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I am forwarding an update on Donna Mae. If you didn't send a card then this is a good time to do it.

I hope everyone had a good summer, racing, watching racing, or just keeping busy. Bob Hines

Hello to all Donna Mae Mims Fans,

I spoke with Eric Dean, who with John Connolly, is handling affairs for Donna Mae, and asked about sending cards, flowers, and receiving visitors. He says to hold off right now until they get her settled in somewhere. She has been moved several times and it seems the cards and flowers aren’t finding her and she shouldn’t have visitors at this time. He says she can’t speak or write but understands everything. Eric said he would be sending another update soon maybe when things get more settled. Here’s what we can do: Send cards for Donna Mae to Eric and he will hand deliver. I will get a card for the Corvette Club of Western PA to sign and will bring one to the two SCCA races at Nelson Ledges in Oct. - maybe some of you can do the same to let her know we are thinking about her and miss her. Let’s keep Donna Mae in our thoughts and prayers.

Carol B. Davis
CCWP
SCCA

To send cards:
Donna Mae Mims
c/o Eric Dean
180 Warwick Dr.
Upper St. Clair, PA 15241

PS
I read this email over the phone to Eric and he approved it before I sent it to everyone.

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#1922

From: Bob <bstorck@...>
Date: Wed Oct 7, 2009 5:40 pm
Subject: Donna Mae Mims

fannum

Dean wrote:
> I just received word via the production forum that Donna Mae passed
> away at 10:30 last night.
> Bummer.
>

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#1923

From: Robert Hines <racerbob4@...>
Date: Wed Oct 7, 2009 5:52 pm
Subject: Re: Donna Mae Mims

racerbob4

The information that I passed on was received this morning. I will wait until I hear from my contacts.

Bob did you use to live in a wooded area behind the Wall house?

From: Bob <bstorck@...>
To: Marlboro_Raceway@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, October 7, 2009 10:40:15 AM
Subject: [Marlboro_Raceway] Donna Mae Mims

Dean wrote:
> I just received word via the production forum that Donna Mae passed
> away at 10:30 last night.
> Bummer.
>

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#1924

From: Robert Hines <racerbob4@...>
Date: Sat Oct 10, 2009 12:15 am
Subject: Fw: Donna Mae - Sad News

racerbob4

I found the following in my email, today, Friday October 9th

--- On Thu, 10/8/09, Chris Granche <zorrocg@...> wrote:

Date: Thursday, October 8, 2009, 2:07 PM

By now you probably have heard of Donna Mae's passing. Here are the details:

MIMS DONNA MAE
Age 82 of Bridgeville on Tuesday October 6, 2009. Born July 1, 1927 to George Warnoch and Margaret Bodner. She was know by many as the "Pink Lady, Think Pink, Donna Amazing and even Free Maui". Donna started racing in 1958 and was the first woman driver ever to win a Sports Car Club of America National Championship H Production 1963 ( only 2 other ladies since). Her career and involvement in Yenko led her to racing such cars as the Camaro, Austin Healey, MG, Corvette and Corvairs. She worked for Yenko Chevrolet and Yenko sports car division as executive secretary for both and was the liaison for design and production with the Yenko sports car division a they cars as the Duece, Camaro, Nova, Chevelle, Yenko Stingers and Corvair. She worked closely with Zora Arkus-Duntov, Ed Cole and the pioneers of Chevrolet Racing. She coordinated parts delivery and car development of Corvette Race Cars in Canonsburg PA. She raced many time in Sebring, Daytona, and Riverside . Donna Mae was as original participant in the original Cannonball Run where her 1972 Cadillac Limo was wrecked with her teammate behind the wheel. She was known as being able to go toe to toe with some of the best drivers in the country at speeds up to 140 miles per hour. She was an avid longtime member of the SCCA and her other interests included Jazz music and teaching Sunday school as an active member in Mt. Lebanon United Methodist Church . Funeral Arrangements By BEINHAUER. Peters Township 724-941-3211 friends are welcome to attend a celebration of her life Saturday and Sunday from 2pm till 8pm both days. Additional visitation Monday from 10 am until time of service at 11 am. Memorial contributions may be made to the National Corvette Museum , Bowling Green Kentucky . Please add or view tributes at www.beinhauerfamilyservices.com
Send condolences at post-gazette.com/gb

We will miss her.
~ Chris ~
ALL:



   It should also be noted that DONNA MAE was a longtime member of the

STEEL CITIES REGION of the SPORTS CAR CLUB OF AMERICA and

the CORVETTE CLUB OF WESTERN PENNSYLVANIA. She was a

founder and member of the STEELTOWN CORVETTE CLUB and the THREE RIVERS CORVETTE CLUB. She also is a member of the WESTERN PENNSLYVANIA CORVAIR CLUB and sometimes participated in the BLUE RIDGE MOUNTAIN SPORTS CAR CLUB events (especially the socials). DONNA MAE will be remembered for our SPRING FLINGS formerly DNF parties up on Mt Washington each year when she rounded up many of our old timers for great socials to kickoff the racing season each year. Don't forget she has been involved with the PITTSBURGH VINTAGE GRAND PRIX since the first year (1983), most times as a Grid Marshal and some times as a pit crew member.

                                                     Don Baker / SCR-SCCA

PS: Following the memorial service, friends are invited to

BELLA SERA by GRECO's 414 Morgan Rd, Cannonsburg 15317.

Corvette owners are requested to cruise from Beinhauer's to Bella Sera's.

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#1925

From: Don Haines <gtracer66@...>
Date: Sat Oct 10, 2009 5:19 pm
Subject: RE: Fw: Donna Mae - Sad News

donhainesphoto

I read the Obituary in one of the PA papers yesterday. They said she had requested that her viewing should be in/on her pink Corvette. Sounds like her.

It is sad news...

Don

To: Marlboro_Raceway@yahoogroups.com
From: racerbob4@...
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 17:15:52 -0700
Subject: [Marlboro_Raceway] Fw: Donna Mae - Sad News

I found the following in my email, today, Friday October 9th

--- On Thu, 10/8/09, Chris Granche <zorrocg@msn.com> wrote:

Date: Thursday, October 8, 2009, 2:07 PM

By now you probably have heard of Donna Mae's passing. Here are the details:

MIMS DONNA MAE
Age 82 of Bridgeville on Tuesday October 6, 2009. Born July 1, 1927 to George Warnoch and Margaret Bodner. She was know by many as the "Pink Lady, Think Pink, Donna Amazing and even Free Maui". Donna started racing in 1958 and was the first woman driver ever to win a Sports Car Club of America National Championship H Production 1963 ( only 2 other ladies since). Her career and involvement in Yenko led her to racing such cars as the Camaro, Austin Healey, MG, Corvette and Corvairs. She worked for Yenko Chevrolet and Yenko sports car division as executive secretary for both and was the liaison for design and production with the Yenko sports car division a they cars as the Duece, Camaro, Nova, Chevelle, Yenko Stingers and Corvair. She worked closely with Zora Arkus-Duntov, Ed Cole and the pioneers of Chevrolet Racing. She coordinated parts delivery and car development of Corvette Race Cars in Canonsburg PA. She raced many time in Sebring, Daytona, and Riverside . Donna Mae was as original participant in the original Cannonball Run where her 1972 Cadillac Limo was wrecked with her teammate behind the wheel. She was known as being able to go toe to toe with some of the best drivers in the country at speeds up to 140 miles per hour. She was an avid longtime member of the SCCA and her other interests included Jazz music and teaching Sunday school as an active member in Mt. Lebanon United Methodist Church . Funeral Arrangements By BEINHAUER. Peters Township 724-941-3211 friends are welcome to attend a celebration of her life Saturday and Sunday from 2pm till 8pm both days. Additional visitation Monday from 10 am until time of service at 11 am. Memorial contributions may be made to the National Corvette Museum , Bowling Green Kentucky . Please add or view tributes at www.beinhauerfamilyservices.com
Send condolences at post-gazette.com/gb

We will miss her.
~ Chris ~
ALL:



   It should also be noted that DONNA MAE was a longtime member of the

STEEL CITIES REGION of the SPORTS CAR CLUB OF AMERICA and

the CORVETTE CLUB OF WESTERN PENNSYLVANIA. She was a

founder and member of the STEELTOWN CORVETTE CLUB and the THREE RIVERS CORVETTE CLUB. She also is a member of the WESTERN PENNSLYVANIA CORVAIR CLUB and sometimes participated in the BLUE RIDGE MOUNTAIN SPORTS CAR CLUB events (especially the socials). DONNA MAE will be remembered for our SPRING FLINGS formerly DNF parties up on Mt Washington each year when she rounded up many of our old timers for great socials to kickoff the racing season each year. Don't forget she has been involved with the PITTSBURGH VINTAGE GRAND PRIX since the first year (1983), most times as a Grid Marshal and some times as a pit crew member.

                                                     Don Baker / SCR-SCCA

PS: Following the memorial service, friends are invited to

BELLA SERA by GRECO's 414 Morgan Rd, Cannonsburg 15317.

Corvette owners are requested to cruise from Beinhauer's to Bella Sera's.

Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. Get it now.

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#1926

From: Robert Hines <racerbob4@...>
Date: Mon Oct 12, 2009 10:25 pm
Subject: Reed Rollo

racerbob4

I was at Summit Point this past weekend and Harley Holt told me Reed was racing a Spec Miata, car number 54. Harley and I spent a few minutes talking with Reed who is now almost 74 years old and getting actively back into racing. He picked a tough group to run with as the Miata guys consider their cars to be expendable.

I also ran into other Marlboro Alumni..... Ernie Stalder FV, Harley of course who was there with his nephew who was also racing, Josh Cockey long time flagger from Marlboro days to the present, Bob Roose, same as Josh only he has always worked grid, Jim Harrison who was helping in registration and not racing that weekend, and ex steward Larry Brinkman.

My son was driving a Spec Miata to see how much fun they were and to get another race in before the local season ends. He worked his butt off to finish 6th in the Sunday race out of a large field. He was happy just to get into the top ten as all the guys up front have years of time in their cars.

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#1927

From: Robert Hines <racerbob4@...>
Date: Wed Oct 14, 2009 4:50 pm
Subject: Larry Brinkman

racerbob4

I also bumped into Larry Brinkman who worked at Marlboro and Summit Point. He doesnt have an email or use a computer so his phone number is 540.635.8573 which I am forwarding with his permission. He currently lives in Front Royal.

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#1928

From: "mgamike" <dohc59@...>
Date: Tue Oct 20, 2009 3:36 pm
Subject: 1955 Marlboro MG Races

mgamike

Does anyone out there possibly have this program that they can copy or scan for
me?

Thanks, Michael

#1929

From: Stephen Lloyd <slloydmarlboro@...>
Date: Tue Oct 20, 2009 4:47 pm
Subject: Re: 1955 Marlboro MG Races

slloydmarlboro

Michael,

While the DC Region doesn't have the program from that event, I may be able to copy the Straightpipe report. Was this the first race in May of 1955, or a later '55 event? As far as I know, most of the Region's earliest races included an all-MG race at each meeting. As you probably know, that continued into the early 1960s.

Steve

--- On Tue, 10/20/09, mgamike <dohc59@...> wrote:

From: mgamike <dohc59@...>
Subject: [Marlboro_Raceway] 1955 Marlboro MG Races
To: Marlboro_Raceway@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, October 20, 2009, 11:36 AM

Does anyone out there possibly have this program that they can copy or scan for me?

Thanks, Michael

#1930

From: "mgamike" <dohc59@...>
Date: Wed Oct 21, 2009 1:58 pm
Subject: Re: 1955 Marlboro MG Races

mgamike

Hi Steve,

The one I'm looking for is the October 1955 race.  I put a two page article on
the race from SCI in the photos section of the website a long while back.  Any
coverage you have from Straightpipe would be greatly appreciated expecially if
it has a nice results listing.  If anyone else out there has the program, please
let me know!

Regards, Michael

--- In Marlboro_Raceway@yahoogroups.com, Stephen Lloyd <slloydmarlboro@...>
wrote:
>
> Michael,
> While the DC Region doesn't have the program from that event, I may be able to
copy the Straightpipe report. Was this the first race in May of 1955, or a later
'55 event? As far as I know, most of the Region's earliest races included an
all-MG race at each meeting. As you probably know, that continued into the early
1960s.
> Steve

#1931

From: scshmoo@...
Date: Thu Oct 22, 2009 7:36 pm
Subject: Re: Lockheed Connie heritage - OT

gupycub

Aloha Bob,

Is this the 1049 in the hangar at the old MKC? I toured the hangar in January
2007 and the Constellation was nearly finished at that time. I was able to enter
the cabin and cockpit which remain as they were when it was in service. They
also have a DC3 and a couple of other ex TWA planes that former A&P TWA
employees were working on.

Flying on a Connie at night was always exciting as the exhaust flames from the
R3350s flowed back over the wing and it looked like the wings were on fire.

David
Kauai, Hawaii

Bob wrote:

> On another set of groups, we got into the Lockheed Constellation history. Many
> of you recall when Connies were the queens of the skies, winging non-stop
> across the country out of National. Then just a few years later, they got
> consigned to plebeian duties on the Eastern Shuttle. Just thought a lot of you
> would enjoy this bit of lore and trivia.
>
> We have a flying Connie here in KC, quite appropriate as Howard Hughes
> micro-managed the development of the airplane for his TWA use. One of the last
> things their maintenance people did was lovingly repaint the bird in its last
> TWA colors. They make very little of the high octane 145 octane gas the
> engines need, and it's more expensive than racing gas, so when they fly, they
> have to use affordable low octane and really back off on speed and power
> settings. Can't carry passengers any more as the lawyers have made insurance
> so pricey.
> http://ima
>
es.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.conniesurvivors.com/pictures/N6937C-Jun00\
-1a.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.conniesurvivors.com/1-twa_75th_anniversary.htm&usg=\
__ZAVBzoxWCaPXTC4JhQNBXHEJhnk=&h=535&w=800&sz=71&hl=en&start=21&tbnid=t0peNGcTV_\
_YkM:&tbnh=96&tbnw=143&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dkansas%2Bcity%2Bconnie%26gbv%3D2%26hl%\
3Den%26sa%3DG
>
> Gotta wend through the thread, and hope you can make sense of it.
>
> Cheers, Bob
> ----------------------
> Glad someone else got the chance to experience the Connie shuttles.
>
> fyi, Bob Welch who was very quick and competitive in his own Brabham BT-29 FB,
> and never came to grips with production cars for Group 44, was an Eastern
> Captain on that shuttle. Mostly in the Electra though. Lanky was a mechanic on
> the Presidential Connie in its day.
>
> I always felt that the Connie was the true, sleek clipper ship of the period
> when long range airliners clearly deserved the LINER part of their name. Its
> competition, the Douglas DC-7C (tried to be called the "Seven Seas" by the
> airlines) and the B-29 derived B377 Stratocruiser, (Pan Am often named them
> after their famed trans oceanic pre-war flying boats) were more like the
> present ponderous cruse ships while the Connies always reminded me of the
> sleek Cutty Sark big masted clipper ships.
>
> To meander into literature, Ernest K. Gann loved fine planes and fine ships,
> and wrote two of the best books, made into good movies. Twilight for the Gods
> was about a fine sailing vessel plying the Pacific when steam had long taken
> over, and High and the Mighty also deals with an old hand fighting the odds,
> this time in a crippled trans Pacific airliner. Good to re-read.
>
> And for a bit more on moving planes on rails.
> http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http:/
>
faculty.tamu-commerce.edu/jdavis/railroad/image/C1L2-737-900.jpg&imgrefurl=http:\
//faculty.tamu-commerce.edu/jdavis/railroad/boeing.htm&usg=__cXe6ad5DF9gCCrbt8Sk\
2Y2plMkc=&h=481&w=600&sz=146&hl=en&start=9&um=1&tbnid=q6dr8eZxL4UIoM:&tbnh=108&t\
bnw=135&prev=/images%3Fq%3D737%2Btrain%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG%26um%3D1
>
> Cheers, Bob
>
> Russ Noblett wrote:
>
>> Great info Bob�thanks!!!I have fond memories of being a passenger several
>> times in the middle 60�s on the LGA�DCA Connie Shuttle.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> Subject: Re: [ATR Ltd.]Sic tempus gloria, Connie [6 Attachments]
>>
>> I first flew in a TWA 1149 Super G Connie from LA to NYC just before
>> Thanksgiving, '58 and it was their flagship service, with the cutest stews,
>> good meals, and a lace doily on the head rests. One class, high class in all
>> the plane.
>>
>> Jets were coming in, and TWA had been slow in ordering them. I recall it as
>> a non-stop, 7 hour flight. Transferred to a commuter airline Convair, and
>> flew up to Poughkeepsie. Near there I picked up a Funk, an 85 hp two seater
>> that an airline pilot friend had bought, and flew it back to San Diego ...
>> slow and low against the COLD winds. It took four days of dawn to dusk
>> flying in an unheated airplane, eating tiny airport flight shack machine
>> stale sandwiches, crackers and thermos soup and coffee, huddled in a
>> sleeping bag on line shack couches. Quite a difference from my way out.
>>
>> Later flew Connies a few times, returning from San Diego to San Antonio when
>> I was a high school kid delivering cars for another friend. Were used then
>> by Trans Texas, Capitol and Braniff IIRC as late afternoon Sunday
>> businessman's flights.
>>
>> Just a few years later in the late 60s, Eastern used now tired Connies along
>> with Electras (also Lockheeds) for their DC to NYC shuttles. Just like a
>> bus, with terminals at both ends; National and La Guardia; people stood in
>> line; filled a plane; flew about an hour; filed out at the other end.
>>
>> They got replaced by then aging smaller NYAir DC-9-10s and 20s, spiffed up
>> with an apple logo on the tail, then Trump's $49 airlines, serving coffee,
>> bagels, apple juice and a shiny red apple!
>>
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://michaelmanning.tv/blog/uploaded_
>>
images/2071679033_16d007b29b-759651.jpg&imgrefurl=http://michaelmanning.tv/blog/
>>
2008/10/sunset-for-east-coast-shuttle.html&usg=__e2u9iCnhMyAn8ATvhNORKLr7X7M=&h=\
333&w=500&sz=34&hl=en&start=2&tbnid=a7AbkwFiuDnIe
>> M:&tbnh=87&tbnw=130&prev=/images%3Fq%3Deastern%2Bshuttle%26gbv%3D2%26hl%3Den%
>> 26sa%3DG
>>
>> kitbru@... wrote:
>>
>> > Thank goodness we have our own. I never flew on one but Kittie did in 1959
>> > to New York on her way to Germany for an AFS summer program. I wish they
>> > could afford to fly it more often, it is a beautiful airplane. Maybe why
>> > Howard liked it so much.
>> > Bruce
>> > In a message dated 9/10/2009 5:51:13 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
>> > Lotusman@... writes:
>> >
>> >      Very cool.  Thanks.  What a great sequence of photos.
>> >      John
>> >
>> >           ----- Original Message -----
>> >           From: Bob
>> >           To: atr
>> >           Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 12:48 PM
>> >           Subject: [ATR Ltd.] Fw: Arrival of the Connie
>> >           Craig wrote:
>> >
>> >                Interesting journey for a beautiful bird.
>> >                ----- Original Message -----
>> >
>> >                          Subject: Arrival of the
>> >                          Connie
>> >
>> >
                                    The Connie is
                                    Coming!!!  It
                                    will arrive
                                    tomorrow,
                                    Friday, Sept 4
                                    around 10:30 am
                                    and will be on
                                    view all day!
                                    To check on the
                                    Connie�s
                                    progress across
                                    America go to
                                    this website by
                                    Bob
                                    Bogashhttp://www.rbogash.
                                    com/Connie/connie-RME-
                                    SEA.html

>> >
>> >                     ------------------------------------
>> >
>> It's curious that a once high flying, flagship of the skies, takes a
>> twilight journey bumping over rural roads in America's pastoral western farm
>> lands. Especially since much larger sections of Boeing jets are built in
>> pieces all over the country, and transported by rail, also to Washington,
>> for final assembly.
>>
>> Cheers, Bob
>>
>
>

#1932

From: scshmoo@...
Date: Thu Oct 22, 2009 7:44 pm
Subject: Re: Lockheed Connie heritage - OT

gupycub

Aloha Bob,

In April 1944 Howard Hughes and Jack Frye flew the prototype Model 49 from
Burbank to National. They set a transcontinental record time. We were living in
Fairlington because my father was stationed at Gravely Point. I remember being
taken out to watch as the Constellation circled DC before landing.

David
Kauai, Hawaii

Bob wrote:

> On another set of groups, we got into the Lockheed Constellation history. Many
> of you recall when Connies were the queens of the skies, winging non-stop
> across the country out of National. Then just a few years later, they got
> consigned to plebeian duties on the Eastern Shuttle. Just thought a lot of you
> would enjoy this bit of lore and trivia.
>
> We have a flying Connie here in KC, quite appropriate as Howard Hughes
> micro-managed the development of the airplane for his TWA use. One of the last
> things their maintenance people did was lovingly repaint the bird in its last
> TWA colors. They make very little of the high octane 145 octane gas the
> engines need, and it's more expensive than racing gas, so when they fly, they
> have to use affordable low octane and really back off on speed and power
> settings. Can't carry passengers any more as the lawyers have made insurance
> so pricey.
> http://ima
>
es.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.conniesurvivors.com/pictures/N6937C-Jun00\
-1a.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.conniesurvivors.com/1-twa_75th_anniversary.htm&usg=\
__ZAVBzoxWCaPXTC4JhQNBXHEJhnk=&h=535&w=800&sz=71&hl=en&start=21&tbnid=t0peNGcTV_\
_YkM:&tbnh=96&tbnw=143&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dkansas%2Bcity%2Bconnie%26gbv%3D2%26hl%\
3Den%26sa%3DG
>
> Gotta wend through the thread, and hope you can make sense of it.
>
> Cheers, Bob
> ----------------------
> Glad someone else got the chance to experience the Connie shuttles.
>
> fyi, Bob Welch who was very quick and competitive in his own Brabham BT-29 FB,
> and never came to grips with production cars for Group 44, was an Eastern
> Captain on that shuttle. Mostly in the Electra though. Lanky was a mechanic on
> the Presidential Connie in its day.
>
> I always felt that the Connie was the true, sleek clipper ship of the period
> when long range airliners clearly deserved the LINER part of their name. Its
> competition, the Douglas DC-7C (tried to be called the "Seven Seas" by the
> airlines) and the B-29 derived B377 Stratocruiser, (Pan Am often named them
> after their famed trans oceanic pre-war flying boats) were more like the
> present ponderous cruse ships while the Connies always reminded me of the
> sleek Cutty Sark big masted clipper ships.
>
> To meander into literature, Ernest K. Gann loved fine planes and fine ships,
> and wrote two of the best books, made into good movies. Twilight for the Gods
> was about a fine sailing vessel plying the Pacific when steam had long taken
> over, and High and the Mighty also deals with an old hand fighting the odds,
> this time in a crippled trans Pacific airliner. Good to re-read.
>
> And for a bit more on moving planes on rails.
> http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http:/
>
faculty.tamu-commerce.edu/jdavis/railroad/image/C1L2-737-900.jpg&imgrefurl=http:\
//faculty.tamu-commerce.edu/jdavis/railroad/boeing.htm&usg=__cXe6ad5DF9gCCrbt8Sk\
2Y2plMkc=&h=481&w=600&sz=146&hl=en&start=9&um=1&tbnid=q6dr8eZxL4UIoM:&tbnh=108&t\
bnw=135&prev=/images%3Fq%3D737%2Btrain%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG%26um%3D1
>
> Cheers, Bob
>
> Russ Noblett wrote:
>
>> Great info Bob�thanks!!!I have fond memories of being a passenger several
>> times in the middle 60�s on the LGA�DCA Connie Shuttle.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> Subject: Re: [ATR Ltd.]Sic tempus gloria, Connie [6 Attachments]
>>
>> I first flew in a TWA 1149 Super G Connie from LA to NYC just before
>> Thanksgiving, '58 and it was their flagship service, with the cutest stews,
>> good meals, and a lace doily on the head rests. One class, high class in all
>> the plane.
>>
>> Jets were coming in, and TWA had been slow in ordering them. I recall it as
>> a non-stop, 7 hour flight. Transferred to a commuter airline Convair, and
>> flew up to Poughkeepsie. Near there I picked up a Funk, an 85 hp two seater
>> that an airline pilot friend had bought, and flew it back to San Diego ...
>> slow and low against the COLD winds. It took four days of dawn to dusk
>> flying in an unheated airplane, eating tiny airport flight shack machine
>> stale sandwiches, crackers and thermos soup and coffee, huddled in a
>> sleeping bag on line shack couches. Quite a difference from my way out.
>>
>> Later flew Connies a few times, returning from San Diego to San Antonio when
>> I was a high school kid delivering cars for another friend. Were used then
>> by Trans Texas, Capitol and Braniff IIRC as late afternoon Sunday
>> businessman's flights.
>>
>> Just a few years later in the late 60s, Eastern used now tired Connies along
>> with Electras (also Lockheeds) for their DC to NYC shuttles. Just like a
>> bus, with terminals at both ends; National and La Guardia; people stood in
>> line; filled a plane; flew about an hour; filed out at the other end.
>>
>> They got replaced by then aging smaller NYAir DC-9-10s and 20s, spiffed up
>> with an apple logo on the tail, then Trump's $49 airlines, serving coffee,
>> bagels, apple juice and a shiny red apple!
>>
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://michaelmanning.tv/blog/uploaded_
>>
images/2071679033_16d007b29b-759651.jpg&imgrefurl=http://michaelmanning.tv/blog/
>>
2008/10/sunset-for-east-coast-shuttle.html&usg=__e2u9iCnhMyAn8ATvhNORKLr7X7M=&h=\
333&w=500&sz=34&hl=en&start=2&tbnid=a7AbkwFiuDnIe
>> M:&tbnh=87&tbnw=130&prev=/images%3Fq%3Deastern%2Bshuttle%26gbv%3D2%26hl%3Den%
>> 26sa%3DG
>>
>> kitbru@... wrote:
>>
>> > Thank goodness we have our own. I never flew on one but Kittie did in 1959
>> > to New York on her way to Germany for an AFS summer program. I wish they
>> > could afford to fly it more often, it is a beautiful airplane. Maybe why
>> > Howard liked it so much.
>> > Bruce
>> > In a message dated 9/10/2009 5:51:13 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
>> > Lotusman@... writes:
>> >
>> >      Very cool.  Thanks.  What a great sequence of photos.
>> >      John
>> >
>> >           ----- Original Message -----
>> >           From: Bob
>> >           To: atr
>> >           Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 12:48 PM
>> >           Subject: [ATR Ltd.] Fw: Arrival of the Connie
>> >           Craig wrote:
>> >
>> >                Interesting journey for a beautiful bird.
>> >                ----- Original Message -----
>> >
>> >                          Subject: Arrival of the
>> >                          Connie
>> >
>> >
                                    The Connie is
                                    Coming!!!  It
                                    will arrive
                                    tomorrow,
                                    Friday, Sept 4
                                    around 10:30 am
                                    and will be on
                                    view all day!
                                    To check on the
                                    Connie�s
                                    progress across
                                    America go to
                                    this website by
                                    Bob
                                    Bogashhttp://www.rbogash.
                                    com/Connie/connie-RME-
                                    SEA.html

>> >
>> >                     ------------------------------------
>> >
>> It's curious that a once high flying, flagship of the skies, takes a
>> twilight journey bumping over rural roads in America's pastoral western farm
>> lands. Especially since much larger sections of Boeing jets are built in
>> pieces all over the country, and transported by rail, also to Washington,
>> for final assembly.
>>
>> Cheers, Bob
>>
>
>

#1933

From: Bob <bstorck@...>
Date: Thu Oct 22, 2009 7:57 pm
Subject: Re: Lockheed Connie heritage - OT

fannum

Still have them and are planning on adding a L1011. So far, all old TWA
planes. I hope they can find a Ford Trimotor that they started with as TAT.

Cheers, Bob

scshmoo@... wrote:
> Aloha Bob,
>
> Is this the 1049 in the hangar at the old MKC? I toured the hangar in January
> 2007 and the Constellation was nearly finished at that time. I was able to
enter
> the cabin and cockpit which remain as they were when it was in service. They
> also have a DC3 and a couple of other ex TWA planes that former A&P TWA
> employees were working on.
>
> Flying on a Connie at night was always exciting as the exhaust flames from the
> R3350s flowed back over the wing and it looked like the wings were on fire.
>
> David
> Kauai, Hawaii
>
> Bob wrote:
>
>
>> On another set of groups, we got into the Lockheed Constellation history.
Many
>> of you recall when Connies were the queens of the skies, winging non-stop
>> across the country out of National. Then just a few years later, they got
>> consigned to plebeian duties on the Eastern Shuttle. Just thought a lot of
you
>> would enjoy this bit of lore and trivia.
>>
>> We have a flying Connie here in KC, quite appropriate as Howard Hughes
>> micro-managed the development of the airplane for his TWA use. One of the
last
>> things their maintenance people did was lovingly repaint the bird in its last
>> TWA colors. They make very little of the high octane 145 octane gas the
>> engines need, and it's more expensive than racing gas, so when they fly, they
>> have to use affordable low octane and really back off on speed and power
>> settings. Can't carry passengers any more as the lawyers have made insurance
>> so pricey.
>> http://ima
>>
es.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.conniesurvivors.com/pictures/N6937C-Jun00\
-1a.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.conniesurvivors.com/1-twa_75th_anniversary.htm&usg=\
__ZAVBzoxWCaPXTC4JhQNBXHEJhnk=&h=535&w=800&sz=71&hl=en&start=21&tbnid=t0peNGcTV_\
_YkM:&tbnh=96&tbnw=143&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dkansas%2Bcity%2Bconnie%26gbv%3D2%26hl%\
3Den%26sa%3DG
>>
>> Gotta wend through the thread, and hope you can make sense of it.
>>
>> Cheers, Bob
>> ----------------------
>> Glad someone else got the chance to experience the Connie shuttles.
>>
>> fyi, Bob Welch who was very quick and competitive in his own Brabham BT-29
FB,
>> and never came to grips with production cars for Group 44, was an Eastern
>> Captain on that shuttle. Mostly in the Electra though. Lanky was a mechanic
on
>> the Presidential Connie in its day.
>>
>> I always felt that the Connie was the true, sleek clipper ship of the period
>> when long range airliners clearly deserved the LINER part of their name. Its
>> competition, the Douglas DC-7C (tried to be called the "Seven Seas" by the
>> airlines) and the B-29 derived B377 Stratocruiser, (Pan Am often named them
>> after their famed trans oceanic pre-war flying boats) were more like the
>> present ponderous cruse ships while the Connies always reminded me of the
>> sleek Cutty Sark big masted clipper ships.
>>
>> To meander into literature, Ernest K. Gann loved fine planes and fine ships,
>> and wrote two of the best books, made into good movies. Twilight for the Gods
>> was about a fine sailing vessel plying the Pacific when steam had long taken
>> over, and High and the Mighty also deals with an old hand fighting the odds,
>> this time in a crippled trans Pacific airliner. Good to re-read.
>>
>> And for a bit more on moving planes on rails.
>> http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http:/
>>
faculty.tamu-commerce.edu/jdavis/railroad/image/C1L2-737-900.jpg&imgrefurl=http:\
//faculty.tamu-commerce.edu/jdavis/railroad/boeing.htm&usg=__cXe6ad5DF9gCCrbt8Sk\
2Y2plMkc=&h=481&w=600&sz=146&hl=en&start=9&um=1&tbnid=q6dr8eZxL4UIoM:&tbnh=108&t\
bnw=135&prev=/images%3Fq%3D737%2Btrain%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG%26um%3D1
>>
>> Cheers, Bob
>>
>> Russ Noblett wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Great info Bob�thanks!!!I have fond memories of being a passenger several
>>> times in the middle 60�s on the LGA�DCA Connie Shuttle.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> Subject: Re: [ATR Ltd.]Sic tempus gloria, Connie [6 Attachments]
>>>
>>> I first flew in a TWA 1149 Super G Connie from LA to NYC just before
>>> Thanksgiving, '58 and it was their flagship service, with the cutest stews,
>>> good meals, and a lace doily on the head rests. One class, high class in all
>>> the plane.
>>>
>>> Jets were coming in, and TWA had been slow in ordering them. I recall it as
>>> a non-stop, 7 hour flight. Transferred to a commuter airline Convair, and
>>> flew up to Poughkeepsie. Near there I picked up a Funk, an 85 hp two seater
>>> that an airline pilot friend had bought, and flew it back to San Diego ...
>>> slow and low against the COLD winds. It took four days of dawn to dusk
>>> flying in an unheated airplane, eating tiny airport flight shack machine
>>> stale sandwiches, crackers and thermos soup and coffee, huddled in a
>>> sleeping bag on line shack couches. Quite a difference from my way out.
>>>
>>> Later flew Connies a few times, returning from San Diego to San Antonio when
>>> I was a high school kid delivering cars for another friend. Were used then
>>> by Trans Texas, Capitol and Braniff IIRC as late afternoon Sunday
>>> businessman's flights.
>>>
>>> Just a few years later in the late 60s, Eastern used now tired Connies along
>>> with Electras (also Lockheeds) for their DC to NYC shuttles. Just like a
>>> bus, with terminals at both ends; National and La Guardia; people stood in
>>> line; filled a plane; flew about an hour; filed out at the other end.
>>>
>>> They got replaced by then aging smaller NYAir DC-9-10s and 20s, spiffed up
>>> with an apple logo on the tail, then Trump's $49 airlines, serving coffee,
>>> bagels, apple juice and a shiny red apple!
>>>
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://michaelmanning.tv/blog/uploaded_
>>>
images/2071679033_16d007b29b-759651.jpg&imgrefurl=http://michaelmanning.tv/blog/
>>>
2008/10/sunset-for-east-coast-shuttle.html&usg=__e2u9iCnhMyAn8ATvhNORKLr7X7M=&h=\
333&w=500&sz=34&hl=en&start=2&tbnid=a7AbkwFiuDnIe
>>>
M:&tbnh=87&tbnw=130&prev=/images%3Fq%3Deastern%2Bshuttle%26gbv%3D2%26hl%3Den%
>>> 26sa%3DG
>>>
>>> kitbru@... wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Thank goodness we have our own. I never flew on one but Kittie did in 1959
>>>> to New York on her way to Germany for an AFS summer program. I wish they
>>>> could afford to fly it more often, it is a beautiful airplane. Maybe why
>>>> Howard liked it so much.
>>>> Bruce
>>>> In a message dated 9/10/2009 5:51:13 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
>>>> Lotusman@... writes:
>>>>
>>>>      Very cool.  Thanks.  What a great sequence of photos.
>>>>      John
>>>>
>>>>           ----- Original Message -----
>>>>           From: Bob
>>>>           To: atr
>>>>           Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 12:48 PM
>>>>           Subject: [ATR Ltd.] Fw: Arrival of the Connie
>>>>           Craig wrote:
>>>>
>>>>                Interesting journey for a beautiful bird.
>>>>                ----- Original Message -----
>>>>
>>>>                          Subject: Arrival of the
>>>>                          Connie
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>                                    The Connie is
>                                    Coming!!!  It
>                                    will arrive
>                                    tomorrow,
>                                    Friday, Sept 4
>                                    around 10:30 am
>                                    and will be on
>                                    view all day!
>                                    To check on the
>                                    Connie�s
>                                    progress across
>                                    America go to
>                                    this website by
>                                    Bob
>                                    Bogashhttp://www.rbogash.
>                                    com/Connie/connie-RME-
>                                    SEA.html
>
>
>>>>                     ------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>>
>>> It's curious that a once high flying, flagship of the skies, takes a
>>> twilight journey bumping over rural roads in America's pastoral western farm
>>> lands. Especially since much larger sections of Boeing jets are built in
>>> pieces all over the country, and transported by rail, also to Washington,
>>> for final assembly.
>>>
>>> Cheers, Bob
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

#1934

From: Bob <bstorck@...>
Date: Thu Oct 22, 2009 7:59 pm
Subject: Re: Lockheed Connie heritage /Fairlington- OT

fannum

Farlington has almost been forgotten. LOTs of racers lived there, but as
I95 grows, it keeps disappearing.

scshmoo@... wrote:
> Aloha Bob,
>
> In April 1944 Howard Hughes and Jack Frye flew the prototype Model 49 from
> Burbank to National. They set a transcontinental record time. We were living
in
> Fairlington because my father was stationed at Gravely Point. I remember being
> taken out to watch as the Constellation circled DC before landing.
>

#1935

From: scshmoo@...
Date: Thu Oct 22, 2009 9:03 pm
Subject: Re: 1955 Marlboro MG Races

gupycub

Hi Steve,

I have the first race at Marlboro as

22 May 1955

then

10 July 1955

then

30 Oct 1955 which was an all MG affair

regards,

David

Kauai, Hawaii

Stephen Lloyd wrote:

> Michael,While the DC Region doesn't have the program from that event, I may be
   able to copy the Straightpipe report. Was this the first race in May of 1955,
   or a later '55 event? As far as I know, most of the Region's earliest races
   included an all-MG race at each meeting. As you probably know, that continued
   into the early 1960s.Steve

   --- On Tue, 10/20/09, mgamike <dohc59@...> wrote:


        From: mgamike <dohc59@...>
        Subject: [Marlboro_Raceway] 1955 Marlboro MG Races
        To: Marlboro_Raceway@yahoogroups.com
        Date: Tuesday, October 20, 2009, 11:36 AM

        Does anyone out there possibly have this program that they can copy
        or scan for me?

        Thanks, Michael


>
>
>

#1936

From: scshmoo@...
Date: Thu Oct 22, 2009 9:09 pm
Subject: Re: Lockheed Connie heritage - OT

gupycub

Hi Bob,

I saw a TAT Tri Motor in barn California a few years ago. It was not air worthy.
Bill Harrah made a Tri Motor air worthy and it was used in Grand Canyon tours
for some time. There is another flyable Tri Motor in LA.

regards,

david
Kauai, Hawaii

Bob wrote:

> Still have them and are planning on adding a L1011. So far, all old TWA
> planes. I hope they can find a Ford Trimotor that they started with as TAT.
>
> Cheers, Bob
>
> scshmoo@... wrote:
> > Aloha Bob,
> >
> > Is this the 1049 in the hangar at the old MKC? I toured the hangar in
January
> > 2007 and the Constellation was nearly finished at that time. I was able to
enter
> > the cabin and cockpit which remain as they were when it was in service. They
> > also have a DC3 and a couple of other ex TWA planes that former A&P TWA
> > employees were working on.
> >
> > Flying on a Connie at night was always exciting as the exhaust flames from
the
> > R3350s flowed back over the wing and it looked like the wings were on fire.
> >
> > David
> > Kauai, Hawaii
> >
> > Bob wrote:
> >
> >
> >> On another set of groups, we got into the Lockheed Constellation history.
Many
> >> of you recall when Connies were the queens of the skies, winging non-stop
> >> across the country out of National. Then just a few years later, they got
> >> consigned to plebeian duties on the Eastern Shuttle. Just thought a lot of
you
> >> would enjoy this bit of lore and trivia.
> >>
> >> We have a flying Connie here in KC, quite appropriate as Howard Hughes
> >> micro-managed the development of the airplane for his TWA use. One of the
last
> >> things their maintenance people did was lovingly repaint the bird in its
last
> >> TWA colors. They make very little of the high octane 145 octane gas the
> >> engines need, and it's more expensive than racing gas, so when they fly,
they
> >> have to use affordable low octane and really back off on speed and power
> >> settings. Can't carry passengers any more as the lawyers have made
insurance
> >> so pricey.
> >> http://ima
> >>
es.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.conniesurvivors.com/pictures/N6937C-Jun00\
-1a.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.conniesurvivors.com/1-twa_75th_anniversary.htm&usg=\
__ZAVBzoxWCaPXTC4JhQNBXHEJhnk=&h=535&w=800&sz=71&hl=en&start=21&tbnid=t0peNGcTV_\
_YkM:&tbnh=96&tbnw=143&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dkansas%2Bcity%2Bconnie%26gbv>>
> >> Gotta wend through the thread, and hope you can make sense of it.
> >>
> >> Cheers, Bob
> >> ----------------------
> >> Glad someone else got the chance to experience the Connie shuttles.
> >>
> >> fyi, Bob Welch who was very quick and competitive in his own Brabham BT-29
FB,
> >> and never came to grips with production cars for Group 44, was an Eastern
> >> Captain on that shuttle. Mostly in the Electra though. Lanky was a mechanic
on
> >> the Presidential Connie in its day.
> >>
> >> I always felt that the Connie was the true, sleek clipper ship of the
period
> >> when long range airliners clearly deserved the LINER part of their name.
Its
> >> competition, the Douglas DC-7C (tried to be called the "Seven Seas" by the
> >> airlines) and the B-29 derived B377 Stratocruiser, (Pan Am often named them
> >> after their famed trans oceanic pre-war flying boats) were more like the
> >> present ponderous cruse ships while the Connies always reminded me of the
> >> sleek Cutty Sark big masted clipper ships.
> >>
> >> To meander into literature, Ernest K. Gann loved fine planes and fine
ships,
> >> and wrote two of the best books, made into good movies. Twilight for the
Gods
> >> was about a fine sailing vessel plying the Pacific when steam had long
taken
> >> over, and High and the Mighty also deals with an old hand fighting the
odds,
> >> this time in a crippled trans Pacific airliner. Good to re-read.
> >>
> >> And for a bit more on moving planes on rails.
> >> http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http:/
> >>
faculty.tamu-commerce.edu/jdavis/railroad/image/C1L2-737-900.jpg&imgrefurl=http:\
//faculty.tamu-commerce.edu/jdavis/railroad/boeing.htm&usg=__cXe6ad5DF9gCCrbt8Sk\
2Y2plMkc=&h=481&w=600&sz=146&hl=en&start=9&um=1&tbnid=q6dr8eZxL4UIoM:&tbnh=108&t\
bnw=135&prev=/images%3Fq%3D737%2Btrain%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG%26um%3D1
> >>
> >> Cheers, Bob
> >>
> >> Russ Noblett wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> Great info Bob�thanks!!!I have fond memories of being a passenger several
> >>> times in the middle 60�s on the LGA�DCA Connie Shuttle.
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> Subject: Re: [ATR Ltd.]Sic tempus gloria, Connie [6 Attachments]
> >>>
> >>> I first flew in a TWA 1149 Super G Connie from LA to NYC just before
> >>> Thanksgiving, '58 and it was their flagship service, with the cutest
stews,
> >>> good meals, and a lace doily on the head rests. One class, high class in
all
> >>> the plane.
> >>>
> >>> Jets were coming in, and TWA had been slow in ordering them. I recall it
as
> >>> a non-stop, 7 hour flight. Transferred to a commuter airline Convair, and
> >>> flew up to Poughkeepsie. Near there I picked up a Funk, an 85 hp two
seater
> >>> that an airline pilot friend had bought, and flew it back to San Diego ...
> >>> slow and low against the COLD winds. It took four days of dawn to dusk
> >>> flying in an unheated airplane, eating tiny airport flight shack machine
> >>> stale sandwiches, crackers and thermos soup and coffee, huddled in a
> >>> sleeping bag on line shack couches. Quite a difference from my way out.
> >>>
> >>> Later flew Connies a few times, returning from San Diego to San Antonio
when
> >>> I was a high school kid delivering cars for another friend. Were used then
> >>> by Trans Texas, Capitol and Braniff IIRC as late afternoon Sunday
> >>> businessman's flights.
> >>>
> >>> Just a few years later in the late 60s, Eastern used now tired Connies
along
> >>> with Electras (also Lockheeds) for their DC to NYC shuttles. Just like a
> >>> bus, with terminals at both ends; National and La Guardia; people stood in
> >>> line; filled a plane; flew about an hour; filed out at the other end.
> >>>
> >>> They got replaced by then aging smaller NYAir DC-9-10s and 20s, spiffed up
> >>> with an apple logo on the tail, then Trump's $49 airlines, serving coffee,
> >>> bagels, apple juice and a shiny red apple!
> >>>
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://michaelmanning.tv/blog/uploaded_
> >>>
images/2071679033_16d007b29b-759651.jpg&imgrefurl=http://michaelmanning.tv/blog/
> >>>
2008/10/sunset-for-east-coast-shuttle.html&usg=__e2u9iCnhMyAn8ATvhNORKLr7X7M=&h=\
333&w=500&sz=34&hl=en&start=2&tbnid=a7AbkwFiuDnIe
> >>>
M:&tbnh=87&tbnw=130&prev=/images%3Fq%3Deastern%2Bshuttle%26gbv%3D2%26hl%3Den%
> >>> 26sa%3DG
> >>>
> >>> kitbru@... wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Thank goodness we have our own. I never flew on one but Kittie did in
1959
> >>>> to New York on her way to Germany for an AFS summer program. I wish they
> >>>> could afford to fly it more often, it is a beautiful airplane. Maybe why
> >>>> Howard liked it so much.
> >>>> Bruce
> >>>> In a message dated 9/10/2009 5:51:13 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> >>>> Lotusman@... writes:
> >>>>
> >>>>      Very cool.  Thanks.  What a great sequence of photos.
> >>>>      John
> >>>>
> >>>>           ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>           From: Bob
> >>>>           To: atr
> >>>>           Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 12:48 PM
> >>>>           Subject: [ATR Ltd.] Fw: Arrival of the Connie
> >>>>           Craig wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>                Interesting journey for a beautiful bird.
> >>>>                ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>
> >>>>                          Subject: Arrival of the
> >>>>                          Connie
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >                                    The Connie is
> >                                    Coming!!!  It
> >                                    will arrive
> >                                    tomorrow,
> >                                    Friday, Sept 4
> >                                    around 10:30 am
> >                                    and will be on
> >                                    view all day!
> >                                    To check on the
> >                                    Connie�s
> >                                    progress across
> >                                    America go to
> >                                    this website by
> >                                    Bob
> >                                    Bogashhttp://www.rbogash.
> >                                    com/Connie/connie-RME-
> >                                    SEA.html
> >
> >
> >>>>                     ------------------------------------
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> It's curious that a once high flying, flagship of the skies, takes a
> >>> twilight journey bumping over rural roads in America's pastoral western
farm
> >>> lands. Especially since much larger sections of Boeing jets are built in
> >>> pieces all over the country, and transported by rail, also to Washington,
> >>> for final assembly.
> >>>
> >>> Cheers, Bob
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
> >
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

#1937

From: scshmoo@...
Date: Thu Oct 22, 2009 9:11 pm
Subject: Re: Lockheed Connie heritage /Fairlington- OT

gupycub

Aloha Bob,

And Gravely Point is now Crystal City and all the old temporary US Army
buildings
are torn down.

Regards,

David

Kauai, Hawaii

Bob wrote:

> Farlington has almost been forgotten. LOTs of racers lived there, but as
> I95 grows, it keeps disappearing.
>
> scshmoo@... wrote:
> > Aloha Bob,
> >
> > In April 1944 Howard Hughes and Jack Frye flew the prototype Model 49 from
> > Burbank to National. They set a transcontinental record time. We were living
in
> > Fairlington because my father was stationed at Gravely Point. I remember
being
> > taken out to watch as the Constellation circled DC before landing.
> >
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

#1938

From: Bob <bstorck@...>
Date: Thu Oct 22, 2009 9:50 pm
Subject: Re: Lockheed Connie heritage /Fairlington- OT

fannum

For that matter, I used to visit the Navy "temporary" buildings along
Constitution Ave on the mall in the 60s, where the Viet Nam memorial is
today. Remarkably, many locals thought they were WWII temporary
buildings. Nope! WWI!

Cheers, Bob
btw - In '67 when I flew an F-4J from Alameda to 'Nam, my first stop was
Barber's Point ... too good a chunk of land along the Hawaiian sea shore
to survive Clinton's developer buddies.

Cheers, Bob

scshmoo@... wrote:
> Aloha Bob,
>
> And Gravely Point is now Crystal City and all the old temporary US Army
buildings
> are torn down.
>
> Regards,
>
> David
>
> Kauai, Hawaii
>
> Bob wrote:
>
>
>> Farlington has almost been forgotten. LOTs of racers lived there, but as
>> I95 grows, it keeps disappearing.
>>
>> scshmoo@... wrote:
>>
>>> Aloha Bob,
>>>
>>> In April 1944 Howard Hughes and Jack Frye flew the prototype Model 49 from
>>> Burbank to National. They set a transcontinental record time. We were living
in
>>> Fairlington because my father was stationed at Gravely Point. I remember
being
>>> taken out to watch as the Constellation circled DC before landing.
>>>
>>>
>> ------------------------------------
>>
>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>

#1939

From: "mgamike" <dohc59@...>
Date: Fri Oct 23, 2009 1:19 pm
Subject: Re: 1955 Marlboro MG Races

mgamike

Definitely the 30th October race is what I'm looking for, program or results
anyone?

regards, Michael


--- In Marlboro_Raceway@yahoogroups.com, scshmoo@... wrote:
>
> Hi Steve,
>
> I have the first race at Marlboro as
>
> 22 May 1955
>
> then
>
> 10 July 1955
>
> then
>
> 30 Oct 1955 which was an all MG affair
>
> regards,
>
> David
>
> Kauai, Hawaii
>

#1940

From: scshmoo@...
Date: Fri Oct 23, 2009 4:23 pm
Subject: Re: Re: 1955 Marlboro MG Races

gupycub

Aloha Michael,

It was an MGCC affair with help from Manhattan Auto.

Regards,

David

Kauai, Hawaii

mgamike wrote:

> Definitely the 30th October race is what I'm looking for, program or results
anyone?
>
> regards, Michael
>
> --- In Marlboro_Raceway@yahoogroups.com, scshmoo@... wrote:
> >
> > Hi Steve,
> >
> > I have the first race at Marlboro as
> >
> > 22 May 1955
> >
> > then
> >
> > 10 July 1955
> >
> > then
> >
> > 30 Oct 1955 which was an all MG affair
> >
> > regards,
> >
> > David
> >
> > Kauai, Hawaii
> >
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

#1941

From: "larryj300" <larryj300@...>
Date: Fri Oct 23, 2009 11:55 pm
Subject: Re: 1955 Marlboro MG Races

larryj300

Mike,
  I don't have a program or complete results, but here is the Washington Post
article from Monday Oct. 31, 1955. Hope this helps.

Larry Jendras Jr.
Sykesville, Md.

BLACK WINS AT MARLBORO
Oct. 30 -- Favorite Duncan Black of Parkton, Md. won the 25 lap Congressional
Cup feature race in the National MG races at the Marlboro Motor Raceway here
this afternoon.
  Driving a Lester-MG, Black took the lead on the first lap as he passed Suzy
Dietrich, Sandusky, Ohio, the only woman driver in the race, on the first turn.
David Ash of Stony Point, N.Y. was second and Dick Thompson of Washington, D.C.
third.
  Two drivers won races for the first time in the Novice divison. Howard Tolley
of Arlington, Va. driving a TD-MK II, won a 10 lap race and Stan Smilow of White
Plains won the second 10 lap grind.
  In the special ladies race, Mrs. Dietrich won the six lap run. Second was Mrs.
Fred Windridge of Arlington and third was Mrs. Nell Baptista of Hyattsville, Md.
  Other winners include: Dr. Louis Winkler, Bethlehem, Pa. for Formula 3 cars;
Duncan Black, Modified; Steve Spitler, Bethesda, Class FC and FD; Frank
Baptista, Hyattsville, Class GA and GB and Lex Dupont, Wilmington, De. Formula
3's.

--- In Marlboro_Raceway@yahoogroups.com, "mgamike" <dohc59@...> wrote:
>
> Definitely the 30th October race is what I'm looking for, program or results
anyone?
>
> regards, Michael
>
>
> --- In Marlboro_Raceway@yahoogroups.com, scshmoo@ wrote:
> >
> > Hi Steve,
> >
> > I have the first race at Marlboro as
> >
> > 22 May 1955
> >
> > then
> >
> > 10 July 1955
> >
> > then
> >
> > 30 Oct 1955 which was an all MG affair
> >
> > regards,
> >
> > David
> >
> > Kauai, Hawaii
> >
>

#1942

From: "Don Greimel" <dgreimel@...>
Date: Sat Oct 24, 2009 8:16 am
Subject: Re: Re: 1955 Marlboro MG Races

dgreimel@...

Names that bring memories :>)

----- Original Message -----
From: "larryj300" <larryj300@...>
To: <Marlboro_Raceway@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 7:55 PM
Subject: [Marlboro_Raceway] Re: 1955 Marlboro MG Races


> Mike,
> I don't have a program or complete results, but here is the Washington
> Post article from Monday Oct. 31, 1955. Hope this helps.
>
> Larry Jendras Jr.
> Sykesville, Md.
>
>
> BLACK WINS AT MARLBORO
> Oct. 30 -- Favorite Duncan Black of Parkton, Md. won the 25 lap
> Congressional Cup feature race in the National MG races at the Marlboro
> Motor Raceway here this afternoon.
> Driving a Lester-MG, Black took the lead on the first lap as he passed
> Suzy Dietrich, Sandusky, Ohio, the only woman driver in the race, on the
> first turn. David Ash of Stony Point, N.Y. was second and Dick Thompson of
> Washington, D.C. third.
> Two drivers won races for the first time in the Novice divison. Howard
> Tolley of Arlington, Va. driving a TD-MK II, won a 10 lap race and Stan
> Smilow of White Plains won the second 10 lap grind.
> In the special ladies race, Mrs. Dietrich won the six lap run. Second was
> Mrs. Fred Windridge of Arlington and third was Mrs. Nell Baptista of
> Hyattsville, Md.
> Other winners include: Dr. Louis Winkler, Bethlehem, Pa. for Formula 3
> cars; Duncan Black, Modified; Steve Spitler, Bethesda, Class FC and FD;
> Frank Baptista, Hyattsville, Class GA and GB and Lex Dupont, Wilmington,
> De. Formula 3's.
>
>
>
>
> --- In Marlboro_Raceway@yahoogroups.com, "mgamike" <dohc59@...> wrote:
>>
>> Definitely the 30th October race is what I'm looking for, program or
>> results anyone?
>>
>> regards, Michael
>>
>>
>> --- In Marlboro_Raceway@yahoogroups.com, scshmoo@ wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi Steve,
>> >
>> > I have the first race at Marlboro as
>> >
>> > 22 May 1955
>> >
>> > then
>> >
>> > 10 July 1955
>> >
>> > then
>> >
>> > 30 Oct 1955 which was an all MG affair
>> >
>> > regards,
>> >
>> > David
>> >
>> > Kauai, Hawaii
>> >
>>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

#1943

From: "erkelly2" <erkelly2@...>
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 9:50 am
Subject: Charles Wallace and Dick Lord

erkelly2

I am trying to find the dates of death of Charles Wallace and Dick Lord.

The Social Security Death Index has too many names similar to the above to be
definitive.

Purpose: adding them to Motorsport Memorial.

Dick was a good friend and customer at Motor Imports, Ltd., in Rockville.  He
bought my Fairthorpe Electron and ran it is several races.

Charles Wallace was my driving school instructor at Marlboro in 1956-57.

Rick Kelly
erkelly2@...
Oklahoma City

#1944

From: Robert Hines <racerbob4@...>
Date: Tue Nov 10, 2009 2:14 pm
Subject: Re: Charles Wallace and Dick Lord

racerbob4

I can't help you with Dick Lords' date but I know he died at Marlboro in his race car so that had to be before 1969 as that was the last year the track was open for sports car racing.

From: erkelly2 <erkelly2@...>
To: Marlboro_Raceway@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, November 10, 2009 1:50:38 AM
Subject: [Marlboro_Raceway] Charles Wallace and Dick Lord

I am trying to find the dates of death of Charles Wallace and Dick Lord.

The Social Security Death Index has too many names similar to the above to be definitive.

Purpose: adding them to Motorsport Memorial.

Dick was a good friend and customer at Motor Imports, Ltd., in Rockville. He bought my Fairthorpe Electron and ran it is several races.

Charles Wallace was my driving school instructor at Marlboro in 1956-57.

Rick Kelly
erkelly2@cox. net
Oklahoma City

#1945

From: Bob <bstorck@...>
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 9:20 pm
Subject: Re: Charles Wallace and Dick Lord

fannum

erkelly2 wrote:
> I am trying to find the dates of death of Charles Wallace and Dick Lord.
>
> The Social Security Death Index has too many names similar to the above to be
definitive.
>
> Purpose: adding them to Motorsport Memorial.
>
> Dick was a good friend and customer at Motor Imports, Ltd., in Rockville.  He
bought my Fairthorpe Electron and ran it is several races.
>
> Charles Wallace was my driving school instructor at Marlboro in 1956-57.
>
> Rick Kelly
> erkelly2@...
> Oklahoma City
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>

#1946

From: Bob <bstorck@...>
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 10:27 pm
Subject: Re: Charles Wallace and Dick Lord

fannum

It just happens that I've been talking to Debby Demaree, now selling
real estate in Bethesda. Some of you recall my driving the ex-Tweedale
Lola 1100 Sports, the passionate purple Daimler SP-250, the ex-Woody
Woodruff Lotus 11/Alfa, then the Brian Hart powered 2 liter prototype
with the LEADCO designed body on the monocoque I built on top of
Pumpelly's March 702 suspension. Or the abundance of Jags, Masers,
Daimlers, Ferraris, Cobras, and Lambos I owned and kept running. Not
bragging or babbling, but now I'm into smart cars!

Yeah, the 3 cylinder, one liter two place "smaller than a Mini" econo car.

Debby owns one also, and has painted it purple (I'm sure an homage to my
Moby Grape Daimler Dart!)

OK, why am I inflicting this on you all? Well, Debby's dad was one of
the Lavender Hill Mob! And she was a good friend of Charlie Wallace and
his kids, and is sure she can provide his date of death for the memorial!

So Phil and all, get in touch with her and start sharing memories.

Cheers, Bob

Bob wrote:
> erkelly2 wrote:
>> I am trying to find the dates of death of Charles Wallace and Dick Lord.
>

#1947

From: "slloydmarlboro" <slloydmarlboro@...>
Date: Fri Nov 27, 2009 7:19 pm
Subject: 2010 Marlboro Reunion

slloydmarlboro

Hi Folks!

No, our informal Marlboro gang hasn't disappeared.  I've just been very busy
wirth teaching at two local community colleges and I've not had a lot of time
for my "fun" stuff.



That said, I trust you had a great Thanksgiving.  Folks, I need your help. Once
again, VRG wants us to be part of their 2010 Jefferson 500 at Summit Point on
the first weekend of May in 2010. You may have even seen the ads in Vintage
Motorsport and elsewhere.  It is a "go."  We have the date, and VRG is allowing
us to be part of the vintage racing weekend.



What I'd like to know is this:  WHAT WOULD MAKE THE PERFECT MARLBORO REUNION FOR
YOU?  Some of you were with us when we had our reunion in Suburban Virginia as
the guests of the Washington DC Region, SCCA. Still more of tyou joined us in
2008 at Surreybrooke and Osteratg in Frederick, MD. for our vintage car
show/Marlboro reunion. And a whopping 200 of you attended last year's VRG
Jefferson 500 Marlboro Reunion.



Please think about what you enjoyed about these events and what you did not
particularly like. May I ask you, over the next few weeks, to e-mail me and let
me know what YOU would like from our 2010 iteration?  Bob Houston and I will be
meeting soon, along with VRG and the management of Summit Point to discuss what
we want to do for 2010.  We already have some ideas:  the primary idea is a
"story-telling" session like the 2007 Gold Cup 50th anniversary at VIR.  But
that's not cast in stone. The only difference this year is that we will have to
be 100 percent self-funding.  That means our "entrance fee" will have to cover
whatever our share of a banquet, etc. might be.. That's probably not such a big
deal, but if you want to join us and see your old Marlboro friends, we'd sure
like to now what you'd enjoy from such a weekend. May I ask you to give that
some thought and get back to me as soon as you can?  Bob and I and VRG would
like to meet before the holidays if that's possible.  That way we can start
publicizing the event at the very beginning of the New Year.



All the best to all of you!

Steve Lloyd, Historian
Washington DC Region, SCCA
7928 Edgewood Farm Road
Frederick, MD 21702-2910
301-662-7302

#1948

From: Robert Hines <racerbob4@...>
Date: Fri Nov 27, 2009 10:52 pm
Subject: Re: 2010 Marlboro Reunion

racerbob4

Hi Steve..........Bob Hines here. I missed the first two events but did go to the Summit Point tent and dinner event and ran into a lot of old friends. I thought that was a decent dinner but it all seemed to last such a short time.

BTW I just received a box of 6 CD's of old Marlboro tapes from Brad Davis. I know that he and Dave Roethel had some issue with them but Brad knew that I was interested and it took him 8 months, but they finally arrived. I dont know whats all on them as I am only half way thru the first one. That CD has some 1961 films and one of the long distance races which might be a 12 hour as it goes into the night.

Bob

From: slloydmarlboro <slloydmarlboro@...>
To: Marlboro_Raceway@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, November 27, 2009 11:19:17 AM
Subject: [Marlboro_Raceway] 2010 Marlboro Reunion

Hi Folks!

No, our informal Marlboro gang hasn't disappeared. I've just been very busy wirth teaching at two local community colleges and I've not had a lot of time for my "fun" stuff.

That said, I trust you had a great Thanksgiving. Folks, I need your help. Once again, VRG wants us to be part of their 2010 Jefferson 500 at Summit Point on the first weekend of May in 2010. You may have even seen the ads in Vintage Motorsport and elsewhere. It is a "go." We have the date, and VRG is allowing us to be part of the vintage racing weekend.

What I'd like to know is this: WHAT WOULD MAKE THE PERFECT MARLBORO REUNION FOR YOU? Some of you were with us when we had our reunion in Suburban Virginia as the guests of the Washington DC Region, SCCA. Still more of tyou joined us in 2008 at Surreybrooke and Osteratg in Frederick, MD. for our vintage car show/Marlboro reunion. And a whopping 200 of you attended last year's VRG Jefferson 500 Marlboro Reunion.

Please think about what you enjoyed about these events and what you did not particularly like. May I ask you, over the next few weeks, to e-mail me and let me know what YOU would like from our 2010 iteration? Bob Houston and I will be meeting soon, along with VRG and the management of Summit Point to discuss what we want to do for 2010. We already have some ideas: the primary idea is a "story-telling" session like the 2007 Gold Cup 50th anniversary at VIR. But that's not cast in stone. The only difference this year is that we will have to be 100 percent self-funding. That means our "entrance fee" will have to cover whatever our share of a banquet, etc. might be.. That's probably not such a big deal, but if you want to join us and see your old Marlboro friends, we'd sure like to now what you'd enjoy from such a weekend. May I ask you to give that some thought and get back to me as soon as you can? Bob and I and VRG would like to meet before the holidays if that's possible. That way we can start publicizing the event at the very beginning of the New Year.

All the best to all of you!

Steve Lloyd, Historian
Washington DC Region, SCCA
7928 Edgewood Farm Road
Frederick, MD 21702-2910
301-662-7302

#1949

From: "Don Greimel" <dgreimel@...>
Date: Sat Nov 28, 2009 12:50 am
Subject: Re: 2010 Marlboro Reunion

dgreimel@...

Hello Steve,

The greatest fun for me was the weekend at the track and the reunion dinner.

I have just bought a racing Morgan and joined VRG so I plan to be at the
Jefferson anyway.

Cheers
Don Greimel


From: "slloydmarlboro" <slloydmarlboro@...>
To: <Marlboro_Raceway@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 2:19 PM
Subject: [Marlboro_Raceway] 2010 Marlboro Reunion


> Hi Folks!
>
> No, our informal Marlboro gang hasn't disappeared.  I've just been very
> busy wirth teaching at two local community colleges and I've not had a lot
> of time for my "fun" stuff.
>
>
>
> That said, I trust you had a great Thanksgiving.  Folks, I need your help.
> Once again, VRG wants us to be part of their 2010 Jefferson 500 at Summit
> Point on the first weekend of May in 2010. You may have even seen the ads
> in Vintage Motorsport and elsewhere.  It is a "go."  We have the date, and
> VRG is allowing us to be part of the vintage racing weekend.
>
>
>
> What I'd like to know is this:  WHAT WOULD MAKE THE PERFECT MARLBORO
> REUNION FOR YOU?  Some of you were with us when we had our reunion in
> Suburban Virginia as the guests of the Washington DC Region, SCCA. Still
> more of tyou joined us in 2008 at Surreybrooke and Osteratg in Frederick,
> MD. for our vintage car show/Marlboro reunion. And a whopping 200 of you
> attended last year's VRG Jefferson 500 Marlboro Reunion.
>
>
>
> Please think about what you enjoyed about these events and what you did
> not particularly like. May I ask you, over the next few weeks, to e-mail
> me and let me know what YOU would like from our 2010 iteration?  Bob
> Houston and I will be meeting soon, along with VRG and the management of
> Summit Point to discuss what we want to do for 2010.  We already have some
> ideas:  the primary idea is a "story-telling" session like the 2007 Gold
> Cup 50th anniversary at VIR.  But that's not cast in stone. The only
> difference this year is that we will have to be 100 percent self-funding.
> That means our "entrance fee" will have to cover whatever our share of a
> banquet, etc. might be.. That's probably not such a big deal, but if you
> want to join us and see your old Marlboro friends, we'd sure like to now
> what you'd enjoy from such a weekend. May I ask you to give that some
> thought and get back to me as soon as you can?  Bob and I and VRG would
> like to meet before the holidays if that's possible.  That way we can
> start publicizing the event at the very beginning of the New Year.
>
>
>
> All the best to all of you!
>
> Steve Lloyd, Historian
> Washington DC Region, SCCA
> 7928 Edgewood Farm Road
> Frederick, MD 21702-2910
> 301-662-7302
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

#1950

From: "Rick Mandelson" <rollingthunder78@...>
Date: Sun Nov 29, 2009 2:24 am
Subject: Re: 2010 Marlboro Reunion

rick21043

Hey Don

Does it have a limited slip? (inside joke folks)

Rick
www.rickmandelson.com

----- Original Message -----

From: Don Greimel

To: Marlboro_Raceway@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 7:50 PM

Subject: Re: [Marlboro_Raceway] 2010 Marlboro Reunion

Hello Steve,

The greatest fun for me was the weekend at the track and the reunion dinner.

I have just bought a racing Morgan and joined VRG so I plan to be at the
Jefferson anyway.

Cheers
Don Greimel

From: "slloydmarlboro" <slloydmarlboro@yahoo.com>
To: <Marlboro_Raceway@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 2:19 PM
Subject: [Marlboro_Raceway] 2010 Marlboro Reunion

> Hi Folks!
>
> No, our informal Marlboro gang hasn't disappeared. I've just been very
> busy wirth teaching at two local community colleges and I've not had a lot
> of time for my "fun" stuff.
>
>
>
> That said, I trust you had a great Thanksgiving. Folks, I need your help.
> Once again, VRG wants us to be part of their 2010 Jefferson 500 at Summit
> Point on the first weekend of May in 2010. You may have even seen the ads
> in Vintage Motorsport and elsewhere. It is a "go." We have the date, and
> VRG is allowing us to be part of the vintage racing weekend.
>
>
>
> What I'd like to know is this: WHAT WOULD MAKE THE PERFECT MARLBORO
> REUNION FOR YOU? Some of you were with us when we had our reunion in
> Suburban Virginia as the guests of the Washington DC Region, SCCA. Still
> more of tyou joined us in 2008 at Surreybrooke and Osteratg in Frederick,
> MD. for our vintage car show/Marlboro reunion. And a whopping 200 of you
> attended last year's VRG Jefferson 500 Marlboro Reunion.
>
>
>
> Please think about what you enjoyed about these events and what you did
> not particularly like. May I ask you, over the next few weeks, to e-mail
> me and let me know what YOU would like from our 2010 iteration? Bob
> Houston and I will be meeting soon, along with VRG and the management of
> Summit Point to discuss what we want to do for 2010. We already have some
> ideas: the primary idea is a "story-telling" session like the 2007 Gold
> Cup 50th anniversary at VIR. But that's not cast in stone. The only
> difference this year is that we will have to be 100 percent self-funding.
> That means our "entrance fee" will have to cover whatever our share of a
> banquet, etc. might be.. That's probably not such a big deal, but if you
> want to join us and see your old Marlboro friends, we'd sure like to now
> what you'd enjoy from such a weekend. May I ask you to give that some
> thought and get back to me as soon as you can? Bob and I and VRG would
> like to meet before the holidays if that's possible. That way we can
> start publicizing the event at the very beginning of the New Year.
>
>
>
> All the best to all of you!
>
> Steve Lloyd, Historian
> Washington DC Region, SCCA
> 7928 Edgewood Farm Road
> Frederick, MD 21702-2910
> 301-662-7302
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

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