Anyone have any photos of Yenko Stingers? Writing a book and need photos- proper
credit acknowledged of course....   Charlie

 

Charlie -   Sorry I can't help with photos, but let me know when the book is available.  As a kid, and even today, I loved the Stingers.   I remember very vividally going up to Don at Marlboro and asking him for his autograph.  Wish I had still had all those autographs I had gotten at Marlboro.   There is one in the Chicagoland area if that is help in anyway.   Thumbs Up - Steve --- On Tue, 9/6/11, charlesd <cdoerge1@...> wrote: From: charlesd <cdoerge1@...> Subject: [Marlboro_Raceway] Photos To: Marlboro_Raceway@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, September 6, 2011, 5:32 PM   Anyone have any photos of Yenko Stingers? Writing a book and need photos- proper credit acknowledged of course.... Charlie

These email for Mac Tilton should go to his personal email account, not this business account.

mtpersonal@...

Best,

Bruce Duncan

MT Guns

-----Original Message-----
From: "Pelouze, Craige"
Sent: Sep 14, 2011 7:33 AM
To: "Marlboro_Raceway@yahoogroups.com"
Cc: Irv Sanderson , "Pelouze, Melanie"
Subject: [Marlboro_Raceway] 67 Marlboro Trans Am

 

Jon, I  was in that race and probably have some articles, entry list, and photos, etc and will see what I can turn up for you .

As a side note on Yenko Stingers; I ran quite a few races against them in the Boulevard Import and Sam Perry’s Saabs in the early/mid 60’s. On one special day  at VIR I was having a great battle with one and our lap times were identical. I could pass him under braking and in the corners but he could pull me on the straights.  So it was a given that on the last lap he would out pull me coming down pit straight to the flag and win.  We approached Oak Tree side by side and as I went through all of the  3 gears I looked in the mirror and he had broken a wheel and was wobbling off in the grass.  I was laughing so hard going in to Hog Pen that I forgot to brake and went off track and down hill through the stumps came back on track and won the race and set the FTD in the process.  Every one came running up and asked how I set such a hot lap and I casually said” I braked late”. True story but most didn’t work out quite so well!!! But we really did have much fun in those golden days of sports car racing. How lucky we were to have made so many great friends and had the privilege to be a part of history!!!

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Coverage of the event

http://www.laprecord.com/

Jaguar is featured, Bob Tullius is Grand Marshal

Art Riley's Volvo attends, as usual :)

August has been a great month

Felicia Yesari / fyesari@... / p: 212 751 3147 c: 917 378 7385

I'm 69, became paralyzed in 2007, confined to a wheelchair, but otherwise
feeling great.  I have a lot of time on my hands and am thus trying to assemble
various racing trophies, etc. in a case in my bedroom.  I find that I have very
few photos from the 1963 school (in a maroon courier that a fellow named Ray
Issacs was kind enough to loan me, but I have no photos at all of the DP car. 
It was a 1960 Daimler SP-250, #14, same off-white color as Dunan Black's famous
#4. I had bought it from a friend named John Piggott who lived in Great Falls,
VA.

I raced it 3 times, in each race finished third behind the late Jim Ladd,
A-H-3000, and the great Bob Tullius, TR-4.

If anyone can help, please contact me via email. I would just like to borrow the
photos and would then copy them and return.

Thanks!

Ray Fleming
2765 East Mayberry Road
Taneytown, MD 21787
443-547-9827
rayfleming170b@...

I'm 69, became paralyzed in 2007, confined to a wheelchair, but otherwise feeling great. I have a lot of time on my hands and am thus trying to assemble various racing trophies, etc. in a case in my bedroom. I find that I have very few photos from the 1963 school (in a maroon courier that a fellow named Ray Issacs was kind enough to loan me, but I have no photos at all of the DP car. It was a 1960 Daimler SP-250, #14, same off-white color as Dunan Black's famous #4. I had bought it from a friend named John Piggott who lived in Great Falls, VA.
I raced it 3 times, in each race finished third behind the late Jim Ladd, A-H-3000, and the great Bob Tullius, TR-4.
If anyone can help, please contact me via email. I would just like to borrow the photos and would then copy them and return.
Thanks!
Ray Fleming
2765 East Mayberry Road
Taneytown, MD 21787
443-547-9827
rayfleming170b@...

Hi Bob,

 

I drive "Luigi" my 1960 Alfa Giulietta Spider Veloce vintage racer <ran as black #54 at Marlboro, VIR, the Glen and other tracks with Michael Jamison and others from 65 to 76> on the street with a pair of super trap mufflers on straight pipes - plexi windscreen - roll bar my VSCCA race #173 on both doors headlights taped -- some police look most roll on by a few have waved and given me a thumbs up -- super traps rusted out  - going to Ansa tips used on a Ferrari Dino 246 front engined sports racer for a brief period

 

Regards,

Sam Smith

 

 

---

From: "Bob" <bstorck@...>
To: "Marlboro Raceway" <Marlboro_Raceway@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 8:31:57 PM
Subject: Re: [Marlboro_Raceway] Looking for photos...Marlboro, 1963 Driver's School, 1964-66 Regionals,  D-Prod

 

I can't help you with any early pix of the car, but I'm pretty sure I owned it for a while and last heard, it's still racing in vintage by my occasional crew chief, Bob Moser in Michigan.

I bought the car from an ad in the Stopwatcher, and it came with wire wheels and a distinctive Wallbar. I recall the fellow I bought it from mentioned John Piggot as a previous owner, thus feel it was the same car. My landlord at the time and mentor, Al Wall had recollections of Pierre Mion being involved with the car at some time, whether as just a driver or what was not clear.

I raced it in a couple Solo 1 events at Marlboro, and two regional races in which I won DP (as the fast guys had off weekends.) fyi, during that time I lived at 5047 Mass Ave., a block in from the MD line, and rented a single car garage from a neighbor without heat (or initially light!) I drove the car to the track with racing numbers and plug in mufflers, but no windshield or bumpers, to and from each day. Down past the embassies and Naval Observatory, down onto Rock Creek Parkway past the Kennedy center and the Lincoln Memorial amphitheater,  past the cherry trees and under the Bureau of Engraving onto the SW Freeway, off at South Capitol street and across that bridge to the Suitland Parkway, to Pennsylvania Ave. extended to Rt 301 and the racetrack. Obviously did this at least 14-16 times and waved at several officers enroute, but was never stopped. Try that today.

Then I wound up taking a year off due to work, romance and other things, and during that year Summit Point opened. For some reason, the powers that be demanded that I run another driver school, despite having been undefeated in the SW Div in a DS Mini over two seasons, and having driven the Daytona 24, Sebring, and other enduros. SCCA is still SCCA! I ran the first driver school at the Point IIRC, and would have won the race handily but for some ringer named Al Holbert who showed up with a CP 914-6. btw, my instructor was Paul O'Malley who confessed to me that his license had expired four seasons back, and he hadn't bothered to renew it. (And, oh yes, I had instructed twice in the interim at VIR, but that was in the SEDiv, and somehow didn't count ...)

I was loosely partnered with Chestertown's Bill Jarrell with his red SP-250 #64. We installed a proper racing seat and knock-off Minilites, and with the help of Lanky and Brian at Group 44 down the Falls Church road,  installed traction bars, lowered the suspension, a locked rear, and rebraced the roll bar to pick up suspension towers. As the ivory was looking a bit tatty, the car became the Mopar "Moby Grape" purple. The official number was 13, but due to conflicts in other regions, it raced more often as 18 or 19. It ran at Nelson, Pocono, Reading, Lime Rock, Thompson, Bryar and Cumberland as well at the Point.

Few races were dnfs, but maintenance between races was maddeningly high for a guy with a full time job with travel, night college, SCCA production classes demanded too many fragile parts.

When an ABC-TV cameraman, Jack ? called and made me an offer, I sold the car and went to my love, sports racers. But that's another ramble. Apparently Jack spent too much time and money on expensive and unproductive mods, and the car seldom finished. He sold the car, and that's when Bob Moser (who grew up in Wheaton and became a Chrysler exec.) found it. He since has painted it black, and done a proper preparation, and when I see him and the car listed and pictured in vintage mags, they are usually winners.

Cheers, Bob

On 9/26/2011 4:11 PM, Ray Fleming wrote:

I'm 69, became paralyzed in 2007, confined to a wheelchair, but otherwise feeling great.  I have a lot of time on my hands and am thus trying to assemble various racing trophies, etc. in a case in my bedroom.  I find that I have very few photos from the 1963 school (in a maroon courier that a fellow named Ray Issacs was kind enough to loan me, but I have no photos at all of the DP car.  It was a 1960 Daimler SP-250, #14, same off-white color as Dunan Black's famous #4. I had bought it from a friend named John Piggott who lived in Great Falls, VA.

I raced it 3 times, in each race finished third behind the late Jim Ladd, A-H-3000, and the great Bob Tullius, TR-4.

If anyone can help, please contact me via email. I would just like to borrow the photos and would then copy them and return.

Thanks!

Ray Fleming
2765 East Mayberry Road
Taneytown, MD 21787
443-547-9827
rayfleming170b@...

Folks,
Have you heard about the group that apparently got permission (?) to scan SCCA's
SportsCar magazine from 1944 through 1970? Anyone know about this effort? Here
is their web address:  www.sportscarscan.com .

If anyone has purchsed this, I'd sure like to know what they think of it. I am
investigating it for the Washington DC Region, SCCA, but I wouldn't want them to
spend the money unless this is worth the $375. If it is good as they say it is,
I would think it would be invaluable for some of our Marlboro group.

Steve Lloyd, Historian
Washington DC Region, SCCA

Aloha Steve,

I have been offered this CD. It is claimed that it is searchable. Do not know if
this means issue by issue or globally. That would be an advantage.

Since I have all the paper issues from 1944 until the end of 1966 and all of the
National Newsletters I have given it a pass.

Best wishes,

David

Kauai
On 29 Sep 2011, at 11:32, slloydmarlboro wrote:

> Folks,
> Have you heard about the group that apparently got permission (?) to scan
SCCA's SportsCar magazine from 1944 through 1970? Anyone know about this effort?
Here is their web address:  www.sportscarscan.com .
>
> If anyone has purchsed this, I'd sure like to know what they think of it. I am
investigating it for the Washington DC Region, SCCA, but I wouldn't want them to
spend the money unless this is worth the $375. If it is good as they say it is,
I would think it would be invaluable for some of our Marlboro group.
>
> Steve Lloyd, Historian
> Washington DC Region, SCCA
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

Rick-I just stumbled on this because I was searching for info on the third of
the three infamous Cohen brothers, Fred. Fred and I were good friends at U of
MD.  He was a few years older, had served in military...at some point, he went
to England and paid a bunch of extra money to buy a BRG "factory" TR3A. I
remember changing his clutch out in a parking lot somewhere, maybe
Rockville...I'll never forget his definition of a factory Triumph...one that
should have never left the factory! Fred was one of the brightest, funniest guys
I ever knew. I remember hanging out with all 3 brothers when Al was racing the
Lotus 11 at M-boro.  Coincidentally, at U of M, there was an English Lit.
professor named Carl Bode, who had two daughters, both stunningly beautiful and
smart. Fred was dating the oldest, named Carolyn or Caroline as I recall, and I
was real close to the youngest, named Janet.  Some time in the late
sixties/earlyy seventies, Janet wrote a very well recieved book on
somethingrelated to child psychology, and sadly, was raped and murdered shortly
after that.  Let me know if you know Fred's whereabouts.  Is this a small world
or what? Regards, Ray

--- In Marlboro_Raceway@yahoogroups.com, "RICK MANDELSON" <rollingthunder78@...>
wrote:
>
> Hi Phil
>
> Yes, I knew Al.  He and I went to the same High School and if there was anyone
more impoverished monetarily than I as a racer it was Al.  All his money went
into that Lotus 11 and all he ate was vitamin pills and water. (he was driven)
>
> I helped him a little from a mechanical point of view and I believe it was in
the very early sixties.
>
> He was a hell of a tennis player and went to Florida to teach the sport and
make a living out of it.  I see his brother Sheldon from time to time.
>
> Rick Mandelson
> Ellicott City, Maryland
>
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: toyphil@...
>   To: Marlboro_Raceway@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 5:06 PM
>   Subject: Re: [Marlboro_Raceway] Al Cohen
>
>
>
>   I was justing talking to a friend of mine about the Marlboro project. He had
a tennis buddy in Ft. Lauderdale, Al Cohen, who raced a Lotus (11?) at Marlboro.
Does anyone in the group know who this is?
>
>   Phil Charlwood
>

Hi Bob,

I do prefer that people smile rather then cry <a clown by definition;> -- my Alfa is prepared as well as I can make or pay to make it so - far better then when I bought it in 93 --Tivvy JR Bob Williams Steve Earle Ralph Whaley have ALL passed "Luigi" as safe to race -- I am sure better drivers could do much better with the car but then I would not have the enjoyment I waited over forty years for!
Please direct your scorn elsewhere

Sam Smith

I helped at tech, timing and scoring, corner working and helped anyone who need help at Marlboro Raceway from 1961 to 69

---

From: "Bob" <bstorck@...>
To: "Marlboro Raceway" <Marlboro_Raceway@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 10:59:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Marlboro_Raceway] Looking for photos...Marlboro, 1963 Driver's School, 1964-66 Regionals,  D-Prod

 

Good on ya!

I saw a guy with a '56 Vette with the engine bored and stroked to over 400 cubes, and fenders stretched to contain the ridiculous rubber. He quickly found out that the frame that had been based on a '53 Biscayne needed big time bracing to handle the rubber and loud pedal bits. Worst yet, the level of prep and workmanship would not have been a threat to a Saturday night hobby class beater.

Vintage brings out the clowns!

Cheers, Bob
(a waste of a rare car!)

On 9/28/2011 8:55 PM, Sam_Smith01@... wrote:

Hi Bob,

 

I drive "Luigi" my 1960 Alfa Giulietta Spider Veloce vintage racer <ran as black #54 at Marlboro, VIR, the Glen and other tracks with Michael Jamison and others from 65 to 76> on the street with a pair of super trap mufflers on straight pipes - plexi windscreen - roll bar my VSCCA race #173 on both doors headlights taped -- some police look most roll on by a few have waved and given me a thumbs up -- super traps rusted out  - going to Ansa tips used on a Ferrari Dino 246 front engined sports racer for a brief period

 

Regards,

Sam Smith

 

 

---

From: "Bob" <bstorck@...>
To: "Marlboro Raceway" <Marlboro_Raceway@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 8:31:57 PM
Subject: Re: [Marlboro_Raceway] Looking for photos...Marlboro, 1963 Driver's School, 1964-66 Regionals,  D-Prod

 

I can't help you with any early pix of the car, but I'm pretty sure I owned it for a while and last heard, it's still racing in vintage by my occasional crew chief, Bob Moser in Michigan.

I bought the car from an ad in the Stopwatcher, and it came with wire wheels and a distinctive Wallbar. I recall the fellow I bought it from mentioned John Piggot as a previous owner, thus feel it was the same car. My landlord at the time and mentor, Al Wall had recollections of Pierre Mion being involved with the car at some time, whether as just a driver or what was not clear.

I raced it in a couple Solo 1 events at Marlboro, and two regional races in which I won DP (as the fast guys had off weekends.) fyi, during that time I lived at 5047 Mass Ave., a block in from the MD line, and rented a single car garage from a neighbor without heat (or initially light!) I drove the car to the track with racing numbers and plug in mufflers, but no windshield or bumpers, to and from each day. Down past the embassies and Naval Observatory, down onto Rock Creek Parkway past the Kennedy center and the Lincoln Memorial amphitheater,  past the cherry trees and under the Bureau of Engraving onto the SW Freeway, off at South Capitol street and across that bridge to the Suitland Parkway, to Pennsylvania Ave. extended to Rt 301 and the racetrack. Obviously did this at least 14-16 times and waved at several officers enroute, but was never stopped. Try that today.

Then I wound up taking a year off due to work, romance and other things, and during that year Summit Point opened. For some reason, the powers that be demanded that I run another driver school, despite having been undefeated in the SW Div in a DS Mini over two seasons, and having driven the Daytona 24, Sebring, and other enduros. SCCA is still SCCA! I ran the first driver school at the Point IIRC, and would have won the race handily but for some ringer named Al Holbert who showed up with a CP 914-6. btw, my instructor was Paul O'Malley who confessed to me that his license had expired four seasons back, and he hadn't bothered to renew it. (And, oh yes, I had instructed twice in the interim at VIR, but that was in the SEDiv, and somehow didn't count ...)

I was loosely partnered with Chestertown's Bill Jarrell with his red SP-250 #64. We installed a proper racing seat and knock-off Minilites, and with the help of Lanky and Brian at Group 44 down the Falls Church road,  installed traction bars, lowered the suspension, a locked rear, and rebraced the roll bar to pick up suspension towers. As the ivory was looking a bit tatty, the car became the Mopar "Moby Grape" purple. The official number was 13, but due to conflicts in other regions, it raced more often as 18 or 19. It ran at Nelson, Pocono, Reading, Lime Rock, Thompson, Bryar and Cumberland as well at the Point.

Few races were dnfs, but maintenance between races was maddeningly high for a guy with a full time job with travel, night college, SCCA production classes demanded too many fragile parts.

When an ABC-TV cameraman, Jack ? called and made me an offer, I sold the car and went to my love, sports racers. But that's another ramble. Apparently Jack spent too much time and money on expensive and unproductive mods, and the car seldom finished. He sold the car, and that's when Bob Moser (who grew up in Wheaton and became a Chrysler exec.) found it. He since has painted it black, and done a proper preparation, and when I see him and the car listed and pictured in vintage mags, they are usually winners.

Cheers, Bob

On 9/26/2011 4:11 PM, Ray Fleming wrote:

I'm 69, became paralyzed in 2007, confined to a wheelchair, but otherwise feeling great.  I have a lot of time on my hands and am thus trying to assemble various racing trophies, etc. in a case in my bedroom.  I find that I have very few photos from the 1963 school (in a maroon courier that a fellow named Ray Issacs was kind enough to loan me, but I have no photos at all of the DP car.  It was a 1960 Daimler SP-250, #14, same off-white color as Dunan Black's famous #4. I had bought it from a friend named John Piggott who lived in Great Falls, VA.

I raced it 3 times, in each race finished third behind the late Jim Ladd, A-H-3000, and the great Bob Tullius, TR-4.

If anyone can help, please contact me via email. I would just like to borrow the photos and would then copy them and return.

Thanks!

Ray Fleming
2765 East Mayberry Road
Taneytown, MD 21787
443-547-9827
rayfleming170b@...