
take time to break to be successfull.

Beltran was slowly reaching where he wanted to be,
then he was hurt, and now is playing with the injury,
an injury which still bothers him.  This will take
time.  He'll be back, though.

With baseball, it's all about the patience.  The old,
"Slow, slow, slow.  Quick, quick, quick" stance, which
some ball players take in executing the proper time to
swing, with recognition to a pitch, I believe, still
has meaning today.  Having faith in the your tools:
hitting, fielding, pitching, supported by reputation
and experience, contributes to belief that past form
will work for you.

--- eric thompson <humpy_12078@...> wrote:

> Yeah him and Beltran make seventeen million a year I
> think, only teams like the Yanks or Boston could
> afford them. Beltran did hit a homer in his first
> game back last night so maybe it's looking up.
>
> Aleksander Banchs Ramos <grupos@...> wrote:
>        i dont think any team would take that
> contract...
>
> by the way i think delgado has a partial no
> trade....or maybe he
> waived that when he was traded to the mets...
>
> On Aug 10, 2007, at 8:49 AM, jimmy brash wrote:
>
> > i didnt know that. thanx for the info. do u or
> anyone else in the
> > group think they can come up with a scenerio in
> which he would wave
> > the no trade clause?
> >
> > Aleksander Banchs Ramos <grupos@...> wrote:
> beltran has a no
> > trade clause...
> >
> > On Aug 10, 2007, at 6:15 AM, jimmy brash wrote:
> >
> > > dont get me wrong...i like delgado and beltran,
> but i dont see them
> > > producing the numbers for what they are being
> paid. if either one
> > > could be traded away for a carlos zambrano or
> even bronson arroyo
> > > for that matter, i would bite if i was omar.
> also, i think that
> > > torri hunter or ichiro sukuzi would be good fits
> for the mets. alou
> > > is nearing retirement, i dont think delgado nor
> beltran will be
> > > around next year...i also see sosa gone, glavine
> gone and maybe el
> > > duque...possibly pelfey gone as part of a trade.
> and if pedro is
> > > rushed back too soon, though he is needed, he
> might be done. the
> > > mets should've been a bit more agressive before
> the trade
> > > deadline....but i still have them facing the red
> sox in the series
> > > this year. go figure
> > >
> > > eric thompson <humpy_12078@...> wrote: I
> agree with you, he's
> > > thirty five by the way, but he could still hit
> thirty homers and
> > > get hundred rbi's this year, still a month and a
> half of baseball.
> > > I almost hate to say Delgado and Beltran could
> be the only failures
> > > to Willie's tenure as manager. He has failed to
> light a fire under
> > > either one of them to get them to play up to
> their full potential,
> > > both of them have stayed away from taking any
> kind of leadership
> > > role on the team. Delgado should be a feared
> number four hitter and
> > > with Wright, Alou and Green hitting behind him
> he should be seeing
> > > good pitches to hit. As for Beltran, even though
> this is a post
> > > about Delgado, he should be a thirty-thirty man
> every year and
> > > bringing in a hundred runs a year as well, I
> know he has been hurt
> > > from time to time but he is a better ball player
> than he has shown
> > > in new york. I almost wonder would they respond
> better to a h!
> > > ispanic manager rather than.
> > > But Delgado and Beltran have a month and a half
> to come around and
> > > pick up their stats, better the team. With Reyes
> and Castillo in
> > > the one-two spots, Wright, Alou and Green
> batting behind them and a
> > > solid bat in LoDuca they still have a chance.
> > >
> > > Tylen Kauhi <metaltiger224@...> wrote:
> > > It would be just our luck, after trading him
> that he
> > > starts producing.....for another team.
> Considering
> > > his age (what is he? 29?)and the huge chance he
> will
> > > come around; that Moises Alou, though hitting
> well, is
> > > up there in age, I think they should hold onto
> him.
> > > The little things in hitting is always affected
> by the
> > > shaving of confidence. Maybe Delgado should get
> > > angry, then, instead of pounding the ball, just
> hit to
> > > get on. Everytime I watch him, he looks as
> though he
> > > is in a pressure cooker. After all, the Mets
> play
> > > excellent small ball, and the bottom of the
> lineup has
> > > been producing runs enough to assist in a win.
> > >
> > > --- jimmy brash <illtownfiend@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > > loduca has a solid glove without question, but
> > > > castro's power is too inticing to be ignored
> for
> > > > long. they need to train him to play first or
> > > > something...speaking of which, maybe delgado
> needs
> > > > to be traded this off season if the mets dont
> make
> > > > it to the show.
> > > >
> > > > metaltiger224 <metaltiger224@...> wrote:
> > > > While I got excited, then addicted to Ramon
> > > > Castro's bat, Paul Loduca, on a pickoff of
> Harris,
> > > > again, have me reiterating my belief in the
> > > > decisions of Willie Randolph. I salivate at
> Ramon
> > > > Castro's power, but I gotta give the putout
> talent
> > > > of Paul Loduca credit. Time and again, with
> > > > Catchers who have a quick release, a team
> could shut
> > > > down the ability of opposing teams
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Yeah him and Beltran make seventeen million a year I think, only teams like the
Yanks or Boston could afford them. Beltran did hit a homer in his first game
back last night so maybe it's looking up.

Aleksander Banchs Ramos <grupos@...> wrote:          i dont think any
team would take that contract...

by the way i think delgado has a partial no trade....or maybe he
waived that when he was traded to the mets...

On Aug 10, 2007, at 8:49 AM, jimmy brash wrote:

> i didnt know that. thanx for the info. do u or anyone else in the
> group think they can come up with a scenerio in which he would wave
> the no trade clause?
>
> Aleksander Banchs Ramos <grupos@...> wrote: beltran has a no
> trade clause...
>
> On Aug 10, 2007, at 6:15 AM, jimmy brash wrote:
>
> > dont get me wrong...i like delgado and beltran, but i dont see them
> > producing the numbers for what they are being paid. if either one
> > could be traded away for a carlos zambrano or even bronson arroyo
> > for that matter, i would bite if i was omar. also, i think that
> > torri hunter or ichiro sukuzi would be good fits for the mets. alou
> > is nearing retirement, i dont think delgado nor beltran will be
> > around next year...i also see sosa gone, glavine gone and maybe el
> > duque...possibly pelfey gone as part of a trade. and if pedro is
> > rushed back too soon, though he is needed, he might be done. the
> > mets should've been a bit more agressive before the trade
> > deadline....but i still have them facing the red sox in the series
> > this year. go figure
> >
> > eric thompson <humpy_12078@...> wrote: I agree with you, he's
> > thirty five by the way, but he could still hit thirty homers and
> > get hundred rbi's this year, still a month and a half of baseball.
> > I almost hate to say Delgado and Beltran could be the only failures
> > to Willie's tenure as manager. He has failed to light a fire under
> > either one of them to get them to play up to their full potential,
> > both of them have stayed away from taking any kind of leadership
> > role on the team. Delgado should be a feared number four hitter and
> > with Wright, Alou and Green hitting behind him he should be seeing
> > good pitches to hit. As for Beltran, even though this is a post
> > about Delgado, he should be a thirty-thirty man every year and
> > bringing in a hundred runs a year as well, I know he has been hurt
> > from time to time but he is a better ball player than he has shown
> > in new york. I almost wonder would they respond better to a h!
> > ispanic manager rather than.
> > But Delgado and Beltran have a month and a half to come around and
> > pick up their stats, better the team. With Reyes and Castillo in
> > the one-two spots, Wright, Alou and Green batting behind them and a
> > solid bat in LoDuca they still have a chance.
> >
> > Tylen Kauhi <metaltiger224@...> wrote:
> > It would be just our luck, after trading him that he
> > starts producing.....for another team. Considering
> > his age (what is he? 29?)and the huge chance he will
> > come around; that Moises Alou, though hitting well, is
> > up there in age, I think they should hold onto him.
> > The little things in hitting is always affected by the
> > shaving of confidence. Maybe Delgado should get
> > angry, then, instead of pounding the ball, just hit to
> > get on. Everytime I watch him, he looks as though he
> > is in a pressure cooker. After all, the Mets play
> > excellent small ball, and the bottom of the lineup has
> > been producing runs enough to assist in a win.
> >
> > --- jimmy brash <illtownfiend@...> wrote:
> >
> > > loduca has a solid glove without question, but
> > > castro's power is too inticing to be ignored for
> > > long. they need to train him to play first or
> > > something...speaking of which, maybe delgado needs
> > > to be traded this off season if the mets dont make
> > > it to the show.
> > >
> > > metaltiger224 <metaltiger224@...> wrote:
> > > While I got excited, then addicted to Ramon
> > > Castro's bat, Paul Loduca, on a pickoff of Harris,
> > > again, have me reiterating my belief in the
> > > decisions of Willie Randolph. I salivate at Ramon
> > > Castro's power, but I gotta give the putout talent
> > > of Paul Loduca credit. Time and again, with
> > > Catchers who have a quick release, a team could shut
> > > down the ability of opposing teams
> > > scoring late in the game. Bravo Paul Loduca.
> > >
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i dont think any team would take that contract...

by the way i think delgado has a partial no trade....or maybe he
waived that when he was traded to the mets...


On Aug 10, 2007, at 8:49 AM, jimmy brash wrote:

> i didnt know that. thanx for the info. do u or anyone else in the
> group think they can come up with a scenerio in which he would wave
> the no trade clause?
>
> Aleksander Banchs Ramos <grupos@...> wrote: beltran has a no
> trade clause...
>
> On Aug 10, 2007, at 6:15 AM, jimmy brash wrote:
>
> > dont get me wrong...i like delgado and beltran, but i dont see them
> > producing the numbers for what they are being paid. if either one
> > could be traded away for a carlos zambrano or even bronson arroyo
> > for that matter, i would bite if i was omar. also, i think that
> > torri hunter or ichiro sukuzi would be good fits for the mets. alou
> > is nearing retirement, i dont think delgado nor beltran will be
> > around next year...i also see sosa gone, glavine gone and maybe el
> > duque...possibly pelfey gone as part of a trade. and if pedro is
> > rushed back too soon, though he is needed, he might be done. the
> > mets should've been a bit more agressive before the trade
> > deadline....but i still have them facing the red sox in the series
> > this year. go figure
> >
> > eric thompson <humpy_12078@...> wrote: I agree with you, he's
> > thirty five by the way, but he could still hit thirty homers and
> > get hundred rbi's this year, still a month and a half of baseball.
> > I almost hate to say Delgado and Beltran could be the only failures
> > to Willie's tenure as manager. He has failed to light a fire under
> > either one of them to get them to play up to their full potential,
> > both of them have stayed away from taking any kind of leadership
> > role on the team. Delgado should be a feared number four hitter and
> > with Wright, Alou and Green hitting behind him he should be seeing
> > good pitches to hit. As for Beltran, even though this is a post
> > about Delgado, he should be a thirty-thirty man every year and
> > bringing in a hundred runs a year as well, I know he has been hurt
> > from time to time but he is a better ball player than he has shown
> > in new york. I almost wonder would they respond better to a h!
> > ispanic manager rather than.
> > But Delgado and Beltran have a month and a half to come around and
> > pick up their stats, better the team. With Reyes and Castillo in
> > the one-two spots, Wright, Alou and Green batting behind them and a
> > solid bat in LoDuca they still have a chance.
> >
> > Tylen Kauhi <metaltiger224@...> wrote:
> > It would be just our luck, after trading him that he
> > starts producing.....for another team. Considering
> > his age (what is he? 29?)and the huge chance he will
> > come around; that Moises Alou, though hitting well, is
> > up there in age, I think they should hold onto him.
> > The little things in hitting is always affected by the
> > shaving of confidence. Maybe Delgado should get
> > angry, then, instead of pounding the ball, just hit to
> > get on. Everytime I watch him, he looks as though he
> > is in a pressure cooker. After all, the Mets play
> > excellent small ball, and the bottom of the lineup has
> > been producing runs enough to assist in a win.
> >
> > --- jimmy brash <illtownfiend@...> wrote:
> >
> > > loduca has a solid glove without question, but
> > > castro's power is too inticing to be ignored for
> > > long. they need to train him to play first or
> > > something...speaking of which, maybe delgado needs
> > > to be traded this off season if the mets dont make
> > > it to the show.
> > >
> > > metaltiger224 <metaltiger224@...> wrote:
> > > While I got excited, then addicted to Ramon
> > > Castro's bat, Paul Loduca, on a pickoff of Harris,
> > > again, have me reiterating my belief in the
> > > decisions of Willie Randolph. I salivate at Ramon
> > > Castro's power, but I gotta give the putout talent
> > > of Paul Loduca credit. Time and again, with
> > > Catchers who have a quick release, a team could shut
> > > down the ability of opposing teams
> > > scoring late in the game. Bravo Paul Loduca.
> > >
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Contender, team with immeadite oppurtunity to win.

jimmy brash <illtownfiend@...> wrote:          i didnt know that. thanx
for the info. do u or anyone else in the group think they can come up with a
scenerio in which he would wave the no trade clause?

Aleksander Banchs Ramos <grupos@...> wrote: beltran has a no trade
clause...

On Aug 10, 2007, at 6:15 AM, jimmy brash wrote:

> dont get me wrong...i like delgado and beltran, but i dont see them
> producing the numbers for what they are being paid. if either one
> could be traded away for a carlos zambrano or even bronson arroyo
> for that matter, i would bite if i was omar. also, i think that
> torri hunter or ichiro sukuzi would be good fits for the mets. alou
> is nearing retirement, i dont think delgado nor beltran will be
> around next year...i also see sosa gone, glavine gone and maybe el
> duque...possibly pelfey gone as part of a trade. and if pedro is
> rushed back too soon, though he is needed, he might be done. the
> mets should've been a bit more agressive before the trade
> deadline....but i still have them facing the red sox in the series
> this year. go figure
>
> eric thompson <humpy_12078@...> wrote: I agree with you, he's
> thirty five by the way, but he could still hit thirty homers and
> get hundred rbi's this year, still a month and a half of baseball.
> I almost hate to say Delgado and Beltran could be the only failures
> to Willie's tenure as manager. He has failed to light a fire under
> either one of them to get them to play up to their full potential,
> both of them have stayed away from taking any kind of leadership
> role on the team. Delgado should be a feared number four hitter and
> with Wright, Alou and Green hitting behind him he should be seeing
> good pitches to hit. As for Beltran, even though this is a post
> about Delgado, he should be a thirty-thirty man every year and
> bringing in a hundred runs a year as well, I know he has been hurt
> from time to time but he is a better ball player than he has shown
> in new york. I almost wonder would they respond better to a h!
> ispanic manager rather than.
> But Delgado and Beltran have a month and a half to come around and
> pick up their stats, better the team. With Reyes and Castillo in
> the one-two spots, Wright, Alou and Green batting behind them and a
> solid bat in LoDuca they still have a chance.
>
> Tylen Kauhi <metaltiger224@...> wrote:
> It would be just our luck, after trading him that he
> starts producing.....for another team. Considering
> his age (what is he? 29?)and the huge chance he will
> come around; that Moises Alou, though hitting well, is
> up there in age, I think they should hold onto him.
> The little things in hitting is always affected by the
> shaving of confidence. Maybe Delgado should get
> angry, then, instead of pounding the ball, just hit to
> get on. Everytime I watch him, he looks as though he
> is in a pressure cooker. After all, the Mets play
> excellent small ball, and the bottom of the lineup has
> been producing runs enough to assist in a win.
>
> --- jimmy brash <illtownfiend@...> wrote:
>
> > loduca has a solid glove without question, but
> > castro's power is too inticing to be ignored for
> > long. they need to train him to play first or
> > something...speaking of which, maybe delgado needs
> > to be traded this off season if the mets dont make
> > it to the show.
> >
> > metaltiger224 <metaltiger224@...> wrote:
> > While I got excited, then addicted to Ramon
> > Castro's bat, Paul Loduca, on a pickoff of Harris,
> > again, have me reiterating my belief in the
> > decisions of Willie Randolph. I salivate at Ramon
> > Castro's power, but I gotta give the putout talent
> > of Paul Loduca credit. Time and again, with
> > Catchers who have a quick release, a team could shut
> > down the ability of opposing teams
> > scoring late in the game. Bravo Paul Loduca.
> >
> >
> >
> >
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metaltiger224 wrote:
>
> Losing the third game in a series with Atlanta, I thought they played
> poorly. With the lack of
> rest between last night's game and the third game being at midday, the
> team still managed
> to produce runs, but looked fatigued. Delgado nearly did it with his
> final at bat. Kudos to
> Atlanta's Harris, who, I believe, played LF. Impressive vertical for a
> small guy. He's quick.
>
> Traveling to
> Miami may make Marlon even more tired in preparation for the Marlins.
>
>
>
>
Marlon sprained his wrist.   Also I read the team put him on the
bereavement list as his father died.


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i didnt know that. thanx for the info. do u or anyone else in the group think
they can come up with a scenerio in which he would wave the no trade clause?

Aleksander Banchs Ramos <grupos@...> wrote:          beltran has a no
trade clause...

On Aug 10, 2007, at 6:15 AM, jimmy brash wrote:

> dont get me wrong...i like delgado and beltran, but i dont see them
> producing the numbers for what they are being paid. if either one
> could be traded away for a carlos zambrano or even bronson arroyo
> for that matter, i would bite if i was omar. also, i think that
> torri hunter or ichiro sukuzi would be good fits for the mets. alou
> is nearing retirement, i dont think delgado nor beltran will be
> around next year...i also see sosa gone, glavine gone and maybe el
> duque...possibly pelfey gone as part of a trade. and if pedro is
> rushed back too soon, though he is needed, he might be done. the
> mets should've been a bit more agressive before the trade
> deadline....but i still have them facing the red sox in the series
> this year. go figure
>
> eric thompson <humpy_12078@...> wrote: I agree with you, he's
> thirty five by the way, but he could still hit thirty homers and
> get hundred rbi's this year, still a month and a half of baseball.
> I almost hate to say Delgado and Beltran could be the only failures
> to Willie's tenure as manager. He has failed to light a fire under
> either one of them to get them to play up to their full potential,
> both of them have stayed away from taking any kind of leadership
> role on the team. Delgado should be a feared number four hitter and
> with Wright, Alou and Green hitting behind him he should be seeing
> good pitches to hit. As for Beltran, even though this is a post
> about Delgado, he should be a thirty-thirty man every year and
> bringing in a hundred runs a year as well, I know he has been hurt
> from time to time but he is a better ball player than he has shown
> in new york. I almost wonder would they respond better to a h!
> ispanic manager rather than.
> But Delgado and Beltran have a month and a half to come around and
> pick up their stats, better the team. With Reyes and Castillo in
> the one-two spots, Wright, Alou and Green batting behind them and a
> solid bat in LoDuca they still have a chance.
>
> Tylen Kauhi <metaltiger224@...> wrote:
> It would be just our luck, after trading him that he
> starts producing.....for another team. Considering
> his age (what is he? 29?)and the huge chance he will
> come around; that Moises Alou, though hitting well, is
> up there in age, I think they should hold onto him.
> The little things in hitting is always affected by the
> shaving of confidence. Maybe Delgado should get
> angry, then, instead of pounding the ball, just hit to
> get on. Everytime I watch him, he looks as though he
> is in a pressure cooker. After all, the Mets play
> excellent small ball, and the bottom of the lineup has
> been producing runs enough to assist in a win.
>
> --- jimmy brash <illtownfiend@...> wrote:
>
> > loduca has a solid glove without question, but
> > castro's power is too inticing to be ignored for
> > long. they need to train him to play first or
> > something...speaking of which, maybe delgado needs
> > to be traded this off season if the mets dont make
> > it to the show.
> >
> > metaltiger224 <metaltiger224@...> wrote:
> > While I got excited, then addicted to Ramon
> > Castro's bat, Paul Loduca, on a pickoff of Harris,
> > again, have me reiterating my belief in the
> > decisions of Willie Randolph. I salivate at Ramon
> > Castro's power, but I gotta give the putout talent
> > of Paul Loduca credit. Time and again, with
> > Catchers who have a quick release, a team could shut
> > down the ability of opposing teams
> > scoring late in the game. Bravo Paul Loduca.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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beltran has a no trade clause...


On Aug 10, 2007, at 6:15 AM, jimmy brash wrote:

> dont get me wrong...i like delgado and beltran, but i dont see them
> producing the numbers for what they are being paid. if either one
> could be traded away for a carlos zambrano or even bronson arroyo
> for that matter, i would bite if i was omar. also, i think that
> torri hunter or ichiro sukuzi would be good fits for the mets. alou
> is nearing retirement, i dont think delgado nor beltran will be
> around next year...i also see sosa gone, glavine gone and maybe el
> duque...possibly pelfey gone as part of a trade. and if pedro is
> rushed back too soon, though he is needed, he might be done. the
> mets should've been a bit more agressive before the trade
> deadline....but i still have them facing the red sox in the series
> this year. go figure
>
> eric thompson <humpy_12078@...> wrote: I agree with you, he's
> thirty five by the way, but he could still hit thirty homers and
> get hundred rbi's this year, still a month and a half of baseball.
> I almost hate to say Delgado and Beltran could be the only failures
> to Willie's tenure as manager. He has failed to light a fire under
> either one of them to get them to play up to their full potential,
> both of them have stayed away from taking any kind of leadership
> role on the team. Delgado should be a feared number four hitter and
> with Wright, Alou and Green hitting behind him he should be seeing
> good pitches to hit. As for Beltran, even though this is a post
> about Delgado, he should be a thirty-thirty man every year and
> bringing in a hundred runs a year as well, I know he has been hurt
> from time to time but he is a better ball player than he has shown
> in new york. I almost wonder would they respond better to a h!
> ispanic manager rather than.
> But Delgado and Beltran have a month and a half to come around and
> pick up their stats, better the team. With Reyes and Castillo in
> the one-two spots, Wright, Alou and Green batting behind them and a
> solid bat in LoDuca they still have a chance.
>
> Tylen Kauhi <metaltiger224@...> wrote:
> It would be just our luck, after trading him that he
> starts producing.....for another team. Considering
> his age (what is he? 29?)and the huge chance he will
> come around; that Moises Alou, though hitting well, is
> up there in age, I think they should hold onto him.
> The little things in hitting is always affected by the
> shaving of confidence. Maybe Delgado should get
> angry, then, instead of pounding the ball, just hit to
> get on. Everytime I watch him, he looks as though he
> is in a pressure cooker. After all, the Mets play
> excellent small ball, and the bottom of the lineup has
> been producing runs enough to assist in a win.
>
> --- jimmy brash <illtownfiend@...> wrote:
>
> > loduca has a solid glove without question, but
> > castro's power is too inticing to be ignored for
> > long. they need to train him to play first or
> > something...speaking of which, maybe delgado needs
> > to be traded this off season if the mets dont make
> > it to the show.
> >
> > metaltiger224 <metaltiger224@...> wrote:
> > While I got excited, then addicted to Ramon
> > Castro's bat, Paul Loduca, on a pickoff of Harris,
> > again, have me reiterating my belief in the
> > decisions of Willie Randolph. I salivate at Ramon
> > Castro's power, but I gotta give the putout talent
> > of Paul Loduca credit. Time and again, with
> > Catchers who have a quick release, a team could shut
> > down the ability of opposing teams
> > scoring late in the game. Bravo Paul Loduca.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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dont get me wrong...i like delgado and beltran, but i dont see them producing
the numbers for what they are being paid. if either one could be traded away for
a carlos zambrano or even bronson arroyo for that matter, i would bite if i was
omar. also, i think that torri hunter or ichiro sukuzi would be good fits for
the mets. alou is nearing retirement, i dont think delgado nor beltran will be
around next year...i also see sosa gone, glavine gone and maybe el
duque...possibly pelfey gone as part of a trade. and if pedro is rushed back too
soon, though he is needed, he might be done. the mets should've been a bit more
agressive before the trade deadline....but i still have them facing the red sox
in the series this year. go figure

eric thompson <humpy_12078@...> wrote:          I agree with you, he's
thirty five by the way, but he could still hit thirty homers and get hundred
rbi's this year, still a month and a half of baseball. I almost hate to say
Delgado and Beltran could be the only failures to Willie's tenure as manager. He
has failed to light a fire under either one of them to get them to play up to
their full potential, both of them have stayed away from taking any kind of
leadership role on the team. Delgado should be a feared number four hitter and
with Wright, Alou and Green hitting behind him he should be seeing good pitches
to hit. As for Beltran, even though this is a post about Delgado, he should be a
thirty-thirty man every year and bringing in a hundred runs a year as well, I
know he has been hurt from time to time but he is a better ball player than he
has shown in new york. I almost wonder would they respond better to a hispanic
manager rather than.
But Delgado and Beltran have a month and a half to come around and pick up their
stats, better the team. With Reyes and Castillo in the one-two spots, Wright,
Alou and Green batting behind them and a solid bat in LoDuca they still have a
chance.

Tylen Kauhi <metaltiger224@...> wrote:
It would be just our luck, after trading him that he
starts producing.....for another team. Considering
his age (what is he? 29?)and the huge chance he will
come around; that Moises Alou, though hitting well, is
up there in age, I think they should hold onto him.
The little things in hitting is always affected by the
shaving of confidence. Maybe Delgado should get
angry, then, instead of pounding the ball, just hit to
get on. Everytime I watch him, he looks as though he
is in a pressure cooker. After all, the Mets play
excellent small ball, and the bottom of the lineup has
been producing runs enough to assist in a win.

--- jimmy brash <illtownfiend@...> wrote:

> loduca has a solid glove without question, but
> castro's power is too inticing to be ignored for
> long. they need to train him to play first or
> something...speaking of which, maybe delgado needs
> to be traded this off season if the mets dont make
> it to the show.
>
> metaltiger224 <metaltiger224@...> wrote:
> While I got excited, then addicted to Ramon
> Castro's bat, Paul Loduca, on a pickoff of Harris,
> again, have me reiterating my belief in the
> decisions of Willie Randolph. I salivate at Ramon
> Castro's power, but I gotta give the putout talent
> of Paul Loduca credit. Time and again, with
> Catchers who have a quick release, a team could shut
> down the ability of opposing teams
> scoring late in the game. Bravo Paul Loduca.
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Losing the third game in a series with Atlanta, I thought they played poorly. 
With the lack of
rest between last night's game and the third game being at midday, the team
still managed
to produce runs, but looked fatigued.  Delgado nearly did it with his final at
bat.  Kudos to
Atlanta's Harris, who, I believe, played LF.  Impressive vertical for a small
guy.  He's quick.

Did Marlon Anderson look tired out at CF?  He seemed to be struggling
defensively.  Lastings
Milledge wasn't to come into the game, unless as a pinch hitter.  Unfortunately,
Milledge was
called upon because of Marlon's struggles.  I thought randolph kept him out of
the game to
get him some rest for the Florida series, and give Marlon some playing time. 
Traveling to
Miami may make Marlon even more tired in preparation for the Marlins.

Ramon Castro, also showed fatigue.  His throw to second base was slow and short.
With just
a one run difference in this loss, to have played the defense sharper, perhaps
the result
would have been different.

I sure hope they show a more wary form of defense with the Florida Marlins.  The
race is just
too close for comfort.

I agree with you, he's thirty five by the way, but he could still hit thirty
homers and get hundred rbi's this year, still a month and a half of baseball. I
almost hate to say Delgado and Beltran could be the only failures to Willie's
tenure as manager. He has failed to light a fire under either one of them to get
them to play up to their full potential, both of them have stayed away from
taking any kind of leadership role on the team. Delgado should be a feared
number four hitter and with Wright, Alou and Green hitting behind him he should
be seeing good pitches to hit. As for Beltran, even though this is a post about
Delgado, he should be a thirty-thirty man every year and bringing in a hundred
runs a year as well, I know he has been hurt from time to time but he is a
better ball player than he has shown in new york. I almost wonder would they
respond better to a hispanic manager rather than.
   But Delgado and Beltran have a month and a half to come around and pick up
their stats, better the team. With Reyes and Castillo in the one-two spots,
Wright, Alou and Green batting behind them and a solid bat in LoDuca they still
have a chance.

Tylen Kauhi <metaltiger224@...> wrote:
           It would be just our luck, after trading him that he
starts producing.....for another team. Considering
his age (what is he? 29?)and the huge chance he will
come around; that Moises Alou, though hitting well, is
up there in age, I think they should hold onto him.
The little things in hitting is always affected by the
shaving of confidence. Maybe Delgado should get
angry, then, instead of pounding the ball, just hit to
get on. Everytime I watch him, he looks as though he
is in a pressure cooker. After all, the Mets play
excellent small ball, and the bottom of the lineup has
been producing runs enough to assist in a win.

--- jimmy brash <illtownfiend@...> wrote:

> loduca has a solid glove without question, but
> castro's power is too inticing to be ignored for
> long. they need to train him to play first or
> something...speaking of which, maybe delgado needs
> to be traded this off season if the mets dont make
> it to the show.
>
> metaltiger224 <metaltiger224@...> wrote:
> While I got excited, then addicted to Ramon
> Castro's bat, Paul Loduca, on a pickoff of Harris,
> again, have me reiterating my belief in the
> decisions of Willie Randolph. I salivate at Ramon
> Castro's power, but I gotta give the putout talent
> of Paul Loduca credit. Time and again, with
> Catchers who have a quick release, a team could shut
> down the ability of opposing teams
> scoring late in the game. Bravo Paul Loduca.
>
>
>
>
>
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It would be just our luck, after trading him that he
starts producing.....for another team.  Considering
his age (what is he? 29?)and the huge chance he will
come around; that Moises Alou, though hitting well, is
up there in  age, I think they should hold onto him.
The little things in hitting is always affected by the
shaving of confidence.  Maybe Delgado should get
angry, then, instead of pounding the ball, just hit to
get on.  Everytime I watch him, he looks as though he
is in a pressure cooker.  After all, the Mets play
excellent small ball, and the bottom of the lineup has
been producing runs enough to assist in a win.


--- jimmy brash <illtownfiend@...> wrote:

> loduca has a solid glove without question, but
> castro's power is too inticing to be ignored for
> long. they need to train him to play first or
> something...speaking of which, maybe delgado needs
> to be traded this off season if the mets dont make
> it to the show.
>
> metaltiger224 <metaltiger224@...> wrote:
>    While I got excited, then addicted to Ramon
> Castro's bat, Paul Loduca, on a pickoff of Harris,
> again, have me reiterating my belief in the
> decisions of Willie Randolph. I salivate at Ramon
> Castro's power, but I gotta give the putout talent
> of Paul Loduca credit. Time and again, with
> Catchers who have a quick release, a team could shut
> down the ability of opposing teams
> scoring late in the game. Bravo Paul Loduca.
>
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loduca has a solid glove without question, but castro's power is too inticing to
be ignored for long. they need to train him to play first or
something...speaking of which, maybe delgado needs to be traded this off season
if the mets dont make it to the show.

metaltiger224 <metaltiger224@...> wrote:          While I got excited,
then addicted to Ramon Castro's bat, Paul Loduca, on a pickoff of Harris,
again, have me reiterating my belief in the decisions of Willie Randolph. I
salivate at Ramon
Castro's power, but I gotta give the putout talent of Paul Loduca credit. Time
and again, with
Catchers who have a quick release, a team could shut down the ability of
opposing teams
scoring late in the game. Bravo Paul Loduca.






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omar is a solid gm, but it helps that the wilpons leave him alone AND that they
have opened the purse strings a bit. steve phillips wasnt inept...just had poor
luck and gave too much money to vaughn, alomar & vaughn & cedeno. as for
castillo good move but would've liked to see another pitcher added to the mix
instead or a bat that strikes a a lil' fear in pitchers...but luis fills a need,
but i d notice kaz's improved play since being shipped off to the
rockies...bannister's improvement with the royals...everyone cant play well in
new york.

metaltiger224 <metaltiger224@...> wrote:          Production, production,
production. At a point when Castillo was 3 for 3, I believe on a
attempt at fielding a grounder, he got up off the ground rather gingerly. I
hoped he wasn't
hurt.
I do love his production. His production affirms my confidence in what Omar
Minaya
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Production, production, production.  At a point when Castillo was 3 for 3, I
believe on a
attempt at fielding a grounder, he got up off the ground rather gingerly.  I
hoped he wasn't
hurt.
I do love his production.  His production affirms my confidence in what Omar
Minaya
envisions for this team.

While I got excited, then addicted to Ramon Castro's bat, Paul Loduca, on a
pickoff of Harris,
again, have me reiterating my belief in the decisions of Willie Randolph.  I
salivate at Ramon
Castro's power, but I gotta give the putout talent of Paul Loduca credit.  Time
and again, with
Catchers who have a quick release, a team could shut down the ability of
opposing teams
scoring late in the game.  Bravo Paul Loduca.

After having read an issue of "Baseball America",
after discovering the kind of talent will be made
available in free agency following this season:
Jermaine Dye is one of them though his worth has
fallen with this season's performance.  I believe Mark
Buehrle is another.  Omar Minaya's patience, again,
may payoff.

I had, also, heard that Omar Minaya's philosophy is
"You can never have enough relief pitching".  So,
instead of starting pitching, he may beef up the
bullpen.  Whichever his direction, I know I'll be
pleased.


--- rcisak@... wrote:

> There really weren't any relievers out there worth
> top prospects.  Why
> trade the futue away for Eric Gangne, who's hold,
> and has had surgery?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Ric Burger <ricburger@...>
> Date: Wednesday, August 1, 2007 6:43 pm
> Subject: Re: [Mets Fanz United] Luis Castillo
> To: MetsFanzUnited@yahoogroups.com
>
> > The reason no deal for a reliever was made was not
> for lack of
> > trying.
> > Omar wasn't going to pay the premium prices being
> asked, and was
> > right
> > not to.
> > Tylen Kauhi wrote:
> > >
> > > I would be pleased to see Ruben Gotay at the 2B
> > > position full time. I agree Gotay shows some
> power at
> > > the plate, which, puzzled me, when Omar Minaya
> brought
> > > in Castillo. Don't get wrong, I'm for the move,
> > > assuming they will relieve each other
> frequently, but
> > > not so frequent for it to effect their
> performance.
> > > If Randolph can manage that, it would be
> affirmation,
> > > again, the choice of Randolph as Manager.
> > >
> > > Which brings me to the obvious question. What
> about
> > > the bullpen? Are we "that" stacked with relief
> arms?
> > > Or, is Minaya so good at this GM job, that he
> could
> > > cut it so close to the end of the season with
> managing
> > > talent: when to bring up young arms, when to
> activate
> > > players on the DL, when to rest key players,
> when to
> > > pull the trigger on players. Don't get me wrong,
> I
> > > admire Minaya and am glad he's here. This is the
> time
> > > where the men are separated from the boys.
> Minaya is
> > > a man whose decisions I trust. I can only
> believe he
> > > has a plan. Good luck, Omar.
> > >
> > > --- Brent Horowitz <brent.horowitz@...
> > > <mailto:brent.horowitz%40gmail.com>> wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Castillo trade is intrusting. Castillo a good
> hitter
> > > > who doesn't strike out
> > > > a lot. Is a great number 2 guy. However, he
> doesn't
> > > > have the pop of Gotay,
> > > > and hitting in the Metrodome is quite
> > > > different..than in in the NL. However,
> > > > Castillo is a Shea Stadium hitter. I think his
> > > > career numbers at Shea are
> > > > above .300. If the Mets don't want Gotay
> others
> > > > will. The problem for the
> > > > Mets are with Beltran out, they need Gotay's
> bat in
> > > > the lineup Im sorry but
> > > > Alou doesn't look good, and the fact is that
> the
> > > > Mets have more than enough
> > > > speed in the lineup with Reyes,Wright.
> Milledge, and
> > > > Beltran, when he is
> > > > healthy. Also don't forget Chavez.
> > > >
> > > > I like Castillo defensively cause he does have
> more
> > > > range and Delgado is a
> > > > liability at first.
> > > > Gotay is going to be the regular everyday 2nd
> > > > baseman next year, unless the
> > > > Mets sign Castillo who is a free agent.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -------Original Message-------
> > > >
> > > > From: Bubba11368
> > > > Date: 8/1/2007 12:56:16 PM
> > > > To: MetsFanzUnited@yahoogroups.com
> > > <mailto:MetsFanzUnited%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > Subject: Re: [Mets Fanz United] Luis Castillo
> > > >
> > > > This trade is insane, in a good way for the
> Mets I
> > > > can't wait to see Reyes
> > > > and Castillo on the same base paths they will
> drive
> > > > the opposing pitcher
> > > > crazy if they choose to use the running game
> the
> > > > opposing pitchers will be
> > > > worn out.
> > > >
> > > > metaltiger224 <metaltiger224@...
> > > <mailto:metaltiger224%40yahoo.com>> wrote:
> > > > Everything I have read on
> > > > Luis Castillo tells me this is a good trade.
> I'm a
> > > > bit hesitant to
> > > > enbrace this thought as Ruben Gotay has been
> hitting
> > > > so well when the team
> > > > needed him
> > > > most. There were moments when Gotay misplayed
> at
> > > > second base, but it did not
> > > > affect the
> > > > outcome of the game. Still, I see Castillo as
> > > > improvement on the defensive
> > > > side with pop at
> > > > the 2-hole. The key to winning will always be
> the
> > > > increased and constant on
> > > > base ability of
> > > > Jose Reyes. With this, Castillo should see
> more
> > > > opportunity at moving the
> > > > man up and RBI.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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> > > >
> > > >
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> > >
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There really weren't any relievers out there worth top prospects.  Why
trade the futue away for Eric Gangne, who's hold, and has had surgery?

----- Original Message -----
From: Ric Burger <ricburger@...>
Date: Wednesday, August 1, 2007 6:43 pm
Subject: Re: [Mets Fanz United] Luis Castillo
To: MetsFanzUnited@yahoogroups.com

> The reason no deal for a reliever was made was not for lack of
> trying.
> Omar wasn't going to pay the premium prices being asked, and was
> right
> not to.
> Tylen Kauhi wrote:
> >
> > I would be pleased to see Ruben Gotay at the 2B
> > position full time. I agree Gotay shows some power at
> > the plate, which, puzzled me, when Omar Minaya brought
> > in Castillo. Don't get wrong, I'm for the move,
> > assuming they will relieve each other frequently, but
> > not so frequent for it to effect their performance.
> > If Randolph can manage that, it would be affirmation,
> > again, the choice of Randolph as Manager.
> >
> > Which brings me to the obvious question. What about
> > the bullpen? Are we "that" stacked with relief arms?
> > Or, is Minaya so good at this GM job, that he could
> > cut it so close to the end of the season with managing
> > talent: when to bring up young arms, when to activate
> > players on the DL, when to rest key players, when to
> > pull the trigger on players. Don't get me wrong, I
> > admire Minaya and am glad he's here. This is the time
> > where the men are separated from the boys. Minaya is
> > a man whose decisions I trust. I can only believe he
> > has a plan. Good luck, Omar.
> >
> > --- Brent Horowitz <brent.horowitz@...
> > <mailto:brent.horowitz%40gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Castillo trade is intrusting. Castillo a good hitter
> > > who doesn't strike out
> > > a lot. Is a great number 2 guy. However, he doesn't
> > > have the pop of Gotay,
> > > and hitting in the Metrodome is quite
> > > different..than in in the NL. However,
> > > Castillo is a Shea Stadium hitter. I think his
> > > career numbers at Shea are
> > > above .300. If the Mets don't want Gotay others
> > > will. The problem for the
> > > Mets are with Beltran out, they need Gotay's bat in
> > > the lineup Im sorry but
> > > Alou doesn't look good, and the fact is that the
> > > Mets have more than enough
> > > speed in the lineup with Reyes,Wright. Milledge, and
> > > Beltran, when he is
> > > healthy. Also don't forget Chavez.
> > >
> > > I like Castillo defensively cause he does have more
> > > range and Delgado is a
> > > liability at first.
> > > Gotay is going to be the regular everyday 2nd
> > > baseman next year, unless the
> > > Mets sign Castillo who is a free agent.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -------Original Message-------
> > >
> > > From: Bubba11368
> > > Date: 8/1/2007 12:56:16 PM
> > > To: MetsFanzUnited@yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:MetsFanzUnited%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > Subject: Re: [Mets Fanz United] Luis Castillo
> > >
> > > This trade is insane, in a good way for the Mets I
> > > can't wait to see Reyes
> > > and Castillo on the same base paths they will drive
> > > the opposing pitcher
> > > crazy if they choose to use the running game the
> > > opposing pitchers will be
> > > worn out.
> > >
> > > metaltiger224 <metaltiger224@...
> > <mailto:metaltiger224%40yahoo.com>> wrote:
> > > Everything I have read on
> > > Luis Castillo tells me this is a good trade. I'm a
> > > bit hesitant to
> > > enbrace this thought as Ruben Gotay has been hitting
> > > so well when the team
> > > needed him
> > > most. There were moments when Gotay misplayed at
> > > second base, but it did not
> > > affect the
> > > outcome of the game. Still, I see Castillo as
> > > improvement on the defensive
> > > side with pop at
> > > the 2-hole. The key to winning will always be the
> > > increased and constant on
> > > base ability of
> > > Jose Reyes. With this, Castillo should see more
> > > opportunity at moving the
> > > man up and RBI.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > >
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Yeah, maybe the Yankees will take him, they need another first baseman, lol

jimmy brash <illtownfiend@...> wrote:                                  the
mets will give luis castillo an offer sheet.whether or not he accepts it, will
be a different story. as far as gotay is concerned, he may become a utility guy
if castillo does remain. delgado is becomeing a liablility defensively...he
should be traded to an a.l. team where he can be a dh. beltran cant seem to get
healthy...his in tangibles are hard to replace or compensate for.

  Brent Horowitz <brent.horowitz@...> wrote:
  Castillo trade is intrusting. Castillo a good hitter who doesn't strike out
  a lot. Is a great number 2 guy. However, he doesn't have the pop of Gotay,
  and hitting in the Metrodome is quite different..than in in the NL. However,
  Castillo is a Shea Stadium hitter. I think his career numbers at Shea are
  above .300. If the Mets don't want Gotay others will. The problem for the
  Mets are with Beltran out, they need Gotay's bat in the lineup Im sorry but
  Alou doesn't look good, and the fact is that the Mets have more than enough
  speed in the lineup with Reyes,Wright. Milledge, and Beltran, when he is
  healthy. Also don't forget Chavez.

  I like Castillo defensively cause he does have more range and Delgado is a
  liability at first.
  Gotay is going to be the regular everyday 2nd baseman next year, unless the
  Mets sign Castillo who is a free agent.

  -------Original Message-------

  From: Bubba11368
  Date: 8/1/2007 12:56:16 PM
  To: MetsFanzUnited@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [Mets Fanz United] Luis Castillo

  This trade is insane, in a good way for the Mets I can't wait to see Reyes
  and Castillo on the same base paths they will drive the opposing pitcher
  crazy if they choose to use the running game the opposing pitchers will be
  worn out.

  metaltiger224 <metaltiger224@...> wrote: Everything I have read on
  Luis Castillo tells me this is a good trade. I'm a bit hesitant to
  enbrace this thought as Ruben Gotay has been hitting so well when the team
  needed him
  most. There were moments when Gotay misplayed at second base, but it did not
  affect the
  outcome of the game. Still, I see Castillo as improvement on the defensive
  side with pop at
  the 2-hole. The key to winning will always be the increased and constant on
  base ability of
  Jose Reyes. With this, Castillo should see more opportunity at moving the
  man up and RBI.

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The reason no deal for a reliever was made was not for lack of trying.
Omar wasn't going to pay the premium prices being asked, and was right
not to.
Tylen Kauhi wrote:
>
> I would be pleased to see Ruben Gotay at the 2B
> position full time. I agree Gotay shows some power at
> the plate, which, puzzled me, when Omar Minaya brought
> in Castillo. Don't get wrong, I'm for the move,
> assuming they will relieve each other frequently, but
> not so frequent for it to effect their performance.
> If Randolph can manage that, it would be affirmation,
> again, the choice of Randolph as Manager.
>
> Which brings me to the obvious question. What about
> the bullpen? Are we "that" stacked with relief arms?
> Or, is Minaya so good at this GM job, that he could
> cut it so close to the end of the season with managing
> talent: when to bring up young arms, when to activate
> players on the DL, when to rest key players, when to
> pull the trigger on players. Don't get me wrong, I
> admire Minaya and am glad he's here. This is the time
> where the men are separated from the boys. Minaya is
> a man whose decisions I trust. I can only believe he
> has a plan. Good luck, Omar.
>
> --- Brent Horowitz <brent.horowitz@...
> <mailto:brent.horowitz%40gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> >
> > Castillo trade is intrusting. Castillo a good hitter
> > who doesn't strike out
> > a lot. Is a great number 2 guy. However, he doesn't
> > have the pop of Gotay,
> > and hitting in the Metrodome is quite
> > different..than in in the NL. However,
> > Castillo is a Shea Stadium hitter. I think his
> > career numbers at Shea are
> > above .300. If the Mets don't want Gotay others
> > will. The problem for the
> > Mets are with Beltran out, they need Gotay's bat in
> > the lineup Im sorry but
> > Alou doesn't look good, and the fact is that the
> > Mets have more than enough
> > speed in the lineup with Reyes,Wright. Milledge, and
> > Beltran, when he is
> > healthy. Also don't forget Chavez.
> >
> > I like Castillo defensively cause he does have more
> > range and Delgado is a
> > liability at first.
> > Gotay is going to be the regular everyday 2nd
> > baseman next year, unless the
> > Mets sign Castillo who is a free agent.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -------Original Message-------
> >
> > From: Bubba11368
> > Date: 8/1/2007 12:56:16 PM
> > To: MetsFanzUnited@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:MetsFanzUnited%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Mets Fanz United] Luis Castillo
> >
> > This trade is insane, in a good way for the Mets I
> > can't wait to see Reyes
> > and Castillo on the same base paths they will drive
> > the opposing pitcher
> > crazy if they choose to use the running game the
> > opposing pitchers will be
> > worn out.
> >
> > metaltiger224 <metaltiger224@...
> <mailto:metaltiger224%40yahoo.com>> wrote:
> > Everything I have read on
> > Luis Castillo tells me this is a good trade. I'm a
> > bit hesitant to
> > enbrace this thought as Ruben Gotay has been hitting
> > so well when the team
> > needed him
> > most. There were moments when Gotay misplayed at
> > second base, but it did not
> > affect the
> > outcome of the game. Still, I see Castillo as
> > improvement on the defensive
> > side with pop at
> > the 2-hole. The key to winning will always be the
> > increased and constant on
> > base ability of
> > Jose Reyes. With this, Castillo should see more
> > opportunity at moving the
> > man up and RBI.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been
> > removed]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >
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octavio dotel would have been an excellent pick-up for the mets. i am starting
to think that the mets should of stayed with brian bannister for another
season...his control has improved(as well as his win total) since going to the
royals. what if the mets moved either pedro or el duque to the bull pen,
especially pedro, would that stablize the pen thru september and beyond? also,
what happened to trading for torii hunter? was that a big farce or what!

Tylen Kauhi <metaltiger224@...> wrote:          I would be pleased to see
Ruben Gotay at the 2B
position full time. I agree Gotay shows some power at
the plate, which, puzzled me, when Omar Minaya brought
in Castillo. Don't get wrong, I'm for the move,
assuming they will relieve each other frequently, but
not so frequent for it to effect their performance.
If Randolph can manage that, it would be affirmation,
again, the choice of Randolph as Manager.

Which brings me to the obvious question. What about
the bullpen? Are we "that" stacked with relief arms?
Or, is Minaya so good at this GM job, that he could
cut it so close to the end of the season with managing
talent: when to bring up young arms, when to activate
players on the DL, when to rest key players, when to
pull the trigger on players. Don't get me wrong, I
admire Minaya and am glad he's here. This is the time
where the men are separated from the boys. Minaya is
a man whose decisions I trust. I can only believe he
has a plan. Good luck, Omar.

--- Brent Horowitz <brent.horowitz@...> wrote:

>
> Castillo trade is intrusting. Castillo a good hitter
> who doesn't strike out
> a lot. Is a great number 2 guy. However, he doesn't
> have the pop of Gotay,
> and hitting in the Metrodome is quite
> different..than in in the NL. However,
> Castillo is a Shea Stadium hitter. I think his
> career numbers at Shea are
> above .300. If the Mets don't want Gotay others
> will. The problem for the
> Mets are with Beltran out, they need Gotay's bat in
> the lineup Im sorry but
> Alou doesn't look good, and the fact is that the
> Mets have more than enough
> speed in the lineup with Reyes,Wright. Milledge, and
> Beltran, when he is
> healthy. Also don't forget Chavez.
>
> I like Castillo defensively cause he does have more
> range and Delgado is a
> liability at first.
> Gotay is going to be the regular everyday 2nd
> baseman next year, unless the
> Mets sign Castillo who is a free agent.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -------Original Message-------
>
> From: Bubba11368
> Date: 8/1/2007 12:56:16 PM
> To: MetsFanzUnited@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Mets Fanz United] Luis Castillo
>
> This trade is insane, in a good way for the Mets I
> can't wait to see Reyes
> and Castillo on the same base paths they will drive
> the opposing pitcher
> crazy if they choose to use the running game the
> opposing pitchers will be
> worn out.
>
> metaltiger224 <metaltiger224@...> wrote:
> Everything I have read on
> Luis Castillo tells me this is a good trade. I'm a
> bit hesitant to
> enbrace this thought as Ruben Gotay has been hitting
> so well when the team
> needed him
> most. There were moments when Gotay misplayed at
> second base, but it did not
> affect the
> outcome of the game. Still, I see Castillo as
> improvement on the defensive
> side with pop at
> the 2-hole. The key to winning will always be the
> increased and constant on
> base ability of
> Jose Reyes. With this, Castillo should see more
> opportunity at moving the
> man up and RBI.
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been
> removed]
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been
> removed]
>
>

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the mets will give luis castillo an offer sheet.whether or not he accepts it,
will be a different story. as far as gotay is concerned, he may become a utility
guy if castillo does remain. delgado is becomeing a liablility defensively...he
should be traded to an a.l. team where he can be a dh. beltran cant seem to get
healthy...his in tangibles are hard to replace or compensate for.

Brent Horowitz <brent.horowitz@...> wrote:
Castillo trade is intrusting. Castillo a good hitter who doesn't strike out
a lot. Is a great number 2 guy. However, he doesn't have the pop of Gotay,
and hitting in the Metrodome is quite different..than in in the NL. However,
Castillo is a Shea Stadium hitter. I think his career numbers at Shea are
above .300. If the Mets don't want Gotay others will. The problem for the
Mets are with Beltran out, they need Gotay's bat in the lineup Im sorry but
Alou doesn't look good, and the fact is that the Mets have more than enough
speed in the lineup with Reyes,Wright. Milledge, and Beltran, when he is
healthy. Also don't forget Chavez.

I like Castillo defensively cause he does have more range and Delgado is a
liability at first.
Gotay is going to be the regular everyday 2nd baseman next year, unless the
Mets sign Castillo who is a free agent.






-------Original Message-------

From: Bubba11368
Date: 8/1/2007 12:56:16 PM
To: MetsFanzUnited@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Mets Fanz United] Luis Castillo

This trade is insane, in a good way for the Mets I can't wait to see Reyes
and Castillo on the same base paths they will drive the opposing pitcher
crazy if they choose to use the running game the opposing pitchers will be
worn out.

metaltiger224 <metaltiger224@...> wrote: Everything I have read on
Luis Castillo tells me this is a good trade. I'm a bit hesitant to
enbrace this thought as Ruben Gotay has been hitting so well when the team
needed him
most. There were moments when Gotay misplayed at second base, but it did not
affect the
outcome of the game. Still, I see Castillo as improvement on the defensive
side with pop at
the 2-hole. The key to winning will always be the increased and constant on
base ability of
Jose Reyes. With this, Castillo should see more opportunity at moving the
man up and RBI.





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